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For those who are uninitiated, Package disabler pro is an app on the app store that lets you disable programs on your android device without rooting. You can get gains in battery life and performance by disabling bloat using this program.
So far I'm taking a very light approach.
I've disabled:
Android Pay :
com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel
CarmodeStub
com.samsung.android.drivelink.stub
Hancom Office 2014
com.hancom.office.editor
Live TV
com.sling.slingtvloader
Lookout
com.lookout
Samsung Milk Music
com.samsung.mdl.radio
Samsung+
com.samsung.oh
T-Mobile TV
com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
I've got 1796 RAM free after a reboot which I feel is pretty good. Although there are probably a ton more things that could be easily disabled. I figured we could get the ball rolling on everyone's results with disabling certain packages as we experiment.
cbutters said:
For those who are uninitiated, Package disabler pro is an app on the app store that lets you disable programs on your android device without rooting. You can get gains in battery life and performance by disabling bloat using this program.
So far I'm taking a very light approach.
I've disabled:
Android Pay :
com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel
CarmodeStub
com.samsung.android.drivelink.stub
Hancom Office 2014
com.hancom.office.editor
Live TV
com.sling.slingtvloader
Lookout
com.lookout
Samsung Milk Music
com.samsung.mdl.radio
Samsung+
com.samsung.oh
T-Mobile TV
com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
I've got 1796 RAM free after a reboot which I feel is pretty good. Although there are probably a ton more things that could be easily disabled. I figured we could get the ball rolling on everyone's results with disabling certain packages as we experiment.
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Can you disable T-Mobile's "Carrier IQ?" Or is it just T-Mobile and Samsung bloat? Might buy that app later.
nviz22 said:
Can you disable T-Mobile's "Carrier IQ?" Or is it just T-Mobile and Samsung bloat? Might buy that app later.
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Might need root to be able to do that. I guess.
This was done on the note 5 prior to root. All the work has been done. @rlsroufe has a few xml's done already extreme and a basic one. I still have my list from the note 5. You can just import one of his and tweak it to your needs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
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danon.brown said:
This was done on the note 5 prior to root. All the work has been done. @rlsroufe has a few xml's done already extreme and a basic one. I still have my list from the note 5. You can just import one of his and tweak it to your needs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
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I realize that it was done on the note5, and your link is a great resource, but the application stack is different on the S7 edge (all the edge applications and new "advanced features" tools. And the lack of snote / pen services) Also marshmallow vs Lollipop, I thought it would be good to have device specific (S7 Edge) information in this thread.
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I realize that it was done on the note5, and your link is a great resource, but the application stack is different on the S7 edge (all the edge applications and new "advanced features" tools. And the lack of snote / pen services) Also marshmallow vs Lollipop, I thought it would be good to have device specific (S7 Edge) information in this thread.
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If you import the list you can build off of that. If the app isn't there it cancels out. All the basic apps are there. I use the same apps as lollipop. So the list is almost identical. From my note 5.
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danon.brown said:
If you import the list you can build off of that. If the app isn't there it cancels out. All the basic apps are there. I use the same apps as lollipop. So the list is almost identical. From my note 5.
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I see Google.android.talk in there... Is that hangouts? I use hangouts so I don't want that to be disabled..
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I see Google.android.talk in there... Is that hangouts? I use hangouts so I don't want that to be disabled..
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Correct. You have to tweak it. Once you import it you can go through and uncheck whatever you use. Everyone uses different apps.
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I realize that it was done on the note5, and your link is a great resource, but the application stack is different on the S7 edge (all the edge applications and new "advanced features" tools. And the lack of snote / pen services) Also marshmallow vs Lollipop, I thought it would be good to have device specific (S7 Edge) information in this thread.
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OP, I'm disabling apps manually to get it where I want... I'll upload screenshots of it when I'm finished. Look for an update late tonight or tomorrow. We can tinker from there until it's perfect for use.
I believe the EDGE doesn't use CIQ anymore, but doesn't mean they are not using something else which they probably do as the setup process asks for "anonymous data collecting" for network management or something like that.
Here is my list. I copied my list from my Note 5 which I started with the XML file that was posted in the linked thread already. I have been having no issues and after getting the phone on Tuesday it has settled down today and I am at 76% battery left with 8 hours off the charger and 1 hour of screen on time (busy day at work today so far).
Here's mine
Why not just go into settings, apps, and disable from there?
blackangst said:
Why not just go into settings, apps, and disable from there?
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Because with Package Disabler you can literally disable any system package.
Here's my list after looking at the couple posted here and adding in my things too. I use Hangouts and pretty much all of the Google stuff (Gmail is blocked because I use Inbox).
Sorry there are so many, you can't scroll screenshot on the S7 Edge
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Here's my list after looking at the couple posted here and adding in my things too. I use Hangouts and pretty much all of the Google stuff (Gmail is blocked because I use Inbox).
Sorry there are so many, you can't scroll screenshot on the S7 Edge
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Curious to find out if after disabling these apps and processes you still show Android System as your biggest battery drainer. Keep us poster, please.
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GiancarloMorr24 said:
Curious to find out if after disabling these apps and processes you still show Android System as your biggest battery drainer. Keep us poster, please.
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Will do. I'm not sure that it will change that from being the biggest battery "drainer" though... My battery was pretty good already. I know we see that on top and automatically think it's a big drain, but I think it's just that way because nothing else uses much battery.
We shall see though!
eorsini said:
Will do. I'm not sure that it will change that from being the biggest battery "drainer" though... My battery was pretty good already. I know we see that on top and automatically think it's a big drain, but I think it's just that way because nothing else uses much battery.
We shall see though!
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That's probably the case. Nonetheless, we see folks on the Exynos variant whose battery stats show significantly less drain from Android System as an overall percentage of battery use over a given charge cycle. Could it be a difference in processor efficiencies, or a TMobile specific "issue?" I have no clue but it's helpful to gather as much information as possible.
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GiancarloMorr24 said:
That's probably the case. Nonetheless, we see folks on the Exynos variant whose battery stats show significantly less drain from Android System as an overall percentage of battery use over a given charge cycle. Could it be a difference in processor efficiencies, or a TMobile specific "issue?" I have no clue but it's helpful to gather as much information as possible.
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Could be the difference in chips. Battery has been great for me as well despite Android System being the biggest "battery hog". Indeed it must be due to the fact that nothing else is consuming much percentage of the battery and if that's the case then it makes sense why Android System would have the highest percentage in battery usage.
I know on my note5 there was something I was disabling that was killing Wi-Fi calling. The packages you are disabling does Wi-Fi calling still work?
I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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To be honest bro, I have the s7 edge at home for Verizon & I use the Nexus 6p as my daily. It's just how smooth and fast this phone is, touchwiz laggs like crazy compared to my Nexus 6p on beans rom, also I'm running my rooted apps like servicely and I get better battery life. If the s7 edge had root and unlocked bootloader no doubt it would whoop the Nexus 6p, but currently it just doesn't man.
Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.
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Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.
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Your kidding right?
Alpha release, if you believe that you don't understand alpha, beta, and shipping releases. This is obviously a shipping release. Very few bugs.
I've never had anice emulator run games as well as a flagship. Root is/was useful when companies couldn't put their bloatware on the phones without causing all kinds of havoc on the system. Now between cutting a bunch of bloat and increasing the specs the flagship store run super well.
I'm really not sure why you would say it's an alpha release, maybe you have a bad device and should return it.
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I miss root a lot, as well as tinkering around. I imagine if root doesn't happen in the next month or two I may be tempted to sell S7E. I am not loyal to any cell until it's really rootable. Options are everything.
Have their been any announcements on any teams or members working on root, or is this something people don't want to say in the event they are unsuccessful?
I'm rather enjoying using Samsung Pay at the moment. Can't say I'd want to lose that by messing with things.
Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
cpufrost said:
Then, those who like to play around, increase instability, and decrease system security can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Fixed it for you. If we're going to post negotiate about one side, might add well be honest and post them about both.
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cpufrost said:
Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Minus the 3Mint (never heard of it), I miss all of the above, in addition to Viper4Android. Man. The stock equalizer is aight, but I can't get half the power that I did out of Viper. And I never realized how many of my apps and pages had ads until I didn't have AdAway/root. I've developed, so I realize you have to make money, but most ads are most of the time inherently dangerous.
OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.
geoff5093 said:
OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.
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Dead on. I wasted a few years on the nexus program. It's fun but very tedious. Now I just enjoy my games and use my device. The fiancé much enjoys me not up late at night resetting things up due to a bad flash, bug, etc.
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I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.
jackscagnetti said:
I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.
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Sounds like you are actually agreeing with him...
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That is what I mean. With rooting phones it becomes slightly tedious.
My wife has an iPhone and I admired how that phone just works with very few hiccups. I don't believe any phone is perfect, but I like Android better and I feel this phone is close to being perfect with a few quirks.
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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.
mugsy77 said:
The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.
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I'm the same. Working ad-blocker is a big deal for me. Among other things. May end up buying it out and selling it on swappa.
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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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But if you use the Samsung browser you CAN use AD blocker without root, as it supports it as an add in. Google it.
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I'm just about to buy a new flagship,of course my options are the G5 S7 and HTC10, each has its specific advantages, I like G5 features as modularity dual cameras IR blaster, I'm not concerned on metal glass finish since I put my phone always in some dumb-proof case coz I use to drop or put it where shouldn't be, that criteria its why looks like g5 s7 an htc10 are almost in a tie, few differentiator are htc10 front camera with ois and integrated dac cleanable Android, s7 wireless charging and small size, Knox .
I don't care on dac, slightly better camera or wireless charging are things I can live without .
But repairability , its something I really appreciate since I'm not strange on requiring to switch screens batteries or plugs even full body exchange, here the G5 shines also the IR blaster its useful for me coz I use to miss the remotes .
So I almost decided to go on an G5. But.....
Something I don't consider trivial its bloatware, while companies as ASUS allow full uninstall of 3rd party apps and most Asus apps while keeps few forks on stock Android apps , htc10 also seems its much better providing if one want so the closest to stick nexus-like experience , that's really great .
But this usually can be achieved on other phones thru little tricks, I want to know how much bloat left on the LG G5 after basic uninstall/cleanup , and what you can do on the rest (uninstall via root tools , frozen ir just replace with apps like Nova Launcher ).
What the state of the bloat nation on the G5?
Thanks in advance.
I just got myself a G5. I was worried about bloatware too but now looking at it, its really not that bad. There are about 3 useless apps (that I used Nova launcher to hide) but some of the apps are actually really cool. For example you can't uninstall a certain app called the quickremote, but upon further inspection it was LG's app for utilizing the IR sensor. It has so many codes at your disposal. Super useful. I'm not really the type who takes pictures on my phone either but the great cameras have actually tempted me to quite a few times now. The modules I haven't really got into and the battery life is actually pretty good. I recommend this phone.
I was pretty much exclusively a Nexus user (N1, N4, N5, N6) and the only reason I didn't get the 6P was because they weren't selling it through T-Mobile so I couldn't directly upgrade to it... so I feel your anxiety regarding the bloatware on other phones. It's a primary reason I don't see myself ever buying a Samsung phone!
That said, the situation on the G5 isn't that bad. The vast majority of the pre-installed stuff is actually able to just be deleted! There's a few that can't (like the Amazon app), but they don't intrude in the way things like the Lookout (I think it's called) app does. But even then, you CAN uninstall that one.
If you're worried about the bloat, you shouldn't. My issues more lie in the ways they tweaked the way Android behaves- like, when I swipe down on the notification bar, it drops all the way down to the quick settings, and you have to push it BACK UP to get to the rest of your notifications. Also: if you're on WiFi Calling, there's an omnipresent notification that can't be swiped away. Or, the Smart Home settings- I'd like for, when I'm not at home, for it to turn the WiFi off. It does this, but it sends a notification letting you know that it did. That's something that should just be invisible, but instead the thing wants to brag about it.
Anyway, I hope this was helpful. I'm really digging this phone despite it's quirks, and the bloat was only annoying in the first 10-15 minutes after starting the phone for the first time. Once I weeded it out, it's like it was never there.
bloat apps
chocobomoshpit said:
I was pretty much exclusively a Nexus user (N1, N4, N5, N6) and the only reason I didn't get the 6P was because they weren't selling it through T-Mobile so I couldn't directly upgrade to it... so I feel your anxiety regarding the bloatware on other phones. It's a primary reason I don't see myself ever buying a Samsung phone!
That said, the situation on the G5 isn't that bad. The vast majority of the pre-installed stuff is actually able to just be deleted! There's a few that can't (like the Amazon app), but they don't intrude in the way things like the Lookout (I think it's called) app does. But even then, you CAN uninstall that one.
If you're worried about the bloat, you shouldn't. My issues more lie in the ways they tweaked the way Android behaves- like, when I swipe down on the notification bar, it drops all the way down to the quick settings, and you have to push it BACK UP to get to the rest of your notifications. Also: if you're on WiFi Calling, there's an omnipresent notification that can't be swiped away. Or, the Smart Home settings- I'd like for, when I'm not at home, for it to turn the WiFi off. It does this, but it sends a notification letting you know that it did. That's something that should just be invisible, but instead the thing wants to brag about it.
Anyway, I hope this was helpful. I'm really digging this phone despite it's quirks, and the bloat was only annoying in the first 10-15 minutes after starting the phone for the first time. Once I weeded it out, it's like it was never there.
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Can you tell what those apps are on the G5? I would like to know what to disable.
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@AcostaJA you dont' want bloatware? Root your phone and delete them all!
tubi99 said:
Can you tell what those apps are on the G5? I would like to know what to disable.
Thanks
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There's debloat zips threads. Read what apps they took out and disable.
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When it comes to bloat, I have updated the andr version to 7.0 v20c and no bloat..
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My AT&T LG G5 is full of bloatware. It will not let me remove it either. At least I haven't found a way to remove it. My LG G2 which I had root, was great once I cleaned up all the bloat. But this G5 has been very disappointing because of the impact of all the bloat. There is easily 6 or more programs wasting battery and cpu, but I can't get rid of them and AT&T continues to update them., making them even bigger hogs. Doesn't look like they will ever root it (H-820) either. Could be a very nice phone but the bloat ruined it for me.
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My AT&T LG G5 is full of bloatware. It will not let me remove it either. At least I haven't found a way to remove it. My LG G2 which I had root, was great once I cleaned up all the bloat. But this G5 has been very disappointing because of the impact of all the bloat. There is easily 6 or more programs wasting battery and cpu, but I can't get rid of them and AT&T continues to update them., making them even bigger hogs. Doesn't look like they will ever root it (H-820) either. Could be a very nice phone but the bloat ruined it for me.
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Disable for time being. It is annoying that these companies do this. Honestly most bloat apps they put in these phones are worthless.
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So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
If you're a Nexus fan, get the Nexus 6P. It's just as good or maybe even better depending on your likes.
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Simone said:
If you're a Nexus fan, get the Nexus 6P. It's just as good or maybe even better depending on your likes.
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That phone is so old now though by todays standards.
chugger93 said:
That phone is so old now though by todays standards.
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Still better than s7 )
Diaze said:
Still better than s7 )
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Except that it isn't! I have both and I much prefer my S7E, which is why it is my primary device and my N6P my backup.
Regards,
Dave
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chugger93 said:
So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
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New to the S7 edge myself. From what I've seen so far there's no rooting or anything unless you're on the non-US version. Knox is apparently a sort of security system that is part of the reason (maybe the whole reason?) you can't root it. Touchwiz does suck, the phone was super cluttered and really ugly compared to iOS which I've just moved from. I was thinking hard about taking the phone back after the first hour or so using it but installing Nova Launcher Prime fixed that for me. Disabling the bloat as well made it a great experience. It's a good little phone, the battery life is incredible (compared to my 6s Plus). No problem getting through 2 days before having to charge it. Zippy as well, very fast phone.
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New to the S7 edge myself. From what I've seen so far there's no rooting or anything unless you're on the non-US version. Knox is apparently a sort of security system that is part of the reason (maybe the whole reason?) you can't root it. Touchwiz does suck, the phone was super cluttered and really ugly compared to iOS which I've just moved from. I was thinking hard about taking the phone back after the first hour or so using it but installing Nova Launcher Prime fixed that for me. Disabling the bloat as well made it a great experience. It's a good little phone, the battery life is incredible (compared to my 6s Plus). No problem getting through 2 days before having to charge it. Zippy as well, very fast phone.
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Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
iTouch24 said:
Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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It ran fast out of the box for me, it may come down to what we have installed? I used EZ Disabler (paid version) to disable the bloatware. The only game I have is Shadow Era and it doesn't do anything in the background so I can't speak to games and background activity. The only things I have running in the background are things I'd expect (FB, Whatsapp, Telegram, email, etc.) (And I am using the American AT&T S7 edge so there's no rooting, custom ROM stuff or any of that since it's currently impossible, just stock.)
Touchwiz isn't that crappy anymore - pretty smooth actually.
And battery life is insane on the Exynos variant i can get 2-3 days of normal usage without charging (u won't get this with any SD820 phone ^^)
If you don't care about battery life that much and rather want the maximum 3D performance you would probably be better off with a SD820 phone (maybe the next nexus)
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It ran fast out of the box for me, it may come down to what we have installed? I used EZ Disabler (paid version) to disable the bloatware. The only game I have is Shadow Era and it doesn't do anything in the background so I can't speak to games and background activity. The only things I have running in the background are things I'd expect (FB, Whatsapp, Telegram, email, etc.) (And I am using the American AT&T S7 edge so there's no rooting, custom ROM stuff or any of that since it's currently impossible, just stock.)
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I have same device as u. AT&T edge.
I noticed in touchwiz if u go to appdrawer, u can edit and turn off bloatware. We can't uninstall without root but seems we can turn off.
Where r u going in setting to prevent apps from running in background.
I went through notifications n shut allot off.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
iTouch24 said:
Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Clean Master does nothing or worse for your battery. It will clean up some files but I would suggest SD Maid for that matter.
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So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
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Be aware that if you purchase from a US provider (including Sprint and T-Mobile) that you will not be able to root your S7. The bootloader is locked and the vulnerability hasn't been found yet.
Knox is a security app on Samsung phones that will keep secure whatever apps or data are in the Knox vault. It is for people who need higher security. Knox will not work if the phone has been rooted... even if the phone is later unrooted. Rooting trips a flag that will disable Knox and Samsung Pay.
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I have same device as u. AT&T edge.
I noticed in touchwiz if u go to appdrawer, u can edit and turn off bloatware. We can't uninstall without root but seems we can turn off.
Where r u going in setting to prevent apps from running in background.
I went through notifications n shut allot off.
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Yeah, you can do it that way or use a debloat program which allows you to disable things that touchwiz won't.
I use an app called Greenify (the donation package). It gives you a list of all apps that run in the background (and even system services if you're brave enough to go through them all) and it lets you force them to stop running in the background and only run when you are actually using them on screen. For example say you use Snapchat. It's always running in the background whether you've opened it or not, checking for messages. Greenify can force it to not do that unless you physically open it. The only things I let run in the background are messaging apps I rely on (SMS, Whatsapp, Telegram, Inbox, etc.) and everything else - I let greenify force to hibernate.
Is there a way to root the Samsung s10 plus?
Magisk, patch boot image and flash it with odin.
**Didn't try it** since i don't need root, but it was the way to root all my previous phone without TWRP.
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Is there a way to root the Samsung s10 plus?
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Cannot be done yet. Stay tuned to the forums (particularly Rom/kernel/dev dicussion etc.) for updates on TWRP & Magisk support for the S10/S10+/S10e
Yeah, awaiting to root my 975F too.
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Cannot be done yet. Stay tuned to the forums (particularly Rom/kernel/dev dicussion etc.) for updates on TWRP & Magisk support for the S10/S10+/S10e
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Why? Magisk Canary support s10, right? https://www.xda-developers.com/magisk-canary-update-support-aonly-system-root-android-pie/
Looking forward to root my S10+ (G975F)
Hopefully Customs Roms too
Root Samsung Galxy S10 plus using Magisk canary
Here is a detailed guide on How to Root Samsung Galaxy S10/S10+/S10e using Magisk canary. Do remember that Samsung has introduced "Vaultkeeper" feature which makes it a little different to root latest Samsung devices.
Who would want to root a device like this!? And why?
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Who would want to root a device like this!? And why?
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Samsung has made these steps complicated so that only the most enthusiastic people would want to try rooting.
Android manufacturers are starting to follow the footsteps of Apple. They are also not wanting people to mess with their devices. Huawei has also stopped providing unlock codes for their smartphones.
not sure why exactly you want to root s10+.
you can customize this device 100% and also block all those bloatwares without rooting.. so think again
There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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well, im a user who used to root every single samsung device. but i never root my s10. i managed to block ALL my ads using adguard. Why would i need Titanium backup when i can use package disabler and do the same thing (oh and by the way i still have a Pro titanium key and i love that app). i dont see a big difference between disabling bloatwares and uninstalling them. as long as they are not coming up im ok with that.
Try and search the disadvantages of rooting. Last time yes, you need to root your device to customize but now without root you can use your phone with all those so called unlocked features. just FYI my battery last for 26hours+ with 7-8 hours SOT.
Just my 2cents
happy rooting.
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This is only for the international S10 plus right? Thanks In advance!!!
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone.
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well, im a user who used to root every single samsung device. but i never root my s10. i managed to block ALL my ads using adguard. Why would i need Titanium backup when i can use package disabler and do the same thing (oh and by the way i still have a Pro titanium key and i love that app). i dont see a big difference between disabling bloatwares and uninstalling them. as long as they are not coming up im ok with that.
Try and search the disadvantages of rooting. Last time yes, you need to root your device to customize but now without root you can use your phone with all those so called unlocked features. just FYI my battery last for 26hours+ with 7-8 hours SOT.
Just my 2cents
happy rooting.
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds, which means you can and will still see adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period, so the only way is through root. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. In addition, there are certain levels of customization which can only be optained through rooting ex.. 3minit battery, etc... .And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager. Yes, I agree root is less of a necessity today than it was years ago. However, for some, it is essential and a choice they don't wish to relinquish to OEMs. Yes, there are genuine dangers to rooting. But it is a choice each individual should make for themselves, not one made by the OEM. Just, my 2 cents.
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wouldn't root a phone when using samsung pay and pass.
used to do titanium backup and remove unused apps but when system update comes, i couldn't restore them to original condition and thus no way to update.
not taking the flash update route.
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There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds, which means you can and will still see adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period, so the only way is through root. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. In addition, there are certain levels of customization which can only be optained through rooting ex.. 3minit battery, etc... .And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager. Yes, I agree root is less of a necessity today than it was years ago. However, for some, it is essential and a choice they don't wish to relinquish to OEMs. Yes, there are genuine dangers to rooting. But it is a choice each individual should make for themselves, not one made by the OEM. Just, my 2 cents.
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I do know Adguard is not a Systemwide blocker. But it does a very good job blocking ads which is exactly what i want. To me the end result is what matters.
Do you think only titanium can backup your apps data? there are so many apps which can do this without rooting your phone. And im surprised you're talking about your phone space. You do know that s10+ is a high end phone which has a 128GB inbuilt and can extend that to another 512 GB if im not mistaken right? system apps/bloatwares wont even take a GB of your phones space.
> And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager.
I do not wish to make it even better. because i've already tweaked this to the max and whats the point tweaking some more? when you have a powerful phone. Also only a small % of people do these kind of kernel changes.
battery mod all just a reason you tell yourself just coz you wanted to root your phone. Surely you can find an alternate method.
Anyways if anyone ask me about rooting s10 variants i will say dont. warranty gone, samsung pay - gone (one of the best payment method), updates need to do it manually.. some of the secure payment / banking apps wont work.
Well but i do agree with you on one thing. It's individual preference. If i decided to root i will defend my choice by talking about all those advantages. And if i choose not to root i will be talking about the disadvantages lol.
But really now a days rooting a powerful device doesnt make any sense at all - at least to an average user. im really enjoying my s10+ with nova launcher+good look customization+KWGT widgets+package disabler+adguard. It's almost like a rooted device for me now
some additional features are just a step away without rooting. simply setup adb on your pc, connect your phone with usb debugging and send some adb commands to allow WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS, CHANGE_CONFIGURATION, DUMP, depending on the app requirements.
for my use case, i had tasker and secure settings app.
on landscape orientation, it would automatically change input method to minuum (low profile keyboard). used to be using multiling though.
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I do know Adguard is not a Systemwide blocker. But it does a very good job blocking ads which is exactly what i want. To me the end result is what matters.
Do you think only titanium can backup your apps data? there are so many apps which can do this without rooting your phone. And im surprised you're talking about your phone space. You do know that s10+ is a high end phone which has a 128GB inbuilt and can extend that to another 512 GB if im not mistaken right? system apps/bloatwares wont even take a GB of your phones space.
> And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager.
I do not wish to make it even better. because i've already tweaked this to the max and whats the point tweaking some more? when you have a powerful phone. Also only a small % of people do these kind of kernel changes.
battery mod all just a reason you tell yourself just coz you wanted to root your phone. Surely you can find an alternate method.
Anyways if anyone ask me about rooting s10 variants i will say dont. warranty gone, samsung pay - gone (one of the best payment method), updates need to do it manually.. some of the secure payment / banking apps wont work.
Well but i do agree with you on one thing. It's individual preference. If i decided to root i will defend my choice by talking about all those advantages. And if i choose not to root i will be talking about the disadvantages lol.
But really now a days rooting a powerful device doesnt make any sense at all - at least to an average user. im really enjoying my s10+ with nova launcher+good look customization+KWGT widgets+package disabler+adguard. It's almost like a rooted device for me now
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To my knowledge, Titanium IS the best and only app thst can backup APK content fully, quickly and effectively. If you knows if another app that can backup APK data without root effectively please share. I would love to try it. There are thousands of apps that will backup you APKs, but none will backup their data. I have tried too many to only be disappointed at the end. If Google was able to do this effectively, I would surely stop rooting phones.
Not everyone needs a Terrabyte of capacity in their phone. It's a phone, for God's sake. I keep tens of thousands of pics and videos on mine, and still have plenty of room left; and because it's a Pixel, they are also saved in their original resolution on the cloud and are synced and available on any and all devices I log into. I also have over 230 apps installed and have plenty of room left. I won't argue that it's nicer to have more space than not, but IMO, it's not necessary for most people. It's mostly a strategy to keep getting people to buy a newer model with more this or that. Sure, a Pentabyte of space would be even better to have but I will never need it on my phones.
BTW never met anyone before who said they "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone". Given a chance, I think most people would tweak it to improve it.You must be pretty lucky with your phone. I've already seen forums about the battery life on the S10+ and how to make it better. The one one battery optimization is already 35 pages long! Either you are a light user, or you got very lucky with your phone.
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Eudeferrer said:
To my knowledge, Titanium IS the best and only app thst can backup APK content fully, quickly and effectively. If you knows if another app that can backup APK data without root effectively please share. I would love to try it. There are thousands of apps that will backup you APKs, but none will backup their data. I have tried too many to only be disappointed at the end. If Google was able to do this effectively, I would surely stop rooting phones.
Not everyone needs a Terrabyte of capacity in their phone. It's a phone, for God's sake. I keep tens of thousands of pics and videos on mine, and still have plenty of room left; and because it's a Pixel, they are also saved in their original resolution on the cloud and are synced and available on any and all devices I log into. I also have over 230 apps installed and have plenty of room left. I won't argue that it's nicer to have more space than not, but IMO, it's not necessary for most people. It's mostly a strategy to keep getting people to buy a newer model with more this or that. Sure, a Pentabyte of space would be even better to have but I will never need it on my phones.
BTW never met anyone before who said they "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone". Given a chance, I think most people would tweak it to improve it.You must be pretty lucky with your phone. I've already seen forums about the battery life on the S10+ and how to make it better. The one one battery optimization is already 35 pages long! Either you are a light user, or you got very lucky with your phone.
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To your very own knowledge you say Titanium is the best, ok fine. thats perfectly fine. Because there was this one time i was so obsessed with Titanium and that app was the 1st app i will ever install soon after rooting my device.
Reg backing up data, i do agree, that is a challenge. without rooting its difficult, but its NOT impossible. i transferred all my s9+ apps/data to s10+ without any issues. You know how? nowadays 90% apps have inbuilt backup solution. So you can easily backup your data to cloud etc. That way you can restore them without any issue. The only app data i had to redo - Duo security.
Yes, I do agree, no one ever need terabyte of capacity. I only have 256GB and I also have thousands of photos/videos. Why do you need to save tens of thousands of pics and videos in your mobile? it's a phone, for gods sake. You do know that you can backup to cloud and remove those photos. That way you can save space. So if you have enough space, why you're bothered about "disabled" apps vs uninstalled apps?
Do you know why i said "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone"? I'm a s10+ user. S10+ is a very very powerful phone with a very good battery capacity/hardware etc. I'm not a light user. People having issues with s10+ battery coz they dunno how to tweak their device. Just because there are 1001 tips to save battery, its not necessary to do them all. For example, people say reduce brightness, reduce the resolution, screen type etc. Whats the point doing all those things when you own a powerful, expensive phone? You MUST use some of those nice features without thinking much about battery usage. That's why i said I'm against doing every single things to save even 0.1% battery. I will only do reasonable tweaks and if my phone can give me 24hr + battery life then im more than happy.
Do you know that a lot of people dont use android Facebook app coz they all think it will drain the battery etc? i know that, but im still using FB, instagram etc etc. May be like you said you've never met a person who said i tweaked enough. But I've met them
I really respect all XDA devs. I still have 2 S7 devices with CF root + titanium backup etc etc. So its not that i dont like rooting. What im trying to tell you is, its not necessary to root. If you weigh the advantages / disadvantages, I only can see very few disadvantages.
You have no idea how many power hungry apps I have. I just know how to tweak them, block background access, block data access, use proper firewall etc. etc.
I'm not gonna argue with you whether rooting is good or not. Coz like i said, you have a fixed mindset that rooting is the only way. For that only im replying telling thats not the only way. Anyways, I have nothing against you. You root your device or dont root your device that got nothing to do with me. I'm just sharing that by rooting you gonna loose quite a lot of good features/apps + warranty. Last time we all had to take that risk (including me) because we literally had no choice. Now it's not like that.
Good luck, and for those who wish to root your s10+, please think again. That's all i can tell.