http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/30/canadian-carriers-put-galaxy-s-iii-launch-on-june-20th/
Processor:
Snapdragon S4 Dual Core 1.5 GHz
Qualcomm MSM8960 Chipset
OS (Shipping): ICS 4.0.4
Data: LTE (SGH-i747 variation) and HSPA+ 42 (SGH-iT999 variation)
Memory: 2 GB RAM
I feel happy selling my international sgs3 for 750, 50 more than i paid for now on craigslist lol
Pretty sure that's Canada only.
I could be wrong though, so don't take it to the bank.
Don't bait the trolls.
Everything I've read seems to point to the US S3 variant closely mirroring the Canadian & also launching around June 20th for some carriers.
Update: Samsung's own release has swung our way, and it's providing a slew of details that should closely relate to the US launch. As expected, that's a Snapdragon S4 inside, although we now know that the 2GB of RAM of the NTT DoCoMo version will at least be making its way to Canada as well. The LTE version for Bell, Rogers, Telus and a handful of regional carriers is known as the SGH-i747, while the fabled SGH-T999 stops at 42Mbps HSPA+ and is the edition that Mobilicity, Wind and Videotron will get, since it supports 1,700MHz 3G. There's no mention of a 64GB Canadian Galaxy S III, so you'll still have to import if you frown heavily upon microSD cards.
The Japanese version is said to have 2gb of ram and thats a CDMA version.
I dont know, I think its very possible Samsung is putting 2gb of ram in US and Canada Versions to make up for the dual core only.
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Pretty sure that's Canada only.
I could be wrong though, so don't take it to the bank.
Don't bait the trolls.
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sgh-i747 is model for AT&T, so pretty certain it will apply for at&t version at least.
i hope they keep the button layout. i loved the international sgs3 button layout.
So what's faster or better (battery life and other aspects) - Quad-core with 1GB RAM or Dual-Core with 2GB RAM?
Not sure which to order (I'm from USA).
posted this in the Canadian thread http://www.unwiredview.com/2012/05/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-for-att-sgh-i747-and-t-mobile-sgh-t999-confirmed/
SGH-I747 should be for AT$T and SGH-T999 for T-Mobile US
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is350 said:
So what's faster or better (battery life and other aspects) - Quad-core with 1GB RAM or Dual-Core with 2GB RAM?
Not sure which to order (I'm from USA).
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i can tell you now that battery life will be superior with the dual-core S4. i don't think you'll be able to tell in every day situations which one is faster. i'll take the S4 and LTE personally.
I'll most likely keep my Int. version and see how the data/processor speeds are before I consider jumping on a contract extension and get the US LTE version. I am a fan of the HOME button, which I'm fairly sure will dissapear on AT&T's version. Also not a fan of the bloatware AT&T loads up their phones with that may uneccessarily hamper battery/RAM.
Will the S4 variant have as much dev support as the international? I sure hope so.
Except for high end gaming, S4 will perform just as well as Exynos in everyday use and have longer battery life.
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I'll most likely keep my Int. version and see how the data/processor speeds are before I consider jumping on a contract extension and get the US LTE version. I am a fan of the HOME button, which I'm fairly sure will dissapear on AT&T's version.
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i'll import from canada. S4 is a champ up against the quad Exynos. both have their plus' and minus'. having longer battery life and LTE are a little more important to me than bragging rights
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ECrispy said:
Will the S4 variant have as much dev support as the international? I sure hope so.
Except for high end gaming, S4 will perform just as well as Exynos in everyday use and have longer battery life.
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depends... Canadian versions, yep. AT$T may lock theirs down like they did the HOX. Rogers kids could unlock via htcdev. AT$T users had to spoof the cid. so, depends on carriers.
MoJoePin said:
I'll most likely keep my Int. version and see how the data/processor speeds are before I consider jumping on a contract extension and get the US LTE version. I am a fan of the HOME button, which I'm fairly sure will dissapear on AT&T's version.
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well, since canada and at&t models have been similar (cept for s2) i hope they keep that button config.
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Will the S4 variant have as much dev support as the international? I sure hope so.
Except for high end gaming, S4 will perform just as well as Exynos in everyday use and have longer battery life.
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I doubt the carrier specific versions will receive the same level of dev attention as the international version. Don't get me wrong, there will boat loads of roms but it will be segmented between carriers.
There will always be porting issues between versions.
The international version is global. Also compounded with the fact it probably the most hyped/sought after Android phone so far.
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i'll import from canada. S4 is a champ up against the quad Exynos. both have their plus' and minus'. having longer battery life and LTE are a little more important to me than bragging rights
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I'm just too impatient . But I also added I'm not crazzy about the AT&T bloatware, I loathed it on my LTE Note (I know, I know, root & remove)
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depends... Canadian versions, yep. AT$T may lock theirs down like they did the HOX. Rogers kids could unlock via htcdev. AT$T users had to spoof the cid. so, depends on carriers.
It's unlikely that AT&T will lock the bootloaders on the SIII like they did on HOX. since all previous galaxy s phones did not have locked bootloaders. But this news is great, I can't wait to see comparison videos of the two variants
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The Japanese version is said to have 2gb of ram and thats a CDMA version.
I dont know, I think its very possible Samsung is putting 2gb of ram in US and Canada Versions to make up for the dual core only.
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The 2gb is not to just make up for the dual core but thw lack of dedicated video ram for the Adreno. Example, it sucks up about 400mb on the HOX.
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is350 said:
So what's faster or better (battery life and other aspects) - Quad-core with 1GB RAM or Dual-Core with 2GB RAM?
Not sure which to order (I'm from USA).
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Definitely Dual-Core with 2GB RAM. I will be waiting a bit more too.
The bottleneck of all phones today is the memory not the CPU.
Yea the current int. sgs3 has 780mb total available memory, and uses 469mb ram after factory reset. i can't wait to see how much more the better us variant will have!
SlimJ87D said:
The 2gb is not to just make up for the dual core but thw lack of dedicated video ram for the Adreno. Example, it sucks up about 400mb on the HOX.
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How did this speculation become a fact now? Stop making up stories and repeating it over and over without any evidence whatsoever. The one s with the non lte s4 has 680mb free ram compared to 600mb on the one xl . The evo 3d with it's last generation s3 snapdragon has 800mb. Does that mean they have dedicated memory. Of course not.
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The Japanese version is said to have 2gb of ram and thats a CDMA version.
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No its not, its LTE on Band I with WCDMA fallback on bands I/VI.
See http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/product/next/sc06d/index.html
shadow65781 said:
Pretty sure that's Canada only.
I could be wrong though, so don't take it to the bank.
Don't bait the trolls.
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+1. Our Canadian SGS models had 16 Gb of memory, you yanks only got 8 GB So anything is possible.
I am more interested in if I can flash a 1700 modem to change the band when I want...
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Samwung galaxy note comes with sooo many version...
There is the original version in 1.4 ghz processor
A korean version (like mine) packed with 1.5ghz processor, 4G LTE, a tv module and a bit thicker compared to the original
And I saw another one, galaxy note with no physical button... just 4 old school touch bottons
its really confusing and disappointing that samsung is like selling different kinds of phone in one name. And with that, its so hard to customize it because of major hardware differences..
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Can anyone explain why Is this happening?
I tried to search but there is no specific thread with answers. Starting a thread would be better I guess.
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The home market will always get the LTE with the TV module version. Thats what they did with the SGS II as well.
The 1.4 Ghz version with the physical home button is their international version which is sold ALL OVER aside from the U.S.
the "Old School" 4 Button one you refer to is the U.S version. Its specified that all devices they sell will have the 4 capacitive buttons to follow a schema. Also the U.S version will get a Snapdragon processor. As to the reason behind why the diff processor is unknown to me. I am sure there is some tie up or standard set behind that.
Same was the case with the SGS II variants. Aside from the ATT version of the original SGS II (not Skyrocket).
Majority of the people wont MOD their device and those who do, will come to XDA to obtain the proper MOD / ROM for their specific device.
The buttonless version it's the US at&t LTE note. Basically the same as your Korean.
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The reason Qualcomm CPU is used is because it supports 4G LTE, and the Samsung Exynos does not. Sadly the 1.5Ghz Qualcomm CPU is considerably slower than the Exynos chip. Qualcomm is Cortex A8 chip, Exynos 4210 is Cortex A9 chip, which is more effective and faster.
dhruvmalik said:
The home market will always get the LTE with the TV module version. Thats what they did with the SGS II as well.
The 1.4 Ghz version with the physical home button is their international version which is sold ALL OVER aside from the U.S.
the "Old School" 4 Button one you refer to is the U.S version. Its specified that all devices they sell will have the 4 capacitive buttons to follow a schema. Also the U.S version will get a Snapdragon processor. As to the reason behind why the diff processor is unknown to me. I am sure there is some tie up or standard set behind that.
Same was the case with the SGS II variants. Aside from the ATT version of the original SGS II (not Skyrocket).
Majority of the people wont MOD their device and those who do, will come to XDA to obtain the proper MOD / ROM for their specific device.
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Hmmmm its USA.... I guess patent copyright issues? Lol
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Its not an att note. Its north American, Canada is getting the exact same version on all 3 major carriers BEFORE att even gets it. So call it north American or i717.
And why its different from n7000? Because samsungs CPU doesn't support lte. So they have to use a different CPU till they have a working lte exynos cpu.
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Hmmmm its USA.... I guess patent copyright issues?
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Pardon me, but I have a patent on that type of sarcasm. You will pay me a 1 USD royalty on each person that reads this, and you will cease and desist making sarcastic remarks.
aniphreak said:
Samwung galaxy note comes with sooo many version...
There is the original version in 1.4 ghz processor
A korean version (like mine) packed with 1.5ghz processor, 4G LTE, a tv module and a bit thicker compared to the original
And I saw another one, galaxy note with no physical button... just 4 old school touch bottons
its really confusing and disappointing that samsung is like selling different kinds of phone in one name. And with that, its so hard to customize it because of major hardware differences..
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I read lots of Korean galaxy note forum through internet and lots of people in Korea have bought international version of galaxy note because of the hardware differences and other reason is that Korean version of note comes with LTE which is amazingly fast. I mean its super fast as I saw the demo of it but you have to pay a price for it!! since its just started recently. However, because its new and there are lots of places in korea where LTE coverage is an issue as well and that is why lot of people have bought international version of note as 3g data plan is unlimited whereas LTE is not...
Samsung made so many editions. Does 1.4g CPU 2- core and 1.5g one 1-core?
I live in Montreal where Rogers is one of the first to start lte. Definitely already using it on skyrocket. Can't wait to get my note in 2 days haay.
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Sarius24 said:
I live in Montreal where Rogers is one of the first to start lte. Definitely already using it on skyrocket. Can't wait to get my note in 2 days haay.
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I live in Montreal too, but don't have a lte device yet so I cant wait to get my hands on a note and see what this speed is all about
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Lucky you to have LTE deployed. In France we have to wait another two years for a reasonable deployment.
It will leave me enought time to play with my non-LTE Note and wait for a quad-core LTE version ;-)
how can i read My CPU on the phone?
tnx
enobrec said:
how can i read My CPU on the phone?
tnx
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you are in the wrong section ...
mustang2012 said:
you are in the wrong section ...
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..mmmhh..not at all
i wanna know some information about my processor(CPU)..1.4?...1.5?
In this 3d i read about different processor on different NoteS ..
so i am simply interested about my Note Version...looking at the processor...
how can i know what processor i have?
there is a menu option?
enobrec said:
..mmmhh..not at all
i wanna know some information about my processor(CPU)..1.4?...1.5?
In this 3d i read about different processor on different NoteS ..
how can i know what processor i have?
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LTE = 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon Dual core
Non LTE = 1.4GHz Exynos Dual core
ah..ok..tnxx...
dhruvmalik said:
... Also the U.S version will get a Snapdragon processor. As to the reason behind why the diff processor is unknown to me. I am sure there is some tie up or standard set behind that...
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Well snapdragon has the advantage of LTE and is more battery efficient.
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andrawer said:
Well snapdragon has the advantage of LTE and is more battery efficient.
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Snapdragon may be more battery efficient (don't know, never heard that one) but LTE is apparently horrible on battery life! I will find out in a few days, lol...
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ANYBODY see this story yet. I hate technology sometimes.
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Link?
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Would you really be surprised? Really?
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/6/24/3115367/south-korean-galaxy-s-iii-quad-core-lte
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Old news. Its Korea, they made the phone, what do you expect? Lol
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I was about to pull the trigger on the S3 intl version, but this one would be badass!
cashyftw said:
Old news. Its Korea, they made the phone, what do you expect? Lol
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The article also states that it's a separate chip. If I'm not mistaken the reason we don't have a separate chip is because it would draw more power. That's why they tend to stick to whatever Modem the SOC supports. If the SOC doesn't support the modem, there is more power going to driving a modem AND SOC. We won't see it here anytime soon since Carriers have been adverse to have the separate chips in the devices.
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FtrV8 said:
I was about to pull the trigger on the S3 intl version, but this one would be badass!
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Most likely won't work in the US. LTE in different countries/carriers run on different frequencies. The problem is that, is no longer would a Quad-Band phone give you true worldwide coverage on LTE. Since each country/carrier uses a slightly different frequency, the amount of frequencies that an LTE chip would have to cover is more than they currently are able to support (plus the logistics would likely be a total nightmare.) This is currently proven by Apple's use of an LTE chip in the iPad. The chip won't give LTE outside of the US. So any LTE device you import right now (or likely within the next couple years) will NOT work on US LTE networks.
battery life doesnt matter as much in Korea .. any restuarant or bar will charge you phone for you lol. i miss being able to hand my phone to any ajumma and grab a charge while i eat.
faulkton said:
battery life doesnt matter as much in Korea .. any restuarant or bar will charge you phone for you lol. i miss being able to hand my phone to any ajumma and grab a charge while i eat.
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That's a pretty cool idea for this modern high-tech society and if they don't do that, then at least provide a USB port for charging.
Correction ...
naturefreak85 said:
The chip won't give LTE outside of the US.
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The statement above is not correct. It should read "The chip won't work on LTE outside of North America." Remember, my American friends, you are NOT the centre of the universe. LTE speeds in Canada are the same as in the U.S. Case in point, Rogers in Canada has the identical network as AT&T in the U.S.
The rest of what you said is quite accurate.
Peter
....Could it be possible that an Skyrocket 2 or Just a plain new GS3 with Quad, 2GB, LTE, come to america in fall?
Who even cares? Dual Core is MORE than sufficient, especially when the ROMS start flowing.
I'll take my dual-core w/LTE & 2 GB of RAM and be quite happy!!
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Bjray said:
....Could it be possible that an Skyrocket 2 or Just a plain new GS3 with Quad, 2GB, LTE, come to america in fall?
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The Skyrocket was just to introduce LTE, so there won't be a #2. Also, I'm guessing US will get quad-core LTE in the Galaxy S4. Then again, what do I know?
wes78 said:
Who even cares? Dual Core is MORE than sufficient, especially when the ROMS start flowing.
I'll take my dual-core w/LTE & 2 GB of RAM and be quite happy!!
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The Skyrocket was just to introduce LTE, so there won't be a #2. Also, I'm guessing US will get quad-core LTE in the Galaxy S4. Then again, what do I know?
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Remember this? http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/...kyrocket-hd-coming-to-atandt-1-5ghz-dual-cor/ <- Skyrocket revision / version 2
Maybe they canceled it because of the GS3....
Bjray said:
Remember this? http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/...kyrocket-hd-coming-to-atandt-1-5ghz-dual-cor/ <- Skyrocket revision / version 2
Maybe they canceled it because of the GS3....
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Canada still got it, but they canceled the US version. I don't even know why Samsung made the thing, considering how quickly the GS3 came out.
I was actually waiting for that one, after I dropped and cracked my Infuse in early January.
Bjray said:
....Could it be possible that an Skyrocket 2 or Just a plain new GS3 with Quad, 2GB, LTE, come to america in fall?
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Yes, but renamed to iPhone 5.
Sincerely,
Steve Jobs
I think this deserves a topic.
According to T-Mo news, a user agent string leaked, possibly indicating that a T-Mobile version of the Note II is on it's way. The model number is SGH-T889, which would make it ten digits higher than the original Note, SGH-T879. The phone is also packing a 1280×720 resolution, and running Android 4.1.
Also, on the T-Mobile S III board here on XDA, another user noted that a minor update to the SGH-T889 is already available on Samsung-Updates website, which means the Note II could be close to launching soon. I'm guessing we'll hear more in the coming weeks.
Third Strike said:
I think this deserves a topic.
According to T-Mo news, a user agent string leaked, possibly indicating that a T-Mobile version of the Note II is on it's way. The model number is SGH-T889, which would make it ten digits higher than the original Note, SGH-T879. The phone is also packing a 1280×720 resolution, and running Android 4.1.
Also, on the T-Mobile S III board here on XDA, another user noted that a minor update to the SGH-T889 is already available on Samsung-Updates website, which means the Note II could be close to launching soon. I'm guessing we'll hear more in the coming weeks.
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Yes I am very excited for T-Mobile version, since the deal with AT&T was cancelled, Tmobile is definitely stepping up with their lines of smart phone The biggest news and rumor would be that Tmo version (I dont know about other carriers) will still carry Exonys quad core! unlike the galaxy s3 where they downgraded the CPU. Now thats very exciting news when any ETA for the galaxy note 2 for TMO? I heard lastest November but I hope they release them in October.
takgeun68 said:
Yes I am very excited for T-Mobile version, since the deal with AT&T was cancelled, Tmobile is definitely stepping up with their lines of smart phone The biggest news and rumor would be that Tmo version (I dont know about other carriers) will still carry Exonys quad core! unlike the galaxy s3 where they downgraded the CPU. Now thats very exciting news when any ETA for the galaxy note 2 for TMO? I heard lastest November but I hope they release them in October.
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Maybe a little research would tell me this but didn't they switch it in the gs3 so that the gs3 could handle 42 mbps network?
Or was that only for the gs2?
Wouldn't the cpu seeing as its same as the gs3 international one exynos still not be compatible with T-Mobile 42 mbps?
I apologize beforehand if CPUs are actually different.
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To answer a couple of the comments
Yes TMO is confirmed to have the Note2
TMobile will/ is supposed to be converted in ALL of the USA to 1900/2100 banding by 1/1/13 (4 Months) (LTE)
I confirmed that the TMO is a Quad core 2 gig ram w/ 16gig int sd +ext sd.......:fingers-crossed:
oka1 said:
To answer a couple of the comments
Yes TMO is confirmed to have the Note2
TMobile will/ is supposed to be converted in ALL of the USA to 1900/2100 banding by 1/1/13 (4 Months) (LTE)
I confirmed that the TMO is a Quad core 2 gig ram w/ 16gig int sd +ext sd.......:fingers-crossed:
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Do you have a possible release for the Note II, on T-Mobile? Also, assuming you have inside info, do you know if Charlotte will get LTE/1900MHz before next year?
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TMobile will/ is supposed to be converted in ALL of the USA to 1900/2100 banding by 1/1/13 (4 Months) (LTE)
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So that means I could get the International as soon as they come out, pop in my Tmo sim and in 4 months I would have LTE? Until then it would be Edge?
Any idea if it will be a mini or micro sim?
Micro
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I'll definitely be selling my s3.. I want this baby so bad..
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Can any of you smart fellas offer an educated guess on what the new line sale price will be? We (my company) will be switching to T-Mobile at the end of this week. I can buy the S3 for $125. I mentioned that I was interested in the Note 2 as well and the rep is offering to let me purchase the Note 2 at the subsidized price when it arrives. He will be getting me a "loaner" for now, if I go that route.
Just trying to weigh out the difference. I have a fairly large phone-nerd streak in me but if I am looking at an additional $250, I may have to scratch my head a bit on the decision. The S3 looks pretty sweet.
Any advice is welcome.
Thanks guys!
(Currently on the S2 on Sprint)
Is there any possiblity that the Note II could come with both HSPA+ and LTE for T-Mobile? It would be nice if it would be able to use LTE after the first of the year when TMO starts it up.
Atmazzz said:
So that means I could get the International as soon as they come out, pop in my Tmo sim and in 4 months I would have LTE? Until then it would be Edge?
Any idea if it will be a mini or micro sim?
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I know this thread has been asleep for a while, but with all the crazyness happening with HSPA+, LTE, etc. for Tmo, If it is possible to get the INT version of the n7100 and get LTE in 4-14 months, that makes an investment in the Note 2 a very wise choice....something I like to do.
But something does bother me. Although I haven't confirmed this, but I read somewhere that tmo HSPA+ is not available for the Note 2. Which seems kinda weird.
Can anyone clarify this?
vebulous said:
I know this thread has been asleep for a while, but with all the crazyness happening with HSPA+, LTE, etc. for Tmo, If it is possible to get the INT version of the n7100 and get LTE in 4-14 months, that makes an investment in the Note 2 a very wise choice....something I like to do.
But something does bother me. Although I haven't confirmed this, but I read somewhere that tmo HSPA+ is not available for the Note 2. Which seems kinda weird.
Can anyone clarify this?
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The N7100 is the international version and if you buy that for Tmobile, you won't get HSPA+ or LTE as it only has HSPA+ (for AT&T, but if T-Mobile is refarming the 1900MHz band in your area, you'll actually get HSPA+) and no LTE bands.
The T-Mobile version, coming out later this month, will support both the current HSPA+ (On T-Mobile on the 1700mhz AWS spectrum) and the LTE bands that T-Mobile plans to use for their LTE rollout.
In short, wait for the T-Mobile one, and get it.
I believe that the AT&T and T-Mobile Note II will be essentially identical. I believe that since Samsung is using the Exynos in the US versions that they're using the same Qualcomm modem in both, so on AT&T it can take advantage of LTE and on T-Mo it will allow the HSPA 42+, and then it will be able to use LTE once it starts rolling out.
takgeun68 said:
Yes I am very excited for T-Mobile version, since the deal with AT&T was cancelled, Tmobile is definitely stepping up with their lines of smart phone The biggest news and rumor would be that Tmo version (I dont know about other carriers) will still carry Exonys quad core! unlike the galaxy s3 where they downgraded the CPU. Now thats very exciting news when any ETA for the galaxy note 2 for TMO? I heard lastest November but I hope they release them in October.
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They didn't downgrade the CPU in the US Version of the GS3. The international version does have the Exonys Quad core but its the last(older) generation of that chip. The US version came with a duel core S4 chip with 2 gigs ram... which if you actually ran tests, it runs crazy fast and even faster than then Quad core Exonys. This Galaxy Note 2 has the same Exonys Quad core(older version) as the int GS3 and also 2 gigs of ram which make it crazy quick.
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They didn't downgrade the CPU in the US Version of the GS3. The international version does have the Exonys Quad core but its the last(older) generation of that chip. The US version came with a duel core S4 chip with 2 gigs ram... which if you actually ran tests, it runs crazy fast and even faster than then Quad core Exonys. This Galaxy Note 2 has the same Exonys Quad core(older version) as the int GS3 and also 2 gigs of ram which make it crazy quick.
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What actually makes it quick is the architecture of the S4 chip itself which uses 28 nm transistors for less heat and power consumption as well as the fact that it's based off both the A9 and A15 ARM reference chips whereas the Exynos is A9 based only, so you also get the benefits of the better architecture. However, the Exynos 5 (A15 based) look to wipe the floor with anything on the market currently.
duowing said:
I believe that the AT&T and T-Mobile Note II will be essentially identical. I believe that since Samsung is using the Exynos in the US versions that they're using the same Qualcomm modem in both, so on AT&T it can take advantage of LTE and on T-Mo it will allow the HSPA 42+, and then it will be able to use LTE once it starts rolling out.
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Well, the modems/radios are pretty much band-agnostic, meaning you could probably re-program it to work with any GSM carrier around the world (as long as the chip supports it). That's why the ATT OG Galaxy Note could be reprogrammed to be used on T-Mobile
I understand that they crippled the s3 because of issues with lte compatibility. (even though the korean version has quad exynos and lte)
However, I was under the impression samsung had worked this all out with exynos in the note 2. Also didn't either three or ee or whatever it was in the uk say they would have lte on the galaxy s iv, but only the us variant gets snapdragon? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Samsung is alienating a rather large market.
Now don't get me wrong, i am under no circumstance saying the snapdragon 600 is a bad processor, i think its really great. The gpu is really good too. However, When i think samsung, I think of exynos as its staple, built in-house samsung optimized processor. Also, i think we can all safely assume that the octa will be more powerful do to it being a real a15 quadcore (with the a7 power savers) and not just having a15 like characteristics. Furthermore the sgx 544 has been shown to be a more powerful gpu than the 320 other than not have open gl es 3.0. So i'm confused here. Is there something I'm missing? Am i the only one thinking this?
ps. Anyone hear anything about the exynos 5 quad? Why not use that?
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did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875
I'm not sure about the LTE specs, if the exynos 5 octa supports it or not but what i know is this: The snapdragon 600 will be PLENTY. It is a very very powerful processor. The only reason i'm going for the exynos 5 octa version is because it is the international version and it is the one that would get all the dev support, more roms and faster updates. But as far as performance goes? They will be identical. Nobody is crippled here
Most likely supply issues those 8 cores don't make themselves then again the lte issue could have sprung up again because this isn't a traditional processor
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did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875
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Yeah, I read what you wrote. I would assume it is in fact a limitation of LTE. Maybe they don't have a version of their current gen chip that is compatible with LTE bands used in the US.
You think Samsung wants to buy SoC from another vender?
I am a noob and a lil confused on this so bare with me please. I am dying to get this phone I live in NYC and have verizon. I take from this that the international version will not work on 4g LTE? AM I better off getting the snap dragon version(US)?
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I am a noob and a lil confused on this so bare with me please. I am dying to get this phone I live in NYC and have verizon. I take from this that the international version will not work on 4g LTE? AM I better off getting the snap dragon version(US)?
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The international one won't even work on verizon (it takes a sim card and is gsm. Verizon is a cdma network that just uses your esn)
samdsox said:
The international one won't even work on verizon (it takes a sim card and is gsm. Verizon is a cdma network that just uses your esn)
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Will it be able be used on anyother us network ex:att , tmobile.
Are you sure it will get dev support? I thought cyanogenmod quit developing for the international s 3 because Samsung wouldn't release some code for the exynos on the s 3 international version.
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Will it be able be used on anyother us network ex:att , tmobile.
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Any gsm network...att, tmobile..etc
Any cdma carrier will not work with international phones...Verizon, sprint...etc
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When i got my Droid 4G from Verizon, i got a card in it. Was this a SIM card? I thought that is what she said it was. From what i just read here, i shouldn't need the card for Verizon.
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did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875
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It says in that article that the international one has LTE Band 5.
Look at the list of band frequencies : http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
This is the European band (around 800-850mhz).
If you look here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It shows that alot of europe uses LTE 800, and alot of japan uses LTE 850. This is even further confirmed by the fact that Italy is confirmed to get the OCTA version, and 2/3 of their major networks use 800mhz LTE.
However, I have reason to doubt this article. It says the T-mobile version uses Band 15. Band 15 is 1900MHz. T-mobile LTE uses AWS (1700/2100, AWS band). It makes way more sense to assume that the Snapdragon version contains AWS LTE band 4 (this would cover all of Canada and most of the US)
Hope this helps clear a few things up.
TLDR ; Exynos HAS LTE, but only the European band
Warrimonk said:
It says in that article that the international one has LTE Band 5.
Look at the list of band frequencies : http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
This is the European band (around 800-850mhz).
If you look here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It shows that alot of europe uses LTE 800, and alot of japan uses LTE 850. This is even further confirmed by the fact that Italy is confirmed to get the OCTA version, and 2/3 of their major networks use 800mhz LTE.
However, I have reason to doubt this article. It says the T-mobile version uses Band 15. Band 15 is 1900MHz. T-mobile LTE uses AWS (1700/2100, AWS band). It makes way more sense to assume that the Snapdragon version contains AWS LTE band 4 (this would cover all of Canada and most of the US)
Hope this helps clear a few things up.
TLDR ; Exynos HAS LTE, but only the European band
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thanks that makes alot more sense. It's just too bad samsung didn't use a seperate modem or plan for that in advance.
Just remember that the snapdragon will be a plus for development. As many developers have sworn off the exynos chip
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zelendel said:
Just remember that the snapdragon will be a plus for development. As many developers have sworn off the exynos chip
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Yeah, that's the one thing the us version has going for it. Not sure but i thought i saw a post from one of those developers that they would not develop for either though...hoping it was just that one.
Snapdragon 600:
Four Krait 300 cores
Adreno 320 graphics
Exynos 5 Octa:
Cortex-A15
Cortex-A7 CPUs w/
PowerVR SGX544MP3 graphics
Any T-Mobile folks thinking about ordering the International instead of the TM release?
Hmmm....decisions decisions....
conrat2000 said:
When i got my Droid 4G from Verizon, i got a card in it. Was this a SIM card? I thought that is what she said it was. From what i just read here, i shouldn't need the card for Verizon.
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That card is to access verizons LTE networks ....its not a sim like att/tmobile
Will people quit posting worthless threads about the processor already!? The snapdragon is going to be better in reality because it clocks faster and wastes much less battery combined with lte. Plus, developers hate exynos and won't develope for it.
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barondebxl said:
I'm not sure about the LTE specs, if the exynos 5 octa supports it or not but what i know is this: The snapdragon 600 will be PLENTY. It is a very very powerful processor. The only reason i'm going for the exynos 5 octa version is because it is the international version and it is the one that would get all the dev support, more roms and faster updates. But as far as performance goes? They will be identical. Nobody is crippled here
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I would assume the us version would get more support from developers such as CM since samsung won't release the codes of the exynos based processors, hence not being able to run it up to its full potential. So with the S600 that shouldn't be the case. No?
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I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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I heard the Exynos had more LTE bands that's why it's for the international models. Did you mean something else, correct me if I am wrong.
I ordered the exynos will get it tomorrow from Amazon. Going to use it on att. My 5x will be my flashing phone and for the n preview
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I heard the Exynos had more LTE bands that's why it's for the international models. Did you mean something else, correct me if I am wrong.
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Exynos doesn't support CDMA.
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Exynos doesn't support CDMA.
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Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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The Edge 935F exynos forum is active. I guess the larger , more expensive model has more folllowers on XDA. I wished the forums were merged like in reddit. With very few exceptions, a discussion about the S7 Edge applies to the regular S7.
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I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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Not everyone can drop $600 on a phone. Most of the Exynos ones purchased online do not come with a factory warranty. The SD model normally benchmarks higher in single core power and graphics. The Exynos higher in multi core processing. Each person has a preference. Since the Exynos model isn't a US model your average phone person doesn't even know what it is.
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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The Exynos supports more LTE bands, but the Snapdragon supports CDMA. Hence why it's used in markets that require CDMA .
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Andrw0830 said:
Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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None of the Canadian carriers use CDMA. We're all GSM/LTE now. Have been since Telus/Bell cooperated for the 2010 Olympics.
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