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Why Root?

OK. First let me say I am not a total noob. I go back to the original droid and up to the LGG2 in rooted every device. It was, in part, due to Verizon being so dang slow to update their devices. Now, though, I am finding no real reason to root. Transparent bars are not enough for me to do it Every person I find who roots the G2 has some issue. ART crashes some phones. Others have call issues. This or that will not function. Yes it fun to play with new things, but is it worth it? I am sure there will be people that will say they have zero issues but from what I am reading, I find it hard to believe they have zero.
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I have no issues related to being rooted. Now most ROMs I've tried have their fair share of bugs, but that's part of the gamble you take a with a phone as new as this. Give it half a year and most of the things developed for the G2 will be ironed out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.

Vepaot said:
I have no issues related to being rooted. Now most ROMs I've tried have their fair share of bugs, but that's part of the gamble you take a with a phone as new as this. Give it half a year and most of the things developed for the G2 will be ironed out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I agree in part, but even after they are worked out you will normally find issues, even if minor, in the best of Roms. I point to Cyanogen just as an example. They are a great group with a quality ROM. Release candidates are super stable, but will have an issue or two. They also solo not have all the new stuff people crave like a nightly will have. But with nightlies you get instability. Please guys, I know everyone is going to jump in and say how great their favorite ROM is. That is not the point of my comments. I do not care what ROM you have. There is going to be a bug. I guess stock can be the same, but in general I am now leaning towards stock uprooted. With the LG g2 I have yet to see a feature stable enough to void warranty for. In a year from now that may change. At one time or was just a hobby. Flash and try everything. Add this, remove that. But this phone has so much stock I can no longer recommend rooting to any one. Obviously I have no issue if you do. I am just wondering what is driving people to root the G2?
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Bigralphn said:
OK. First let me say I am not a total noob. I go back to the original droid and up to the LGG2 in rooted every device. It was, in part, due to Verizon being so dang slow to update their devices. Now, though, I am finding no real reason to root. Transparent bars are not enough for me to do it Every person I find who roots the G2 has some issue. ART crashes some phones. Others have call issues. This or that will not function. Yes it fun to play with new things, but is it worth it? I am sure there will be people that will say they have zero issues but from what I am reading, I find it hard to believe they have zero.
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Titanium Backup, AdAway, Xposed
What does ART have to do with root?
edit: you should change from why root to why custom rom...and at that why AOSP based rom

It's not so much the reasons listed above though they are all good. The main reason for me to Root is to remove all the Bloatware I can off my phone. This includes apps and options. I like to get my unit down to as bare as I can and build it back up the way I want a phone to be. I got the G2 for the hardware specs and not for anything else LG or Verizon was offering me.
Plus it is fun to deal with new Roms as they are being created.
And there will never be ZERO issues with any Rom and that includes the manufacturers release. If that is so good at the time of release why would there be Updates.

rquinn19 said:
Titanium Backup, AdAway, Xposed
What does ART have to do with root?
edit: you should change from why root to why custom rom...and at that why AOSP based rom
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I suppose you are right on the why custom room. I am stock rooted on my Nexus 10 unrooted on this. With ART, it seems to be a reason people for since that is the only way to get it on most devices. That was all I was implying there. Perhaps when we finally get 4.4 ART will be available sans root
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[Q]AOSP G2 only?

Is it crazy to buy and use this phone rooted and running AOSP only. I am on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus and unlimited data. The phone now sells for $450. I love AOSP, but being on Verizon the closet that I can get is continuing with my rooted Galaxy Nexus or buying a Moto X or Razr to get as close to stock as possible. The hardware of the G2 is better than both, yet I do not like LG's version of Android. My thought is buy this phone root and install AOSP immediately. Is that crazy or am I talking to just talking to the other inmates in the asylum?

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Is it crazy to buy and use this phone rooted and running AOSP only. I am on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus and unlimited data. The phone now sells for $450. I love AOSP, but being on Verizon the closet that I can get is continuing with my rooted Galaxy Nexus or buying a Moto X or Razr to get as close to stock as possible. The hardware of the G2 is better than both, yet I do not like LG's version of Android. My thought is buy this phone root and install AOSP immediately. Is that crazy or am I talking to just talking to the other inmates in the asylum?
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Thats why im getting it....

david279 said:
Thats why im getting it....
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Ahh, I fellow inmate. So your plan is to use it rooted only as well? How soon after you receive the device before you root and which rom are you looking to install?

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Ahh, I fellow inmate. So your plan is to use it rooted only as well? How soon after you receive the device before you root and which rom are you looking to install?
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Im gonna root it day one and run CM11. Im on sprint so i could have took the easy route with a n5 but I like to do some tinkering so here i go.

Stock didn't last a single day on mine. I bought with the intention of flashing custom ROMs.

david279 said:
Thats why im getting it....
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JRJ442 said:
Stock didn't last a single day on mine. I bought with the intention of flashing custom ROMs.
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It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.

DroidQ said:
It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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Some have issues getting ROMs to flash on the 12B for VZW update. But over time all the ROMs will have that fixed. The ROM community seem to have most of the bugs fixed or they're working on fixing them. I'd say give some a try.

DroidQ said:
It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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I have a Verizon G2 as well, lasted maybe an hour before I rooted and installed a ROM. Most of the big issues with 4.4.2 ROMs have been fixed (or are very close to being fixed). Favorite 4.4.2 ROMs so far are OSE, Beanstock and Mahdi. They all run smooth and have lots of customization options! Ayysir's PAEK Kernel runs great on these ROMs too! Will allow you to overclock/underclock the processor.

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I have a Verizon G2 as well, lasted maybe an hour before I rooted and installed a ROM. Most of the big issues with 4.4.2 ROMs have been fixed (or are very close to being fixed). Favorite 4.4.2 ROMs so far are OSE, Beanstock and Mahdi. They all run smooth and have lots of customization options! Ayysir's PAEK Kernel runs great on these ROMs too! Will allow you to overclock/underclock the processor.
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This is good to hear. It sounds like G2 is the next best thing to having a Nexus on Verizon. At least I know I am not crazy or at least no alone in wanted to root and rom immediately.

I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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DHM078 said:
I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I was hoping to hear. The battery and camera are hard to ignore especially when they are two of my biggest issues with my Galaxy Nexus. Hardware you cannot change, but software.... I will check out PA, CM and the other AOSP options available. I guess I better research and prepare for 12B just in case it is already updated.

I'm a huge AOSP fanboy. The reason I bought the G2 (Verizon) was because of the availability of ASOP ROMs. With that said, I've fallen in love with the stock LG ROM. Once you debloat and add some modifications (I suggest G2 Xposed) you have a stock looking ROM that runs fast and bug free. Despite fantastic efforts from our talented developers, you're going to run into bugs and other quirks with custom ROMs. With the stock ROM things just work.
Regardless of what you do, you'll really enjoy this phone. Welcome to the club.

When I bought mine it was already rooted and flashed with CM11. I purchased it from swappa that way. I actually recently loaded up stock just to test it and stock is so feature packed. I threw on nova launcher and an icon pack wow. Phone is such a beast on stock.
I told the guy to ship it with cm11 I'm a huge aosp fanboy but stock is good.
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kennypow3rs said:
When I bought mine it was already rooted and flashed with CM11. I purchased it from swappa that way. I actually recently loaded up stock just to test it and stock is so feature packed. I threw on nova launcher and an icon pack wow. Phone is such a beast on stock.
I told the guy to ship it with cm11 I'm a huge aosp fanboy but stock is good.
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I'm a huge AOSP fanboy. The reason I bought the G2 (Verizon) was because of the availability of ASOP ROMs. With that said, I've fallen in love with the stock LG ROM. Once you debloat and add some modifications (I suggest G2 Xposed) you have a stock looking ROM that runs fast and bug free. Despite fantastic efforts from our talented developers, you're going to run into bugs and other quirks with custom ROMs. With the stock ROM things just work.
Regardless of what you do, you'll really enjoy this phone. Welcome to the club.
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What bothers me the about stock is the notification shade and how cluttered it appears and no multitasking soft key. I would try stock with minor tweaks if I could fix those issues.

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What bothers me the about stock is the notification shade and how cluttered it appears and no multitasking soft key. I would try stock with minor tweaks if I could fix those issues.
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I hear what you're saying. Which is why G2 Xposed is so fantastic. Check out my screenshots. First is with one finger swipe down. Second is with two fingers. Also note the inclusion of a multitasking button in place of the menu button LG included in stock. Not trying to change your mind. To each his own. Just trying to convey the message, from one AOSP cult follower to another, that the LG stock ROM is actually pretty useful.
G2 Xposed thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477586

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I hear what you're saying. Which is why G2 Xposed is so fantastic. Check out my screenshots. First is with one finger swipe down. Second is with two fingers. Also note the inclusion of a multitasking button in place of the menu button LG included in stock. Not trying to change your mind. To each his own. Just trying to convey the message, from one AOSP cult follower to another, that the LG stock ROM is actually pretty useful.
G2 Xposed thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477586
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Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?

DHM078 said:
I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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I wanted to reply in this thread but you did it for me. Exactly what happened with me (Intl instead of Verizon).

DroidQ said:
Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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Rear buttons are fine. I actually prefer the layout now. They're weird at first, but in less than a day you'll be used to them. Plus the knock on/off feature means you won't use them much anyway.

DroidQ said:
Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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Rear keys are still borked, but Knock-On I never use the power button and I've always let Tasker manage my volume levels.
I used stock for one day just to check the phone out, used AOKP 4.3 since. Works great.

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Rear buttons are fine. I actually prefer the layout now. They're weird at first, but in less than a day you'll be used to them. Plus the knock on/off feature means you won't use them much anyway.
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Rear keys are still borked, but Knock-On I never use the power button and I've always let Tasker manage my volume levels.
I used stock for one day just to check the phone out, used AOKP 4.3 since. Works great.
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Sounds like 'to each their own...' regarding the rear keys, yet they do not appear to be a deal breaker or keeping you from enjoying the phone.
I recently read a review that praised the hardware, yet cursed the software. They even commented that this phone is probably better for people who root phones. I am looking forward to doing so.

Considering a LG g2 but have questions.

I have been searching this forum for the last couple days and have found conflicting information for my questions, so please understand I realize they have been answered elsewhere, but I'm still not clear on a couple things. I'm upgrading from a droid razr so I've been out of current tech for a bit, I've rooted and am currently running kitkat, but I'd like to get with the times, and the G2 seems to have great specs and the size screen I'd like. Basically I have 2 questions.
1. It appears there is no such thing as root in kitkat, will that always be the case due to changes in KK?
2. Is there other methods for running root apps and custom roms/recoveries? Cause I'm gonna miss that a lot if there is not.
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There is root and recovery for every lg g2 model other than verizon on kitkat I think, you just need to root and install recovery before you upgrade to kitkat after that it is just to flash everything you want
You can visit a custom stock (lg ui) 4.4.2 rom site like cloudystock if you want more info about how to do it, it is easy

Ah, but I'm on Verizon.
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Ah, but I'm on Verizon.
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Then you have to wait untill verizon release their kitkat upgrade before the dev's can do anything I think..

I don't think there is a kitkat update for Verizon yet as usual if they did they are with sprint slow at updates I don't think they released an ota I may be wrong
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I don't think there is a kitkat update for Verizon yet as usual if they did they are with sprint slow at updates I don't think they released an ota I may be wrong
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Don't think they have, they are the only one who haven't released kitkat yet

The Verizon lg g2 (vs980) is a great device cm is somewhat buggy and really buggy if you flash a custom kernel on cm 11 right now its pretty stable its a kernel called furnace oh and nice a droid RAZR I had an atrix 2 which is the Att version of the droid RAZR I'm guessing you have bmm or safestrap with kexec ROMs I miss my atrix 2 I love those old phones a lot,you will like the g2 its very fast good battery life you might wanna get one soon kk ota will be out soon it might make the g2 not be able to have custom ROMs for awhile
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So, if it's not on kitkat yet I can root? Or there still isn't a root method for VZW version?
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With cm you will definitely wanna flash a custom kernel auto correct screwed up
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I have LG G2 but oppo find 7 is the best and works for all networks including LTE for atat T-Mobile etc .. But only if you buy your phones full price

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The Verizon lg g2 (vs980) is a great device cm is somewhat buggy and really buggy if you flash a custom kernel on cm 11 right now its pretty stable its a kernel called furnace oh and nice a droid RAZR I had an atrix 2 which is the Att version of the droid RAZR I'm guessing you have bmm or safestrap with kexec ROMs I miss my atrix 2 I love those old phones a lot,you will like the g2 its very fast good battery life you might wanna get one soon kk ota will be out soon it might make the g2 not be able to have custom ROMs for awhile
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Yeah, I'm hoping to grab one on ebay in the next couple weeks. I've been doing the safestrap/bmm and kexec thing so long I'm kinda nervous about stepping away from the moto scene into something new. Thanks for the answers. I found a thread today for a 4.2 root method. So I'm gonna keep reading up on things here.
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With the G3 and a million better new phones either already announced and on the way, or coming soon... I'd wait. I just got a G2 2 weeks ago, but only because my S4 died on me. So I used my son's upgrade for the G2, I'll give it to him in a month or 2 when the G3 comes out and I upgrade my line

Make sure that it has 4.2 and tell the seller not to update it because you will have to downgrade it to get root which lg has the worse flash utility ever trust me rsd lite is a million times better if you ever have to flash back you will miss rsd lite a lot PS I came from a Motorola to my moto finally crapped out
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With the G3 and a million better new phones either already announced and on the way, or coming soon... I'd wait. I just got a G2 2 weeks ago, but only because my S4 died on me. So I used my son's upgrade for the G2, I'll give it to him in a month or 2 when the G3 comes out and I upgrade my line
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I'm not upgrading with a new contract. I'm still milking my unlimited data and I don't feel like giving it up. So any brand new phones hitting the market will be out of my price range. That's one big reason I'm looking at the g2, value per dollar.
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joshxdroid said:
I'm not upgrading with a new contract. I'm still milking my unlimited data and I don't feel like giving it up. So any brand new phones hitting the market will be out of my price range. That's one big reason I'm looking at the g2, value per dollar.
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definately value per dollar, plus innovative features.
send from the jungle

Well, I ordered my LG G2 today
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Congrats.
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joshxdroid said:
Well, I ordered my LG G2 today
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I am right there with you. I have a GS3 and was not interested in the GS5, but the features of the G2. I know it's not cutting edge but with all the reviews and comments it's certainly a nice upgrade from what I have and the window case functionality is just what I really wanted. Toss some KitKat on there Verizon and I'll be VERY pleased.

XT1644 unable to get any Custom ROMs to boot

I have owned my XT-1644 (US version, apparently there is another version) since my charging port went in my Moto X Pure Edition.
I have been able to get (1) custom unofficial CM13 build from 8/23. I have tried every ROM, even ones without threads. I am constantly getting stuck at boot animation on every single ROM.
1)Are there others with this issue?
2)Any "US spec" XT1644(S) booting without issues?
3) Unfortunately the HD went in the laptop I was using, thankfully after unlocking bootloader and rooting, so I can't help with logs....
Any input would be greatly appreciated...

Same here, luckily xposed and gravitybox do almost everything I need. I'll hopefully be selling this phone in a few days anyways.

954wrecker said:
Same here, luckily xposed and gravitybox do almost everything I need. I'll hopefully be selling this phone in a few days anyways.
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So it isn't just me, Ok, I thought it was Me or my device. I am waiting for a new charging port and front glass for my Moto X Pure. It's just gonna take some time...I hope.

DJTeeJay said:
So it isn't just me, Ok, I thought it was Me or my device. I am waiting for a new charging port and front glass for my Moto X Pure. It's just gonna take some time...I hope.
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Same problem(s) here. Kind of disappointing honestly. My old moto g3 has better community ROM support than my new g4+ :/

QUEW1134 said:
Same problem(s) here. Kind of disappointing honestly. My old moto g3 has better community ROM support than my new g4+ :/
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You need to Remember, the G3 was out for a year, G4 a couple months. Development will get there. Ive been working with the devs for our model...

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QUEW1134 said:
Same problem(s) here. Kind of disappointing honestly. My old moto g3 has better community ROM support than my new g4+ :/[/UOTE]
You need to Remember, the G3 was out for a year, G4 a couple months. Development will get there. Ive been working with the devs for our model...
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Good point. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for your effort/help with the devs
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This is happening to me, as well. It's maddening!!

Same here with my xt1642 4/64gb. Test 3 diff. custom rom but none will boot .
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High Battery Consumption & Slow Performence

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figured it out... please delete post.
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It is usually best to leave your post and supply your solution for others... Deleting it kind of defeats the purpose of this community. Even if it was a "dumb" thing, it may save someone else from starting a new thread looking for the same answer someday.
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Sorry, didnt know.
I had a new phone with CM13, Xposed & TWRP and the phone was laggy with low battery life.
The problem was the OS. The current CM13 is a nightly version and probably not stable for daily use. at the moment
I wouldnt recommend anyone using it for the time being.
Thank you.

Reading through most of the comments of the ROMS I don't see any of them worth running without having issues... I will stay stock 6.0 24.221.4 rooted for now.
I came back to this phone hoping the development would get better. One thing nice is having TWRP back coming from the LG G4 and V10.
Still on the fence and may be returning it again... I wonder if the Moto Z Play will be a good phone...
Missing the wireless charging already. LOL
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