Why wasn't there been no information about Chipset that is being used at S8 / S8+? Does anybody have any idea what is the chip that will be shipped globally? (Snapdragon 835 or Exynos). Nonetheless, the unpacked event was not so exciting as I expected. There is nothing much to say other than Screen ratio, Bixby and Dex.
Were you really as excited as you though earlier? Did Samsung fulfilled your expectation.
They said we made a new 10nm processor so it's obviously the Exynos, they didnt mention snapdragon so i guess it will be like the S6 with exynos only, maybe.
SM-G950F/FD/N, SM-G955F/FD/N aka International and Korean will be the Exynos 8895
G950U/0 and G955U/0 + US variants will be the Snapdragon 835
Most likely we're gonna get the SD835 version. At least that's what Mobilesyrup said.
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They said we made a new 10nm processor so it's obviously the Exynos, they didnt mention snapdragon so i guess it will be like the S6 with exynos only, maybe.
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They also manufactured the sd835 , which is also 10nm processor
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Most likely we're gonna get the SD835 version. At least that's what Mobilesyrup said.
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If the note 7 and s7 trend continues yep.bootloader probably locked again also.
Which means most of us will end up with an international Exynos model lol.
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What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe.
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What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe.
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Samsung international phones don't work on Verizon.
always found it odd that the USA still hold on the less deployed cdma networks. they need to go GSM all the way!
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always found it odd that the USA still hold on the less deployed cdma networks. they need to go GSM all the way!
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Actually they are. Sprint and Verizon only use CDMA for fallback and voice for now. There lte is gsm and once volte gets widespread enough CDMA will be shut down and refarmed for lte.
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Why can't Samsung make one chipset that supports for all countries. I don't have a great knowledge in chip designing. But i am always curious to know why different chipsets are needed for LTE. Why Exynos is not compatible with LTE (USA LTE). How is the scenario with iphone, iphone 5 is in India too. Does it have a different chipset from USA's ?
Processer problem? or not
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Why can't Samsung make one chipset that supports for all countries. I don't have a great knowledge in chip designing. But i am always curious to know why different chipsets are needed for LTE. Why Exynos is not compatible with LTE (USA LTE). How is the scenario with iphone, iphone 5 is in India too. Does it have a different chipset from USA's ?
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Well.. I don't think that problem is into Main chipset.
The galaxy s3's Exynos 4412 processer supports LTE. but samsung released by 3G version. I don't know why is itand also, samsung released korean galaxy s4 version by LTE with Exynos again
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Also with Note2 , Samsung launched with One Exynos processer chipset worldwide, same phone, just different modem and radio files.
I thought Samsung did sortout LTE band issue.
But but, Samsung dissapointed me with snapdragon qualcomm chipset in Canada again.
varunkumars said:
Why can't Samsung make one chipset that supports for all countries. I don't have a great knowledge in chip designing. But i am always curious to know why different chipsets are needed for LTE. Why Exynos is not compatible with LTE (USA LTE). How is the scenario with iphone, iphone 5 is in India too. Does it have a different chipset from USA's ?
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I think it s about the Trust from Americans
i m not american but i trust on Snapdragon (from USA) more than Exynos (& Cortex from Korea and UK ...) !!!
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maybe Samsung try to behave WISER in US
step by step and better performance
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Samsung will do the same sh*t with the S4 as they did with the S3.
3 months after releasing the S3 i9300 in Australia they released the S3 4g i9305. Helps boost sales to suckers like me.
This time they'll probably release the i9505 lte snapdragon version then a few months down the track claim they found a way to get 4g working on the Octa and probably release a i9510.
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Was this exynos lte variant released on all the major carriers? More in particular was it released for at&t?
exynos for note 2, im guessing they were able to fit in a LTE chip due to the size of the phone 5.5
since the s4 keeps the s3 form factor, plus almost 1mm thinner, there was no way they couldve included lte with the exynos.
Plus they are having manufacturing issues with the exynos, so by fall when the note 3 launches, it shouldnt be a issue.
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Was this exynos lte variant released on all the major carriers? More in particular was it released for at&t?
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Not sure but I believe in the US they stayed the same dual core models. In some overseas markets where the international model was sold they then introduced the quad core lte model (i9305).
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You guys should search before posting. There is already a thread discussing this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2200796
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Refer to the existing thread cited above.
Hey Guys,
I am currently using the S6 and I hate this damn piece of S*** because the phone reception and call quality is conclusively terrible compared to other devices that are using the Snapdragon Processor Variant.
Don't tell me it's not true because I have tested it. RECEPTION WITH EXYNOS PRROCESSORS IS TERRIBLE - PERIOD.
I want the Snapdragon and I am really hoping it will be available in Europe. What if it isn't? can I still by the Snapdragon and will it work on the LTE bands in Europe? Any known disadvantages?
I'd love to hear your words.
Contacted Samsung France today ... It's sadly true ... No custom ROMs for us ..
That is indeed sad but what's even more sad ais that the Exynos Variant sucks even more with cellphone reception. I had the Nexus 6P Snapdragon 810 for a few days and MAN you won't believe how much stronger the reception was.
There is no doubt at all that the Exynos variant has a significantly worse LTE Radio and for that I will simply buy the G5 after 8 YEARS OF SAMSUNG ONLY.
It's enough suffering with this crap reception, dropped and missed calls! Worthless Samsung - FAIL
NEVER AGAIN.
I live in europe and I hate exynos chipset too. Any solution to import snapdragon version??
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I live in europe and I hate exynos chipset too. Any solution to import snapdragon version??
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Most likely ebay.com, i doubt tmobile will ship one to you.
I think i will do that. Thank you, you think it will be better than exynos version for developement for sure?
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I think i will do that. Thank you, you think it will be better than exynos version for developement for sure?
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But development of what? The exynos will have plenty of roms being made for it, except they'll most likely be based on the stock touchwiz rom. If you want aosp then you'll want the snapdragon version. But the s6 currently has an aosp being developed for it, so that will most likely be available on the s7 too in the future.
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But development of what? The exynos will have plenty of roms being made for it, except they'll most likely be based on the stock touchwiz rom. If you want aosp then you'll want the snapdragon version. But the s6 currently has an aosp being developed for it, so that will most likely be available on the s7 too in the future.
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I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made ?)
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I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made )
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You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos?
AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:
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You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos?
AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:
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Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820
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Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820
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Need an SD820 variant
clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
I found some on eBay but it's 1k€
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That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.
Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.
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clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
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You might want to check which model this actually is prior to purchasing. Global version G395F does not have Snapdragon meaning they're likely selling an Overpriced G395T.
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That is indeed sad but what's even more sad ais that the Exynos Variant sucks even more with cellphone reception. I had the Nexus 6P Snapdragon 810 for a few days and MAN you won't believe how much stronger the reception was.
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So, to confirm, you had superior reception on a completely different phone from a completely different manufacturer and you automatically put it down to the chipset?
So anyone has a idea about how getting SD820 in Europe without paying 900€+ ?
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clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
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I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly
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I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly
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EBay is the only way..
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That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.
Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.
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Thanks, that's good news. Where did you get that information. I'm okay with the Exynos processor as it is but I know that the lte modem on the s6 is terrible. What's the best way to find out how the reception of the Exynos variant stacks up against the snapdragon variant ?
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Hi. Im living in Russia and there are only exynos variant available. After using rather bad exynos note 4 (overheat, bad reception, 3g/4g battery drain, poor aosp development) i decided to buy snapdragon variant of s7 edge. I believe samsung is using superior versions of their handsets in key markets such as NA and China. But for my surprise all s7 edge sold in USA are carrier bound. My question are there unlocked s7 edge snapdragon? What carrier should i choose? Will at-t and t-mobile phones work with other gsm carriers around the world. Also i need no carrier bloatware and unlocked bootloader. As for network i need band 20 800Mhz and band 7 2600Mhz.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi. Im living in Russia and there are only exynos variant available. After using rather bad exynos note 4 (overheat, bad reception, 3g/4g battery drain, poor aosp development) i decided to buy snapdragon variant of s7 edge. I believe samsung is using superior versions of their handsets in key markets such as NA and China. But for my surprise all s7 edge sold in USA are carrier bound. My question are there unlocked s7 edge snapdragon? What carrier should i choose? Will at-t and t-mobile phones work with other gsm carriers around the world. Also i need no carrier bloatware and unlocked bootloader. As for network i need band 20 800Mhz and band 7 2600Mhz.
Thanks in advance.
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None of the U.S. devices cover band 7 nor 20 i guess, those bands aren't used over there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Also, normally carrier locked devices won't work for other carriers unless you hack (was not possible at recent devices afaik) it or pay for unlocking it. But you could be lucky there at the s7 with it locking just at first boot. It could be, that it'll lock to your carrier instead of the one you bought it from, but you'll have to verify that it works before, also it'll only work, if it never has been booted by any employ at the carrier you bought it to ship it locked already.
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None of the U.S. devices cover band 7 nor 20 i guess, those bands aren't used over there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Also, normally carrier locked devices won't work for other carriers unless you hack (was not possible at recent devices afaik) it or pay for unlocking it. But you could be lucky there at the s7 with it locking just at first boot. It could be, that it'll lock to your carrier instead of the one you bought it from, but you'll have to verify that it works before, also it'll only work, if it never has been booted by any employ at the carrier you bought it to ship it locked already.
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I saw people importing note 4 sm-910c to USA because its compatible with US lte frequences Same model sold in Russia. I think device itself can support this frequnces though they are not used there.
I'd wait before presuming the Snapdragon model will be superior to the Exynos, especially in terms of things like overheat and reception. It's certainly possible it will be the better option, but there is no guarantee yet. And especially with the debacle on the 810, Snapdragon haven't exactly covered themselves in glory recently.
Hardly anyone has the Exynos model yet, whilst there are a lot of T-Mobile customers in the US who have the Snapdragon, some of who are reporting being unable to use the VR headset for more than 30 minutes without the phone complaining of overheat. Wait until next week and there will be proper comparison reviews that go beyond Snapdragon having a few extra meaningless numbers on some benchmark. That's when an informed decision can be made as to whether it's worth going through the bother of buying your device out of territory and forsaking the manufacturer guarantee.
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I'd wait before presuming the Snapdragon model will be superior to the Exynos, especially in terms of things like overheat and reception. It's certainly possible it will be the better option, but there is no guarantee yet. And especially with the debacle on the 810, Snapdragon haven't exactly covered themselves in glory recently.
Hardly anyone has the Exynos model yet, whilst there are a lot of T-Mobile customers in the US who have the Snapdragon, some of who are reporting being unable to use the VR headset for more than 30 minutes without the phone complaining of overheat. Wait until next week and there will be proper comparison reviews that go beyond Snapdragon having a few extra meaningless numbers on some benchmark. That's when an informed decision can be made as to whether it's worth going through the bother of buying your device out of territory and forsaking the manufacturer guarantee.
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Good point. I bother buying snapdragon mostly because of lower TDP and better 4g reception in past models. If exynos become equal in this areas i see no point in importing. And i dont wanna wait long cause if i preorder before 18 march i will get free gear vr though i dont need it xD
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Note 4 have both sd and exynos variants. Its note 5 only nave exynos.
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Note 4 have both sd and exynos variants. Its note 5 only nave exynos.
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Yes, that's why I've removed the post, mixed the numbering, sorry.
But if you take a look, at least here aren't any of those bands supported at the U.S. variants.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/detailed-sm-g935-s7-info-t3326180
But what about carrier software? I heard some carriers replace stock samsung apps like browser. Also is it true what at-t and tmobile phones recieve updates later than their unlocked counterparts?
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But what about carrier software? I heard some carriers replace stock samsung apps like browser. Also is it true what at-t and tmobile phones recieve updates later than their unlocked counterparts?
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Would be the first time I hear something like the browser replaced by a carrier, but maybe possible, in common they just add stuff though and make small changes (modem, bootscreen,...). And yes, carrier devices in common get updates later, because the carriers have to incorporate their changes (which can be a few days to months, depends on the carrier), but at the european variants we're lucky with stock roms at least (or at least have been). In most cases you simply can flash a unbranded rom there through odin without second thought.
I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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I heard the Exynos had more LTE bands that's why it's for the international models. Did you mean something else, correct me if I am wrong.
I ordered the exynos will get it tomorrow from Amazon. Going to use it on att. My 5x will be my flashing phone and for the n preview
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I heard the Exynos had more LTE bands that's why it's for the international models. Did you mean something else, correct me if I am wrong.
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Exynos doesn't support CDMA.
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Exynos doesn't support CDMA.
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Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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The Edge 935F exynos forum is active. I guess the larger , more expensive model has more folllowers on XDA. I wished the forums were merged like in reddit. With very few exceptions, a discussion about the S7 Edge applies to the regular S7.
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I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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Not everyone can drop $600 on a phone. Most of the Exynos ones purchased online do not come with a factory warranty. The SD model normally benchmarks higher in single core power and graphics. The Exynos higher in multi core processing. Each person has a preference. Since the Exynos model isn't a US model your average phone person doesn't even know what it is.
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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The Exynos supports more LTE bands, but the Snapdragon supports CDMA. Hence why it's used in markets that require CDMA .
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Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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None of the Canadian carriers use CDMA. We're all GSM/LTE now. Have been since Telus/Bell cooperated for the 2010 Olympics.
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What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe. Anyone else getting the earbuds with the preorder promo?
The US bootloader won't be unlockable.
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The US bootloader won't be unlockable.
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Isnt that whats been said about almost every samsung phone?
You have 1 choice as always with Verizon. You get the Verizon version like always.
How do you even pre-order the international version? On the samsung site all I see are the carrier branded ones.
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Isnt that whats been said about almost every samsung phone?
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When was the last US Samung Galaxy device unlockable?
US because I'm sure the S8 will support the international U model firmware like the S7
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How do you even pre-order the international version? On the samsung site all I see are the carrier branded ones.
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You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html
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What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us.
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I'm pretty sure you'll have to get the Verizon model as Verizon is a CDMA network and the international model is GSM and won't work (it'd work on AT&T and T-Mobile as they are GSM networks). Even if it did work you'd have to consider what frequencies/bands the international model supports vs what your carrier uses (and it seems that's not been specified yet, at least not on GSMArena, unless all versions supports all the same frequencies/bands).
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You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html
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Interesting only black and that feminine mauve colour (grey my ass).
I wonder where the silver and gold versions are being sold?
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You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html
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NM, I tried to do a fake purchase and wasn't able to get them to ship to US, only UK.
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Do they ship to the US?
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Do they ship to the US?
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nope, my bad, i should of checked before posting.
So the International model with the Exynos chip does not have CDMA radios/modems, correct?
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So the International model with the Exynos chip does not have CDMA radios/modems, correct?
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We already covered this in another thread no?
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happy2472 said:
What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe. Anyone else getting the earbuds with the preorder promo?
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Samsung pay wont work on International
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Samsung pay wont work on International
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Yes true.
Good thing i dont use it...hell i dont even know if we have it in canada lol.
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We already covered this in another thread no?
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No.
Listen everyone if you cant reply with a positive response or helpful then please dont reply at all.
I'd be careful
I am still looking into comparing the US Snapdragon variant of the Samsung Galaxy S8+ vs the International variant with the Exynos chip. I will say the Exynos chip usually works a lot better than the snapdragon on a samsung phone. Which makes sense since it is a Samsung chip. The real world speed tests for the Exynos and benchmark tests usually outdo the snapdragon.
With that said, frequency bands need to be compared. Because obviously the international variant will not work for Sprint or Verizon. Furthermore, there are LTE bands to worry about for T-Mobile and AT&T. And I can not seem to verify the bands for the international variant. From what I remember for the S7 International variant, there was no LTE band 12 which T-Mobile uses for their new LTE band. It didn't matter much before but now this band is being used for low-band spectrum which is for inside buildings and rural long distance connections. This band is expanding.
Therefore, I want to first see the real word speed tests (because snapdragon upped their game a bit) and confirm the frequency bands which seems to be harder than I thought. Frequencycheck seems to think the INternational variant has Band 12 but are they reliable this early?
Anyway, can anyone confirm the LTE bands for the International G955F variant? Maybe I need to search in German or French.