Hi all
My XPlay is unlocked and i have not rooted it or used a custom rom.
What are the good and bad points if i unlock the bootloader?
I have no intention of using a custom rom(just wish they would release official 2.3.4 tho) dont care to root it either tbh(tho that could change )
Is it worth unlocking the bootloader?
Oh and have SE confirmed a date for ota of 2.3.4 yet?
Thanks
Jay
I would not say its worth unlocking it...
Cons:
Can't update (As fare as I know)
Warranty Void
Pros:
More freedom to do with your phone (Android offers enough anyway)
Thanks Craig.
Does the Bootloader have to be unlocked to root the phone?
No you don't need to that's all I have done to mine is sim unlock aswell as the bootloader ota and pc companion updater all works fine.
jutley said:
No you don't need to that's all I have done to mine is sim unlock aswell as the bootloader ota and pc companion updater all works fine.
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What did you use to root your xplay jutley? and does invalidate warranty?
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What did you use to root your xplay jutley? and does invalidate warranty?
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Rooting won't void your warranty and you can root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Follow the guide and it will be safe, Also you don't need an unlocked boot loader for that root either, to be honest if you don't plan on using another ROM then don't unlock the boot loader, its pretty risky as the xperia play auto updates OTA.
TheCraig said:
Rooting won't void your warranty and you can root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Follow the guide and it will be safe, Also you don't need an unlocked boot loader for that root either, to be honest if you don't plan on using another ROM then don't unlock the boot loader, its pretty risky as the xperia play auto updates OTA.
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Yep did this earlier and works great. Took me all of 5 minutes.
Root does void your warranty, because it's a software modification in the operative system that Sony doesn't support.
However, you people should learn to understand that your warranty and your technical service is XDA.
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Root does void your warranty, because it's a software modification in the operative system that Sony doesn't support.
However, you people should learn to understand that your warranty and your technical service is XDA.
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+1 but it depends how the warranty is worded, many people with the DHD got there rooted phone fixed because the warranty did'nt specifically mention software modifications
My brother said he was never going to root his phone, but then I showed him all the things he could do with it and now he can't believe he ever felt that way. I think if you looked into the possibilities a little more, you might change your mind too.
Unlocking the bootloader is another thing entirely. If you're satisfied with the stock firmware, then there's no reason to do it.
Thanks guys i might root when i feel brave enough
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I recently obtained an Xperia Play for myself from Verizon. I was wondering if any of you think I should root it or not. I have rooted my old Droid1 and have flashed a few roms on it. I am just finicky about doing this phone since it is brand new to me and the bootloader was just unlocked recently. I don't really want to brick my phone (I'm quite sure no one does.)
Hemingsent said:
I recently obtained an Xperia Play for myself from Verizon. I was wondering if any of you think I should root it or not. I have rooted my old Droid1 and have flashed a few roms on it. I am just finicky about doing this phone since it is brand new to me and the bootloader was just unlocked recently. I don't really want to brick my phone (I'm quite sure no one does.)
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how can your brick your phone rooting if anything you have done the only risky thing unlocking your bootloader
No, I haven't done anything with it yet.
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No, I haven't done anything with it yet.
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you said in your op that "the bootloader was just unlocked recently"
What I meant was that the verizon model was successfully unlocked, not that I had unlocked mine.
So to clarify, I will have to unlock my bootloader in order to obtain root for my Verizon R800x? Also, it will brick if I use an OTA update while it is unlocked? If this is so is it possible to relock the bootloader in order to avoid bricking it? I want to make sure I know as much as I can before attempting to root my play.
Hemingsent said:
1. I will have to unlock my bootloader in order to obtain root for my Verizon R800x?
2. will brick if I use an OTA update while it is unlocked?
3. If this is so is it possible to relock the bootloader in order to avoid bricking it?
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1. Yes
2. Yes, any official updates (Pc companion, OTA, SEUS) will brick your phone
3. Yes. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134334&page=5, But i dont know if it works on the r800x. I think blagus is waiting for someone to test it. Ask on that thread if its working or not. In the case on the r800i you can relock the bootloader from the link above and then use offical updates again.
Tbh you might get more info if you check out the R800X Bootloader CRACKED! thread
Okay, thank you a ton. I have been reading a lot of these forums lately and haven't found a clear answer for my questions until now. I was reading that blagus is waiting for someone to test it but the last post is from the 8th. Now I just play the waiting game.
Hi fellows,
So far I find the common way to unlock bootloader is to require an unlock code from sony by providing IMEI no. And we will be warned that it will void warranty.
However, I am confused that so many fellows use custom rom. So is it ture that those fellows just simply don't care the warranty or they still have it?
I know there might be some other threads talked about this, but i just havent find the answer.
I do not know what the situation is in your country, but here, sony isn't responsible for my warranty. They cant void it.
Still, i haven't seen anyone brick their play permanently yet. so the risk is low and the gain high.
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Hi fellows,
So far I find the common way to unlock bootloader is to require an unlock code from sony by providing IMEI no. And we will be warned that it will void warranty.
However, I am confused that so many fellows use custom rom. So is it ture that those fellows just simply don't care the warranty or they still have it?
I know there might be some other threads talked about this, but i just havent find the answer.
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Don't know but once I bricked my xp flashing nordic 2.3.4 that time I had unlocked bootloader,bloatware removed , rooted firmware and dooms kernel installed I go to Sony service centre they said my phone still is in warranty and they unbridled my phone for free .....
(May be because any one can use SEUS tool for free)
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shsh_ustc said:
Hi fellows,
So far I find the common way to unlock bootloader is to require an unlock code from sony by providing IMEI no. And we will be warned that it will void warranty.
However, I am confused that so many fellows use custom rom. So is it ture that those fellows just simply don't care the warranty or they still have it?
I know there might be some other threads talked about this, but i just havent find the answer.
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Every single person with any device using a custom rom has voided there warrenty. Whats your point?
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AndroHero said:
Every single person with any device using a custom rom has voided there warrenty. Whats your point?
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i meant, for sony, if i understand well, we need to request unlock code from sony by giving the imei of device. i guess they may have record of this?
or is there any easier way to unlock bootloader? i am new to xp, and my previous anroid device doesnt have bootloader lock.
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Well, lets look at it objectively.
They say: "Warning! If you perform this step, you will unlock the boot loader and which may void your warranty."
correct me if i'm wrong here, but that doesn't sound like you just lost your warranty. It sounds like sony wanting to make you think you did.
I suppose that if you completely fry it by over-clocking to far, or mistakes flashing, thats your risk. but say a screen or button that stops working should always be under warranty, regardless of your bootloader.
When Sony published the bootloader unlocking page, they let things clear. Unlocking the bootloader per se doesn't void your warranty, installing custom software (such as rooting and custom ROM) will do.
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When Sony published the bootloader unlocking page, they let things clear. Unlocking the bootloader per se doesn't void your warranty, installing custom software (such as rooting and custom ROM) will do.
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Thanks. That is what I am looking for. So it should be very safe once we have nondroid backup.
As the topic name suggests, is there any way to unlock TN7 without unlocking the bootloader? I just bought this 4 days ago and don't yet want to void my warranty.
A much bigger question that arises in my mind is WILL IT BE POSSIBLE IN NEAR NURTURE THAT ROOTING WILL BE DONE WITHOUT UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER?
kartik.bose said:
As the topic name suggests, is there any way to unlock Tn7 without unlocking the bootloader? I just bought this 4 days ago and don't yet want to void my warranty.
A much bigger question that arises in my mind is WILL IT BE POSSIBLE IN THE FEAR FURTURE THAT ROOTING WILL BE DONE WITHOUT UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER?
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Nope. You need the bootloader to have fastboot access. So you can grant root access via fastboot. There is no other way to input commands other than bootloader screen. If u got it from newegg.com the accidental damage coverage will cover any issues with being bricked or damaged device. Trust me having root on TN7 is awesome! I enjoy those features on this tablet. The little things About root out weigh the bigger things aka warranty.
mitragyna said:
Nope. You need the bootloader to have fastboot access. So you can grant root access via fastboot. There is no other way to input commands other than bootloader screen. If u got it from newegg.com the accidental damage coverage will cover any issues with being bricked or damaged device. Trust me having root on TN7 is awesome! I enjoy those features on this tablet. The little things About root out weigh the bigger things aka warranty.
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Its a XOLO tablet ( Indian distributor ) , but it has that accidental damage protection! but still i dont want to void my official warrenty.
if BL should be unlocked to get fastboot access how did my xperia u got a root method that didn't want any unlocked bootloader?
Manufacturers all make devices different.
mitragyna said:
Manufacturers all make devices different.
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I guess a better question then is how did that weird Chinese program root our tablets on 4.2? It didn't require doing anything at all to the bootloader.
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I guess a better question then is how did that weird Chinese program root our tablets on 4.2? It didn't require doing anything at all to the bootloader.
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Delivered 4.2 Notes came with unlocked bootloaders,they locked it down on 4.3 update.
does the 4.4.2 OTA lock your bootloader n restore recovery?
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Delivered 4.2 Notes came with unlocked bootloaders,they locked it down on 4.3 update.
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Are you saying that when we first got the Note 7 on 4.2.2, they were already unlocked? Then we unwittingly locked it back via the 4.3 OTA? If that's the case, why can't we just use the same method to unlock it back without voiding the warranty?
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Another question: Can I make an update.zip and use the stock recovery to flash it without having to unlock the bootloader? The idea being that I want to flash a fix so that I can have write privileges to my sdcard while I still have stock Kit Kat without root.
Why is there no way to root 4.4.4?
I don't understand how the Sony system works yet, this is my first Sony coming from HTC and Samsung.
Samsungs rooted like a dream without any complications, why is sony so complicated in the process?
Thanks
OmarMagdi said:
Why is there no way to root 4.4.4?
I don't understand how the Sony system works yet, this is my first Sony coming from HTC and Samsung.
Samsungs rooted like a dream without any complications, why is sony so complicated in the process?
Thanks
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Rooting 4.4.4 is easy... as long as you do it the official way, which means unlocking the bootloader and losing your warranty.
People don't want to only gain root, but they want to do it in a way that Sony doesn't see it and this is difficult.
There are easier was of doing it. Downgrade to 4.4.2, root and then flash one of the ROMs based on .167. I have a locked bootloader and flashing either Niaboc's or Pandemic's ROM was the first thing done out of the box for me.
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I'm honestly not fond of the process of downgrading and upgrading, so I was trying to know why it is so complicated and understand how it works, and trying to root it without the longer process.
but then if there's no other way, i terribly need Xposed and Titanium. so yeah.
pec0ra said:
Rooting 4.4.4 is easy... as long as you do it the official way, which means unlocking the bootloader and losing your warranty.
People don't want to only gain root, but they want to do it in a way that Sony doesn't see it and this is difficult.
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Okay,
I don't have warranty anyways because I am in Egypt and rooting voids it here, so I bought it for $100 cheaper without warranty
My bootloader can be unlocked, I've checked.. how can I root it with the official way?
Thanks!
Downgrading is really easy, I don't recommend unlocking your bootloader unless you want to try kernels and CM like roms and dont mind losing bravia engine etc. Just download a 4.2.2 firmware, and flash it with flashtool, root it and then install recovery and flash the rom you like with (4.4.4).
OmarMagdi said:
Okay,
I don't have warranty anyways because I am in Egypt and rooting voids it here, so I bought it for $100 cheaper without warranty [emoji14]
My bootloader can be unlocked, I've checked.. how can I root it with the official way?
Thanks!
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Once you unlocked the bootloader (there's a page on Sony website which explains how to do it), you can flash a recovery or a custom kernel with recovery via fastboot. From the recovery you can then flash supersu.
But be careful before unlocking the bootloader. As said before, you might lose some functionality (like x-reality). I recommend you do some search on the forums.
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I'm honestly not fond of the process of downgrading and upgrading
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Let me tell you something that may be obvious: Sony IS NOT Samsung!
In a Sony Xperia phone there is no risk of bricking the phone while downgrading or upgrading to root. You won't loose the IMEI and the risk of hard bricking the phone is almost non-existent. You can downgrade and upgrade as many times as you wish or need. I've been flashing my phones since 2011, and sometimes all night long. No joke, my Z1 got flashed at least twice a week.
At first, the Xperia world may look complicated, but trust me; A Sony Its the safest phone. Can be easily rooted, not like those HTC or Motorola phones, and even if you end up with a "brick"...It is just a soft-brick. Just turn it off completely and use Flashtool or PC Companion to repair it.
The Flashtool is a very easy to use tool. Our firmwares are file with the .ftf extension, and can be downloaded by the same Flashtool.
Since 2011 I've had HTC, Motorola, Samsung but I always love my Xperia.
Fun fact: its theoreticly impossible to brick a locked bootloader Xperia
+1 as a sony user i can agree flashing and downgrading is safe
Envious_Data said:
Fun fact: its theoreticly impossible to brick a locked bootloader Xperia
+1 as a sony user i can agree flashing and downgrading is safe
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+1
I have used and still using an Xperia Device and never soft bricked it or died in my hands, An Xperia Device is the best device what i have had and have and will ever use,
Flashtool is the doc to save your Sony Device ^^
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
Hey Im getting the Moto X Pure Editon and I was wondering if there are any viable one click root methods, or a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. I have read that one certain (very questionable) method that XDA is against (and rightly so) can be used, but I have no plans on going that route. Im certainly not new to unlocking a bootloader and am not against it. Ive had the original Moto X Developer Edition, and currently have the Nexus 6, but the whole void the warranty deal I would like to avoid if at all possible. If I could get root and use titanium backup and ad free I could be fine with that. That being said is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. And is there something like on the old Droid Razr where you could install a recovery while the bootloader is still locked. Yes I know google is my friend and I have looked but haven't seen anything. So my assumption is I will probably have to unlock the bootloader. But I did want to ask before I jumped and unlocked it, because if anyone would know I know I could find out on here.
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Hey Im getting the Moto X Pure Editon and I was wondering if there are any viable one click root methods, or a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. I have read that one certain (very questionable) method that XDA is against (and rightly so) can be used, but I have no plans on going that route. Im certainly not new to unlocking a bootloader and am not against it. Ive had the original Moto X Developer Edition, and currently have the Nexus 6, but the whole void the warranty deal I would like to avoid if at all possible. If I could get root and use titanium backup and ad free I could be fine with that. That being said is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. And is there something like on the old Droid Razr where you could install a recovery while the bootloader is still locked. Yes I know google is my friend and I have looked but haven't seen anything. So my assumption is I will probably have to unlock the bootloader. But I did want to ask before I jumped and unlocked it, because if anyone would know I know I could find out on here.
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No, no one has developed a method to root without unlocking the bootlader and i doubt there will be one anytime soon(if ever since it's so easy and is an unlocked phone)
Ok thank you.
pizzlewizzle said:
No, no one has developed a method to root without unlocking the bootlader and i doubt there will be one anytime soon(if ever since it's so easy and is an unlocked phone)
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With the hassles Motorola gives people trying to get warranty support after unlocking the bootloader, it would actually be quite beneficial.
Unlocking bootloader does not void warranty completely!!! Software issues caused by the user are indeed not under warrenty anymore. Hardware related issues are.. I had 2 times screen blemishes and both times my screen got replaced for free. Great service from motorola.
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Unlocking bootloader does not void warranty completely!!! Software issues caused by the user are indeed not under warrenty anymore. Hardware related issues are.. I had 2 times screen blemishes and both times my screen got replaced for free. Great service from motorola.
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Ok I have done that with other phones but I had read mixed results concerning the Moto X Pure. So if it is hardware related Motorola will honor the warrenty, software your SOL. But software we can always reflash the stock system and all.
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Ok I have done that with other phones but I had read mixed results concerning the Moto X Pure. So if it is hardware related Motorola will honor the warrenty, software your SOL. But software we can always reflash the stock system and all.
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If you unlock boot loader ur self. Theres a oneclick root app calles kingroot they quote they can root amy phone its one of those china made apps and closed source, id only use ir if your that desperate. Also they install there own version of supersu.. but theres a way to remove it just.google it..
Kingroot doesn't work. At least it didn't on mine. Only way I've found is either systemless or toolkit if you're on lollipop
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Kingroot doesn't work. At least it didn't on mine. Only way I've found is either systemless or toolkit if you're on lollipop
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well i found this https://www.search4roots.com/how-to-easily-root-moto-x-style-marshmallow-6-0-1/
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well i found this https://www.search4roots.com/how-to-easily-root-moto-x-style-marshmallow-6-0-1/
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I'd stick with the tested and tried methods. One click options have the potential for opening the doorway to unwanted content.....
Chainfire's supersu has been around for a long time.
Unlocking the bootloader is a must if you want to root on this phone... ATM anyway and I doubt it will change. I used to think one click root was the way to go too but once again, there are potentially many things that can go wrong so knowing the tried and true manual ways is always best. Knowing how to recover from botched attempts has allowed me to bring my phone back from soft bricks several times.
Sent from my awesome phone!