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[Q] Why is my S5 sluggish?

I got my S5 nearly a week ago now and I am not overly impressed. When I signed into my Google account it never auto installed my apps and I still haven't got around to it so only minimum apps installed, I have installed Clean Master and its constantly reporting slowness and to boost etc. Put it this way when I press the home button the home screen redraws most of the time, I had similar issues on my old Moto G, ram usage was nearly always full and its the same with the S5. Every thing seems slower than my Moto G which ran stock android, the camera esperically is slow.
Any ideas? I put it down to TW

My phone doesn't act like that, I don't use any apps like clean master either. Since you don't have all of your apps reinstalled do a factory reset. Maybe you have a lemon, maybe just glitches.

Get that clean master garbage off your phone, will do more harm than good.
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Yeah Cleanmaster is garbage. I use CCleaner on mine and my S5 runs smooth. Also what ever you do, don't use Advanced Task Killer.

damon7620 said:
Yeah Cleanmaster is garbage. I use CCleaner on mine and my S5 runs smooth. Also what ever you do, don't use Advanced Task Killer.
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Any of those cleaners are pretty wothless honestly, they are comparable to the mycleanpc crap.
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Agreed

Got to admit the GS5 is pretty poor when it comes to RAM usage. Mine is generally idling at about 1.10 GB and i don't have alot of apps installed as i only started using it this week. My GS3LTE was usually idling at around 800MB.

Your comparing phones separated by years and completely different hardware and functionality. Why would you expect them to be remotely the same as far as RAM usage?

I uninstalled Clean master and installed Nova, yes it has helped, I don't know I think I expected this phone to be blazing fast and its not, I think that might just be Android though.

slugger09 said:
I uninstalled Clean master and installed Nova, yes it has helped, I don't know I think I expected this phone to be blazing fast and its not, I think that might just be Android though.
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My phone is blazing fast :/ stock android with nova launcher, bunch of applications. Try a factory reset.

metalfan78 said:
Your comparing phones separated by years and completely different hardware and functionality. Why would you expect them to be remotely the same as far as RAM usage?
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I don't expect them to be similar, my point was surely RAM usage should get better with progress not worse., especially when the S5 mentioned is basically still stock and the G3 was two years old, and thus filled with apps that were using said RAM. Surly background usage shouldn't be so high straight out the box.

I understand what you are saying, but the s5 has more ram so Samsung was able to add more bloat and Samsung apps. The only way to reduce ram usage is to debloat your phone.

metalfan78 said:
I understand what you are saying, but the s5 has more ram so Samsung was able to add more bloat and Samsung apps. The only way to reduce ram usage is to debloat your phone.
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Nah my GS3 was the LTE version which had the same amount of RAM as the S5, ie 2GB.
Been considering removing all the bloatware, took a few of the service provider apps off and a couple of Google apps so far, but it's something I have to look into more before I get a bit too delete happy with it. Need to find a thread with a decent guide to what you can and can't delete. Don't want to brick my brand new phone.
Even with Bloatware though, it really shouldn't be a high as it is, when, like i said, my GS3 was idling at 200MB less and was loaded with apps.

There is a list here somewhere of apk's that are safe to remove. There are quite a few apps that the s3 didn't have that run in the background.

metalfan78 said:
There is a list here somewhere of apk's that are safe to remove. There are quite a few apps that the s3 didn't have that run in the background.
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I have a list of things like Amazon, Amazon music, Pinterest, that I don't use but I can't uninstall without root and they are running in the background.

I am not having this issue, even when i was on stock it didn't seem bad(to me at least), i am on a rom and I have greenify and this that and the other, and i can idle with almost 600 or 800 free.
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Samsung services and bloat

So i have a few questions for you previous Samsung owners out there. Primarily S6 owners.
Guess we all know these handsets comes weighted down in bloat and services nobody ever use.
Got a little worried when i read this: http://www.xda-developers.com/this-is-touchwiz-lag-and-it-better-not-show-its-face-in-the-s7/
initial boot my T-Mobile Note5 is running around 100 processes. For comparisons sake, my Nexus 6P has around 40 running processes on boot.
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How far did you guys get with root and xposed? How much bloat and services are you able to remove/disable? And most importantly, does it have a positiv effect on the handsets performance?

I can't speak for most as I wasn't really Into modifying my s6 edge plus. But the reason for that was it was the most smooth galaxy I ever had. So smooth I never used the close all apps button. Would reset it maybe once a month. Before that I used to play with roms like a flashaholic. I've owned every samsung galaxy device back since the epic and they all needed tweaking til I had the edge plus. I am a very multitasking heavy user btw.
Later down the line I did root though. Simply for adblock and to block youtube video ads via xposed. No bloat removal. Since u can disable most eyesore bloat already without root. (Tmobile user btw. Hear Verizon has the bad end of the stick on bloat)

Shoulon said:
I can't speak for most as I wasn't really Into modifying my s6 edge plus. But the reason for that was it was the most smooth galaxy I ever had. So smooth I never used the close all apps button. Would reset it maybe once a month. Before that I used to play with roms like a flashaholic. I've owned every samsung galaxy device back since the epic and they all needed tweaking til I had the edge plus. I am a very multitasking heavy user btw.
Later down the line I did root though. Simply for adblock and to block youtube video ads via xposed. No bloat removal. Since u can disable most eyesore bloat already without root. (Tmobile user btw. Hear Verizon has the bad end of the stick on bloat)
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Helpful, thanks! So you never felt the services and bloat apps stole resources you could put to use elsewhere, as the phone comes with enough resources to handle anything you throw at it?
Owned a LG G2 and G3, and remember getting very annoyed by apps and services running that i never used.

Yep, 4gb of ram is a lot. Aside the powerful cpu, the 4gbs really is what makes a difference imo
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kimern said:
So i have a few questions for you previous Samsung owners out there. Primarily S6 owners.
Guess we all know these handsets comes weighted down in bloat and services nobody ever use.
Got a little worried when i read this: http://www.xda-developers.com/this-is-touchwiz-lag-and-it-better-not-show-its-face-in-the-s7/
How far did you guys get with root and xposed? How much bloat and services are you able to remove/disable? And most importantly, does it have a positiv effect on the handsets performance?
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I have the Note 5 and the Nexus 6p - from a performance basis - anecdotally - I can't tell much difference between the two - they are both super fast - tons of memory - and so on.
Benchmarks (for what they are worth) I get slightly better results on Antutu with the Nexus than I do with the Note 5 - but they both do exceptionally well -86.000 to 90,000.
I am running a heavily modded TW rom on the Note 5 and CM 13 on the nexus.
Both are rooted - both running xposed - Samsung Bloat has been removed by the Rom Createtor - TEKXodus HYBRID but there are obviously more things in the Note 5 *(Samsung things) than Google put into the Nexus 6p
I don't know if that answers your questions or not - I am not a developer so I can't give you a big technical breakdown on the comparisons - just my anecdotal experiences... hope it helps.
By the way - I CAN'T WAIT for the S7 Edge - really excited about this one - bloat and all! LOL In my view, NO ONE makes smartphones as good as Samsung!

I read somewhere that Samsung was aware of bloat and lessening bloat on the S7 lineup. Obviously we won't know until they arrive to our doors.

I have a Note 5 and will be moving the the S7 Edge. I have not rooted the Note 5 as I wanted Android Pay to work. However I did but the app Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) for $1.95 and you have full control to disable any apps without rooting the phone. I had moved from the N6 to the Note 5 when we switched to T-Mobile a few months ago and the Note 5 is the smoothest phone I have ever had. Plus after setting up I have never had to charge the battery mid-day, averaging over 18 hours with 4 hours screen time and 25% still remaining. I have jump on demand so I wanted to get the newest thing. Can't wait to see what the S7 Edge can do.

Package Disabler Pro without root ftw! It really does boost battery life and reduction of lag, big time. Just need to figure out what not to disable (when using "disable all bloatware") to be able to use Samsung Pay. *also untick mms cause that will prevent mms from sending/receiving.

Here is a link to the Note 5 where there is an XML file that can be loaded for Package Disabler Pro. I used this on my Note 5 as a starting point and removed a few of the items that I wanted to still be able to use. I am planning to use my current setting on my S7 Edge when I get it in a day or two.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...te-5-ultimate-performance-guide-root-t3246832

I'm using PDP and now when I back completely out of an app using the back button, I get a "all apps associated with this action have been turned off blocked or are not installed" message. I've read that this will happen with disabled apps. Can someone tell me what I disabled that would affect the back button? It doesn't matter what app I use, I get the message.
***EDIT*** Luckily when I started enabling one by one, I didn't have to go too far to find it is the Briefing package- flipboard.boxer.app * Just in case someone else has this issue.

Anyone that receive their Smartphone here tell us if it came with Facebook preinstalled with no option to uninstall?

desiregeek said:
Anyone that receive their Smartphone here tell us if it came with Facebook preinstalled with no option to uninstall?
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You can't uninstall, but you can disable. Would love to uninstall and buy back the space, but at least disabled, it does not use cycles or battery.

desiregeek said:
Anyone that receive their Smartphone here tell us if it came with Facebook preinstalled with no option to uninstall?
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On VZW Facebook did not come pre-installed

desiregeek said:
Anyone that receive their Smartphone here tell us if it came with Facebook preinstalled with no option to uninstall?
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ATT phone has Facebook installed as well as Facebook system app which needs to be enabled for Gear vr to work.

viking2.0 said:
ATT phone has Facebook installed as well as Facebook system app which needs to be enabled for Gear vr to work.
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Facebook makes them install app with no uninstall option. Even though it is disabled it manages to get your contacts and email accounts along with pictures. The disable part is useless.

Not being able to unintall Facebook is pretty bad. It should not come preinstalled to begin with. I do my Facebooking with a browser on the phone. No way I'll let the app lose.

Rooted s7 edge performance

Hi guys
I am a long time galaxy user. I have rooted every phone i had. I used s4 s5 note 4 s6 edge note 5 and now s7 edge. Rooting is the first thing i did on all these phones out of the box. So pretty much i never experienced a non rooted galaxy. All these phones are very powerful in terms of hardware. Despite of the powerful hardware all these phones never performed all smooth with the ui navigation or in terms of responsiveness . I understand with s4 s5 and note 4 having old touchwiz, but even with the redesigned touchwiz on s6 edge and note 5 ui is still not smooth. I experienced lag with scrolling and navigating the ui. By the way i removed all bloat i could on all devices. Used xposed mods that supposedly should "increase" the performance.
Last week i purchased s7 edge. As usual i rooted the second i came home.. Removed bloat and have been using all week. Guess what same experience.. Laggy ui. What i mean by lag is.. Scrolling is not smooth. I press the home button while playing a game it Takes a second To come to home screen. I end the call and it takes a good 1 second to come back to previous screen. Keyboard sometimes takes a second to show up. The animation are not smooth. All this lag is present 40% of the time here and there . This is the same type of lag i experienced with all other devices.
So. I taught of giving the s7 edge a second chance without rooting or any mods. Just stock. I have been using the phone since 2 days.. Guess what.. The phone is perfect and 100% lag free 100% of the time.
Now i m in a dilemma of what to do.. But i do really miss some root apps. Is it just me that had this problem with all the phones i used.. I m really disappointed on rooting now. Do i have to sacrifice smoother ui for rooted apps.
Please share your thoughts.

infinitiwoods12 said:
Hi guys
I am a long time galaxy user. I have rooted every phone i had. I used s4 s5 note 4 s6 edge note 5 and now s7 edge. Rooting is the first thing i did on all these phones out of the box. So pretty much i never experienced a non rooted galaxy. All these phones are very powerful in terms of hardware. Despite of the powerful hardware all these phones never performed all smooth with the ui navigation or in terms of responsiveness . I understand with s4 s5 and note 4 having old touchwiz, but even with the redesigned touchwiz on s6 edge and note 5 ui is still not smooth. I experienced lag with scrolling and navigating the ui. By the way i removed all bloat i could on all devices. Used xposed mods that supposedly should "increase" the performance.
Last week i purchased s7 edge. As usual i rooted the second i came home.. Removed bloat and have been using all week. Guess what same experience.. Laggy ui. What i mean by lag is.. Scrolling is not smooth. I press the home button while playing a game it Takes a second To come to home screen. I end the call and it takes a good 1 second to come back to previous screen. Keyboard sometimes takes a second to show up. The animation are not smooth. All this lag is present 40% of the time here and there . This is the same type of lag i experienced with all other devices.
So. I taught of giving the s7 edge a second chance without rooting or any mods. Just stock. I have been using the phone since 2 days.. Guess what.. The phone is perfect and 100% lag free 100% of the time.
Now i m in a dilemma of what to do.. But i do really miss some root apps. Is it just me that had this problem with all the phones i used.. I m really disappointed on rooting now. Do i have to sacrifice smoother ui for rooted apps.
Please share your thoughts.
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you can try to decrease lag without root by removing all the animations or at least reducing animations from 1.0 to .5....but i actually turn them completely off. This can be done in developer options. You can enable developer options by tapping on the build number 5 consecutive times in the settings

jdizzle316 said:
you can try to decrease lag without root by removing all the animations or at least reducing animations from 1.0 to .5....but i actually turn them completely off. This can be done in developer options. You can enable developer options by tapping on the build number 5 consecutive times in the settings
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please read the entire post . the phone doesn't have lag if its not rooted...

infinitiwoods12 said:
please read the entire post . the phone doesn't have lag if its not rooted...
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I've heard this complaint before with slightly dodgy root methods posted on chinese forums. Do you have the exynos or snapdragon variant?

randomhkkid said:
I've heard this complaint before with slightly dodgy root methods posted on chinese forums. Do you have the exynos or snapdragon variant?
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I have the exynos s7 edge dual sim.
Like i said.. I had this lag issue with note 5 s6 edge note 4 s5 s4

infinitiwoods12 said:
I have the exynos s7 edge dual sim.
Like i said.. I had this lag issue with note 5 s6 edge note 4 s5 s4
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Strange, I've only ever seen the problem with dodgy root methods, then again it's been a while since I had a samsung phone. Have you tried a full factory reset before rooting?

That's weird, how can it be more laggy while rooted? I just received mine today, and was thinking about rooting it straight away but I've read that tripping knox=no Samsung Pay -and maybe other things I don't know about yet-, so I will wait a little bit and read around to get myself properly informed.
BTW I come from a rooted S4, and it is butter smooth -running the GPE ROM-. As for the 1 second lag when pressing the home button, check if you have any double-press actions configured -like opening the cam, recent apps, google now, flashlight...-, if you configure a duoble-press action you get that 1 second before the one-press action is executed, as that's what the terminal waits to detect/check for a double-press.

randomhkkid said:
Strange, I've only ever seen the problem with dodgy root methods, then again it's been a while since I had a samsung phone. Have you tried a full factory reset before rooting?
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Yeah.. Thats out of the box. So obviously factory reset.

Provinomico said:
That's weird, how can it be more laggy while rooted? I just received mine today, and was thinking about rooting it straight away but I've read that tripping knox=no Samsung Pay -and maybe other things I don't know about yet-, so I will wait a little bit and read around to get myself properly informed.
BTW I come from a rooted S4, and it is butter smooth -running the GPE ROM-. As for the 1 second lag when pressing the home button, check if you have any double-press actions configured -like opening the cam, recent apps, google now, flashlight...-, if you configure a duoble-press action you get that 1 second before the one-press action is executed, as that's what the terminal waits to detect/check for a double-press.
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Home button lag is only one of the many lag issues and i m aware of the double press home button issue.. But its not what i mean.. I mean actual unresponsiveness.

Don't see how just root can cause lag
One of the apps you use that requires root is probably the issue

AthiT789 said:
Don't see how just root can cause lag
One of the apps you use that requires root is probably the issue
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Sounds logical..
So u guys are not having issues like i do.. Then.

infinitiwoods12 said:
Yeah.. Thats out of the box. So obviously factory reset.
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Just trying to help haha, does the root itself cause the lag? Maybe it's caused by the method by which you have removed the bloatware. If it isn't then I'm out of ideas, perhaps try an alternate root method.

Install echoerom,

No lag here when i was on stock rom rooted. Now im on echorom and its flys
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Root doesn't have anything to do with lag. If you use the stock ROM with just root access and some root apps it should perform exactly the same as an unrooted phone, unless the root apps you use misbehaving.
That being said, this is the first phone I don't feel the need to root it. I thought about it many times and I once wanted to just do it, but as I downloaded the necessary stuff I realised I don't need it. Package disabler pro lets me disable apps I don't use and block this let's me remove ads. Not quite as efficient as adaway but efficient enough to not be bothered too much with ads.

lvnatic said:
Root doesn't have anything to do with lag. If you use the stock ROM with just root access and some root apps it should perform exactly the same as an unrooted phone, unless the root apps you use misbehaving.
That being said, this is the first phone I don't feel the need to root it. I thought about it many times and I once wanted to just do it, but as I downloaded the necessary stuff I realised I don't need it. Package disabler pro lets me disable apps I don't use and block this let's me remove ads. Not quite as efficient as adaway but efficient enough to not be bothered too much with ads.
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randomhkkid said:
Just trying to help haha, does the root itself cause the lag? Maybe it's caused by the method by which you have removed the bloatware. If it isn't then I'm out of ideas, perhaps try an alternate root method.
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The root method i tried is th twrp and flash supersu. The root apps i use are..
BBS
XPOSED
Wanam
Xstatusbar
Xtouchwiz
Youtubeadaway
Minminad
XPRIVACY
TITANIUMBACKUP
GREENIFY
IFONT
LUCKY PATCHER
Preety much all are popular apps

infinitiwoods12 said:
The root method i tried is th twrp and flash supersu. The root apps i use are..
BBS
XPOSED
Wanam
Xstatusbar
Xtouchwiz
Youtubeadaway
Minminad
XPRIVACY
TITANIUMBACKUP
GREENIFY
IFONT
LUCKY PATCHER
Preety much all are popular apps
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So factory reset and root. Check for any lag if none occurs then install some of the root apps, if lag still doesn't occur rinse and repeat. Tedious but just because apps are popular does not mean they won't occasionally play up on new hardware.

randomhkkid said:
So factory reset and root. Check for any lag if none occurs then install some of the root apps, if lag still doesn't occur rinse and repeat. Tedious but just because apps are popular does not mean they won't occasionally play up on new hardware.
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Alright bro thanks.. For the reply.. Now that it has been 3 days.. I will now just root and install nothing relating to root and test the performance

infinitiwoods12 said:
Alright bro thanks.. For the reply.. Now that it has been 3 days.. I will now just root and install nothing relating to root and test the performance
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How about trying the Chainfire Auto-CF method, instead of the TWRP? Maybe that would give a cleaner root

It'll definitely be one of those apps or mods. Root itself won't affect performance at all.

Who is really missing Rooting and Roming?

I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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To be honest bro, I have the s7 edge at home for Verizon & I use the Nexus 6p as my daily. It's just how smooth and fast this phone is, touchwiz laggs like crazy compared to my Nexus 6p on beans rom, also I'm running my rooted apps like servicely and I get better battery life. If the s7 edge had root and unlocked bootloader no doubt it would whoop the Nexus 6p, but currently it just doesn't man.

Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.

obstinate1 said:
Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.
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Your kidding right?
Alpha release, if you believe that you don't understand alpha, beta, and shipping releases. This is obviously a shipping release. Very few bugs.
I've never had anice emulator run games as well as a flagship. Root is/was useful when companies couldn't put their bloatware on the phones without causing all kinds of havoc on the system. Now between cutting a bunch of bloat and increasing the specs the flagship store run super well.
I'm really not sure why you would say it's an alpha release, maybe you have a bad device and should return it.
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I miss root a lot, as well as tinkering around. I imagine if root doesn't happen in the next month or two I may be tempted to sell S7E. I am not loyal to any cell until it's really rootable. Options are everything.
Have their been any announcements on any teams or members working on root, or is this something people don't want to say in the event they are unsuccessful?

I'm rather enjoying using Samsung Pay at the moment. Can't say I'd want to lose that by messing with things.

Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!

cpufrost said:
Then, those who like to play around, increase instability, and decrease system security can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Fixed it for you. If we're going to post negotiate about one side, might add well be honest and post them about both.
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cpufrost said:
Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Minus the 3Mint (never heard of it), I miss all of the above, in addition to Viper4Android. Man. The stock equalizer is aight, but I can't get half the power that I did out of Viper. And I never realized how many of my apps and pages had ads until I didn't have AdAway/root. I've developed, so I realize you have to make money, but most ads are most of the time inherently dangerous.

OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.

geoff5093 said:
OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.
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Dead on. I wasted a few years on the nexus program. It's fun but very tedious. Now I just enjoy my games and use my device. The fiancé much enjoys me not up late at night resetting things up due to a bad flash, bug, etc.
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Bxrider117 said:
I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet using XDA-Developers mobile app
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I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.

jackscagnetti said:
I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.
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Sounds like you are actually agreeing with him...
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That is what I mean. With rooting phones it becomes slightly tedious.
My wife has an iPhone and I admired how that phone just works with very few hiccups. I don't believe any phone is perfect, but I like Android better and I feel this phone is close to being perfect with a few quirks.
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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.

mugsy77 said:
The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.
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I'm the same. Working ad-blocker is a big deal for me. Among other things. May end up buying it out and selling it on swappa.

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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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But if you use the Samsung browser you CAN use AD blocker without root, as it supports it as an add in. Google it.
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Foxfi
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S7 Edge Questions

Hey all,
It's been a while since I left the Samsung flock and went back to Sony but this years new Xperia Line just isn't doing it for me and the S7 Edge has really grabbed me. I'm getting it in a few weeks and the amount of info to take on is staggering. I have figured out that the UK model is a differnet chip but similar enough in performance.
I didn't bother rooting my Xperias as it broke the camera, but coming back to Samsung I'm not sure I can deal with Touchwiz again. I rooted my S2 and S3 in almost no time and installed stock or Cyanogen most of the time. My recollections of touchwiz are not great, and Sony ran pretty close to Stock/Vanilla.
So my questions:
Is touchwiz any better now?
Do I need touchwiz for the edge functionality?
Does rooting/rom installing still cause the counter (I forget it's name) to go up? Or have Sammy finally got rid of that. I don't want to lose my warrenty in a matter of days lol
Any other roms have edge functionality
Are Sammy faster with updates these days? I used to go mad waiting for them to catch up!
Sorry for the list of noob questions but it's been a while and I was getting lost in all the threads!

You do not need TouchWiz to use Edge functions. I use Nova launcher and it's working perfectly.

If you like to flash with ODIN, then you have every week an update to flash.
Updates are faster and it has been this way for 3 months now

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If you like to flash with ODIN, then you have every week an update to flash.
Updates are faster and it has been this way for 3 months now
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Wow that's good to hear, they seemed to lag behind a lot in the old days of my s2/s3
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You do not need TouchWiz to use Edge functions. I use Nova launcher and it's working perfectly.
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Brilliant!

Rooting will almost certainly invalidate any warranty. You will also not be able to use samsung pay or nfc.
Touch whizz is not as bad as some folks let on about. It's usually persistent rooters that like nothing more than to play with phone settings all day, every day. Call them obsessives if you want .
Besides, ' ... a few weeks' as you put it is a lifetime in mobile phone terms. There will be an influx of new models by then and the S7 (and other current phones) will be museum pieces : -)

touch wiz has improved a lot from a while back. lag factor isn't really a issue these days. not saying it won't ever lag, any phone can even a iphone. but as far as edge functions u will need a touch wiz based rom if you are rooting i would think because it is part of touchwiz. 3rd party launchers will help u if u really don't want to look at touch wiz but it still needs to be there if that makes sense
as far as updates it isn't all that bad. i know on my note 5 i got mm on my sprint version before other carriers. so that has something to do with it too

This is my first Galaxy since the S2 and IMO Touchwiz is alot better than the iterations that I seen on previous friend's phones.
That said if you do take the plunge and end up not being satisfied with TW I recommend downloading the Good Lock app in the Galaxy store. Pretty much gets rid of TW and moves towards a clean android stock take on the notification drawer.

Good to hear, I recall touchwiz being a laggy mess and so far from the comfort of cyanogen etc.
Thanks all!
Think I won't root, but I might strip out some of the bloatware etc.

Shadey1 said:
Good to hear, I recall touchwiz being a laggy mess and so far from the comfort of cyanogen etc.
Thanks all!
Think I won't root, but I might strip out some of the bloatware etc.
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No point. Few if any are resource hoggers. Better make sure you only have apps like Facebook active when you are actually using them. They, unlike most bloatware, really can have an impact on battery.