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[Q] Is it possible to do software updates via SEUS when bootloader is unlocked?

Hello,
I have one quick question: Is is possible to update your firmware via SEUS in the future, when your bootloader is unlocked?
If so, is root (when accieved ) going to be lost during update?
Thank you,
Linkin

The bootloader has been unlocked by SE not by a XDA dev on purpose, they will not punish you in blocking SEUS
SEUS upgrades will not unroot the phone or else your voided warranty because of root will be unvoided, SE will not give you this kind of gift

as SEUS checks some data on preupdate state yes it is possible if you are on stock rom (with/without root not dependant).
well - root is gone though after flashing SE Update as it rewrites permissions to defaults

Thank you guys!
vegetaleb said:
The bootloader has been unlocked by SE not by a XDA dev on purpose, they will not punish you in blocking SEUS
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I knew that it was unlocked by SE, but I just wanted to check
To be honest I dont see a reason, why DRM only works with locked bootloader... but nevertheless it seems to be that way (at least I read it... dont have DRM content since I am against DRM...).
Mooozer said:
(...) yes it is possible unless you are on stock rom (with/without root not dependant).
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is it possible you did a misspell here? it should ONLY be possible if your are on stock rom, shouldnt it?
Or dont you mean the SE rom with "stock rom" but the original android rom?

But anyway even if you use a custom rom then let say SE release 2.3.3 update or even 2.4 you will have people here who will post a flashable update stock rom you can easily flash in recovery
It's even better and more secure than the online flash by seus (how many complaints about the flashing process freezing at some point with seus?)

ok thank you very much for your answer and your time!
Looking forward to test root on my device

Linkinsoldier said:
is it possible you did a misspell here? it should ONLY be possible if your are on stock rom, shouldnt it?
Or dont you mean the SE rom with "stock rom" but the original android rom?
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ah well ^^
not type when you are thinking on sth else
corrected it

I have unlocked the bootloader, and tried to restore a proper image from SEUS (since i've messed up with a bad boot.img) and it's not possible.
SEUS gives me a message that it won't flash a phone that has a modified software.

mhm, thats actually why I asked maybe it detected a strange bootimage?

Well you can always backup your actual stock rom with a recovery before using a custom rom, just wait and see who is the good dev who will give us the recovery for Arc

how come SE release bootloader unlock for Xperia ARC?
while we got such a hard time on Xperia X10?
it noted there, my warranty will void if i unlock the bootloader.. sigh.. they release the unlock but void ur warranty? cheating

BECAUSE we got such hard time in x10 & people were demanding free bootloader
they flooded se on twitter, facebook, their blogs & support ^^
must have been some number so SE came up with solution

And now you have hundreds of people unlocking their bootloader and no one to Root it

comes time comes root
be patient, in a week or so we have what we need ^^
but it isn't THAT easy as we saw from z's atempts & since there is no exploit working on 2.3 we are lucky to have such "easy" way anyway

[Q] A quick question.

I recently obtained an Xperia Play for myself from Verizon. I was wondering if any of you think I should root it or not. I have rooted my old Droid1 and have flashed a few roms on it. I am just finicky about doing this phone since it is brand new to me and the bootloader was just unlocked recently. I don't really want to brick my phone (I'm quite sure no one does.)

Hemingsent said:
I recently obtained an Xperia Play for myself from Verizon. I was wondering if any of you think I should root it or not. I have rooted my old Droid1 and have flashed a few roms on it. I am just finicky about doing this phone since it is brand new to me and the bootloader was just unlocked recently. I don't really want to brick my phone (I'm quite sure no one does.)
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how can your brick your phone rooting if anything you have done the only risky thing unlocking your bootloader

No, I haven't done anything with it yet.

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No, I haven't done anything with it yet.
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you said in your op that "the bootloader was just unlocked recently"

What I meant was that the verizon model was successfully unlocked, not that I had unlocked mine.

So to clarify, I will have to unlock my bootloader in order to obtain root for my Verizon R800x? Also, it will brick if I use an OTA update while it is unlocked? If this is so is it possible to relock the bootloader in order to avoid bricking it? I want to make sure I know as much as I can before attempting to root my play.

Hemingsent said:
1. I will have to unlock my bootloader in order to obtain root for my Verizon R800x?
2. will brick if I use an OTA update while it is unlocked?
3. If this is so is it possible to relock the bootloader in order to avoid bricking it?
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1. Yes
2. Yes, any official updates (Pc companion, OTA, SEUS) will brick your phone
3. Yes. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134334&page=5, But i dont know if it works on the r800x. I think blagus is waiting for someone to test it. Ask on that thread if its working or not. In the case on the r800i you can relock the bootloader from the link above and then use offical updates again.
Tbh you might get more info if you check out the R800X Bootloader CRACKED! thread

Okay, thank you a ton. I have been reading a lot of these forums lately and haven't found a clear answer for my questions until now. I was reading that blagus is waiting for someone to test it but the last post is from the 8th. Now I just play the waiting game.

Unlock Bootloader Pros and Cons

Hi all
My XPlay is unlocked and i have not rooted it or used a custom rom.
What are the good and bad points if i unlock the bootloader?
I have no intention of using a custom rom(just wish they would release official 2.3.4 tho) dont care to root it either tbh(tho that could change )
Is it worth unlocking the bootloader?
Oh and have SE confirmed a date for ota of 2.3.4 yet?
Thanks
Jay

I would not say its worth unlocking it...
Cons:
Can't update (As fare as I know)
Warranty Void
Pros:
More freedom to do with your phone (Android offers enough anyway)

Thanks Craig.
Does the Bootloader have to be unlocked to root the phone?

No you don't need to that's all I have done to mine is sim unlock aswell as the bootloader ota and pc companion updater all works fine.

jutley said:
No you don't need to that's all I have done to mine is sim unlock aswell as the bootloader ota and pc companion updater all works fine.
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What did you use to root your xplay jutley? and does invalidate warranty?

jaytwo said:
What did you use to root your xplay jutley? and does invalidate warranty?
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Rooting won't void your warranty and you can root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Follow the guide and it will be safe, Also you don't need an unlocked boot loader for that root either, to be honest if you don't plan on using another ROM then don't unlock the boot loader, its pretty risky as the xperia play auto updates OTA.

TheCraig said:
Rooting won't void your warranty and you can root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Follow the guide and it will be safe, Also you don't need an unlocked boot loader for that root either, to be honest if you don't plan on using another ROM then don't unlock the boot loader, its pretty risky as the xperia play auto updates OTA.
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Yep did this earlier and works great. Took me all of 5 minutes.

Root does void your warranty, because it's a software modification in the operative system that Sony doesn't support.
However, you people should learn to understand that your warranty and your technical service is XDA.

Logseman said:
Root does void your warranty, because it's a software modification in the operative system that Sony doesn't support.
However, you people should learn to understand that your warranty and your technical service is XDA.
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+1 but it depends how the warranty is worded, many people with the DHD got there rooted phone fixed because the warranty did'nt specifically mention software modifications

My brother said he was never going to root his phone, but then I showed him all the things he could do with it and now he can't believe he ever felt that way. I think if you looked into the possibilities a little more, you might change your mind too.
Unlocking the bootloader is another thing entirely. If you're satisfied with the stock firmware, then there's no reason to do it.

Thanks guys i might root when i feel brave enough

[Q] Arc s on 3

I have an Arc s using the 3 branded 4.0.4 (4.1.L.0.8) firmware and have wanted to root and unlock the boot loader for ages. The problem is that I don't know the best method of unlocking the boot loader and root the phone. Was wondering if someone could send me in the right direction or give me a good tutorial on how to go from the very basic no root stock firmware to having the phone rooted with the boot loader unlocked would be great if someone if able to help me.

totalfailz said:
I have an Arc s using the 3 branded 4.0.4 (4.1.L.0.8) firmware and have wanted to root and unlock the boot loader for ages. The problem is that I don't know the best method of unlocking the boot loader and root the phone. Was wondering if someone could send me in the right direction or give me a good tutorial on how to go from the very basic no root stock firmware to having the phone rooted with the boot loader unlocked would be great if someone if able to help me.
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See the first link in my signature.

XperienceD said:
See the first link in my signature.
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haha love it xD

totalfailz said:
haha love it xD
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Now that's out of the way, read the stickys, although you seem to have new F.W so it might be rootable using the existing methods or you may need to wait until someone figures out how to root it. Bootloader unlocking is the same regardless of firmware.

totalfailz said:
I have an Arc s using the 3 branded 4.0.4 (4.1.L.0.8) firmware and have wanted to root and unlock the boot loader for ages. The problem is that I don't know the best method of unlocking the boot loader and root the phone. Was wondering if someone could send me in the right direction or give me a good tutorial on how to go from the very basic no root stock firmware to having the phone rooted with the boot loader unlocked would be great if someone if able to help me.
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I have (nearly) the same phone, also on 3 (rant to follow!). In short, your bootloader cannot be unlocked without paying someone to do it for you (around £15). You can still use custom roms (via CWM recovery) without an unlocked bootloader, so IMHO not really worth it. I was waiting for a former member of XDA to unlock my phone for around a week (we weren't free at the same times, etc) and in the end didn't bother.
There may be other ways, but personally I used this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683189, but for ease of use, the toolkit from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601038. Bascially, you need to flash the 4.0.3 kernel using flashtool, use DooMLoRD's kit to root the device, then flash the 4.0.4 kernel back again. After that, you can get CWM recovery from the market, and use that with any rom suitable for locked bootloaders.
BTW, 3 are absolutely the WORST network in the UK, just got off the phone arguing with them about them cutting all 2G services (i now realise why my reception has been so bad for the past 6 months!) while also raising the price of my packages, all without warning.

XTCrefugee said:
I have (nearly) the same phone, also on 3 (rant to follow!). In short, your bootloader cannot be unlocked without paying someone to do it for you (around £15). You can still use custom roms (via CWM recovery) without an unlocked bootloader, so IMHO not really worth it. I was waiting for a former member of XDA to unlock my phone for around a week (we weren't free at the same times, etc) and in the end didn't bother.
There may be other ways, but personally I used this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683189, but for ease of use, the toolkit from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601038. Bascially, you need to flash the 4.0.3 kernel using flashtool, use DooMLoRD's kit to root the device, then flash the 4.0.4 kernel back again. After that, you can get CWM recovery from the market, and use that with any rom suitable for locked bootloaders.
BTW, 3 are absolutely the WORST network in the UK, just got off the phone arguing with them about them cutting all 2G services (i now realise why my reception has been so bad for the past 6 months!) while also raising the price of my packages, all without warning.
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thanks! just the reply I was looking for . I have had no problems on 3, the service and the network has been great for me. I just hate that I am not able to use Sony's method of unlocking the boot loader due to being on 3's branded firmware >.<

totalfailz said:
thanks! just the reply I was looking for . I have had no problems on 3, the service and the network has been great for me. I just hate that I am not able to use Sony's method of unlocking the boot loader due to being on 3's branded firmware >.<
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Doesn't flashing generic firmware solve the bootloader-issue?

Curst said:
Doesn't flashing generic firmware solve the bootloader-issue?
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No.

totalfailz said:
I have an Arc s using the 3 branded 4.0.4 (4.1.L.0.8) firmware and have wanted to root and unlock the boot loader for ages. The problem is that I don't know the best method of unlocking the boot loader and root the phone. Was wondering if someone could send me in the right direction or give me a good tutorial on how to go from the very basic no root stock firmware to having the phone rooted with the boot loader unlocked would be great if someone if able to help me.
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I have 3 also in Sweden, but Alejanrissimo (a guy in the forum) unlocked the bootloader for me remotely and now it is very good. I can flash ROM, kernel, get easy root etc.
I payed 19 US dollars over PayPal and after 10 minutes (with some paper clip operation stuff) my phone was unlocked, even the SIM was unlocked too. :good:
I can still use PCC and SEUS and the TrackID is also still there.

QuadRooter vulnerability

I guess most of you have learned of the recently discovered vulnerability affecting over 900m Qualcomm devices. Apparently even after Google's latest July patches, the vulnerability persists, allowing root access to affected handsets. Pretty much the entire Xperia line using Qualcomm SOCs is affected.
My question is: will we see a rooting method based on this exploit? I know that unlocking the BL is the most straight forward way to root, however me and others I believe, would like to have a backup of their TA partition first. Ivyroot apparently works on older firmwares (not with .253), but as with BackupTA there's always some risk involved when restoring.
Perhaps a bounty is the proper way to go?

expecting security patch by Google!
meanwhile i have installed zonealarm...

Though if we could get a temp root on LB we could always refine the method for a permanent root on LB. Then, on the post from whichever genius makes the permanent root, have a damn neon flashing sign saying "OKAY, GO PATCH THIS NOW" via another kernel or a software fix as part of the "tutorial" post that would eventually be made.

pattmyn said:
Though if we could get a temp root on LB we could always refine the method for a permanent root on LB. Then, on the post from whichever genius makes the permanent root, have a damn neon flashing sign saying "OKAY, GO PATCH THIS NOW" via another kernel or a software fix as part of the "tutorial" post that would eventually be made.
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permanent root on LB cannot be done post 5.1.1 (android). it will be same as finding loop wholes in system and vulnerabilities of MM. atleast SONY don't support such methods where SONY RIC protects device to the level of putting it in to bootloops rather than allowing root access (when tried rooting on LB and DM-VARIETY+SONYRIC on).
the permanent solution ? either
1. switch to devices which allow PREROOTED O/S
2. UB and flash Kernal /ROMS as your own

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permanent root on LB cannot be done post 5.1.1 (android). it will be same as finding loop wholes in system and vulnerabilities of MM. atleast SONY don't support such methods where SONY RIC protects device to the level of putting it in to bootloops rather than allowing root access (when tried rooting on LB and DM-VARIETY+SONYRIC on).
the permanent solution ? either
1. switch to devices which allow PREROOTED O/S
2. UB and flash Kernal /ROMS as your own
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Well that's a depressing way to start my day lol. I love this damn phone but there's some rooted apps I miss dearly.

pattmyn said:
Well that's a depressing way to start my day lol. I love this damn phone but there's some rooted apps I miss dearly.
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i know what you mean! Xperias are my personal addiction!
i made deal with devil and lost drm keys and took security risks over my Z5 in exchange of rooted device.
in my opinion its matter of time, sooner or later you will also root your device!

YasuHamed said:
i know what you mean! Xperias are my personal addiction!
i made deal with devil and lost drm keys and took security risks over my Z5 in exchange of rooted device.
in my opinion its matter of time, sooner or later you will also root your device!
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Not with a locked bootloader that can't be unlocked, I ain't. Unless you know some magical people at Sony that could override that lol

pattmyn said:
Not with a locked bootloader that can't be unlocked, I ain't. Unless you know some magical people at Sony that could override that lol
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well one LONG workaround for you will be
via flashtool, (xperifirm) select z5p , select "INTERNAL" in the country list and download .170 version (android 5.0.2) the version at which it left sony factory.
flash it, Root it via kingroot (where kingroot is considered unsafe) , extract DRM KEYS
https://github.com/DevShaft/Backup-TA/releases
once u have those, upgrade to 6.0.1 and unlock the bootloader, flash it with custom kernal and relock the boot loader.
this way atleast you will have your ORIGINAL z5p KEYS with you for any future times

However relocking the BL with root will result in bootloop, since file system hash won't match the bootup check. However, with a TA partition backup, running an unlocked BL is much safer, for when you need to relock BL, and send the phone in for repairs etc.

YasuHamed said:
well one LONG workaround for you will be
via flashtool, (xperifirm) select z5p , select "INTERNAL" in the country list and download .170 version (android 5.0.2) the version at which it left sony factory.
flash it, Root it via kingroot (where kingroot is considered unsafe) , extract DRM KEYS
https://github.com/DevShaft/Backup-TA/releases
once u have those, upgrade to 6.0.1 and unlock the bootloader, flash it with custom kernal and relock the boot loader.
this way atleast you will have your ORIGINAL z5p KEYS with you for any future times
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Not all bootloaders can be unlocked. Some specifically can't be because Sony made them that way because the carriers wanted it that way...
Sent from my SGP311 using XDA Free mobile app

guhvanoh said:
Not all bootloaders can be unlocked. Some specifically can't be because Sony made them that way because the carriers wanted it that way...
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agree, i believe z1 and z tablets in USA (versions) were falling in the catagory you mentioned.
if the bootloader cannot be locked then.... betty buy blackberry
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Not all bootloaders can be unlocked. Some specifically can't be because Sony made them that way because the carriers wanted it that way...
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agree, i believe z1 and z tablets in USA (versions) were falling in the catagory you mentioned.
if the bootloader cannot be locked then.... betty buy blackberry

guhvanoh said:
Not all bootloaders can be unlocked. Some specifically can't be because Sony made them that way because the carriers wanted it that way...
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What he said.

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What he said.
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he is referring to some sony devices who's bootloader was denied unlocking.
but don't worry, most of the devices (outside USA) has bootunlocking ALLOWED

Per-purchase question .....
YasuHamed said:
he is referring to some Sony devices who's bootloader was denied unlocking.
but don't worry, most of the devices (outside USA) has boot unlocking ALLOWED
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My GF's M4 Aqua had the option to unlock the bootloader in the dev settings. It still couldn't have the BL unlocked (E2306), but the other 2 variations could, the E2303 and the E2353.
The E2306 was subsidized and discounted by Sony and mass distributed by lower end carriers here in Canada, hence the unlockable BL.
This model has the E6833 and the E6883, which one has the BL that can be/is unlocked?

UnableToResetOldProfile said:
My GF's M4 Aqua had the option to unlock the bootloader in the dev settings. It still couldn't have the BL unlocked (E2306), but the other 2 variations could, the E2303 and the E2353.
The E2306 was subsidized and discounted by Sony and mass distributed by lower end carriers here in Canada, hence the unlockable BL.
This model has the E6833 and the E6883, which one has the BL that can be/is unlocked?
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the OEM UNLOCKING allowed in Developer options is just an extra step.
my z5dual was giving one IMEI however with flashtool i was getting TWO IMEI numbers, both different and with the second imei i was able to unlock.
is yours M4aqua Dual