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Why one should never unlock the Motorola Razr HD bootloader (xt925) !

The pro & cons of unlocking the bootloader:
Pro: Install customs ROMS with custom kernels (basically that's it)
Cons: - Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
If someone can add some Pro's to an unlock bootloader please do it..

Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.

I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone.

Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.
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I spoke to Motorola & my carrier services, also read the warning details before the unlock process begins.
I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone
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Same here..(I learned all that after the fact)

I'd add this to Pro:
If you're stuck on Rogers 49003 ICS because you flashed the ROM trying to get root, your best option to get anything above 4.0.4 is to unlock bootloader?

Perhaps a CWM install will be possible for those with unlocked bootloaders when updates come.
It seems that in one form or another an unlocked bootloader means being able to push all the new files in doesn't it? Is there any limitation on this phone, for example flashing a new modem or kernel?

Cons one by one:
itzik_man said:
- Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
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True, but obvious.
itzik_man said:
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
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Nope. Even if you were not to receive OTA, which by the way is not true as I've observed on my Photon Q, you can still freely flash the new firmwares yourself ^^
itzik_man said:
- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
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Depends on ones point of view. Usually a CM port means you get newer Android sooner.
itzik_man said:
- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
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Why it wouldn't? Unlocking BLs has no impact on upgrade schedule.
itzik_man said:
- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
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No. That's solely on Moto / Google decision. They don't have to update it at all. (See Droid 3, Milestone 3, Motorola XT720 etc.)
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- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
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Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
itzik_man said:
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
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You can sue Moto for breaking laws. They can't forbid you doing that (don't know honestly how is that in US / Canada, but I doubt that seeing how it works with computer games).
So please, while for normal user not willing to flash custom ROMs it's true that they should not unlock the bootloader, don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.

don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
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Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...

At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.

itzik_man said:
Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...
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Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.

I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.

We should be promoting "unlock the world"
This is not to imply everything should be free, however if I own something it should be mine in every regard, that includes breaking it.
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@skrilax thanks for you work on the a500.
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I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.

Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.
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To end my part in this discussion: The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !

Darbness said:
I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.
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Have you tried out lte tethering? It doesn't work on Rogers.

To epinter -
I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.http://www.linuxmobile
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I did not notice your response at first, now to the point -
Without any disrespect to the work, time & effort invested, the main point is being ignored by the developers: All comments I got on this OP didn't touched the number one reason of my suggestion to not unlock the bootloader: There in not really enough of a variety of development options today to justification the bootloader unlocked of the xt925.

Skrilax_CZ said:
Cons one by one:
Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
Tombs1234 said:
At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?

itzik_man said:
The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !
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It's your decision whether to unlock the bootloader or not. I'm just saying (for other users) that many of the cons you wrote were absolutely incorrect.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
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I believe there is something stored in the pds partition. Or at least it is that way on Droid RAZR XT912 and you had to fix it to remove the remaining traces. Flashing FXZ is also a way how to get a clean stock firmware, but pds partition is not affected that way.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?
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I think he meant "stock firmware" instead of "stock bootloader"

So if that were the case on this phone, I wonder if doing a dd backup of the pds partition before rooting at ICS, for restoring after downgrade, would be the way to go. Assuming it restores properly, it would be a good thing to add to the sticky thread about rooting. I did a dd of all my partitions except for /data last night, but I'm already rooted.
hmm... I'm wondering if there's something inaccessable in /system or even the sdcard since they get mounted with fuse. My only other Android phone was the Galaxy S II which was pretty straightforward and dead simple to root and unroot. I was surprised to see the fuse module being used to mount anything when I got this one.

The original topic is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857558
I don't know if there was a proper fix developed (haven't checked) on the RAZR.

[Q] Gonna be getting this when my plan is up, few questions.

I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!

DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.

aviwdoowks said:
I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
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So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.

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So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
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You will most certainly be able to unlock the phone with the latest update using either cellzealots method or mine, but the bootloader will remain locked disabling the ability to use custom roms. If you get one on the 98.17.66 (?) Software your good to use Matt's Droid RAZR M Utility to unlock the bootloader yet so dont take the update, unlock the bl and do what youd like

DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).

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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Root works fine still using the RAZR M Utility

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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD

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So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.

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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.

DubleJayJ said:
Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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Too bad you aren't closer to Reading, I could really use the business at my shop lol
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DubleJayJ said:
Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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I have both to play with and I have to say I like the feel and size of the RAZR M moreso over the bulk of the HD. won over my Galaxy Nexus which hates me now lol

jco23 said:
stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.

braveally said:
Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
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Its a great little thing, I have people playing with them in my office all the time even my boss and hes an iFart lover

Moto CSR: Unlock Bootloader on Retail XT926 Verizon

I had a interesting Chat session today with a Moto CSR here is the log:
Me: I purchased a Used Motorola Droid RAZR HD (Verizon) Retail Version Phone. The purpose was to work on android development. I am interested in unlocking my bootloader for that purpose. The phone itself is out of warranty and therefore I am not concerned about voiding the non-existent warranty. Your Bootloader Unlock webpage here seems to not allow me to do so as it is not developer edition.
Me: From my understanding a Dev Version is the only phone listed. However as previously stated I am out of warranty and wondering if it were possible through customer support to unlock my bootloader.
Gerald Ray: I see. Thanks for the information. Please know that here with Motorola we do not advice to unlock the Bootloader of our phones and for that we don't have steps to do it. If you need further assistance, you may check our nearest Repair Center in your area.
Me: Sorry your response is not clarifying.
Me: Is it possible to unlock the bootloader of a Retail XT926 Motorola Droid RAZR HD that is a Non-Developer version?
Gerald Ray: Yes, it is possible.
Me: I live in Sacramento California where is the nearest Motorola Repair center?
Gerald Ray: This is the site to check: http://www.service-center-locator.com/motorola/motorola-service-center.htm
Gerald Ray: Is there anything else that I can assist you today aside from this?
Me: based on the information provided it seems there are no service centers in my immediate area
Gerald Ray: I understand. You may check the nearest one.
Me: Does this require for me to be there in person?
Gerald Ray: You may try calling them first. We have phone numbers from that site.
Me: Ok thank you
I have emailed three of the service centers provided on the webpage he indicated to get their response to this possibility. I will update the thread once I get confirmation or denial of the ability to unlock the bootloader from the service center.

This thread has potential!

As long as the latest ota hasn't been applied, you can unlock the boot loader. Not sure why you're going through all the hassles of calling a csr.
That is unless you're talking about a phone that does have the latest ota which patches the boot loader unlock exploit.
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I hoping it works because I have a RAZR Maxx HD... That I would like to unlock the boatloader.
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TheGman125 said:
I hoping it works because I have a RAZR Maxx HD... That I would like to unlock the boatloader.
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Unless another exploit has been found for the latest ota, and believe me we would know if there was, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader unless the phone was already unlocked before the ota.
The ability to unlock the bootloader on the hds was due to a security exploit in the code that existed before the latest ota. Using this exploit, Dan came up with code that fooled the phone into unlocking the bootloader. Once it did this, there was an eFuse that was blown to signal that the bootloader was unlocked. This fuse cannot be reset ever back to a locked state.
However, if you applied the ota before unlocking the bootloader, then what the ota did was patch/fix the exploit which means Dan's unlocking code no longer works, therefore you cannot unlock the bootloader.
It took Dan a long time to find the exploit. He has stated he does not have the time to look for a different one. In fact, there may not be another one. We were lucky that the first one was even found.
So unless Motorola decides to allow the hds to be part of the unlocking tool, I would not hold my breath.
The only other hope for you is if someone were to get kexec running on the HD. However, since because of the (now closed) exploit, no one has attempted it. Since a lot of people have their phones unlocked, I don't think the developers are working on kexec.
Plus, with the HDs being about a year old, and newer phones especially are being released, I just don't see anyone putting forth the time and effort to do this.
But, you could always put out a bounty to see if you raise enough cash to give someone if they attempt and succeed. Usually these don't result in anything coming to fruition.
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Unless another exploit has been found for the latest ota, and believe me we would know if there was, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader unless the phone was already unlocked before the ota.
The ability to unlock the bootloader on the hds was due to a security exploit in the code that existed before the latest ota. Using this exploit, Dan came up with code that fooled the phone into unlocking the bootloader. Once it did this, there was an eFuse that was blown to signal that the bootloader was unlocked. This fuse cannot be reset ever back to a locked state.
However, if you applied the ota before unlocking the bootloader, then what the ota did was patch/fix the exploit which means Dan's unlocking code no longer works, therefore you cannot unlock the bootloader.
It took Dan a long time to find the exploit. He has stated he does not have the time to look for a different one. In fact, there may not be another one. We were lucky that the first one was even found.
So unless Motorola decides to allow the hds to be part of the unlocking tool, I would not hold my breath.
The only other hope for you is if someone were to get kexec running on the HD. However, since because of the (now closed) exploit, no one has attempted it. Since a lot of people have their phones unlocked, I don't think the developers are working on kexec.
Plus, with the HDs being about a year old, and newer phones especially are being released, I just don't see anyone putting forth the time and effort to do this.
But, you could always put out a bounty to see if you raise enough cash to give someone if they attempt and succeed. Usually these don't result in anything coming to fruition.
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That sounds like a good idea... Would you be able to help with that? The devices are still good and a lot of people like my self would like to try 4.3 and get that great battery life on most if my devices.
Now, could we create community in Google+ and twitter to increase awareness of the bounty?
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Since my tiny hopes of N5 coming on Verizon is now official dashed, I need to unlock my phone...
i'll be patiently waiting for this thread to update!

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but apparently, no news from the op with a reply is bad news.

[DEV] [BOOTLOADER] [PATCH] [UNLOCK] New Method for Motorola's Bootloader Unlocking

I am willing to Develop & Create a Method for the Locked Bootloaders of our Devices to be able to use ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries & also SuperCID ( Needed For Network Unlocking )
My one is not applicable for unlocking the bootloader, therefore i need a few files from another unlocked device to work with...
Right now, I am using the Modded Firmware SU4-21 Multilingual provided by @CrashXXL on my Droid Ultra.
Users, Developers & Modders Please Respond as i need the files real quick!!
Here's what i need...
mmcblk0p5 ( aboot )
mmcblk0p18 ( modemst1 )
mmcblk0p19 ( modemst2 )
mmcblk0p29 ( cid )
These are the files needed for my work from an unlocked device
Now how do i get them??
Here's the command-line(s) you need to follow in order to get those files out of your device...
Open Ternimal or CMD on your Computer and do as the following..
Guide for SuperCID in-case if you don't have it in your system... ( Needed for my work )
Just follow this guide over here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317536
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Code:
adb shell
su
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5 of=/sdcard/mmcblk0p5
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18 of=/sdcard/mmcblk0p18
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p19 of=/sdcard/mmcblk0p19
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p29 of=/sdcard/mmcblk0p29
Now simply copy mmcblk0p5 , mmcblk0p18 , mmcblk0p19 & mmcblk0p29 from the root of your sdcard to your computer or just make a zip file including them, upload & give me the link

@Tanzior @Jaocagomez @Franzie3 @CrashXXL @CrazyRussianXDA @aviwdoowks @Al936 @Crossvxm @summer.cat @Topsnake
I've check all the works, roms, guides, mods and everything done by you people, see my thread and please respond asap

I might get you the files, I still have the droid maxx unlocked laying around, I'm not in home but I'll post it later
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Thanks in Advance
Jaocagomez said:
I might get you the files, I still have the droid maxx unlocked laying around, I'm not in home but I'll post it later
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1 The Motorola SuperCID is no concept, it is not HTC
2 unlock bootloader stored qFuse 428/00000001
3 Secure On be stored at a different address in the same qfuse
4 qfuse access can be obtained only through TZ that is very well protected

I feel as if everyone is ignoring this thread, it has been too quiet here

JH1108 said:
I feel as if everyone is ignoring this thread, it has been too quiet here
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I think Crashxxl's comments crashed our hopes.

I for one appreciate the concept but, considering nobody has ever gone to this way of potentially doing it means it's basically not going to happen but who knows, small miracles happen from time to time.

Wish I could be of some help. The only idea other I can think of is to find a way to let the phone RSD flash SU4-21 so we can unlock it. Sorry I'm not a dev. It's something I want to get into. Just don't know how or where to start...

Great idea
this is a great idea of copying the unlocked bootloader to locked phone how much progress you have achieved ?

hey what if I just go into the mmcblk0p5 and change these lines "Device_isLocked.status code=0"
"Device_isUnlocked.status code=1" "Device_isLocked.status code=2" and "Device_isUnlocked.status code=3" knowing that 0 and 2 obviously are codes for bootloader being locked and 1 and 3 being code for bootloader unlocked what if I make all code values to 1 and 3 only to trick the device into thinking it is unlocked??? Probably not I'll probably end up in a brick or bootloop. I'm just so anxious to have my bootloader unlocked I'll try anything. If this doesn't work I will probably reflashed through Rsdlite and retry a different process. Owell wish me luck I guess

DROID_4_UsEr said:
hey what if I just go into the mmcblk0p5 and change these lines "Device_isLocked.status code=0"
"Device_isUnlocked.status code=1" "Device_isLocked.status code=2" and "Device_isUnlocked.status code=3" knowing that 0 and 2 obviously are codes for bootloader being locked and 1 and 3 being code for bootloader unlocked what if I make all code values to 1 and 3 only to trick the device into thinking it is unlocked??? Probably not I'll probably end up in a brick or bootloop. I'm just so anxious to have my bootloader unlocked I'll try anything. If this doesn't work I will probably reflashed through Rsdlite and retry a different process. Owell wish me luck I guess
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Not sure if that will work but who knows, at this point it might be worth a try.
I too would love to have the bootloader unlocked on my Maxx but 4.4.4 is a hard nut to crack. The good thing about it is that Motorola/Lenovo phones are very hard to brick permanently. As long as you can get to fastboot, there is always a way to restore stock firmware. Wish you well. :good:

classic757 said:
Not sure if that will work but who knows, at this point it might be worth a try.
I too would love to have the bootloader unlocked on my Maxx but 4.4.4 is a hard nut to crack. The good thing about it is that Motorola/Lenovo phones are very hard to brick permanently. As long as you can get to fastboot, there is always a way to restore stock firmware. Wish you well. :good:
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Would be strange that an android security expert like jcase would miss the fact that you could just change a few numbers to get the bootloader unlocked...

stealthllama said:
Would be strange that an android security expert like jcase would miss the fact that you could just change a few numbers to get the bootloader unlocked...
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Also strange than an "android security expert" did not come up with the root method developed by @CrashXXL. Not knocking jcase at all, he does very fine work but there are lots of things that so called experts do not figure out otherwise they would be working for the major carriers to keep people like you and I from being able to root our phones or unlock our bootloaders.
Also, there are lots of things that I have accomplished with the different phones I have had that were the result of the efforts of developers and also non developers. And some things I just researched and learned how to do and some things with android I just figured out how to do through much trial and error. And that is my point. Some things concerning development are not learned except through trial and error. I won't knock @DROID_4_UsEr. At least he is trying, which is more than I can say for the carriers and the "experts", who have given up on KitKat 4.4.4.

Touche'
I stand corrected, the last thing I want to do is stop someone from trying something new and even maybe learning something! Sorry, maybe I was a bit cranky this morning because my bootloader i still locked
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stealthllama said:
Touche'
I stand corrected, the last thing I want to do is stop someone from trying something new and even maybe learning something! Sorry, maybe I was a bit cranky this morning because my bootloader i still locked
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Backstory: I had an unlocked Maxx last week and I broke it.....the replacement is 4.4.4
I am feeling a little salty lol

stealthllama said:
Touche'
I stand corrected, the last thing I want to do is stop someone from trying something new and even maybe learning something! Sorry, maybe I was a bit cranky this morning because my bootloader i still locked
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Backstory: I had an unlocked Maxx last week and I broke it.....the replacement is 4.4.4
I am feeling a little salty lol
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Thanks. I appreciate your humility. And I understand. I am ticked also that 4.4.4 is like Fort Knox. On serious lockdown.
4.4.2 was easily rootable and unlockable. And then came 4.4.4. So believe me, I feel your pain.

stealthllama said:
Would be strange that an android security expert like jcase would miss the fact that you could just change a few numbers to get the bootloader unlocked...
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Well it turns out that there Qfuse and that is a hard security to break into. Hopefully somebody takes my idea into consideration and makes an exploit. Or I might just have to do it my self. Jcase has abandon the Droid Maxx bootloader. So anything you have questions about should be told to him about the bootloader project for the Maxx. I've asked him on the Network nodes about it and he told me they have paused the Maxx project. And focusing there attention to Htc devices for now ?

DROID_4_UsEr said:
Well it turns out that there Qfuse and that is a hard security to break into. Hopefully somebody takes my idea into consideration and makes an exploit. Or I might just have to do it my self. Jcase has abandon the Droid Maxx bootloader. So anything you have questions about should be told to him about the bootloader project for the Maxx. I've asked him on the Network nodes about it and he told me they have paused the Maxx project. And focusing there attention to Htc devices for now
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I guess it makes sense that they are pausing work on the MAXX project. What I really need to do moving forward is do more research before I purchase my next phone. I used to never take these things into consideration when choosing and mostly looked at specs, price, etc..

stealthllama said:
I guess it makes sense that they are pausing work on the MAXX project. What I really need to do moving forward is do more research before I purchase my next phone. I used to never take these things into consideration when choosing and mostly looked at specs, price, etc..
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I don't think the devs are going to give any more attention to the original droid maxx what with the droid maxx 2 making it's debut tomorrow. This is now a more than two year old phone and I think it has been given up on by the developers, who seem to be moving on to the newer phones, and understandably so.
With Marshmallow now here, 4.4.4 is considered a dinosaur and probably has been abandoned.
It is better to purchase an already unlocked phone, which is what I intend to do.
Then I don't have to wait ages at the mercy of the carrier for root/bootloader unlock.

classic757 said:
I don't think the devs are going to give any more attention to the original droid maxx what with the droid maxx 2 making it's debut tomorrow. This is now a more than two year old phone and I think it has been given up on by the developers, who seem to be moving on to the newer phones, and understandably so.
With Marshmallow now here, 4.4.4 is considered a dinosaur and probably has been abandoned.
It is better to purchase an already unlocked phone, which is what I intend to do.
Then I don't have to wait ages at the mercy of the carrier for root/bootloader unlock.
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If only I could upgrade to a dev edition directly from Verizon for my next phone
I am not sure if that is possible. I have been thinking about getting off of Verizon, I would definitely have more options. There are a lot of new phones out there by smaller companies that would be great to play with, just not possible on Verizon. As an example, maybe one of those OnePlus 2's. I can't post the link but just do a search for it. Looks pretty snazzy.

One Click Root?

Hey Im getting the Moto X Pure Editon and I was wondering if there are any viable one click root methods, or a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. I have read that one certain (very questionable) method that XDA is against (and rightly so) can be used, but I have no plans on going that route. Im certainly not new to unlocking a bootloader and am not against it. Ive had the original Moto X Developer Edition, and currently have the Nexus 6, but the whole void the warranty deal I would like to avoid if at all possible. If I could get root and use titanium backup and ad free I could be fine with that. That being said is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. And is there something like on the old Droid Razr where you could install a recovery while the bootloader is still locked. Yes I know google is my friend and I have looked but haven't seen anything. So my assumption is I will probably have to unlock the bootloader. But I did want to ask before I jumped and unlocked it, because if anyone would know I know I could find out on here.

pacman377 said:
Hey Im getting the Moto X Pure Editon and I was wondering if there are any viable one click root methods, or a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. I have read that one certain (very questionable) method that XDA is against (and rightly so) can be used, but I have no plans on going that route. Im certainly not new to unlocking a bootloader and am not against it. Ive had the original Moto X Developer Edition, and currently have the Nexus 6, but the whole void the warranty deal I would like to avoid if at all possible. If I could get root and use titanium backup and ad free I could be fine with that. That being said is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. And is there something like on the old Droid Razr where you could install a recovery while the bootloader is still locked. Yes I know google is my friend and I have looked but haven't seen anything. So my assumption is I will probably have to unlock the bootloader. But I did want to ask before I jumped and unlocked it, because if anyone would know I know I could find out on here.
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No, no one has developed a method to root without unlocking the bootlader and i doubt there will be one anytime soon(if ever since it's so easy and is an unlocked phone)

Ok thank you.

pizzlewizzle said:
No, no one has developed a method to root without unlocking the bootlader and i doubt there will be one anytime soon(if ever since it's so easy and is an unlocked phone)
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With the hassles Motorola gives people trying to get warranty support after unlocking the bootloader, it would actually be quite beneficial.

Unlocking bootloader does not void warranty completely!!! Software issues caused by the user are indeed not under warrenty anymore. Hardware related issues are.. I had 2 times screen blemishes and both times my screen got replaced for free. Great service from motorola.

bartjeh1991 said:
Unlocking bootloader does not void warranty completely!!! Software issues caused by the user are indeed not under warrenty anymore. Hardware related issues are.. I had 2 times screen blemishes and both times my screen got replaced for free. Great service from motorola.
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Ok I have done that with other phones but I had read mixed results concerning the Moto X Pure. So if it is hardware related Motorola will honor the warrenty, software your SOL. But software we can always reflash the stock system and all.

pacman377 said:
Ok I have done that with other phones but I had read mixed results concerning the Moto X Pure. So if it is hardware related Motorola will honor the warrenty, software your SOL. But software we can always reflash the stock system and all.
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If you unlock boot loader ur self. Theres a oneclick root app calles kingroot they quote they can root amy phone its one of those china made apps and closed source, id only use ir if your that desperate. Also they install there own version of supersu.. but theres a way to remove it just.google it..

Kingroot doesn't work. At least it didn't on mine. Only way I've found is either systemless or toolkit if you're on lollipop

Jay794 said:
Kingroot doesn't work. At least it didn't on mine. Only way I've found is either systemless or toolkit if you're on lollipop
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well i found this https://www.search4roots.com/how-to-easily-root-moto-x-style-marshmallow-6-0-1/

StreetkillnHD said:
well i found this https://www.search4roots.com/how-to-easily-root-moto-x-style-marshmallow-6-0-1/
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I'd stick with the tested and tried methods. One click options have the potential for opening the doorway to unwanted content.....
Chainfire's supersu has been around for a long time.

Unlocking the bootloader is a must if you want to root on this phone... ATM anyway and I doubt it will change. I used to think one click root was the way to go too but once again, there are potentially many things that can go wrong so knowing the tried and true manual ways is always best. Knowing how to recover from botched attempts has allowed me to bring my phone back from soft bricks several times.
Sent from my awesome phone!