I'm just about to buy a new flagship,of course my options are the G5 S7 and HTC10, each has its specific advantages, I like G5 features as modularity dual cameras IR blaster, I'm not concerned on metal glass finish since I put my phone always in some dumb-proof case coz I use to drop or put it where shouldn't be, that criteria its why looks like g5 s7 an htc10 are almost in a tie, few differentiator are htc10 front camera with ois and integrated dac cleanable Android, s7 wireless charging and small size, Knox .
I don't care on dac, slightly better camera or wireless charging are things I can live without .
But repairability , its something I really appreciate since I'm not strange on requiring to switch screens batteries or plugs even full body exchange, here the G5 shines also the IR blaster its useful for me coz I use to miss the remotes .
So I almost decided to go on an G5. But.....
Something I don't consider trivial its bloatware, while companies as ASUS allow full uninstall of 3rd party apps and most Asus apps while keeps few forks on stock Android apps , htc10 also seems its much better providing if one want so the closest to stick nexus-like experience , that's really great .
But this usually can be achieved on other phones thru little tricks, I want to know how much bloat left on the LG G5 after basic uninstall/cleanup , and what you can do on the rest (uninstall via root tools , frozen ir just replace with apps like Nova Launcher ).
What the state of the bloat nation on the G5?
Thanks in advance.
I just got myself a G5. I was worried about bloatware too but now looking at it, its really not that bad. There are about 3 useless apps (that I used Nova launcher to hide) but some of the apps are actually really cool. For example you can't uninstall a certain app called the quickremote, but upon further inspection it was LG's app for utilizing the IR sensor. It has so many codes at your disposal. Super useful. I'm not really the type who takes pictures on my phone either but the great cameras have actually tempted me to quite a few times now. The modules I haven't really got into and the battery life is actually pretty good. I recommend this phone.
I was pretty much exclusively a Nexus user (N1, N4, N5, N6) and the only reason I didn't get the 6P was because they weren't selling it through T-Mobile so I couldn't directly upgrade to it... so I feel your anxiety regarding the bloatware on other phones. It's a primary reason I don't see myself ever buying a Samsung phone!
That said, the situation on the G5 isn't that bad. The vast majority of the pre-installed stuff is actually able to just be deleted! There's a few that can't (like the Amazon app), but they don't intrude in the way things like the Lookout (I think it's called) app does. But even then, you CAN uninstall that one.
If you're worried about the bloat, you shouldn't. My issues more lie in the ways they tweaked the way Android behaves- like, when I swipe down on the notification bar, it drops all the way down to the quick settings, and you have to push it BACK UP to get to the rest of your notifications. Also: if you're on WiFi Calling, there's an omnipresent notification that can't be swiped away. Or, the Smart Home settings- I'd like for, when I'm not at home, for it to turn the WiFi off. It does this, but it sends a notification letting you know that it did. That's something that should just be invisible, but instead the thing wants to brag about it.
Anyway, I hope this was helpful. I'm really digging this phone despite it's quirks, and the bloat was only annoying in the first 10-15 minutes after starting the phone for the first time. Once I weeded it out, it's like it was never there.
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I was pretty much exclusively a Nexus user (N1, N4, N5, N6) and the only reason I didn't get the 6P was because they weren't selling it through T-Mobile so I couldn't directly upgrade to it... so I feel your anxiety regarding the bloatware on other phones. It's a primary reason I don't see myself ever buying a Samsung phone!
That said, the situation on the G5 isn't that bad. The vast majority of the pre-installed stuff is actually able to just be deleted! There's a few that can't (like the Amazon app), but they don't intrude in the way things like the Lookout (I think it's called) app does. But even then, you CAN uninstall that one.
If you're worried about the bloat, you shouldn't. My issues more lie in the ways they tweaked the way Android behaves- like, when I swipe down on the notification bar, it drops all the way down to the quick settings, and you have to push it BACK UP to get to the rest of your notifications. Also: if you're on WiFi Calling, there's an omnipresent notification that can't be swiped away. Or, the Smart Home settings- I'd like for, when I'm not at home, for it to turn the WiFi off. It does this, but it sends a notification letting you know that it did. That's something that should just be invisible, but instead the thing wants to brag about it.
Anyway, I hope this was helpful. I'm really digging this phone despite it's quirks, and the bloat was only annoying in the first 10-15 minutes after starting the phone for the first time. Once I weeded it out, it's like it was never there.
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Can you tell what those apps are on the G5? I would like to know what to disable.
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@AcostaJA you dont' want bloatware? Root your phone and delete them all!
tubi99 said:
Can you tell what those apps are on the G5? I would like to know what to disable.
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There's debloat zips threads. Read what apps they took out and disable.
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When it comes to bloat, I have updated the andr version to 7.0 v20c and no bloat..
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My AT&T LG G5 is full of bloatware. It will not let me remove it either. At least I haven't found a way to remove it. My LG G2 which I had root, was great once I cleaned up all the bloat. But this G5 has been very disappointing because of the impact of all the bloat. There is easily 6 or more programs wasting battery and cpu, but I can't get rid of them and AT&T continues to update them., making them even bigger hogs. Doesn't look like they will ever root it (H-820) either. Could be a very nice phone but the bloat ruined it for me.
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My AT&T LG G5 is full of bloatware. It will not let me remove it either. At least I haven't found a way to remove it. My LG G2 which I had root, was great once I cleaned up all the bloat. But this G5 has been very disappointing because of the impact of all the bloat. There is easily 6 or more programs wasting battery and cpu, but I can't get rid of them and AT&T continues to update them., making them even bigger hogs. Doesn't look like they will ever root it (H-820) either. Could be a very nice phone but the bloat ruined it for me.
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Disable for time being. It is annoying that these companies do this. Honestly most bloat apps they put in these phones are worthless.
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I don't know if it's well known, but I found the overall speed/performance to be a little slow. I'm talking about opening apps, and loading them, before they can be used. A simple thing I did was turn off all Moto stuff (Assist, Actions, Display). Not that the phone was bad as it's a very smooth overall device, but after turning off Moto, it really made a difference. All apps open and load much faster, and the UI seems snappier too. I know this may not be good for those who use Moto, but for me the trade off of turning it off is better than the little times I used it. Just thought I'd share in case there are people who are looking to gain a bit of speed.
Another tip is to enable developer options, and change the animations from 1x to .5x. Huge difference in opening apps, and general overall use.
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Another tip is to enable developer options, and change the animations from 1x to .5x. Huge difference in opening apps, and general overall use.
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thanks for your tips, i remove all bloatware motorola and have better battery life too
On the topic of improving performance, is there a list of bloatware/apps that are safe to freeze/remove?
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On the topic of improving performance, is there a list of bloatware/apps that are safe to freeze/remove?
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There's not really any bloat. Since the phone is not carrier locked you only get three apps not from Google. Alert, Migrate, and Moto. I guess if you really wanted you can disable the Google apps you don't use, but they are just the standard apps you would use anyway (at least I do) like Maps, Gmail, Hangouts, etc.
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There's not really any bloat. Since the phone is not carrier locked you only get three apps not from Google. Alert, Migrate, and Moto. I guess if you really wanted you can disable the Google apps you don't use, but they are just the standard apps you would use anyway (at least I do) like Maps, Gmail, Hangouts, etc.
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Verizon carries this phone. I just disabled whatever I don't use and my phone is fine.
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There's not really any bloat. Since the phone is not carrier locked you only get three apps not from Google. Alert, Migrate, and Moto. I guess if you really wanted you can disable the Google apps you don't use, but they are just the standard apps you would use anyway (at least I do) like Maps, Gmail, Hangouts, etc.
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Ah sorry, I meant more than just preinstalled apps. I meant background apps and services as well.
I use DroidWall to deny network access to everything except the stuff I need (gmail/web browser/weather widget), and looking at firewall logs I see a ton of moto and google-related services trying to connect to the network even if I don't use them. (DW groups them all into a few "app" entries, so I haven't had time to go through and find the exact culprits). Some of the google ones can be easily disabled (hangouts, drive, etc), but there's more than just those three moto apps that are trying to get network access.
For example, there seems to be some sort of service (Moto Checkin maybe?) that displays a ! warning symbol in the wifi signal meter if that service is not able to connect to some server, even if network access is working in other applications. Disabling that service would help cut down on RAM/CPU usage (even if it's only minute) and network usage (it seems to do this check every 15min or so).
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Found what is causing the exclamation mark. It's an android system process that pings google servers to determine if the phone has a connection to the internet and not just the router. I was thinking it had to do with some Moto service because Droidwall grouped "Android System" in the same app category as a bunch of useless Moto services.
This thread details a bit more about it and how to disable it (I went with method 2A): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58252752&postcount=38
Not having a service trying to ping google every few minutes should help improve battery life and a minute amount of RAM/CPU usage.
pixiebob said:
thanks for your tips, i remove all bloatware motorola and have better battery life too
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/ according to me all the motorola phones come without bloatware and by removing mentioned apps i dont think there must be significant improvements. But definitely changing animations will definitely improve your performance but not the moto apps
Is the device still have memory leak bug. My device is lagging like hell after half an hour use.
The antutu benchmark is also 16163 which is very less i think. My Android One topped upto 22000.
I wrote a post similar to this as well, is there a way we can consolidate it to just this one?
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I don't know if it's well known, but I found the overall speed/performance to be a little slow. I'm talking about opening apps, and loading them, before they can be used. A simple thing I did was turn off all Moto stuff (Assist, Actions, Display). Not that the phone was bad as it's a very smooth overall device, but after turning off Moto, it really made a difference. All apps open and load much faster, and the UI seems snappier too. I know this may not be good for those who use Moto, but for me the trade off of turning it off is better than the little times I used it. Just thought I'd share in case there are people who are looking to gain a bit of speed.
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What's the best way to do this? Go into Apps and disable, or is there a better way to "turn it off"?
Disabling apps basically stops them from ever being active, period: once disabled they don't run anymore, don't have any services run anymore, and they disappear aka become invisible in the apps tray. The only thing they still do is "hang around" meaning they take up space on the device but that's a given. With a proper root and Titanium Backup (the full purchased version) you can completely uninstall said apps but there's always a chance you'll remove something that's integral to something else, especially when you're dealing with either the Google framework stuff or on Motorola devices the Moto system underpinnings.
Best course of action: go into Settings - Apps - and Force close the app, delete all the cached data if there is any and then disable the app(s) as required on the device itself and then go from there. If there's absolutely no issues ever with the functionality of the device then sure, you can do the root/Titanium Backup/uninstall route if necessary but you're not really going to save a ton of space overall.
Most times, disabling an app is more than enough to get it out of the way and stop bothering you for whatever reason(s).
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Another tip is to enable developer options, and change the animations from 1x to .5x. Huge difference in opening apps, and general overall use.
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Thanks, that really made a difference indeed.
I regret buying this, it lags like hell no matter what you do. I feel the moto g 2nd gen runs smoother. It could be the memory leak bug on 5.0.2.
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I regret buying this, it lags like hell no matter what you do. I feel the moto g 2nd gen runs smoother. It could be the memory leak bug on 5.0.2.
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Well you have tweaked stuff since day one. I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. I'm running stock, and the only change system wise I did was change Dev options for animations. I have no complaints as I switch back and forth from this, and my Note 3, and I only notice some slowness opening apps, but no lag, stutter, or anything I would consider bad performance. Maybe try flashing stock image, factory reset, and see how it is then.
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Well you have tweaked stuff since day one. I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. I'm running stock, and the only change system wise I did was change Dev options for animations. I have no complaints as I switch back and forth from this, and my Note 3, and I only notice some slowness opening apps, but no lag, stutter, or anything I would consider bad performance. Maybe try flashing stock image, factory reset, and see how it is then.
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I have to say I agree here, I am also running Stock. I have not seen any serious lag on ths phone except slightly slower loading. And I know what lag feels like as I am the not so proud owner of a TF700 tablet....
All I have done is mod the animations likewise and disabled as much as I can that I don't use.
I run stock and only modified the animation speed and must say the phone lags much more than I anticipated.
Must be Lollipop because my parents both have the Moto G 4g (kitkat) and everytime I need to help them it feels much more fluid than my Moto e.
From loading apps and the play store to even swiftkey that seems to load so much quicker, very weird.
Just tested it yesterday because I thought I was making things up and put my dads phone and mine next to each other and the speed difference when loading apps was making me sad.
I just picked this phone up yesterday to hold me over until the next moto X, or maybe the next nexus.
came from a nexus 5 (only had it a month and well i couldn't live with its awful battery life, it was so bad maybe only 6 hours per charge and the battery was fairly new). now this phone is noticeably slower, but its really not so bad. I do think though that something in this software build for 5.0.2 is slowing it down. when i am using the phone it seems like theres plenty of free ram, but it just feels a little stuttery scrolling through things like a facebook feed. I had a moto x 2013, and a razr M before that, and am a big motorola fan, but I just cant see how this is so slow. it seems like it'd have to be faster than a razr M (which is same resolution, and 1GB ram) but it seems to me that something is really wrong here.
hopefully 5.1 comes out soon.
pixiebob said:
thanks for your tips, i remove all bloatware motorola and have better battery life too
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Can you make a few screensshot of disabled apps, please?
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Can you make a few screensshot of disabled apps, please?
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i am in CM12.1 now, this rom is more battery friendly than stock rom so i suggest you to do same.
in CM12.1 all bloatware motorola is removed
Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
Yes i am pretty happy with this phone.. No touch issues for me 10 fingers are registering nicely.but sometimes 2 or 3 times out of 100 knockcodes says wrong but taps are registering i think its my fault that i enter knockcode incorretly.
Right now i m using lg keyboard and no lag at all..
Battery is seems ok to me i m using games skype fb viber intertnet browsing all day and i got 4 hours of screenon time with brightness level 75%.
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By far the best phone I've ever purchased. Very happy with all aspects of the phone. I do no notice any missed touches or incorrect knock codes as long as I'm going at a reasonable speed. Everything works wonderfully. The camera is amazing and I am incredibly impressed with the OS. 100% satisfied here!
Me too. Best phone ever. Camera is amazing too
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No issues for me even snapiest than S6 imo. Perfect phone
Battery routinely gives me 4+ hrs sot. Great camera. Great colorful screen, probably my favorite feature.
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I unlocked bootloader and rooted installed adaway and remove some bloatware
DeadSOL said:
Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
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Absolutely zero issues. Perfect screen, touch is responsive, no heating up, no lag, camera takes gorgeous pictures.
I get occasional lag, but for all I know is it's an app (I'm a techie so I'd like to think all of my apps are legitimate but who knows).
No hardware issues, etc.
I voted "Yes" because I have some issues but those are so minor that I don't really care about them too much... It's a really great phone and I highly recommend it...
Great phone
My first post but I wanted to chime in on this thread. I have read this forum a lot since I am interested in root access. I feel like there is a vocal minority that hates the phone, primarily because of lack of root, and wanted to offer perspective from someone who's mostly a regular user.
I mostly love the phone. I previously had a Galaxy S4, and have had this for 3 weeks. There are many little things that make it overall a great piece of hardware.
- No buttons on the side. I can't tell you how much of a design improvement this. Never accidentally press anything, hold it how you want, put it in any clip-type mount, no issues. It takes about a day to get used to using the back controls and then it's joy.
- Phone feels great in your hand. It's the perfect size, shape and weight, and you can switch the on-screen navigation buttons so "back" is where I was used to it on the S4 (the right side). I never really felt comfortable holding the S4. Would often flip it out of my hand while trying to one-handed operate it.
- Beautiful big screen. The slight curve feels perfect in your pocket.
- The default launcher is actually very nice. Some nice little things like you can shove 7 across on the task bar and it will shrink the icons to fit them; good folders implementation; apps/widgets tabs. It's unintrusive and gets most stuff right.
- The IR blaster actually works.
- Mine is Verizon and annoyingly they disabled some features, but the only thing I really cared about I got back with a shortcuts (native phone number blacklist). And access Lock, vital.
- Shortcut to camera with volume-down button, nice. (And of course the camera is stunning)
- Battery life has been fantastic for me. I've gone two days on a single charge with moderate use. I don't keep the screen incredibly bright, though, this is definitely the biggest power sucker.
- No overheating issues. This was infuriating on the S4, I couldn't run Waze on a summer day without it literally shutting itself down half the time.
- And of course the whole reason I got this instead of an S6 in the first place... removable battery and my 128 gig of storage
I haven't had any touchscreen issues. I did install the OTA update which was pushed to my phone the same day I got it. (I hope I don't come to regret this w.r.t. root...)
So while I wish I could root it, the lack of root access isn't actually making my life miserable in any way. The only reason I rooted the S4 it was because of the lack of SD card write access under Kit Kat, and because Verizon pushed an update that actually broke the S4 causing random reboots which was fixable by removing Knox.
The SD card is not an issue with Lollipop. That said, once I had root access on the S4, of course I installed the Xposed Framework and played with stuff, like adding flashlight to my reboot menu (hey, this is already on the pulldown menu built into my G4!). But there is really nothing I couldn't live without.
So I'd love to be able to root this thing, but here's exactly what I am missing without root compared to the S4:
1. Full ad blocking (I can block over wifi with a proxy, so it's just an issue for cellular data)
2. Greenify that has native access to stop apps.
I have since just started using Greenify as my screen-off button and this is satisfactory (though I still see some apps like Skype that like to just resurrect themselves randomly, not much I can do here). The ad thing is not really that big a deal for me. I don't spend a ton of time reading ad-heavy web sites over cellular data, while I've certainly noticed ads a little more than I used to, it's not making me crazy. There's no dealbreaking functional issue such as I had with the S4 that makes me feel like I will cry if I never get root.
So there you have it, very happy LG G4 user.
I remember reading here on XDA a way to have adblock on cellular. I think you need to create a new APN and add a proxy to that APN I tried this on my s6 and it worked.
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I remember reading here on XDA a way to have adblock on cellular. I think you need to create a new APN and add a proxy to that APN I tried this on my s6 and it worked.
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I did find a description of a method to do this while researching the issue, but I don't think it's possible on this phone. The methods described involved options that were not available. (No proxy config, can't create new cell data profile). I looked for shortcuts that might expose hidden options but couldn't find anything relevant.
Anyone elses g4 mistake a swipe up gesture for a tap when scrolling? Ill be scrolling xda or any other app and i swipe to go farther down and the phone will mistake it for a tap and click on reply or photo or something, pretty annoying but just wondering if anyone elses g4 does this
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I have the H815 verison and besides double tap to wake sometimes needing 3-4 taps to wake up, the phone is flawless (as it should be for what I paid for it lol).
I voted no problem, but I have a small issue with double tap to wake.
It seems that occasionally the phone is locked and at the knock screen even when several Smart Unlock conditions are met (location, connected to bluetooth, etc.). If I double tap, it doesn't wake because it's still locked and expecting a knock code. This double tap wakes the phone, but doesn't always turn on the screen. The second double tap usually unlocks the phone, but occasionally it only wakes to the knock code screen. If I pause for a moment, it'll usually Smart Unlock and all is well.
I seem to have less of a problem with this if High Accuracy Location Mode is on. In GPS only mode this was happening all the time. Hopefully there will be an update to prioritize Bluetooth for Smart Unlock.
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Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
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Using it for a couple days now. Its a great phone. Am patiently waiting for Root then it'd be perfect
Wow. Thanks for the replies, people.
The poll results seem neck-and-neck right now but it's great to know that there are several people with no issues. Software issues can always be fixed so that's an upside.
Interesting how there are people that say they have no issues other than swipes not registering correctly or double tap doesn't work all the time or there is something often lagging....
Those are issues...
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Interesting how there are people that say they have no issues other than swipes not registering correctly or double tap doesn't work all the time or there is something often lagging....
Those are issues...
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It feels like a small software issue.
If you check out the horror stories in this forum, you'll see how people are really giving this phone bad press. Compared to that, a couple of taps not registering for Knock On doesn't seem so bad.
So i have a few questions for you previous Samsung owners out there. Primarily S6 owners.
Guess we all know these handsets comes weighted down in bloat and services nobody ever use.
Got a little worried when i read this: http://www.xda-developers.com/this-is-touchwiz-lag-and-it-better-not-show-its-face-in-the-s7/
initial boot my T-Mobile Note5 is running around 100 processes. For comparisons sake, my Nexus 6P has around 40 running processes on boot.
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How far did you guys get with root and xposed? How much bloat and services are you able to remove/disable? And most importantly, does it have a positiv effect on the handsets performance?
I can't speak for most as I wasn't really Into modifying my s6 edge plus. But the reason for that was it was the most smooth galaxy I ever had. So smooth I never used the close all apps button. Would reset it maybe once a month. Before that I used to play with roms like a flashaholic. I've owned every samsung galaxy device back since the epic and they all needed tweaking til I had the edge plus. I am a very multitasking heavy user btw.
Later down the line I did root though. Simply for adblock and to block youtube video ads via xposed. No bloat removal. Since u can disable most eyesore bloat already without root. (Tmobile user btw. Hear Verizon has the bad end of the stick on bloat)
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I can't speak for most as I wasn't really Into modifying my s6 edge plus. But the reason for that was it was the most smooth galaxy I ever had. So smooth I never used the close all apps button. Would reset it maybe once a month. Before that I used to play with roms like a flashaholic. I've owned every samsung galaxy device back since the epic and they all needed tweaking til I had the edge plus. I am a very multitasking heavy user btw.
Later down the line I did root though. Simply for adblock and to block youtube video ads via xposed. No bloat removal. Since u can disable most eyesore bloat already without root. (Tmobile user btw. Hear Verizon has the bad end of the stick on bloat)
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Helpful, thanks! So you never felt the services and bloat apps stole resources you could put to use elsewhere, as the phone comes with enough resources to handle anything you throw at it?
Owned a LG G2 and G3, and remember getting very annoyed by apps and services running that i never used.
Yep, 4gb of ram is a lot. Aside the powerful cpu, the 4gbs really is what makes a difference imo
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So i have a few questions for you previous Samsung owners out there. Primarily S6 owners.
Guess we all know these handsets comes weighted down in bloat and services nobody ever use.
Got a little worried when i read this: http://www.xda-developers.com/this-is-touchwiz-lag-and-it-better-not-show-its-face-in-the-s7/
How far did you guys get with root and xposed? How much bloat and services are you able to remove/disable? And most importantly, does it have a positiv effect on the handsets performance?
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I have the Note 5 and the Nexus 6p - from a performance basis - anecdotally - I can't tell much difference between the two - they are both super fast - tons of memory - and so on.
Benchmarks (for what they are worth) I get slightly better results on Antutu with the Nexus than I do with the Note 5 - but they both do exceptionally well -86.000 to 90,000.
I am running a heavily modded TW rom on the Note 5 and CM 13 on the nexus.
Both are rooted - both running xposed - Samsung Bloat has been removed by the Rom Createtor - TEKXodus HYBRID but there are obviously more things in the Note 5 *(Samsung things) than Google put into the Nexus 6p
I don't know if that answers your questions or not - I am not a developer so I can't give you a big technical breakdown on the comparisons - just my anecdotal experiences... hope it helps.
By the way - I CAN'T WAIT for the S7 Edge - really excited about this one - bloat and all! LOL In my view, NO ONE makes smartphones as good as Samsung!
I read somewhere that Samsung was aware of bloat and lessening bloat on the S7 lineup. Obviously we won't know until they arrive to our doors.
I have a Note 5 and will be moving the the S7 Edge. I have not rooted the Note 5 as I wanted Android Pay to work. However I did but the app Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) for $1.95 and you have full control to disable any apps without rooting the phone. I had moved from the N6 to the Note 5 when we switched to T-Mobile a few months ago and the Note 5 is the smoothest phone I have ever had. Plus after setting up I have never had to charge the battery mid-day, averaging over 18 hours with 4 hours screen time and 25% still remaining. I have jump on demand so I wanted to get the newest thing. Can't wait to see what the S7 Edge can do.
Package Disabler Pro without root ftw! It really does boost battery life and reduction of lag, big time. Just need to figure out what not to disable (when using "disable all bloatware") to be able to use Samsung Pay. *also untick mms cause that will prevent mms from sending/receiving.
Here is a link to the Note 5 where there is an XML file that can be loaded for Package Disabler Pro. I used this on my Note 5 as a starting point and removed a few of the items that I wanted to still be able to use. I am planning to use my current setting on my S7 Edge when I get it in a day or two.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...te-5-ultimate-performance-guide-root-t3246832
I'm using PDP and now when I back completely out of an app using the back button, I get a "all apps associated with this action have been turned off blocked or are not installed" message. I've read that this will happen with disabled apps. Can someone tell me what I disabled that would affect the back button? It doesn't matter what app I use, I get the message.
***EDIT*** Luckily when I started enabling one by one, I didn't have to go too far to find it is the Briefing package- flipboard.boxer.app * Just in case someone else has this issue.
Anyone that receive their Smartphone here tell us if it came with Facebook preinstalled with no option to uninstall?
desiregeek said:
Anyone that receive their Smartphone here tell us if it came with Facebook preinstalled with no option to uninstall?
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You can't uninstall, but you can disable. Would love to uninstall and buy back the space, but at least disabled, it does not use cycles or battery.
desiregeek said:
Anyone that receive their Smartphone here tell us if it came with Facebook preinstalled with no option to uninstall?
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On VZW Facebook did not come pre-installed
desiregeek said:
Anyone that receive their Smartphone here tell us if it came with Facebook preinstalled with no option to uninstall?
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ATT phone has Facebook installed as well as Facebook system app which needs to be enabled for Gear vr to work.
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ATT phone has Facebook installed as well as Facebook system app which needs to be enabled for Gear vr to work.
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Facebook makes them install app with no uninstall option. Even though it is disabled it manages to get your contacts and email accounts along with pictures. The disable part is useless.
Not being able to unintall Facebook is pretty bad. It should not come preinstalled to begin with. I do my Facebooking with a browser on the phone. No way I'll let the app lose.
I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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To be honest bro, I have the s7 edge at home for Verizon & I use the Nexus 6p as my daily. It's just how smooth and fast this phone is, touchwiz laggs like crazy compared to my Nexus 6p on beans rom, also I'm running my rooted apps like servicely and I get better battery life. If the s7 edge had root and unlocked bootloader no doubt it would whoop the Nexus 6p, but currently it just doesn't man.
Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.
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Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.
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Your kidding right?
Alpha release, if you believe that you don't understand alpha, beta, and shipping releases. This is obviously a shipping release. Very few bugs.
I've never had anice emulator run games as well as a flagship. Root is/was useful when companies couldn't put their bloatware on the phones without causing all kinds of havoc on the system. Now between cutting a bunch of bloat and increasing the specs the flagship store run super well.
I'm really not sure why you would say it's an alpha release, maybe you have a bad device and should return it.
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I miss root a lot, as well as tinkering around. I imagine if root doesn't happen in the next month or two I may be tempted to sell S7E. I am not loyal to any cell until it's really rootable. Options are everything.
Have their been any announcements on any teams or members working on root, or is this something people don't want to say in the event they are unsuccessful?
I'm rather enjoying using Samsung Pay at the moment. Can't say I'd want to lose that by messing with things.
Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
cpufrost said:
Then, those who like to play around, increase instability, and decrease system security can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Fixed it for you. If we're going to post negotiate about one side, might add well be honest and post them about both.
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cpufrost said:
Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Minus the 3Mint (never heard of it), I miss all of the above, in addition to Viper4Android. Man. The stock equalizer is aight, but I can't get half the power that I did out of Viper. And I never realized how many of my apps and pages had ads until I didn't have AdAway/root. I've developed, so I realize you have to make money, but most ads are most of the time inherently dangerous.
OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.
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OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.
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Dead on. I wasted a few years on the nexus program. It's fun but very tedious. Now I just enjoy my games and use my device. The fiancé much enjoys me not up late at night resetting things up due to a bad flash, bug, etc.
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I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.
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I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.
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Sounds like you are actually agreeing with him...
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That is what I mean. With rooting phones it becomes slightly tedious.
My wife has an iPhone and I admired how that phone just works with very few hiccups. I don't believe any phone is perfect, but I like Android better and I feel this phone is close to being perfect with a few quirks.
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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.
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The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.
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I'm the same. Working ad-blocker is a big deal for me. Among other things. May end up buying it out and selling it on swappa.
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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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But if you use the Samsung browser you CAN use AD blocker without root, as it supports it as an add in. Google it.
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Foxfi
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So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
If you're a Nexus fan, get the Nexus 6P. It's just as good or maybe even better depending on your likes.
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Simone said:
If you're a Nexus fan, get the Nexus 6P. It's just as good or maybe even better depending on your likes.
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That phone is so old now though by todays standards.
chugger93 said:
That phone is so old now though by todays standards.
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Still better than s7 )
Diaze said:
Still better than s7 )
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Except that it isn't! I have both and I much prefer my S7E, which is why it is my primary device and my N6P my backup.
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Dave
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So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
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New to the S7 edge myself. From what I've seen so far there's no rooting or anything unless you're on the non-US version. Knox is apparently a sort of security system that is part of the reason (maybe the whole reason?) you can't root it. Touchwiz does suck, the phone was super cluttered and really ugly compared to iOS which I've just moved from. I was thinking hard about taking the phone back after the first hour or so using it but installing Nova Launcher Prime fixed that for me. Disabling the bloat as well made it a great experience. It's a good little phone, the battery life is incredible (compared to my 6s Plus). No problem getting through 2 days before having to charge it. Zippy as well, very fast phone.
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New to the S7 edge myself. From what I've seen so far there's no rooting or anything unless you're on the non-US version. Knox is apparently a sort of security system that is part of the reason (maybe the whole reason?) you can't root it. Touchwiz does suck, the phone was super cluttered and really ugly compared to iOS which I've just moved from. I was thinking hard about taking the phone back after the first hour or so using it but installing Nova Launcher Prime fixed that for me. Disabling the bloat as well made it a great experience. It's a good little phone, the battery life is incredible (compared to my 6s Plus). No problem getting through 2 days before having to charge it. Zippy as well, very fast phone.
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Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
iTouch24 said:
Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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It ran fast out of the box for me, it may come down to what we have installed? I used EZ Disabler (paid version) to disable the bloatware. The only game I have is Shadow Era and it doesn't do anything in the background so I can't speak to games and background activity. The only things I have running in the background are things I'd expect (FB, Whatsapp, Telegram, email, etc.) (And I am using the American AT&T S7 edge so there's no rooting, custom ROM stuff or any of that since it's currently impossible, just stock.)
Touchwiz isn't that crappy anymore - pretty smooth actually.
And battery life is insane on the Exynos variant i can get 2-3 days of normal usage without charging (u won't get this with any SD820 phone ^^)
If you don't care about battery life that much and rather want the maximum 3D performance you would probably be better off with a SD820 phone (maybe the next nexus)
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It ran fast out of the box for me, it may come down to what we have installed? I used EZ Disabler (paid version) to disable the bloatware. The only game I have is Shadow Era and it doesn't do anything in the background so I can't speak to games and background activity. The only things I have running in the background are things I'd expect (FB, Whatsapp, Telegram, email, etc.) (And I am using the American AT&T S7 edge so there's no rooting, custom ROM stuff or any of that since it's currently impossible, just stock.)
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I have same device as u. AT&T edge.
I noticed in touchwiz if u go to appdrawer, u can edit and turn off bloatware. We can't uninstall without root but seems we can turn off.
Where r u going in setting to prevent apps from running in background.
I went through notifications n shut allot off.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
iTouch24 said:
Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Clean Master does nothing or worse for your battery. It will clean up some files but I would suggest SD Maid for that matter.
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chugger93 said:
So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
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Be aware that if you purchase from a US provider (including Sprint and T-Mobile) that you will not be able to root your S7. The bootloader is locked and the vulnerability hasn't been found yet.
Knox is a security app on Samsung phones that will keep secure whatever apps or data are in the Knox vault. It is for people who need higher security. Knox will not work if the phone has been rooted... even if the phone is later unrooted. Rooting trips a flag that will disable Knox and Samsung Pay.
iTouch24 said:
I have same device as u. AT&T edge.
I noticed in touchwiz if u go to appdrawer, u can edit and turn off bloatware. We can't uninstall without root but seems we can turn off.
Where r u going in setting to prevent apps from running in background.
I went through notifications n shut allot off.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Yeah, you can do it that way or use a debloat program which allows you to disable things that touchwiz won't.
I use an app called Greenify (the donation package). It gives you a list of all apps that run in the background (and even system services if you're brave enough to go through them all) and it lets you force them to stop running in the background and only run when you are actually using them on screen. For example say you use Snapchat. It's always running in the background whether you've opened it or not, checking for messages. Greenify can force it to not do that unless you physically open it. The only things I let run in the background are messaging apps I rely on (SMS, Whatsapp, Telegram, Inbox, etc.) and everything else - I let greenify force to hibernate.