The pro & cons of unlocking the bootloader:
Pro: Install customs ROMS with custom kernels (basically that's it)
Cons: - Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
If someone can add some Pro's to an unlock bootloader please do it..
Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.
I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone.
Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.
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I spoke to Motorola & my carrier services, also read the warning details before the unlock process begins.
I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone
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Same here..(I learned all that after the fact)
I'd add this to Pro:
If you're stuck on Rogers 49003 ICS because you flashed the ROM trying to get root, your best option to get anything above 4.0.4 is to unlock bootloader?
Perhaps a CWM install will be possible for those with unlocked bootloaders when updates come.
It seems that in one form or another an unlocked bootloader means being able to push all the new files in doesn't it? Is there any limitation on this phone, for example flashing a new modem or kernel?
Cons one by one:
itzik_man said:
- Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
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True, but obvious.
itzik_man said:
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
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Nope. Even if you were not to receive OTA, which by the way is not true as I've observed on my Photon Q, you can still freely flash the new firmwares yourself ^^
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- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
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Depends on ones point of view. Usually a CM port means you get newer Android sooner.
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- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
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Why it wouldn't? Unlocking BLs has no impact on upgrade schedule.
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- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
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No. That's solely on Moto / Google decision. They don't have to update it at all. (See Droid 3, Milestone 3, Motorola XT720 etc.)
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- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
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Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
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- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
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You can sue Moto for breaking laws. They can't forbid you doing that (don't know honestly how is that in US / Canada, but I doubt that seeing how it works with computer games).
So please, while for normal user not willing to flash custom ROMs it's true that they should not unlock the bootloader, don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
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Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...
At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
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Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...
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Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.
I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.
We should be promoting "unlock the world"
This is not to imply everything should be free, however if I own something it should be mine in every regard, that includes breaking it.
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@skrilax thanks for you work on the a500.
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I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.
Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.
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To end my part in this discussion: The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !
Darbness said:
I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.
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Have you tried out lte tethering? It doesn't work on Rogers.
To epinter -
I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.http://www.linuxmobile
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I did not notice your response at first, now to the point -
Without any disrespect to the work, time & effort invested, the main point is being ignored by the developers: All comments I got on this OP didn't touched the number one reason of my suggestion to not unlock the bootloader: There in not really enough of a variety of development options today to justification the bootloader unlocked of the xt925.
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Cons one by one:
Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
Tombs1234 said:
At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?
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The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !
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It's your decision whether to unlock the bootloader or not. I'm just saying (for other users) that many of the cons you wrote were absolutely incorrect.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
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I believe there is something stored in the pds partition. Or at least it is that way on Droid RAZR XT912 and you had to fix it to remove the remaining traces. Flashing FXZ is also a way how to get a clean stock firmware, but pds partition is not affected that way.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?
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I think he meant "stock firmware" instead of "stock bootloader"
So if that were the case on this phone, I wonder if doing a dd backup of the pds partition before rooting at ICS, for restoring after downgrade, would be the way to go. Assuming it restores properly, it would be a good thing to add to the sticky thread about rooting. I did a dd of all my partitions except for /data last night, but I'm already rooted.
hmm... I'm wondering if there's something inaccessable in /system or even the sdcard since they get mounted with fuse. My only other Android phone was the Galaxy S II which was pretty straightforward and dead simple to root and unroot. I was surprised to see the fuse module being used to mount anything when I got this one.
The original topic is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857558
I don't know if there was a proper fix developed (haven't checked) on the RAZR.
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I made excite? jajajja .... no, I have no way to unlock just open this topic to see if anyone knows how to unlock the devices that do not have developers edition
From what I understand you have an XT926 which can't be unlocked. Only the XT925 & XT926 dev edition can be unlocked through Motorola
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saloums7 said:
From what I understand you have an XT926 which can't be unlocked. Only the XT925 & XT926 dev edition can be unlocked through Motorola
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I have xt925 but i think is not the dev edition
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I have xt925 but i think is not the dev edition
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There is only 1 version of the XT925 and it can be unlocked through Moto the steps are detailed on the moto page
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There is only 1 version of the XT925 and it can be unlocked through Moto the steps are detailed on the moto page
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I put the fastboot code into moto page but they say that my device not support bootloader unlock
Is that the only restriction? If a code is it, you could just use a fake code, or hex exit in a new code to the unlocking program.
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I put the fastboot code into moto page but they say that my device not support bootloader unlock
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Double check to make sure you entered the correct code its pretty big might be a typo in there
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Double check to make sure you entered the correct code its pretty big might be a typo in there
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I try about 20 times!!!!!!
If you have any apps frozen, unfreeze them and reboot and maybe that will work. If you've removed anything from withing /system, put it back and put the correct permissions and if you don't have those files (if there was anything deleted) then perhaps someone can provide them for upload, then give that a try.
Lastly, if you flashed a ROM that isn't from you carrier or your country, then perhaps using the appropriate tools (I haven't used them so can't point out what they are, other than to say they exist) to put the stock ROM back will allow you to unlock.
Last resort, you can try to get it replaced under warranty stating that you're a developer and need this feature, however if you're rooted I would guess that they'd would be a lot more inclined to check for that replacing a handset as rooting voids the warranty and unrooting, sadly, doesn't remove the info stored on the device that checks to see if the phone had been rooted in the past. You can unroot and if your countries laws are protective enough, though, you might be able to ask them to show how rooting the device caused the failure. In my case, the contract was signed with my carrier who has to be certified as a reseller and they never showed me any warranty documentation, so I was locked into the purchase of the handset over 24 months and am covered by the verbal details of the warranty, which were "everything but physical damage" since they unboxed it and handed it to me activated after I signed. It wouldn't be hard to cancel my contract and hand back the handset if I was refused a warranty repair on these grounds. That they opened the box without me asking is probably enough. That said, consumer protection is top notch in world here.
Short version of the last part though, you can always try a warranty replacement. You'd have to look into if there's a fee in the case that you weren't covered by the warranty. As long as the bootloader is unlocked (and you aren't rooted), you still have you're warranty since the code didn't activate, and I haven't read the page thoroughly enough, but if the page says receiving the code voids the warranty then you can still argue that it was defective prior to receiving it by citing that the code didn't work. If you can unroot, and you live somewhere that the issue of the evidence of your root, or whatever, can be easily turned over to a consumer protection body, then it might be worth the trouble.
Also, you can probably call and ask for a new code. Any way you go about doing any of the above though though, be persistently polite. It goes a long way over trying to be forceful.
I'm likely about to unlike my phone by the way, assuming I can find a ROM that looks appealing enough to try out. I'll try it with the multitude of frozen system apps and the handful of additional ones still in place, first, and see how it goes.
Would it be possible to root the droid razr maxx hd if it is not a the developers edition?? Please help.
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Would it be possible to root the droid razr maxx hd if it is not a the developers edition?? Please help.
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If you're on JB then you need to downgrade to ICS using the appropriate ROM for your carrier, use a tool to root, download an app that will allow you to bakcup the root and unroot the device, then upgrade to ICS, then reinsert the root. The instructions are scattered because there's 2 differant models of the phone to deal with and there isn't any consolidated thread that involves all those steps. I haven't had to downgrade and have a differant model than what the maxx version is so that's really as much help as I can be, but the answer is supposedly "yes, you can do this" and its the prefered way for a lot of people from what I gather.
Be sure to backup any data on your sdcard before you begin. I didn't lose any since mine was just keeping root on an OTA upgrade from ICS to JB, but I don't know if you lose it or now when you downgrade.
Hopefully someone else can be more helpful that what I was. There are threads where various carrier versions for both ICS and Jellybean are hosted, as well, so you'lle need to find your carrier's ICS. If it isn't available in the thread then search my posts and someone linked me off to a download for a Telstra ROM and further back in the URL revelealed hosting a heap of ROMS though I wouldn't know which one you would need specifically.
The only issue I ran into, though my experience is possibly only covering half of what's involved for you, was that after I reinserted root, only apps that had permission prior to the upgrade had root permission; I couldn't add any. Other people have had a problem with superuser being inserted with wrong file permissions. The thing I did was to update the binary, this didn't work, then installed SuperSu and updated the binary which also didn't work, then I did a cleanup for installing another su app from the market from withing SuperSU... can't remember from this point, either installed another root app or uninstalled and reinstalled SuperSu (which scared the hell out of me I'd lose root at the time so I think this is what I did), then updated the binary and things were fine. Note that I never uninstalled the regular SU app that the injection tool for ICS put on the phone during this process though. At the end of it, I ended up with SuperSU and no normal su, which the injection tool installs. There hasn't been a huge issue with this though it has happened to some others.
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
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I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
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So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
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So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
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You will most certainly be able to unlock the phone with the latest update using either cellzealots method or mine, but the bootloader will remain locked disabling the ability to use custom roms. If you get one on the 98.17.66 (?) Software your good to use Matt's Droid RAZR M Utility to unlock the bootloader yet so dont take the update, unlock the bl and do what youd like
DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Root works fine still using the RAZR M Utility
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
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So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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Too bad you aren't closer to Reading, I could really use the business at my shop lol
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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I have both to play with and I have to say I like the feel and size of the RAZR M moreso over the bulk of the HD. won over my Galaxy Nexus which hates me now lol
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
braveally said:
Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
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Its a great little thing, I have people playing with them in my office all the time even my boss and hes an iFart lover
HI @all,
now that we have a FW for the device - is root possible?
All known root methods are not working.
BR
UserX10
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Solved -> Thanks you DooMLoRD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-...58xx-cwm-based-recovery-6-0-4-7-root-t2890231
Delete.
Jeez.
People haven't even got their hands on the phone yet...
Be patient
Anyone wanna try Framaroot?
http://framaroot.net/index.html
framaroot does not work ...
Ok because I saw it posted on this blog and thought it would work. Strange!
plisk3n said:
Ok because I saw it posted on this blog and thought it would work. Strange!
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Well, it says "tested on device" and is from 9/4, before the device was even unavailable. I'd be careful that apk isn't something more.
CollinsJ said:
Well, it says "tested on device" and is from 9/4, before the device was even unavailable. I'd be careful that apk isn't something more.
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Yeah that's also the reason why I decided not to download it, I'll just wait till someone @ XDA finds a way to root the device. It's not like we'll die because our device isn't rooted for x weeks/months.
Weeks/months?! I would die! It's been a day and the amount of things I can't do is driving me nuts!
If you have an unlocked boot loader see what I say at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55709585. If you don't I think you'll be waiting for a while - someone needs to find an exploit and write the app/code needed to exploit it. This has become increasingly hard as Android has become more secure - before Towelroot AFAIK the Z1/Z2 was not rootable for a long time. You'd probably be waiting a similar length of time for the next big root exploit.
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If you have an unlocked boot loader see what I say at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55709585. If you don't I think you'll be waiting for a while - someone needs to find an exploit and write the app/code needed to exploit it. This has become increasingly hard as Android has become more secure - before Towelroot AFAIK the Z1/Z2 was not rootable for a long time. You'd probably be waiting a similar length of time for the next big root exploit.
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Would it not be helpful to contact Sony themselves? They're increasingly developer friendly, these days. Maybe they'd be willing to offer pointers to root app developers?
mudnightoil said:
Would it not be helpful to contact Sony themselves? They're increasingly developer friendly, these days. Maybe they'd be willing to offer pointers to root app developers?
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Well I know people at Sony and long story short: if you want root unlock the boot loader. Its as simple as that. You have to understand that while a root exploit looks nice to tinkerers its also a serious security issue which must be fixed - that is why many root solutions also patch the exploit they use after using it.
Does unlocking the bootloader require wiping the phone? I know this is required on the nexus phones. If it requires wipe then its the very first thing I'm doing once I get the phone out of the box.
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Well I know people at Sony and long story short: if you want root unlock the boot loader. Its as simple as that. You have to understand that while a root exploit looks nice to tinkerers its also a serious security issue which must be fixed - that is why many root solutions also patch the exploit they use after using it.
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I'm aware of this ... but on the one hand being one of the few if only manufacturers to provide official unlocking for the bootloaders (with the obvious intention of spurring development etc), but on the other actively closing non-simple (i.e. ones requiring a dedicated program) root 'exploits' would seem a little at odds. Is it really that black and white? You'd think it might be in their interests to provide an official complex / secure rooting method.
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Does unlocking the bootloader require wiping the phone? I know this is required on the nexus phones. If it requires wipe then its the very first thing I'm doing once I get the phone out of the box.
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Yes. It will wipe everything AFAIK - double check with the website.
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I'm aware of this ... but on the one hand being one of the few if only manufacturers to provide official unlocking for the bootloaders (with the obvious intention of spurring development etc), but on the other actively closing non-simple (i.e. ones requiring a dedicated program) root 'exploits' would seem a little at odds. Is it really that black and white? You'd think it might be in their interests to provide an official complex / secure rooting method.
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Your statements contradict themselves. Rooting without unlocking the bootloader needs a security flaw. How can any method which leaves a security hole be secure?
Bootloader unlocking gets around this by letting you control the boot partition of the device so you can disable the "security barrier" that android provides. This is a choice you are explicitly making which is why it is the only "secure" way to root.
Does towelroot work?
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Does towelroot work?
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Unfortunately Towelroot does not work.
I've read some people saying that unlocking the bootloader causes you to lose your DRM keys which apparently would affect software/ camera issues?
Can anyone verify this?
tacocats said:
I've read some people saying that unlocking the bootloader causes you to lose your DRM keys which apparently would affect software/ camera issues?
Can anyone verify this?
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This is very true. On the z1c I neglected to back up the TA partition. And apparently lost native mirror cast and some camera features when I rolled the device back to stock.
Back up your TA partition before unlocking BL.
dillalade said:
This is very true. On the z1c I neglected to back up the TA partition. And apparently lost native mirror cast and some camera features when I rolled the device back to stock.
Back up your TA partition before unlocking BL.
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Any idea how this could be done?
Okay we have a Bounty thread... Leave that for just plain Bounty pledges..
In here feel free to talk about BootLoader discusions, Root discussions..
Nice thread. Would be nice to discuss about Moto Maxx root as well. Since it has unlockable bootloader, I believe root is pretty doable, but I have no idea how to, since there's no custom recovery yet.
Nice thread.... looking forward
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some one knows how can we help to find a exploit or something that will make our Turbo able to get root??
When lollipop gets released for the Turbo, I'm going to have a tough decision. I really want that sweet new lollipop, but I also know that the chances of rooting it will go down significantly. So, the question is, should we stay on KitKat in hopes of getting root? It's going to be really hard to resist 5.0. And since the 2014 Moto X just got it, I think we're not far behind.
There's a vulnerability in KitKat, we just have to figure out how to exploit it. CVE-2014-7911. More info can be found at http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Nov/51.
Your chances of getting root with LP and a locked bootloader depend on an exploit which has yet to be found and that may be some time and on some phones has never happened on previous operating systems. You would be much better off if the phone was released for unrestricted world wide sales but being CDMA and a Verizon exclusive is guaranteed to prevent the large scale adoption that would have made it more attractive to developers. Realistically no one here knows better than you whether root is more important than getting LP are for you. For my purposes I consider root a must have while having no issues with kk which I like just fine which would make it an easy choice.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
madeiracam said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
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Maybe. With Qualcomm chips, it's possible to make reverting to an older version result in a hard brick. With Big Red's knowledge of what they can do, unfortunately, they might implement this "feature". Plus, a vulnerability has already been found. We just need to figure out how to exploit it.
madeiracam said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
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At least with my Motorola RAZR M, every time they had a big version upgrade they also upgraded the security partition (which would be incompatible with prior firmwares), making it impossible to downgrade without an unlocked bootloader.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
I think I have an idea on how to obtain a bootloader unlock. It most likely will not work, though, as I highly doubt it would be this stupid simple. As I do not yet have a Turbo, could someone send me the result of "fastboot oem get_unlock_data"? PM it to me and I'll test my theory. I'll also need one from some other (model doesn't matter) Motorola device, too, that actually is eligible for official bootloader unlocking.
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I think I have an idea on how to obtain a bootloader unlock. It most likely will not work, though, as I highly doubt it would be this stupid simple. As I do not yet have a Turbo, could someone send me the result of "fastboot oem get_unlock_data"? PM it to me and I'll test my theory. I'll also need one from some other (model doesn't matter) Motorola device, too, that actually is eligible for official bootloader unlocking.
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I have both a Droid Turbo and a Motorola device that is eligible for bootloader unlocking, but I don't know if I can trust to give my oem unlock data if that is in any kind "dangerous" for me or my guarantee. Can you just give me a hint and I check it out?
josebama said:
I have both a Droid Turbo and a Motorola device that is eligible for bootloader unlocking, but I don't know if I can trust to give my oem unlock data if that is in any kind "dangerous" for me or my guarantee. Can you just give me a hint and I check it out?
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Yeah, sure. I'll send I sent you a PM.
Do you still need this? I have a Turbo with a cracked screen um about to send back.
greekstile said:
Do you still need this? I have a Turbo with a cracked screen um about to send back.
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Yes, but not if you're about to send it back. I'll get another one. I wouldn't be able to test if the unlock worked.
When I say send it back, I don't have to send it right away. If the unlock does work, I assume I could lock it back down before sending back?
greekstile said:
When I say send it back, I don't have to send it right away. If the unlock does work, I assume I could lock it back down before sending back?
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With Motorola devices, I don't think it's possible. I think the qfuse gets permanently blown. I would send it back if I were you. This method probably won't work anyways.
EDIT: qfuse, stupid autocorrect
I'm willing to give it a shot. Just let me know.
r3pwn said:
With Motorola devices, I don't think it's possible. I think the cause gets permanently blown. I would send it back if I were you. This method probably won't work anyways.
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i will help u too if needed
got a Droid turbo
danger2u said:
i will help u too if needed
got a Droid turbo
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How does one have a Turbo that is eligible for unlocked bootloader? This sounds like candy covered in gold to me.
Hey Im getting the Moto X Pure Editon and I was wondering if there are any viable one click root methods, or a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. I have read that one certain (very questionable) method that XDA is against (and rightly so) can be used, but I have no plans on going that route. Im certainly not new to unlocking a bootloader and am not against it. Ive had the original Moto X Developer Edition, and currently have the Nexus 6, but the whole void the warranty deal I would like to avoid if at all possible. If I could get root and use titanium backup and ad free I could be fine with that. That being said is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. And is there something like on the old Droid Razr where you could install a recovery while the bootloader is still locked. Yes I know google is my friend and I have looked but haven't seen anything. So my assumption is I will probably have to unlock the bootloader. But I did want to ask before I jumped and unlocked it, because if anyone would know I know I could find out on here.
pacman377 said:
Hey Im getting the Moto X Pure Editon and I was wondering if there are any viable one click root methods, or a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. I have read that one certain (very questionable) method that XDA is against (and rightly so) can be used, but I have no plans on going that route. Im certainly not new to unlocking a bootloader and am not against it. Ive had the original Moto X Developer Edition, and currently have the Nexus 6, but the whole void the warranty deal I would like to avoid if at all possible. If I could get root and use titanium backup and ad free I could be fine with that. That being said is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. And is there something like on the old Droid Razr where you could install a recovery while the bootloader is still locked. Yes I know google is my friend and I have looked but haven't seen anything. So my assumption is I will probably have to unlock the bootloader. But I did want to ask before I jumped and unlocked it, because if anyone would know I know I could find out on here.
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No, no one has developed a method to root without unlocking the bootlader and i doubt there will be one anytime soon(if ever since it's so easy and is an unlocked phone)
Ok thank you.
pizzlewizzle said:
No, no one has developed a method to root without unlocking the bootlader and i doubt there will be one anytime soon(if ever since it's so easy and is an unlocked phone)
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With the hassles Motorola gives people trying to get warranty support after unlocking the bootloader, it would actually be quite beneficial.
Unlocking bootloader does not void warranty completely!!! Software issues caused by the user are indeed not under warrenty anymore. Hardware related issues are.. I had 2 times screen blemishes and both times my screen got replaced for free. Great service from motorola.
bartjeh1991 said:
Unlocking bootloader does not void warranty completely!!! Software issues caused by the user are indeed not under warrenty anymore. Hardware related issues are.. I had 2 times screen blemishes and both times my screen got replaced for free. Great service from motorola.
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Ok I have done that with other phones but I had read mixed results concerning the Moto X Pure. So if it is hardware related Motorola will honor the warrenty, software your SOL. But software we can always reflash the stock system and all.
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Ok I have done that with other phones but I had read mixed results concerning the Moto X Pure. So if it is hardware related Motorola will honor the warrenty, software your SOL. But software we can always reflash the stock system and all.
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If you unlock boot loader ur self. Theres a oneclick root app calles kingroot they quote they can root amy phone its one of those china made apps and closed source, id only use ir if your that desperate. Also they install there own version of supersu.. but theres a way to remove it just.google it..
Kingroot doesn't work. At least it didn't on mine. Only way I've found is either systemless or toolkit if you're on lollipop
Jay794 said:
Kingroot doesn't work. At least it didn't on mine. Only way I've found is either systemless or toolkit if you're on lollipop
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well i found this https://www.search4roots.com/how-to-easily-root-moto-x-style-marshmallow-6-0-1/
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well i found this https://www.search4roots.com/how-to-easily-root-moto-x-style-marshmallow-6-0-1/
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I'd stick with the tested and tried methods. One click options have the potential for opening the doorway to unwanted content.....
Chainfire's supersu has been around for a long time.
Unlocking the bootloader is a must if you want to root on this phone... ATM anyway and I doubt it will change. I used to think one click root was the way to go too but once again, there are potentially many things that can go wrong so knowing the tried and true manual ways is always best. Knowing how to recover from botched attempts has allowed me to bring my phone back from soft bricks several times.
Sent from my awesome phone!