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[Q] Is the octa-core LTE or 3G?

Seems to be a lot of confusion whether the octa-core version will have LTE so if anyone could advise that would be much appreciated and for reference the qualcomm S600 definitely has LTE.

i have read that octa dont have lte in usa because qualcomm has patents on lte chips in there..

kikisp said:
i have read that octa dont have lte in usa because qualcomm has patents on lte chips in there..
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If that were the case they should still be able to licence under FRAND, since it's a standards essential patent, right? If not, that's quite a monopoly on the US LTE market. Plus, what would that mean for Tegra4 devices? At any rate, I'm so sick of hearing about patents in the consumer electronics (specifially smartphones) sector. It's out of hand and needs dealth with properly.

Might of found the answer.
http://www.androidauthority.com/international-samsung-galaxy-s4-fcc-lte-172224/

daleski75 said:
Might of found the answer.
http://www.androidauthority.com/international-samsung-galaxy-s4-fcc-lte-172224/
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BUT, I don't think that band 5 is used by anyone here in the US. Band 5 is used by Philipines/S.Korea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

Just to clarify, International S4's will have LTE.
US ones have quad core snapdragons probably just for supply issues, like last year (the Note 2 is exynos, quadcore (same processor as the S3) and had LTE).

Skander1998 said:
Just to clarify, International S4's will have LTE.
US ones have quad core snapdragons probably just for supply issues, like last year (the Note 2 is exynos, quadcore (same processor as the S3) and had LTE).
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I heard rumours that the octa-core international one bound for the UK would be 3G only and only the quad core S600 would have LTE enabled which seemed very odd to me.

daleski75 said:
I heard rumours that the octa-core international one bound for the UK would be 3G only and only the quad core S600 would have LTE enabled which seemed very odd to me.
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I am pretty sure they will all be LTE enabled, we will wait and see.

i cant imagine them releasing a phone thats not LTE in the states.....that would be the worst move in the history of phones....

Germany will get the 600 too. Apparently all the markets that have 4G LTE won't get the octa.

In Indonesia get octa and 600 and the news says that both of them get LTE :screwy::screwy:
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Skander1998 said:
Just to clarify, International S4's will have LTE.
US ones have quad core snapdragons probably just for supply issues, like last year (the Note 2 is exynos, quadcore (same processor as the S3) and had LTE).
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Just because it HAS LTE, doesn't mean it's the RIGHT LTE bands. Keep that in mind. Also, Note 2 does not have a 5 series processor.... It's an A9, not A15....

CreepyDroid said:
Germany will get the 600 too. Apparently all the markets that have 4G LTE won't get the octa.
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Do you have any link or proof for that?

daleski75 said:
Do you have any link or proof for that?
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I got the info from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39172596&postcount=2765

Quote from another forum:
But there was some confusion about wich version we would get here in Scandinavia so NordicHardware got in touch with Samsung and the answer was that all LTE versions will use Snapdragon S600 and the 3G versions will use Exynos 5410. But they wont be releasing the 3G version here since everyone has moved onto LTE, im assuming the situation will be similar in other parts of Europe aswell
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Looks bad for the Exynos.

AndreiLux said:
Quote from another forum:
Looks bad for the Exynos.
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So, who will be getting exynos? What's the point 3g version have only exynos?

I want Exynos. Here we got LTE for 4 towns buts its not covered all. Beside that they are charging to enable LTE 5-10€ and giving you 1GB LTE speed, after that 64kb rofl
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JBL74 said:
So, who will be getting exynos? What's the point 3g version have only exynos?
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Exynos Octa (GT- I9500 3G support) international
Snapdragon 600 (GT - I9505 4G support)

vwbest16 said:
Exynos Octa (GT- I9500 3G support) international
Snapdragon 600 (GT - I9505 4G support)
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I thought all models would have 4G now ._.

Why are they crippling the us galaxy s iv?

I understand that they crippled the s3 because of issues with lte compatibility. (even though the korean version has quad exynos and lte)
However, I was under the impression samsung had worked this all out with exynos in the note 2. Also didn't either three or ee or whatever it was in the uk say they would have lte on the galaxy s iv, but only the us variant gets snapdragon? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Samsung is alienating a rather large market.
Now don't get me wrong, i am under no circumstance saying the snapdragon 600 is a bad processor, i think its really great. The gpu is really good too. However, When i think samsung, I think of exynos as its staple, built in-house samsung optimized processor. Also, i think we can all safely assume that the octa will be more powerful do to it being a real a15 quadcore (with the a7 power savers) and not just having a15 like characteristics. Furthermore the sgx 544 has been shown to be a more powerful gpu than the 320 other than not have open gl es 3.0. So i'm confused here. Is there something I'm missing? Am i the only one thinking this?
ps. Anyone hear anything about the exynos 5 quad? Why not use that?

......LTE......

americasteam said:
......LTE......
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did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875

I'm not sure about the LTE specs, if the exynos 5 octa supports it or not but what i know is this: The snapdragon 600 will be PLENTY. It is a very very powerful processor. The only reason i'm going for the exynos 5 octa version is because it is the international version and it is the one that would get all the dev support, more roms and faster updates. But as far as performance goes? They will be identical. Nobody is crippled here

Most likely supply issues those 8 cores don't make themselves then again the lte issue could have sprung up again because this isn't a traditional processor
S4 INFO

samdsox said:
did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875
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Yeah, I read what you wrote. I would assume it is in fact a limitation of LTE. Maybe they don't have a version of their current gen chip that is compatible with LTE bands used in the US.
You think Samsung wants to buy SoC from another vender?

I am a noob and a lil confused on this so bare with me please. I am dying to get this phone I live in NYC and have verizon. I take from this that the international version will not work on 4g LTE? AM I better off getting the snap dragon version(US)?

xan3x said:
I am a noob and a lil confused on this so bare with me please. I am dying to get this phone I live in NYC and have verizon. I take from this that the international version will not work on 4g LTE? AM I better off getting the snap dragon version(US)?
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The international one won't even work on verizon (it takes a sim card and is gsm. Verizon is a cdma network that just uses your esn)

samdsox said:
The international one won't even work on verizon (it takes a sim card and is gsm. Verizon is a cdma network that just uses your esn)
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Will it be able be used on anyother us network ex:att , tmobile.

Are you sure it will get dev support? I thought cyanogenmod quit developing for the international s 3 because Samsung wouldn't release some code for the exynos on the s 3 international version.
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xan3x said:
Will it be able be used on anyother us network ex:att , tmobile.
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Any gsm network...att, tmobile..etc
Any cdma carrier will not work with international phones...Verizon, sprint...etc
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When i got my Droid 4G from Verizon, i got a card in it. Was this a SIM card? I thought that is what she said it was. From what i just read here, i shouldn't need the card for Verizon.

samdsox said:
did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875
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It says in that article that the international one has LTE Band 5.
Look at the list of band frequencies : http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
This is the European band (around 800-850mhz).
If you look here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It shows that alot of europe uses LTE 800, and alot of japan uses LTE 850. This is even further confirmed by the fact that Italy is confirmed to get the OCTA version, and 2/3 of their major networks use 800mhz LTE.
However, I have reason to doubt this article. It says the T-mobile version uses Band 15. Band 15 is 1900MHz. T-mobile LTE uses AWS (1700/2100, AWS band). It makes way more sense to assume that the Snapdragon version contains AWS LTE band 4 (this would cover all of Canada and most of the US)
Hope this helps clear a few things up.
TLDR ; Exynos HAS LTE, but only the European band

Warrimonk said:
It says in that article that the international one has LTE Band 5.
Look at the list of band frequencies : http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
This is the European band (around 800-850mhz).
If you look here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It shows that alot of europe uses LTE 800, and alot of japan uses LTE 850. This is even further confirmed by the fact that Italy is confirmed to get the OCTA version, and 2/3 of their major networks use 800mhz LTE.
However, I have reason to doubt this article. It says the T-mobile version uses Band 15. Band 15 is 1900MHz. T-mobile LTE uses AWS (1700/2100, AWS band). It makes way more sense to assume that the Snapdragon version contains AWS LTE band 4 (this would cover all of Canada and most of the US)
Hope this helps clear a few things up.
TLDR ; Exynos HAS LTE, but only the European band
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thanks that makes alot more sense. It's just too bad samsung didn't use a seperate modem or plan for that in advance.

Just remember that the snapdragon will be a plus for development. As many developers have sworn off the exynos chip
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zelendel said:
Just remember that the snapdragon will be a plus for development. As many developers have sworn off the exynos chip
Wayne Tech S-III
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Yeah, that's the one thing the us version has going for it. Not sure but i thought i saw a post from one of those developers that they would not develop for either though...hoping it was just that one.

Snapdragon 600:
Four Krait 300 cores
Adreno 320 graphics
Exynos 5 Octa:
Cortex-A15
Cortex-A7 CPUs w/
PowerVR SGX544MP3 graphics
Any T-Mobile folks thinking about ordering the International instead of the TM release?
Hmmm....decisions decisions....

conrat2000 said:
When i got my Droid 4G from Verizon, i got a card in it. Was this a SIM card? I thought that is what she said it was. From what i just read here, i shouldn't need the card for Verizon.
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That card is to access verizons LTE networks ....its not a sim like att/tmobile

Will people quit posting worthless threads about the processor already!? The snapdragon is going to be better in reality because it clocks faster and wastes much less battery combined with lte. Plus, developers hate exynos and won't develope for it.
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barondebxl said:
I'm not sure about the LTE specs, if the exynos 5 octa supports it or not but what i know is this: The snapdragon 600 will be PLENTY. It is a very very powerful processor. The only reason i'm going for the exynos 5 octa version is because it is the international version and it is the one that would get all the dev support, more roms and faster updates. But as far as performance goes? They will be identical. Nobody is crippled here
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I would assume the us version would get more support from developers such as CM since samsung won't release the codes of the exynos based processors, hence not being able to run it up to its full potential. So with the S600 that shouldn't be the case. No?
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[Q] The korean SGS IV (SHV-E300) possible to import?

Hello XDA!
Does anyone know if it would be possible to import the SGS IV edition with exynos octa core and 4G (LTE) (SHV-E300) to Europe?
I can't find any thread with that suggestion - Is it because it's just not possible (some import/export restrictions), technical difficulties (carriers not supporting etc.) or just too expensive?
My case is: I own the SGS II and my carrier has planned to open for the LTE in late Q3. So at one side, I want to have the i9505, but when I read the benchmarks I really want to buy i9500. Then I saw a thread in here some place and an article at gsmarena saying that the korean version would be, kind of a fusion of i9500 and i9505
So is it possible or should I just forget about it?

patrickpetersen said:
Hello XDA!
Does anyone know if it would be possible to import the SGS IV edition with exynos octa core and 4G (LTE) (SHV-E300) to Europe?
I can't find any thread with that suggestion - Is it because it's just not possible (some import/export restrictions), technical difficulties (carriers not supporting etc.) or just too expensive?
My case is: I own the SGS II and my carrier has planned to open for the LTE in late Q3. So at one side, I want to have the i9505, but when I read the benchmarks I really want to buy i9500. Then I saw a thread in here some place and an article at gsmarena saying that the korean version would be, kind of a fusion of i9500 and i9505
So is it possible or should I just forget about it?
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Just be careful in doing so. To my knowledge, a lot of firmware built into those S4's are to support Korean specific carrier features which can interfere with your carrier's features. For example, I know texting is usually heavily effected. Given the limited release of it, just be ready to run into difficulty and have patience if you're going to do so before it's fully compatible with what your carrier has to offer for just a few higher benchmarks.

attbrandon said:
Just be careful in doing so. To my knowledge, a lot of firmware built into those S4's are to support Korean specific carrier features which can interfere with your carrier's features. For example, I know texting is usually heavily effected. Given the limited release of it, just be ready to run into difficulty and have patience if you're going to do so before it's fully compatible with what your carrier has to offer for just a few higher benchmarks.
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Thanks for the quick and very useful answer!
Okay. damn.. I just really wanted that octa core.. In Denmark, where I live, we get the Snapdragon and only the 16 gb version, and I would love to have the 4G oppertunity as well..

patrickpetersen said:
Hello XDA!
Does anyone know if it would be possible to import the SGS IV edition with exynos octa core and 4G (LTE) (SHV-E300) to Europe?
I can't find any thread with that suggestion - Is it because it's just not possible (some import/export restrictions), technical difficulties (carriers not supporting etc.) or just too expensive?
My case is: I own the SGS II and my carrier has planned to open for the LTE in late Q3. So at one side, I want to have the i9505, but when I read the benchmarks I really want to buy i9500. Then I saw a thread in here some place and an article at gsmarena saying that the korean version would be, kind of a fusion of i9500 and i9505
So is it possible or should I just forget about it?
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I live in South Korea, the official release will be 25th of April which are couple days counting from I posted this.
I am also still waiting for the detail review and official specification, even here in S. Korea, some web just mention internal memory 16 G, 1.9 octa core, some mention 1.8 octa core.. well wait and see.
I sent some cellphone frequently to South East Asia countries, so far ok but need to deal with custom stuff. Not sure about europe.
Yes, absolutely right if S.Korea smartphone made very custom to S. Korea market, like limitation of SMS to 80 character, they have DMB TV that only works in S. Korea etc. You have to deal with it if you use it in your country.
cheers

If you really want 4G, not sure if really worths buying the Octa. There is an Antutu test where S600 gets 28k, just as Octa and S600 have better GPU.
For me, 4g is just stupid, I want Octa but waiting some reviews, more precisely some opinions related to the battery life and some updated GPU benchmarks
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just wondering if anyone got the SHV-E300 yet?
Any good?
I live in Hong Kong and have a guy importing it from Korea to me. I have a choice of all 3 phones though so really hard to decide which one to get.
Regards,
Alex
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If you really want 4G, not sure if really worths buying the Octa. There is an Antutu test where S600 gets 28k, just as Octa and S600 have better GPU.
For me, 4g is just stupid, I want Octa but waiting some reviews, more precisely some opinions related to the battery life and some updated GPU benchmarks
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demlasjr said:
If you really want 4G, not sure if really worths buying the Octa. There is an Antutu test where S600 gets 28k, just as Octa and S600 have better GPU.
For me, 4g is just stupid, I want Octa but waiting some reviews, more precisely some opinions related to the battery life and some updated GPU benchmarks
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The China variant is running octa with dual sim and that could be a better choice.
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alextn99 said:
just wondering if anyone got the SHV-E300 yet?
Any good?
I live in Hong Kong and have a guy importing it from Korea to me. I have a choice of all 3 phones though so really hard to decide which one to get.
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Alex
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Usually get the K version for Asia countries. As mentioned you have a second choice of the China variant as well.
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It's a good choice, but it's same as the international one. I don't want a limited edition, because I know that I will have few-to-zero support for it.

Exactly the same. I live in France and we only have that ****ing snapdragon with its old fashionned adreno 320. I wish I could buy the octa version, but with 4g (carriers are upgrading to 4g 800MHz 1800MHz and 2600MHz I think) **** I'm fed up, always compromise with samsung. I wanted to import the shv-e300 but it is too specific to korea. It's gonna be hard to find international upgrade. Maybe the rugged version "active" will fully satisfy me I'm ready to pay for it. But not ready to pay for an ordinary s600 :angel:

Leechoonhwee said:
The China variant is running octa with dual sim and that could be a better choice.
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Usually get the K version for Asia countries. As mentioned you have a second choice of the China variant as well.
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sorry for off topic but, how is that pantech vega you have? i was going to get one....but ended up with an xperia z lol

spazzy1912 said:
sorry for off topic but, how is that pantech vega you have? i was going to get one....but ended up with an xperia z lol
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The screen is fabulous, definitely one of the best I've seen especially watching videos. There's some very bug in the stock ROM but overall a very polish product. There's still 80chars sms limit but I hope I can find some time and port CM to it
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Apparently, a GS4 with a Snapdragon 800 chipset has showed up on Antutu benchmarks, clock speeds are apparently going to be 2.3 ghz with the Adreno 330 GPU. So, if it was me, I would wait for that one. Also it's called the Galaxy S4 LTE Advanced or something.

SHW-M110S Owner said:
Apparently, a GS4 with a Snapdragon 800 chipset has showed up on Antutu benchmarks, clock speeds are apparently going to be 2.3 ghz with the Adreno 330 GPU. So, if it was me, I would wait for that one. Also it's called the Galaxy S4 LTE Advanced or something.
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Yeah but that doesn't work in any other country except Korea.
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An excellent phone
Leechoonhwee said:
The screen is fabulous, definitely one of the best I've seen especially watching videos. There's some very bug in the stock ROM but overall a very polish product. There's still 80chars sms limit but I hope I can find some time and port CM to it
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I just upgraded to the SVH-300K and rooted it. It is an excellent phone. The SMS limit doesn't bother me simply because everyone I know uses kakao talk or viber. I only know 2 people that don't have smart phones here. I have found no flaws with it that can't be fixed after rooting, i.e. removing bloatwear. The phone is extremely fast and I love the dual application usage feature were you can actively use 2 apps at one time. To the best of my recollection I hadn't heard anyone mention this on reviews for the I9500 and I9505. Is this application not on them or are people just not using it much?

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Apparently, a GS4 with a Snapdragon 800 chipset has showed up on Antutu benchmarks, clock speeds are apparently going to be 2.3 ghz with the Adreno 330 GPU. So, if it was me, I would wait for that one. Also it's called the Galaxy S4 LTE Advanced or something.
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Yep. It's this one:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SHV-E330SZB1SC-spec

(help please)
help please
my s4 shv-330s asking 4 digit password
usim personalizasation
please help me
how to remove that usim personlization :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

i dont get it... i previously flashed this custom rom tororo http://www.7hdmovie.com/2015/02/galaxy-s4.html and then when the lollipop came up out then flash it directly i got boot loop...
and suddenly.....
it boots to welcome to google account sign in,another problem is,its shutting down by itself and open..again and again..sigh
EDIT : my phone is SHV-E300L

May i have a fixed rom for 300L.... jelly bean or kit kat..... nt lolipop... thanxx

How to get hold of the S4 Octa?

This week I'm upgrading and will go for the S4. I live in the UK and will go onto Vodafone, however I will be open to switch carriers. I understand there are 3 variants of the S4 the Korean, International and UK/US. And the latter being the Gt-i9505, with the Snapdragon 600 and Adreno 320, while the International is the Gt-i9500, which has the Octa chip and PowerVR SGX 544MP3, yeah I know people will tell me there is virtually no difference, however I'm interested in buying the i9500 as I'd like to see what such a chipset can do, and more so to the point, I dont want to spend so much money and not even be the best (me being me). So my question is, where can I buy on contract an S4 i9500, the 3g version? As after searching all the carriers websites I cannot find one anywhere, and the area I live anyway will never see 4g, so whats the point? If its impossible to get one through a carrier, is there anyway to find one without a £550 upfront cost? As buying the 505 would be pointless, as I wont buy the 4g deal, so I'll have a 4g capable phone which I cant use, in an area it wont appear, with a worse processor and GPU. If it is totally impossible I'll accept that however I like choices and as a buyer spending this much I would like a choice..
Thanks in advance for any answers!

I'm intersted in this too . .specially now that the AT&T S4 has the bootloader locked.
Does international (Octa) have LTE?

keplenk said:
I'm intersted in this too . .specially now that the AT&T S4 has the bootloader locked.
Does international (Octa) have LTE?
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No the international (Octa) (aka i9500) does not support LTE
You can find the international octa @ Expansys & Negri

If u in L.a u can buy from this guy http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/mob/3768900703.html
jeffs99 said:
No the international (Octa) (aka i9500) does not support LTE
You can find the international octa @ Expansys & Negri
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jeffs99 said:
No the international (Octa) (aka i9500) does not support LTE
You can find the international octa @ Expansys & Negri
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I dont even need LTE, so theres no point in getting the S4 with LTE which is worse .. will it be released in time? Or will i need to pay full price?

JesseBeckett said:
I dont even need LTE, so theres no point in getting the S4 with LTE which is worse .. will it be released in time? Or will i need to pay full price?
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No one can say for sure, but you'll likely need to get the 9500 from an online retailer or another carrier. Samsung has yet to put the LTE radio in its Exynos SoC (system on a chip - what powers the 9500) so that's not going to happen mid-release for the Galaxy S4. And its highly unlikely they are going to release an LTE-enabled one and non-LTE one onto the same carrier in the same market. That just creates buyer confusion.

Only thing is for you "best of the best" types, the octa will run on the arm 7 chip most of the time. So in reality the snapdragon version is better, unless of course you just get off on running benchmarks all day. The arm 15 is the best but what's the point if it never gets used? Just my opinion, I have no right to tell anyone what they need. I WANT LTE, but all I really need is a big screen, email and a decent talker.
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hansonator said:
Only thing is for you "best of the best" types, the octa will run on the arm 7 chip most of the time. So in reality the snapdragon version is better, unless of course you just get off on running benchmarks all day. The arm 15 is the best but what's the point if it never gets used? Just my opinion, I have no right to tell anyone what they need. I WANT LTE, but all I really need is a big screen, email and a decent talker.
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I see what you mean, and I've been checking performance numbers of both the sxg 544mp3 and Adreno 320, and it's pretty similar.. so I feel pretty happy to get the 9505. It seemed great in the shop, far smoother than my S3, thanks for everyones help:good:

[Q] [i9500] Samsung phasing out Exynos 5?

Why is Samsung phasing out their Exynos 5 chip and implementing snapdragons in their upcoming phones? Its a shame that they are using their competition in their own devices rather than try to improve their own and then market it.
I love my i9500 but the lack or dev support is really depressing.
I honestly don't want to see the downfall of the Exynos 5.

starscream0 said:
Why is Samsung phasing out their Exynos 5 chip and implementing snapdragons in their upcoming phones? Its a shame that they are using their competition in their own devices rather than try to improve their own and then market it.
I love my i9500 but the lack or dev support is really depressing.
I honestly don't want to see the downfall of the Exynos 5.
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I agree that its disappointing that the Exynos 5 chip hasn't been as good as they projected, and publicised.
But I do think that its a good move to use the snapdragon 800 in their i95005G device (google edition)
Samsung are giving customers the best they can for the S4. Using the Exynos 5 would be a mistake, as its reign as the best chip will be short lived. (slightly better than the snapdragon 600)
The 800 will be a lot better, and for a flagship device they need the best. Not to mention LTE for many countries is a tech selling point.

I think you guys are being premature. Exynos vs. Qualcomm is more about baseband than it is anything else. Last year before LTE grew in deployment the ratio was 2/3 Exynos 1/3 Snapdragon. This year it's reversed. And the only device that's "rumored" to use S-800 is the LTE Advanced SGS4 that's only being sold in Korea.
Qualcomm announced a new LTE baseband called RF360 in February that's supposed to be available in the fall. It allows a single baseband to be used across all 40 different LTE bands. Once it's deployed Samsung could use Exynos wherever they chose. If RF360's available in time for the N3's release I'd fully expect it to be Exynos.
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...olution-enables-single-global-lte-design-next
Samsung Semiconductor is a very healthy business line within Samsung Corporation and generated $7.4 USD in sales in Q1 of this year.
Profit at Samsung’s semiconductor division in the first quarter was put at 1.07 trillion won, compared with 700 billion won last year, on sales of 8.58 trillion won.​http://x.dawn.com/2013/04/26/samsung-posts-record-q1-profit-of-6-4-billion/

http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...olution-enables-single-global-lte-design-next
The above link provides more info on the Qualcom RF360 Front End Solution
They aren't introducing a new baseband... just making a complete solution that works with all the various global network setups.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I think you guys are being premature. Exynos vs. Qualcomm is more about baseband than it is anything else. Last year before LTE grew in deployment the ratio was 2/3 Exynos 1/3 Snapdragon. This year it's reversed. And the only device that's "rumored" to use S-800 is the LTE Advanced SGS4 that's only being sold in Korea.
Qualcomm announced a new LTE baseband called RF360 in February that's supposed to be available in the fall. It allows a single baseband to be used across all 40 different LTE bands. Once it's deployed Samsung could use Exynos wherever they chose. If RF360's available in time for the N3's release I'd fully expect it to be Exynos.
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Thanks for the link, thats really good news.
Hopefully they do use the Exynos 5 and continue to give it 100% support in the future.
What i was mostly scared about was that the i9500 users like myself are left in the dark due to not enough dev support, and it seems like all the devs are slowly backing away from the i9500.

starscream0 said:
Thanks for the link, thats really good news.
Hopefully they do use the Exynos 5 and continue to give it 100% support in the future.
What i was mostly scared about was that the i9500 users like myself are left in the dark due to not enough dev support, and it seems like all the devs are slowly backing away from the i9500.
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Its not about developers supporting Samsung's SOC, its about samsung supporting the developers at XDA... they almost never release what they say they are going to.

hamdogg said:
Its not about developers supporting Samsung's SOC, its about samsung supporting the developers at XDA... they almost never release what they say they are going to.
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Why should Samsung support us at XDA with its Exynos SoC ?
What is in it for Samsung to support us with the Exynos SoC ... ?
Where do we give Samsung a competitive edge over other mobile makers ?
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Gillion said:
Why should Samsung support us at XDA with its Exynos SoC ?
What is in it for Samsung to support us with the Exynos SoC ... ?
Where do we give Samsung a competitive edge over other mobile makers ?
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Samsung go on record stating they will release code for this and that... and almost never do.
Plus we buy the device. People are switching to other devices because of ROM availability and developers supporting other phone manufacturers.
Its in their interest to sell as many phones as possibile. So they are losing market share buy not following through with their promisses.
Thinking about their prospective... Apparently not enough to make a difference

Gillion said:
Why should Samsung support us at XDA with its Exynos SoC ?
What is in it for Samsung to support us with the Exynos SoC ... ?
Where do we give Samsung a competitive edge over other mobile makers ?
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Word of mouth, tech savvy support, recommendations.
Although all of that can be negligible compared to the marketing monster at Samsung.

Gillion said:
Why should Samsung support us at XDA with its Exynos SoC ?
What is in it for Samsung to support us with the Exynos SoC ... ?
Where do we give Samsung a competitive edge over other mobile makers ?
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Excellent question.
Us...
Them...

Gillion said:
Why should Samsung support us at XDA with its Exynos SoC ?
What is in it for Samsung to support us with the Exynos SoC ... ?
Where do we give Samsung a competitive edge over other mobile makers ?
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tech savvy people are the ones who "are not so tech savvy" ask for recommendations for phones
it may not affect samsung sales a lot but still has some sort of impact
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hamdogg said:
... But I do think that its a good move to use the snapdragon 800 in their i95005G device (google edition) ...
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What ? where did you get that ? or is just your wish.

rsndetre said:
What ? where did you get that ? or is just your wish.
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No need to try and be condescending... Its all over the forum... even in news articles like this one:
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hamdogg said:
I agree that its disappointing that the Exynos 5 chip hasn't been as good as they projected, and publicised.
But I do think that its a good move to use the snapdragon 800 in their i95005G device (google edition)
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Don't you mean I9505G that is being released next week? And if so they are using the same chip as the I9505, namely the Snapdragon 600, not 800. For all intents and purposes they're the same device.
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Pagnell said:
Don't you mean I9505G that is being released next week? And if so they are using the same chip as the I9505, namely the Snapdragon 600, not 800. For all intents and purposes they're the same device.
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Yeah agreed... got my device number confused.. SnapD 600 in the G addition...
The snapdragon 800 is appearing in the GS4 in Korea first then the US market. (as stated by engadget, pocketnow)
Wonder if there will be a mass exodus of snapdragon 600 S4's on ebay just before release

They will never going to use Exynos on Note 3?
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hamdogg said:
No need to try and be condescending... Its all over the forum... even in news articles like this one:
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So the leak of a South Korea user manual doesn't quite apply to the Western world, but it does imply the likelihood of the same powerhouse Snapdragon 800 processor inside the rumored Galaxy Note III. Also, the user manual doesn't specifically state that the device is a Galaxy S4, however the specs and dimensions match those of the device, making it probable that a variant running Qualcomm's Snapdragon 800 is imminent.
It is unclear if we will see a Galaxy S4 with the latest Snapdragon 800, but it is an exciting possibility. Check back in later for Samsung's Premiere 2013 Galaxy and ATIV event news, which kicks off at 2pm ET.
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So it's not a sure thing...

hamdogg said:
Yeah agreed... got my device number confused.. SnapD 600 in the G addition...
The snapdragon 800 is appearing in the GS4 in Korea first then the US market. (as stated by engadget, pocketnow)
Wonder if there will be a mass exodus of snapdragon 600 S4's on ebay just before release
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Unlikely given that there is nothing out there at the moment that can make a Galaxy S3 break sweat, never mind an S4. Someone would have to be a bit stupid to be that bothered about extra performance which won't even be noticed in the real world.
This S4 is more than sufficient for my needs until my contact is up in 2 years time.
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IMO, Why Google need snapdragon for there Google S4.?
Simple, Google don't want to be Apple - COZ, Samsung was the chip maker of Apple till yet but after there fight of patents, Apple simply drop there idea for CHIPS.
Samsung is preparing Exynox 4 (not OCTA ONE Exynox 5) chipset for there Tizen devices. They have successfully tested it on i9500 model.
Dont be feared guys. New Note 3 will be powered by Exynox 5 chipset. Samsung will support their Exynox chipset very well.:good:

Disturbed™ said:
IMO, Why Google need snapdragon for there Google S4.?
Simple, Google don't want to be Apple - COZ, Samsung was the chip maker of Apple till yet but after there fight of patents, Apple simply drop there idea for CHIPS.
Samsung is preparing Exynox 4 (not OCTA ONE Exynox 5) chipset for there Tizen devices. They have successfully tested it on i9500 model.
Dont be feared guys. New Note 3 will be powered by Exynox 5 chipset. Samsung will support their Exynox chipset very well.:good:
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Yes, samsung Dont gain anything for using snapdragom soc, New gs4 will be a sd800 only because of LteA
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