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Hey guys,
With All this Warranty talk, the people who unlocked your bootloader. Do you regret it? Was the warranty worth sacrificing for custom roms? I want to unlock it but at the same time I keep getting these paranoid thoughts that I'm gonna need the warranty later on. WTF. Any help?
You can install custom roms without unlock bootloader. I have evil nxsense rom installed in my N1 without unlock my bootloader.
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HTC honors the warranty even with the bootloader unlocked; I can't say that I've needed to make a claim myself, but that's the consensus from majority of members on this board. So, my advice is just go for it.
I had the same doubts as you, but you won't regret it
habs25 said:
HTC honors the warranty even with the bootloader unlocked; I can't say that I've needed to make a claim myself, but that's the consensus from majority of members on this board. So, my advice is just go for it.
I had the same doubts as you, but you won't regret it
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Agree with this. Although I've never had to make a claim either.
I unlocked mine as soon as I pulled it from the box back in January 2010. I have had no regrets about it at all. I have never needed warranty service, though I wouldn't hesitate to call HTC for a hardware related issue. If something went horribly wrong with a ROM flash or a radio upgrade, that would be my own fault and I would look into buying a new phone. But I wouldn't try to BS HTC to make them pay for my screw-up.
habs25 said:
HTC honors the warranty even with the bootloader unlocked; I can't say that I've needed to make a claim myself, but that's the consensus from majority of members on this board. So, my advice is just go for it.
I had the same doubts as you, but you won't regret it
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I have made two claims with my unlocked bootloader. Each has been hassle free and quick. Oh, and cost me nothing.
First, a few months ago for dust under the screen, repaired and sent back in 4 days.
Second, which was last week for power button issues. They received, repaired, and shipped back in one day. I got it back the next.
HTC is quietly brilliant.
thanks guys! i may actually unlock the baseband than.
is unlocking the baseband more beneficial than just doing a root without unlocking?
btw, so you guys think its better to safer to send it in and get it repaired if you have a unlocked baseband than the riskier "swap" (when they send u a new one and you send your old one in) method?
Wisefire said:
I have made two claims with my unlocked bootloader. Each has been hassle free and quick. Oh, and cost me nothing.
First, a few months ago for dust under the screen, repaired and sent back in 4 days.
Second, which was last week for power button issues. They received, repaired, and shipped back in one day. I got it back the next.
HTC is quietly brilliant.
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hey, did they send it back to you with a locked bootloader?
First time they relocked it.
Second time, they left it unlocked.
ROOT is fine
bambamboom said:
thanks guys! i may actually unlock the baseband than.
is unlocking the baseband more beneficial than just doing a root without unlocking?
btw, so you guys think its better to safer to send it in and get it repaired if you have a unlocked baseband than the riskier "swap" (when they send u a new one and you send your old one in) method?
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I don't see any point in unlocking boot loader while you can root the phone and do whatever you want. the only thing you can't directly do is to flash a partition usion bootloader commands but you still can do it if you use "flash_img" command in ClockworkMod Recovery (on the adb shell). I install different roms and I am on CM7 now.
I unlocked mine without wanting to. I flashed modaco rom and it just unlocked my boot loader. but there is supposed to be a way of locking it again. it's somewhere on xda...
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Yeah, I like posters that don't know what they post.
1) No ROM can unlock the bootloader. User has to do it and the system has to ask for permission.
2) Once unlocked, it can't be locked, only by HTC.
To the OP: I've unlocked my bootloader long before "non-unlocking" way has been found. Never cared for it since, didn't need the warranty, and it's going to expire soon anyway.
Yes mine unlocked, and I have no reason to regret it, as my phone is a freak that can be locked again.
Worth doing in my opinion, and even if I couldn't lock it again, I still wouldn't regret it.
bohlool said:
I don't see any point in unlocking boot loader while you can root the phone and do whatever you want. the only thing you can't directly do is to flash a partition usion bootloader commands but you still can do it if you use "flash_img" command in ClockworkMod Recovery (on the adb shell).
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Mine is locked, but there are 2 goods reasons to unlock the bootloader:
1. Once the bootloader is unlocked, you always have a rooted phone. The next ota won't relock it.
2. You have more options to fix a potentially bricked phone.
I'm thinking about doing it for these reasons, plus it seems like HTC still honour the warranty.
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I unlocked my bootloader because the warranty was gone anyway. Put the nexus into the washing mashine . Somehow it survived (Bluetooth, radio and camera gone). It actually was pretty tough. after about 10minutes in the mashine (60°C) the screen was still having fun inside the mashine.
andynx1 said:
Mine is locked, but there are 2 goods reasons to unlock the bootloader:
1. Once the bootloader is unlocked, you always have a rooted phone. The next ota won't relock it.
2. You have more options to fix a potentially bricked phone.
I'm thinking about doing it for these reasons, plus it seems like HTC still honour the warranty.
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1. Well, if you wanna update ota, you don't have reason to root your phone in the first place.
2. what more options exactly you have? simple, do not mess with HBOOT and Recovery partitions, and ur safe.
My opinion, use oneclickroot and don't risk it, cause HTC support behave deferentially now!
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1. Well, if you wanna update ota, you don't have reason to root your phone in the first place.
2. what more options exactly you have? simple, do not mess with HBOOT and Recovery partitions, and ur safe.
My opinion, use oneclickroot and don't risk it, cause HTC support behave deferentially now!
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Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.
Read my previous post, HTC has the best customer support & service I have ever received.
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Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.
Read my previous post, HTC has the best customer support & service I have ever received.
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No comment!
Hi all
My XPlay is unlocked and i have not rooted it or used a custom rom.
What are the good and bad points if i unlock the bootloader?
I have no intention of using a custom rom(just wish they would release official 2.3.4 tho) dont care to root it either tbh(tho that could change )
Is it worth unlocking the bootloader?
Oh and have SE confirmed a date for ota of 2.3.4 yet?
Thanks
Jay
I would not say its worth unlocking it...
Cons:
Can't update (As fare as I know)
Warranty Void
Pros:
More freedom to do with your phone (Android offers enough anyway)
Thanks Craig.
Does the Bootloader have to be unlocked to root the phone?
No you don't need to that's all I have done to mine is sim unlock aswell as the bootloader ota and pc companion updater all works fine.
jutley said:
No you don't need to that's all I have done to mine is sim unlock aswell as the bootloader ota and pc companion updater all works fine.
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What did you use to root your xplay jutley? and does invalidate warranty?
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What did you use to root your xplay jutley? and does invalidate warranty?
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Rooting won't void your warranty and you can root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Follow the guide and it will be safe, Also you don't need an unlocked boot loader for that root either, to be honest if you don't plan on using another ROM then don't unlock the boot loader, its pretty risky as the xperia play auto updates OTA.
TheCraig said:
Rooting won't void your warranty and you can root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Follow the guide and it will be safe, Also you don't need an unlocked boot loader for that root either, to be honest if you don't plan on using another ROM then don't unlock the boot loader, its pretty risky as the xperia play auto updates OTA.
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Yep did this earlier and works great. Took me all of 5 minutes.
Root does void your warranty, because it's a software modification in the operative system that Sony doesn't support.
However, you people should learn to understand that your warranty and your technical service is XDA.
Logseman said:
Root does void your warranty, because it's a software modification in the operative system that Sony doesn't support.
However, you people should learn to understand that your warranty and your technical service is XDA.
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+1 but it depends how the warranty is worded, many people with the DHD got there rooted phone fixed because the warranty did'nt specifically mention software modifications
My brother said he was never going to root his phone, but then I showed him all the things he could do with it and now he can't believe he ever felt that way. I think if you looked into the possibilities a little more, you might change your mind too.
Unlocking the bootloader is another thing entirely. If you're satisfied with the stock firmware, then there's no reason to do it.
Thanks guys i might root when i feel brave enough
The pro & cons of unlocking the bootloader:
Pro: Install customs ROMS with custom kernels (basically that's it)
Cons: - Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
If someone can add some Pro's to an unlock bootloader please do it..
Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.
I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone.
Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.
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I spoke to Motorola & my carrier services, also read the warning details before the unlock process begins.
I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone
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Same here..(I learned all that after the fact)
I'd add this to Pro:
If you're stuck on Rogers 49003 ICS because you flashed the ROM trying to get root, your best option to get anything above 4.0.4 is to unlock bootloader?
Perhaps a CWM install will be possible for those with unlocked bootloaders when updates come.
It seems that in one form or another an unlocked bootloader means being able to push all the new files in doesn't it? Is there any limitation on this phone, for example flashing a new modem or kernel?
Cons one by one:
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- Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
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True, but obvious.
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- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
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Nope. Even if you were not to receive OTA, which by the way is not true as I've observed on my Photon Q, you can still freely flash the new firmwares yourself ^^
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- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
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Depends on ones point of view. Usually a CM port means you get newer Android sooner.
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- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
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Why it wouldn't? Unlocking BLs has no impact on upgrade schedule.
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- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
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No. That's solely on Moto / Google decision. They don't have to update it at all. (See Droid 3, Milestone 3, Motorola XT720 etc.)
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- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
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Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
itzik_man said:
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
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You can sue Moto for breaking laws. They can't forbid you doing that (don't know honestly how is that in US / Canada, but I doubt that seeing how it works with computer games).
So please, while for normal user not willing to flash custom ROMs it's true that they should not unlock the bootloader, don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
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Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...
At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
itzik_man said:
Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...
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Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.
I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.
We should be promoting "unlock the world"
This is not to imply everything should be free, however if I own something it should be mine in every regard, that includes breaking it.
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@skrilax thanks for you work on the a500.
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I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.
Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.
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To end my part in this discussion: The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !
Darbness said:
I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.
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Have you tried out lte tethering? It doesn't work on Rogers.
To epinter -
I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.http://www.linuxmobile
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I did not notice your response at first, now to the point -
Without any disrespect to the work, time & effort invested, the main point is being ignored by the developers: All comments I got on this OP didn't touched the number one reason of my suggestion to not unlock the bootloader: There in not really enough of a variety of development options today to justification the bootloader unlocked of the xt925.
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Cons one by one:
Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
Tombs1234 said:
At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?
itzik_man said:
The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !
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It's your decision whether to unlock the bootloader or not. I'm just saying (for other users) that many of the cons you wrote were absolutely incorrect.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
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I believe there is something stored in the pds partition. Or at least it is that way on Droid RAZR XT912 and you had to fix it to remove the remaining traces. Flashing FXZ is also a way how to get a clean stock firmware, but pds partition is not affected that way.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?
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I think he meant "stock firmware" instead of "stock bootloader"
So if that were the case on this phone, I wonder if doing a dd backup of the pds partition before rooting at ICS, for restoring after downgrade, would be the way to go. Assuming it restores properly, it would be a good thing to add to the sticky thread about rooting. I did a dd of all my partitions except for /data last night, but I'm already rooted.
hmm... I'm wondering if there's something inaccessable in /system or even the sdcard since they get mounted with fuse. My only other Android phone was the Galaxy S II which was pretty straightforward and dead simple to root and unroot. I was surprised to see the fuse module being used to mount anything when I got this one.
The original topic is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857558
I don't know if there was a proper fix developed (haven't checked) on the RAZR.
HI @all,
now that we have a FW for the device - is root possible?
All known root methods are not working.
BR
UserX10
Edit:
Solved -> Thanks you DooMLoRD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-...58xx-cwm-based-recovery-6-0-4-7-root-t2890231
Delete.
Jeez.
People haven't even got their hands on the phone yet...
Be patient
Anyone wanna try Framaroot?
http://framaroot.net/index.html
framaroot does not work ...
Ok because I saw it posted on this blog and thought it would work. Strange!
plisk3n said:
Ok because I saw it posted on this blog and thought it would work. Strange!
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Well, it says "tested on device" and is from 9/4, before the device was even unavailable. I'd be careful that apk isn't something more.
CollinsJ said:
Well, it says "tested on device" and is from 9/4, before the device was even unavailable. I'd be careful that apk isn't something more.
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Yeah that's also the reason why I decided not to download it, I'll just wait till someone @ XDA finds a way to root the device. It's not like we'll die because our device isn't rooted for x weeks/months.
Weeks/months?! I would die! It's been a day and the amount of things I can't do is driving me nuts!
If you have an unlocked boot loader see what I say at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55709585. If you don't I think you'll be waiting for a while - someone needs to find an exploit and write the app/code needed to exploit it. This has become increasingly hard as Android has become more secure - before Towelroot AFAIK the Z1/Z2 was not rootable for a long time. You'd probably be waiting a similar length of time for the next big root exploit.
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If you have an unlocked boot loader see what I say at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55709585. If you don't I think you'll be waiting for a while - someone needs to find an exploit and write the app/code needed to exploit it. This has become increasingly hard as Android has become more secure - before Towelroot AFAIK the Z1/Z2 was not rootable for a long time. You'd probably be waiting a similar length of time for the next big root exploit.
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Would it not be helpful to contact Sony themselves? They're increasingly developer friendly, these days. Maybe they'd be willing to offer pointers to root app developers?
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Would it not be helpful to contact Sony themselves? They're increasingly developer friendly, these days. Maybe they'd be willing to offer pointers to root app developers?
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Well I know people at Sony and long story short: if you want root unlock the boot loader. Its as simple as that. You have to understand that while a root exploit looks nice to tinkerers its also a serious security issue which must be fixed - that is why many root solutions also patch the exploit they use after using it.
Does unlocking the bootloader require wiping the phone? I know this is required on the nexus phones. If it requires wipe then its the very first thing I'm doing once I get the phone out of the box.
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tilal6991 said:
Well I know people at Sony and long story short: if you want root unlock the boot loader. Its as simple as that. You have to understand that while a root exploit looks nice to tinkerers its also a serious security issue which must be fixed - that is why many root solutions also patch the exploit they use after using it.
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I'm aware of this ... but on the one hand being one of the few if only manufacturers to provide official unlocking for the bootloaders (with the obvious intention of spurring development etc), but on the other actively closing non-simple (i.e. ones requiring a dedicated program) root 'exploits' would seem a little at odds. Is it really that black and white? You'd think it might be in their interests to provide an official complex / secure rooting method.
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Does unlocking the bootloader require wiping the phone? I know this is required on the nexus phones. If it requires wipe then its the very first thing I'm doing once I get the phone out of the box.
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Yes. It will wipe everything AFAIK - double check with the website.
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I'm aware of this ... but on the one hand being one of the few if only manufacturers to provide official unlocking for the bootloaders (with the obvious intention of spurring development etc), but on the other actively closing non-simple (i.e. ones requiring a dedicated program) root 'exploits' would seem a little at odds. Is it really that black and white? You'd think it might be in their interests to provide an official complex / secure rooting method.
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Your statements contradict themselves. Rooting without unlocking the bootloader needs a security flaw. How can any method which leaves a security hole be secure?
Bootloader unlocking gets around this by letting you control the boot partition of the device so you can disable the "security barrier" that android provides. This is a choice you are explicitly making which is why it is the only "secure" way to root.
Does towelroot work?
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Does towelroot work?
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Unfortunately Towelroot does not work.
I've read some people saying that unlocking the bootloader causes you to lose your DRM keys which apparently would affect software/ camera issues?
Can anyone verify this?
tacocats said:
I've read some people saying that unlocking the bootloader causes you to lose your DRM keys which apparently would affect software/ camera issues?
Can anyone verify this?
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This is very true. On the z1c I neglected to back up the TA partition. And apparently lost native mirror cast and some camera features when I rolled the device back to stock.
Back up your TA partition before unlocking BL.
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This is very true. On the z1c I neglected to back up the TA partition. And apparently lost native mirror cast and some camera features when I rolled the device back to stock.
Back up your TA partition before unlocking BL.
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Any idea how this could be done?
Okay we have a Bounty thread... Leave that for just plain Bounty pledges..
In here feel free to talk about BootLoader discusions, Root discussions..
Nice thread. Would be nice to discuss about Moto Maxx root as well. Since it has unlockable bootloader, I believe root is pretty doable, but I have no idea how to, since there's no custom recovery yet.
Nice thread.... looking forward
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some one knows how can we help to find a exploit or something that will make our Turbo able to get root??
When lollipop gets released for the Turbo, I'm going to have a tough decision. I really want that sweet new lollipop, but I also know that the chances of rooting it will go down significantly. So, the question is, should we stay on KitKat in hopes of getting root? It's going to be really hard to resist 5.0. And since the 2014 Moto X just got it, I think we're not far behind.
There's a vulnerability in KitKat, we just have to figure out how to exploit it. CVE-2014-7911. More info can be found at http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Nov/51.
Your chances of getting root with LP and a locked bootloader depend on an exploit which has yet to be found and that may be some time and on some phones has never happened on previous operating systems. You would be much better off if the phone was released for unrestricted world wide sales but being CDMA and a Verizon exclusive is guaranteed to prevent the large scale adoption that would have made it more attractive to developers. Realistically no one here knows better than you whether root is more important than getting LP are for you. For my purposes I consider root a must have while having no issues with kk which I like just fine which would make it an easy choice.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
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Maybe. With Qualcomm chips, it's possible to make reverting to an older version result in a hard brick. With Big Red's knowledge of what they can do, unfortunately, they might implement this "feature". Plus, a vulnerability has already been found. We just need to figure out how to exploit it.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
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At least with my Motorola RAZR M, every time they had a big version upgrade they also upgraded the security partition (which would be incompatible with prior firmwares), making it impossible to downgrade without an unlocked bootloader.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
I think I have an idea on how to obtain a bootloader unlock. It most likely will not work, though, as I highly doubt it would be this stupid simple. As I do not yet have a Turbo, could someone send me the result of "fastboot oem get_unlock_data"? PM it to me and I'll test my theory. I'll also need one from some other (model doesn't matter) Motorola device, too, that actually is eligible for official bootloader unlocking.
r3pwn said:
I think I have an idea on how to obtain a bootloader unlock. It most likely will not work, though, as I highly doubt it would be this stupid simple. As I do not yet have a Turbo, could someone send me the result of "fastboot oem get_unlock_data"? PM it to me and I'll test my theory. I'll also need one from some other (model doesn't matter) Motorola device, too, that actually is eligible for official bootloader unlocking.
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I have both a Droid Turbo and a Motorola device that is eligible for bootloader unlocking, but I don't know if I can trust to give my oem unlock data if that is in any kind "dangerous" for me or my guarantee. Can you just give me a hint and I check it out?
josebama said:
I have both a Droid Turbo and a Motorola device that is eligible for bootloader unlocking, but I don't know if I can trust to give my oem unlock data if that is in any kind "dangerous" for me or my guarantee. Can you just give me a hint and I check it out?
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Yeah, sure. I'll send I sent you a PM.
Do you still need this? I have a Turbo with a cracked screen um about to send back.
greekstile said:
Do you still need this? I have a Turbo with a cracked screen um about to send back.
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Yes, but not if you're about to send it back. I'll get another one. I wouldn't be able to test if the unlock worked.
When I say send it back, I don't have to send it right away. If the unlock does work, I assume I could lock it back down before sending back?
greekstile said:
When I say send it back, I don't have to send it right away. If the unlock does work, I assume I could lock it back down before sending back?
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With Motorola devices, I don't think it's possible. I think the qfuse gets permanently blown. I would send it back if I were you. This method probably won't work anyways.
EDIT: qfuse, stupid autocorrect
I'm willing to give it a shot. Just let me know.
r3pwn said:
With Motorola devices, I don't think it's possible. I think the cause gets permanently blown. I would send it back if I were you. This method probably won't work anyways.
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i will help u too if needed
got a Droid turbo
danger2u said:
i will help u too if needed
got a Droid turbo
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How does one have a Turbo that is eligible for unlocked bootloader? This sounds like candy covered in gold to me.