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I'm cured!

That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.

edufur said:
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
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+1. Though I enjoy 'modding my phone' I don't need to sacrifice stability for it. I think the only reason I would root again is for SetCPU to underclock and save battery or if some crazy app came out that Google does not plan on releasing.

htc's version of android has been reworked quite heavily to use sense, for those who dont like sense, it cant simply be stripped out and reinstalling the stock launcher leaves more problems then it solves, anyone looking for a pure android experience will jump to an asop rom as fast as possible, htc has done a great job staying on top of their phones for once but are still lagging behind xda, its the whole inch and a mile thing

edufur said:
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
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+1 I never even bothered rooting after upgrading from the Hero to the Evo on Oct. 1st. My Hero was rooted and saw its share of custom roms but I'm quite happy with stock Froyo and the newest update.
I thought I would never go back to Sense after running CM6 on my Hero and some other aosp roms but I'm back to stock with the Evo and love it. Plus my wimax works which I do use.
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om4 said:
htc's version of android has been reworked quite heavily to use sense, for those who dont like sense, it cant simply be stripped out and reinstalling the stock launcher leaves more problems then it solves, anyone looking for a pure android experience will jump to an asop rom as fast as possible, htc has done a great job staying on top of their phones for once but are still lagging behind xda, its the whole inch and a mile thing
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That's strange, I'm running a stock rooted rom with sense removed and have not experienced any force closes... Although, I must admit I feel at times like my battery drains fast and I can't help but feel like its the excess htc processes draining....
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I've been running virus Rom with no issues and one of kings kernels, I do like to use the free teathering and extra battery life
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I feel like the stock root is good. I am able to get rid of the Sprint software with root. But I like to know I am able to test new roms.
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I like the latest Sprint OTA...thanks Sprint and HTC!
That said, my wife was not rooted and started complaining because my rooted phone operated much smoother/faster than hers. BTW, even rooted, she uses ADW and no Sense.
So I ended up rooting my wife and oh boy is she happy now.

I still like playing around with roms but I've limited myself to two: MIUI (still not quite there for me but it's a beautiful rom) and Vaelpak.

firemedic1343 said:
So I ended up rooting my wife and oh boy is she happy now.
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Ha, awesome!

Debating on Rooting the S4

Im a pure n00b. I'm About to buy my first droid phone. Im very knowledgeable about iphones and the jailbreak world but I'm not sure what would be the benefit of rooting a droid phone. I've heard the droid community is pretty wide open without rooting.
What would be some benefits of rooting a phone like the samsung galaxy s4? I did see that it will allow you to tweak bluetooth to connect a ps3 controller to it wirelessly for emulators but is it anything else that XDA could share to help push me in that direction? any cool features?
Thanks in advance.

I'd say the biggest benefit from rooting is getting rid of that crap that both Samsung and AT&T put on the S4

First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
Pretty much still running the stock rom on mine, but used root to flash a mod that allows free wifi tethering and hot spot, and an extended power menu.
Flashing roms is also a big reason most people root phones. You can pick and choose what you want(touchwiz roms or aosp) and find one you like.
I wouldnt want an android phone without rooting it.
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I mainly rooted for faux's kernel which removed the launcher lag and the messaging lag that occurs sometimes. I also rooted to removed all the bloatware.

Biggest reasons to root, for me personally, are custom roms, custom kernels, debloating, backing up and restoring apps, theming, overclocking, and undervolting. These are just my reasons personally. There are literally hundreds of other things you can do as a root user that you couldnt do otherwise.
The worst case scenario of rooting being, if you really dont find the benefit for yourself personally, its pretty easy to revert back to stock unrooted. These samsung phones now are basically unbrickable and flashing is really easy, especially if youve went through jailbreaking an iphone... lol rooting a samsung device is way easier imo.
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I root for the deep-level backup capabilities, custom kernels that improve speed and battery life, Pie Control (makes navigating & using a large phone much easier), custom ROMs, mods like Hot Spot and custom themes, and deeper level security apps (firewall, find your phone, etc).

Here are the main reasons while people usually root. In no particular order.
1. Ad blocking
2. Remove unwanted apps "bloatware"
3. Custom ROMs/ advanced custom theming
4. Custom kernels and features such as nandroid backups and under/over clocking etc.
5. Tethering/free hot spot
6. Aosp ROMs
Ultimately think of rooting as taking complete control of your device. You can do pretty much anything depending on your knowledge after you are rooted.
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thanks
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.

wotandsdwys said:
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
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I was thinking the same thing..lol

How much space are you guys saving when you root and get rid of all the bloatware? How much available space is on your phone before all of your additional aps?

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djv3n0m said:
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.

jejb said:
There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.

GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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Exactly what I was going to say! Sextape always came thru on the e4gt as well. The next update would always be out before the official release. So glad to see him have stuff for the s4 as well.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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This is generally the case with OTA's, but every year it seems like rooting becomes more straight forwsrd, especially for Samsung. As for MDL it was a specific attribute added by Samsung to tighten up control on deeper root access that broke root, but it was hardly a locked bootloader or anything that severe. Re-rooting was as simple as loading a kernel and then Odining. At this point, most manufacturers are beginning to understand the benefits of the development community. Now if we can just get the carriers to "get it."
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To put it very simple I root my phone to be free and to have my phone the way I wanted it not the way a company wants me to have it
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Once you root your phone and learn all the possibilities that come along with it, you won't go back haha It's a lot of fun after knowing your stuff. reading in this forum is probably one of, if not, the best thing/s you can do

Looking to get the G2

Hello,
So I'm looking at getting the G2 for T-Mobile.
How is the Root and ROM scene coming along? It looks like there is a pretty simple and solid way to root, although it seems like only stock ROMs for now. Also I didn't see to seem a recovery thread for the TMO phone?
How soon does it look like we will start seeing the flagship ROMs? Like AOSPA, AOKP, PAC, etc. Also, with those ROMs, would it be possible to carry over some of the LG features like knock on?
Thank you in advance!

Just read a few threads and you'll get your answer.
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iytrix said:
Hello,
So I'm looking at getting the G2 for T-Mobile.
How is the Root and ROM scene coming along? It looks like there is a pretty simple and solid way to root, although it seems like only stock ROMs for now. Also I didn't see to seem a recovery thread for the TMO phone?
How soon does it look like we will start seeing the flagship ROMs? Like AOSPA, AOKP, PAC, etc. Also, with those ROMs, would it be possible to carry over some of the LG features like knock on?
Thank you in advance!
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Its like you didnt even try to read through the dev sections, there are already AOSPA, AOKP, CM and stock based ROMS all in the development section. You cannot miss them. Rooting method is clearly discussed in these threads too...
Knock on already works on these...read please.
This is an asinine OP thread...

Walter21026 said:
Its like you didnt even try to read through the dev sections, there are already AOSPA, AOKP, CM and stock based ROMS all in the development section. You cannot miss them. Rooting method is clearly discussed in these threads too...
Knock on already works on these...read please.
This is an asinine OP thread...
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I went through the threads, saw NONE of what your talking about. Went again, repeat story.
I see FOUR ROMs and ALL of them are stock rooted. Not a single other ROM.
So I go to android development, main thread there. Zero ROMs. EDIT: Found 2 modded stock in here. Both of them were in the TMO dev section already though.
Alright, original development, I see a few ROMs, none mention if they will work on tmobile.
On stuff like the CM ROM, assuming it works, no where does it say if knock on was ported/works at all, and NOTHING about the other features.
I still have no idea where you're seeing that AOSPA thread. Not in dev, original dev, or TMO dev.
Also, if you actually read what I said instead of being an assuming jerk. You'd see I said that I say the root method, and it looks pretty easy and solid. I didn't ask if it had root, or how to do it, just saying that I did find that thread, and it looked easy and like it applied to all variants of the phone.
So, why so mean? I read the forums, I found none of the answers. Then you get mad, telling me to read the forums, and again, nothing there. So apparently there is a magical forums with all these threads you are finding, and that's why I'm asking.

iytrix said:
I went through the threads, saw NONE of what your talking about. Went again, repeat story.
I see FOUR ROMs and ALL of them are stock rooted. Not a single other ROM.
So I go to android development, main thread there. Zero ROMs. EDIT: Found 2 modded stock in here. Both of them were in the TMO dev section already though.
Alright, original development, I see a few ROMs, none mention if they will work on tmobile.
On stuff like the CM ROM, assuming it works, no where does it say if knock on was ported/works at all, and NOTHING about the other features.
I still have no idea where you're seeing that AOSPA thread. Not in dev, original dev, or TMO dev.
Also, if you actually read what I said instead of being an assuming jerk. You'd see I said that I say the root method, and it looks pretty easy and solid. I didn't ask if it had root, or how to do it, just saying that I did find that thread, and it looked easy and like it applied to all variants of the phone.
So, why so mean? I read the forums, I found none of the answers. Then you get mad, telling me to read the forums, and again, nothing there. So apparently there is a magical forums with all these threads you are finding, and that's why I'm asking.
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Excuse me you did say "ROM scene" so taking all the G2 ROMs collectively, I'm putting it out there that collectively we have all these Roms already. Check the Verizon thread as well. Those Roms I was talking about are there. You wanted an answer to your "ROM scene" you got the answer. Next time choose your words more carefully. Sorry if I misunderstood you on your question here.

He did ask about T-mobile though in his op.
I believe it's just stock roms at the moment.
Rooting is solid and easy.
Great way to get rid of bloatware.
I think we just have to give it time for "other" roms to come.
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room511 said:
He did ask about T-mobile though in his op.
I believe it's just stock roms at the moment.
Rooting is solid and easy.
Great way to get rid of bloatware.
I think we just have to give it time for "other" roms to come.
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This plus a couple devs just got and or are about to get the T-Mobile G2...get the phone first. Stock is a beast anyway.
You're not going to need to do much tweaking at all because of how fast and fluid the phone comes out the box
By the time your treaty to stretch out your wings the Roms will be there waiting

tiguy99 said:
This plus a couple devs just got and or are about to get the T-Mobile G2...get the phone first. Stock is a beast anyway.
You're not going to need to do much tweaking at all because of how fast and fluid the phone comes out the box
By the time your treaty to stretch out your wings the Roms will be there waiting
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100% agreed!
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room511 said:
He did ask about T-mobile though in his op.
I believe it's just stock roms at the moment.
Rooting is solid and easy.
Great way to get rid of bloatware.
I think we just have to give it time for "other" roms to come.
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Thanks. Yeah I assumed as much but was hoping for otherwise.
Yes I was talking about T-Mobile. I thought that made sense but I could see how the other guys read it as just a general question.
I already see some decent looking stock ROMs that should hold me over until a real AOSP or CM base ROM comes out. I assume we have no ETAs on that. The optimus g (on sprint) still has pretty much ONE person porting 95% of all the ROMs. He's great at it, and updates all the ROMs weekly, but still, if he fell of the face of the earth, that phone would probably almost never get an updated ROM besides the CM builds and the one official ROM, PACman.
I got the phone yesterday....and dear god. The screen, form factor, buttons on the back....all of it is amazing. At 67% battery life and it's been running since noon yesterday. My old optimus G is at 75%....and it's been running for only 3 hours. Such an insane battery, I love it.
I am waiting to hear back from Sprint, in a battle to cancel my contract and get some discount on the ETF. I actually have a decent poor service case so we'll see how that goes. Worst case I'll just cancel the TMO plan and keep the phone until I can cancel Sprint.
I'll probably wait on rooting and using a ROM for a bit. Although I can't STAND the high DPI (on any phone really, I always have most of my apps on my other phones at 240 DPI or so) or the notification bar. Is there any non root way to change that? If not I may root today just so I can at least change the DPI and look in to the notification bar. Quick settings aren't even that bad. It's that brightness and ringer slider that I can't seem to turn off. I can't imagine why they though all this, plus qslide on by default, would be a nice experience for the user.
Most of the rest of the ROM they got right though, with some pretty nice features.
Thanks for the help, all of you!

[Q]AOSP G2 only?

Is it crazy to buy and use this phone rooted and running AOSP only. I am on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus and unlimited data. The phone now sells for $450. I love AOSP, but being on Verizon the closet that I can get is continuing with my rooted Galaxy Nexus or buying a Moto X or Razr to get as close to stock as possible. The hardware of the G2 is better than both, yet I do not like LG's version of Android. My thought is buy this phone root and install AOSP immediately. Is that crazy or am I talking to just talking to the other inmates in the asylum?

DroidQ said:
Is it crazy to buy and use this phone rooted and running AOSP only. I am on Verizon with a Galaxy Nexus and unlimited data. The phone now sells for $450. I love AOSP, but being on Verizon the closet that I can get is continuing with my rooted Galaxy Nexus or buying a Moto X or Razr to get as close to stock as possible. The hardware of the G2 is better than both, yet I do not like LG's version of Android. My thought is buy this phone root and install AOSP immediately. Is that crazy or am I talking to just talking to the other inmates in the asylum?
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Thats why im getting it....

david279 said:
Thats why im getting it....
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Ahh, I fellow inmate. So your plan is to use it rooted only as well? How soon after you receive the device before you root and which rom are you looking to install?

DroidQ said:
Ahh, I fellow inmate. So your plan is to use it rooted only as well? How soon after you receive the device before you root and which rom are you looking to install?
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Im gonna root it day one and run CM11. Im on sprint so i could have took the easy route with a n5 but I like to do some tinkering so here i go.

Stock didn't last a single day on mine. I bought with the intention of flashing custom ROMs.

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Thats why im getting it....
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JRJ442 said:
Stock didn't last a single day on mine. I bought with the intention of flashing custom ROMs.
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It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.

DroidQ said:
It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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Some have issues getting ROMs to flash on the 12B for VZW update. But over time all the ROMs will have that fixed. The ROM community seem to have most of the bugs fixed or they're working on fixing them. I'd say give some a try.

DroidQ said:
It looks like I came to the right place. Any big issues rooting and running roms? I have rooted every Android I have owned so I am accustomed to the quirks that it may bring. Just wanted to know if there are any big things to aware of.
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I have a Verizon G2 as well, lasted maybe an hour before I rooted and installed a ROM. Most of the big issues with 4.4.2 ROMs have been fixed (or are very close to being fixed). Favorite 4.4.2 ROMs so far are OSE, Beanstock and Mahdi. They all run smooth and have lots of customization options! Ayysir's PAEK Kernel runs great on these ROMs too! Will allow you to overclock/underclock the processor.

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I have a Verizon G2 as well, lasted maybe an hour before I rooted and installed a ROM. Most of the big issues with 4.4.2 ROMs have been fixed (or are very close to being fixed). Favorite 4.4.2 ROMs so far are OSE, Beanstock and Mahdi. They all run smooth and have lots of customization options! Ayysir's PAEK Kernel runs great on these ROMs too! Will allow you to overclock/underclock the processor.
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This is good to hear. It sounds like G2 is the next best thing to having a Nexus on Verizon. At least I know I am not crazy or at least no alone in wanted to root and rom immediately.

I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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DHM078 said:
I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I was hoping to hear. The battery and camera are hard to ignore especially when they are two of my biggest issues with my Galaxy Nexus. Hardware you cannot change, but software.... I will check out PA, CM and the other AOSP options available. I guess I better research and prepare for 12B just in case it is already updated.

I'm a huge AOSP fanboy. The reason I bought the G2 (Verizon) was because of the availability of ASOP ROMs. With that said, I've fallen in love with the stock LG ROM. Once you debloat and add some modifications (I suggest G2 Xposed) you have a stock looking ROM that runs fast and bug free. Despite fantastic efforts from our talented developers, you're going to run into bugs and other quirks with custom ROMs. With the stock ROM things just work.
Regardless of what you do, you'll really enjoy this phone. Welcome to the club.

When I bought mine it was already rooted and flashed with CM11. I purchased it from swappa that way. I actually recently loaded up stock just to test it and stock is so feature packed. I threw on nova launcher and an icon pack wow. Phone is such a beast on stock.
I told the guy to ship it with cm11 I'm a huge aosp fanboy but stock is good.
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kennypow3rs said:
When I bought mine it was already rooted and flashed with CM11. I purchased it from swappa that way. I actually recently loaded up stock just to test it and stock is so feature packed. I threw on nova launcher and an icon pack wow. Phone is such a beast on stock.
I told the guy to ship it with cm11 I'm a huge aosp fanboy but stock is good.
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I'm a huge AOSP fanboy. The reason I bought the G2 (Verizon) was because of the availability of ASOP ROMs. With that said, I've fallen in love with the stock LG ROM. Once you debloat and add some modifications (I suggest G2 Xposed) you have a stock looking ROM that runs fast and bug free. Despite fantastic efforts from our talented developers, you're going to run into bugs and other quirks with custom ROMs. With the stock ROM things just work.
Regardless of what you do, you'll really enjoy this phone. Welcome to the club.
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What bothers me the about stock is the notification shade and how cluttered it appears and no multitasking soft key. I would try stock with minor tweaks if I could fix those issues.

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What bothers me the about stock is the notification shade and how cluttered it appears and no multitasking soft key. I would try stock with minor tweaks if I could fix those issues.
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I hear what you're saying. Which is why G2 Xposed is so fantastic. Check out my screenshots. First is with one finger swipe down. Second is with two fingers. Also note the inclusion of a multitasking button in place of the menu button LG included in stock. Not trying to change your mind. To each his own. Just trying to convey the message, from one AOSP cult follower to another, that the LG stock ROM is actually pretty useful.
G2 Xposed thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477586

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I hear what you're saying. Which is why G2 Xposed is so fantastic. Check out my screenshots. First is with one finger swipe down. Second is with two fingers. Also note the inclusion of a multitasking button in place of the menu button LG included in stock. Not trying to change your mind. To each his own. Just trying to convey the message, from one AOSP cult follower to another, that the LG stock ROM is actually pretty useful.
G2 Xposed thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477586
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Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?

DHM078 said:
I'm an AOSP guy as well, also on Verizon. I mostly prefer AOSP because I like to customize myself and it's a lot easier to do with AOSP ROMs. They're also fast and light. So I was surprised when I really liked the stock LG ROM a lot. Ran Malladus, modified stock, for a while. So maybe give it a couple days, can't hurt. But now I'm on 4.4.2, I eventually wanted my AOSP. I'd say go for it. If you just want stable AOSP, Paranoid Android is a solid bet. It's not full of all the PA features yet. It ran rock solid for me. But even the feature/customization packed Beanstalk ROM I'm running now has been solid. And I'm sure it'll get even better once official 4.4 comes out and brings along updated proprietary stuff. I agree with you, it's the best bet on Verizon right now. I like the Moto X but the G2's camera, screen and battery life blow it out of the water. And I feel like it's a lot more future proof. As others have said 12B can be quirky, there are some modified recovery builds in the Verizon board that may help, I haven't looked at them recently as I rooted from 12A. If you get it and it's on 12A, it may be worth not taking the update just to avoid any issues, although I'm sure they'll be ironed out soon. You can always flash the 12B radio on your own if you want it.
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I wanted to reply in this thread but you did it for me. Exactly what happened with me (Intl instead of Verizon).

DroidQ said:
Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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Rear buttons are fine. I actually prefer the layout now. They're weird at first, but in less than a day you'll be used to them. Plus the knock on/off feature means you won't use them much anyway.

DroidQ said:
Interesting....It appears as if I may have more options than I thought. I am a sucker for AOSP, but I may try stock. Thanks for the info. It almost appears like it gives G2 owners the best of both worlds. Stock, modified stock and AOSP.
Now how are those rear keys?
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Rear keys are still borked, but Knock-On I never use the power button and I've always let Tasker manage my volume levels.
I used stock for one day just to check the phone out, used AOKP 4.3 since. Works great.

Rodeojones said:
Rear buttons are fine. I actually prefer the layout now. They're weird at first, but in less than a day you'll be used to them. Plus the knock on/off feature means you won't use them much anyway.
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khaytsus said:
Rear keys are still borked, but Knock-On I never use the power button and I've always let Tasker manage my volume levels.
I used stock for one day just to check the phone out, used AOKP 4.3 since. Works great.
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Sounds like 'to each their own...' regarding the rear keys, yet they do not appear to be a deal breaker or keeping you from enjoying the phone.
I recently read a review that praised the hardware, yet cursed the software. They even commented that this phone is probably better for people who root phones. I am looking forward to doing so.

[Q] KitKat and Custom Roms

Sorry if this has been covered, I didn't really see much on this. Per my request, my work just ordered me a Note 3 and of course I don't have the ability to leave it alone. I won't have it until next week but I assume it will have Jellybean on it still? Are there any stable roms that are based on KitKat for this phone? Any word on a formal release of KitKat? With the help of a better launcher, I might try and keep this one stock for now, but who knows.
Right now I have an S3 running the Beanstalk 4.4 rom based on 4.4.2 which I absolutely love. The phone is very fast and stable. As I mentioned, this is a work phone (which doubles as a personal phone) so I can't sacrifice stability since I rely on the phone every day. Another reason why the phone might stay stock if I can get the formal KitKat release on it...
Looking at case options as well. Anyone running this case?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DCIZJ5S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2SFKRF5TPZMT5

Exact case I have except in red. Love it! Nothing known on kit kat yet though.
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ginger man said:
Exact case I have except in red. Love it! Nothing known on kit kat yet though.
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I'm glad the case is good. I'll have it tomorrow. I really hope they release KitKat soon, I hate taking a step backwards.
On another subject, I just pre-ordered my wife an AT&T GS5 today!