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Hello everyone
I have a simple question.
What choose between nexus 4 and Oppo find 5?
I like Oppo find 5 for its camera and audio
But nexus is nexus
Fen24 said:
Hello everyone
I have a simple question.
What choose between nexus 4 and Oppo find 5?
I like Oppo find 5 for its camera and audio
But nexus is nexus
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Your simple question requires a quite long answer. If you're looking for a technical comparison you can look at a site like gsmarena.
I haven't had a Nexus 4 but from what I've heard the screen on the Find 5 is better. It's running full-HD instead of 1280x720, which makes it sharper, and the feel and response is just astonishing. From what I've heard the Nexus 4 has felt a bit faster and smoother, but that source is from before a few updates on the Find 5.
If you google around I'm sure you will find more details about software differences on these phones, but if you look at the hardware of these phones it feels like the Find 5 has the upper hand.
Better:
Screen
Camera
Build quality
(Subjective, but for me: ) Design
Storage
Battery
Same:
CPU
No 4G
RAM
Worse:
Out-of-the-box software, but when you're in xda you likely wont be using it
Price, but little difference when you're in europe
The hardware is without a doubt better on Oppo.
But i think that the community around the Nexus is the best.
developers will be interested to Oppo?
I don’t succeed to decide
I can buy a Oppo for 399 Euro vs Nexus 4 for 349 Euro.
Fen24 said:
The hardware is without a doubt better on Oppo.
But i think that the community around the Nexus is the best.
developers will be interested to Oppo?
I don’t succeed to decide
I can buy a Oppo for 399 Euro vs Nexus 4 for 349 Euro.
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It's actually 399 vs 359 (Google wants ~10 for shipping).
For me, the ~40 bucks difference alone is worth the far superior display and in my subjective view the design and built-quality - plus I like to support "underdogs".
As far as software goes, the Find 5 is one of the view non-Nexus devices getting official support from Paranoid, plus there is CM & PAC and a few other ones, not to forget Oppo keeps it's stock ROM updated very regularly so far (currently at least once per month).
The big question is, do you really really need Android updates the first day and thus maybe also getting severe overlooked bugs or can you live waiting a little longer, but getting the features of CM/PA/AOKP/etc? If you intend to keep stock Android, the Nexus is the obvious choice, but if you're interested at all in other ROMS, the little money extra for the Find5 is well worth it, imho.
Fen24 said:
The hardware is without a doubt better on Oppo.
But i think that the community around the Nexus is the best.
developers will be interested to Oppo?
I don’t succeed to decide
I can buy a Oppo for 399 Euro vs Nexus 4 for 349 Euro.
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I think you will be happy whichever device you choose. When you ask this question in this part of xda I think the answer always will be the Find 5, since we all got it. But anyways, I chose between these two devices before i decided to go with the Oppo. I didn't have any way of seeing the Find 5 (in real life) before I bought it, and I still chose it mainly because:
The Design
The Screen (I knew it was good from reviews)
Oppo's spirit of being very open to modding
The fact that not many have it in Sweden (or Europe). I guess the feeling to be hipster is quite tempting.
So, to sum it up I would like to recommend you into paying those few extra euros for getting the Find 5. You won't be dissapointed.
Rydberg1 said:
I think you will be happy whichever device you choose. When you ask this question in this part of xda I think the answer always will be the Find 5, since we all got it. But anyways, I chose between these two devices before i decided to go with the Oppo. I didn't have any way of seeing the Find 5 (in real life) before I bought it, and I still chose it mainly because:
The Design
The Screen (I knew it was good from reviews)
Oppo's spirit of being very open to modding
The fact that not many have it in Sweden (or Europe). I guess the feeling to be hipster is quite tempting.
So, to sum it up I would like to recommend you into paying those few extra euros for getting the Find 5. You won't be dissapointed.
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Thank you, everybody
Having just ordered a 32gb Find 5 I had the same question. Except I had experience of the Nexus 4 as my wife recently got it to replace her Note 1.
From setting it up for her, I must say it's an excellent phone for the money and unbelievably smooth. She loves it despite the drop in screen size (the dpi is greatly improved).
For me though, used to an Note 2, I'm interested in the IPS 1080 screen, build quality, and perhaps above all, that it's not mainstream. Plus the community around it sounds good.
The price is good albeit not as low N4 but the screen and design is worth the extra. I also found dropping to 4.7 inch screen a bit too much from the 5.55 Note 2. I'm hoping the 5 is the sweet spot whilst still being easy to use with one hand.
Tired of iPhone, Samsung's plastic design and Touchwiz. Oppo here I come.
-- From my N7102
Some guy is offering to trade his oppo find 5 for my Nexus 4. What should I do? I looked around and it seems development around here isn't as strong as the nexus 4 forums. But you find 5 people seem to love your phone.
Sent from that one guy with the cool phone
ayo234 said:
Some guy is offering to trade his oppo find 5 for my Nexus 4. What should I do? I looked around and it seems development around here isn't as strong as the nexus 4 forums. But you find 5 people seem to love your phone.
Sent from that one guy with the cool phone
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Depends on what you prefer for your needs.
I'm not surprised the N4 has strong development given it's Google's phone and older than the F5.
Personally, the larger screen and higher resolution along with the industrial design are winners for me. I also like the community and how it seems to be growing with enthusiasts.
Now, I'm just waiting for the phone to arrive.
-- From my N7102
I bought both because I couldn't decide; my Nexus got to my house a day earlier. I detested the screen, it was by far the worst mobile device I had ever had to look it. Truly disappointing. Hardware was fine, Nexus experience was great. Battery was pretty poor.
The next day my Find 5 showed up - I couldn't put it down. Gorgeous screen coming from a Note 2, fantastic battery life on CM 10 (rock solid for me), superb performance. Returned the Nexus the next day, have been using the Find 5 since. VERY happy customer.
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I bought both because I couldn't decide; my Nexus got to my house a day earlier. I detested the screen, it was by far the worst mobile device I had ever had to look it. Truly disappointing. Hardware was fine, Nexus experience was great. Battery was pretty poor.
The next day my Find 5 showed up - I couldn't put it down. Gorgeous screen coming from a Note 2, fantastic battery life on CM 10 (rock solid for me), superb performance. Returned the Nexus the next day, have been using the Find 5 since. VERY happy customer.
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Heh, the Nexus screen isn't that bad but nowhere near the Find 5. And it kills the Note 2's SAMOLED outdoors (and indoors!). Makes me want to use it more.
-- From my Find 5
I am also one of them that can't decide which one to pick Nexus 4 vs Find 5.
I did watch/read a lot of reviews, most of them are really pleased about the phone. However there are a couple of things that keep me from buying the Oppo.
I read the screen isn't scratch proof
It is quite a heavy phone in comparison with others (139g vs 165g)
I also read some negative things about the quality of the power button and the volume rocker.
Oppo vs Nexus 4 community
How fast does it charge compare with the Nexus 4
I am coming from the HTC Sensation which is 2 years old now. So as for now, i am not a user that switch phones on a regular base.
For me it is no problem to root the phone and switch to CM or Paranoid Android.
I hope you guys can convince me which to choose
I used a nexus 4 for around 5 months and decided to sell it and get an oppo find 5. I've been using this for a week now and like everyone else has said the screen is AMAZING. The feel of the phone is top notch. My advice is look at your needs. Are you looking for a phone where u are not worried about flashing roms kernels firmware etc? While the hardware is exceptional the oppo is still behind in software and it will require us as users to try out and flash different things and being patient and open minded to small hiccups along the way. The team at oppo and other devs are working extremely hard. On the other hand if your looking for something more stable and smooth straight out of the box without having to worry about and play around with all the flashing then I'd definitely recommend the nexus 4. I still miss it a lot but personally I like experimenting with the latest software releases/beta versions etc so although the oppo software is not as 'buttery' smooth as the nexus. It is the phone for me. It all comes down to u how ur thinking of using the phone. Hope that helps. Any more questions give me a shout.
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For me :
Good
a amazing FullHD Screen
32 GB Storage
amazing bulid unibody Body
Great Support of Oppo
2500mAh Battery
Qualcomm S4 Pro
2 GB Ram
Bad
:
Fimrware is a little bit buggy
No OTG (same Problem of a Nexus 4)
Same with Nexus 4
2 GB Ram
Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro
No LTE
No OTG
Thanks for the replies guys i really appreciate it.
Hello guys,
I face the same dilemma...
I also don't understand why the oppo 5 scores lower in some benchmarks like antutu, although it has a better hardware.
konstadinos said:
Hello guys,
I face the same dilemma...
I also don't understand why the oppo 5 scores lower in some benchmarks like antutu, although it has a better hardware.
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I believe you already know that benchmarks count for very little in real life.
And I must say that with my FInd 5 I had quite different results depending on the stock Oppo ROM I was using... if my memory serves me yhe best I got was the first ROM I had, one of the betas before Color ROM came along, and got scores higher than the "normal" Nexus 4.
I haven't tried benchmarking for a whie... not with the latest Color ROM, nor CM 10.1, nor Maxwen's AOKP.
I'm running CM 10.2 unoficial and just for info purposes I run Antutu v4 as I was typing and got: 18530 (between Nexus 4 and Xperia Z).
Antutu states 16793 for Nexus 4 in the comparison tables.
UPDATE: running again five minutes later got 18517
I wonder if the FullHD screen has its toll on this...
I use benchmarking just to know if everything's ok with my phone... if some part isn't malfunctioning...not to get higher or lower scores... for that I would have to overclock... :angel:
Hi Banimale,
You are right about the benchmarks, they don't totally relate to the user experience, I just found it strange.
Are you satisfied with the battery life?
Is the stock rom buggy?
Stock ROM is buggy especially regarding battery life and some minor issues. But imo it is functional and has some interesting features and customisations.
Regarding themes and ui is kind of hate it or love it...
But one can always get another rom like maxwen aokp or cm... Even cm 10.2 unofficial. Better battery life and probably something one is familiar with and doesn't start blaming oppo for missing this or having broken that...
I really like my phone!
[email protected] Find 5
Hey guys! So i've narrowed down my choices for a new phone:
Huawei Mate 7 or Xperia Z3. Both are great sexy phones but I like the larger screen, fingerprint, and less bezel on the mate 7. Both have around the same screen on time (around 10 hrs).
For Mate 7:
- Screen looks washed out compared to other flagships, Z3 gets brighter
+ Bigger screen, smaller bezels
+ Fingerprint scanner
? Kirin 925 (I've heard its worse than the 801 and has lags and micro stutters when scrolling in browser, is the phone laggy?)
For Xperia Z3:
+ Bright, colorful screen
- Smaller screen, bigger bezels
+ Front facing stereo speakers
+ Faster updates (It's nice but I don't really mind that much about updates, as long as the mate7 eventually gets lollipop)
Is there some way to adjust the colors and make it more saturated/vivid on the Mate 7? and are the reports of the Mate 7 lagging in browser etc true? Please help me decide what you would go for if you had the choice between these two
It would depend on how you would use the phone. If you are just a regular user and a non techy one. Mate7 is good enough. But keep in mind that Emui has no app drawer. Updates are slow compared to Sony. Limited custom Roms if you are in to that. I would suggest reading the owner's impressions thread to see how others like the phone and the pros and cons for them.
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Easy Computer said:
It would depend on how you would use the phone. If you are just a regular user and a non techy one. Mate7 is good enough. But keep in mind that Emui has no app drawer. Updates are slow compared to Sony. Limited custom Roms if you are in to that. I would suggest reading the owner's impressions thread to see how others like the phone and the pros and cons for them.
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Thanks. I primarily use my phone for social stuff like Facebook and Whatsapp (though barely use the camera), listening to Music, and heavy gaming, like GTA San Andreas (which i've heard runs extremely well on max settings (because of the mali GPU in the mate 7) compared to Snapdragon devices, where they lag on max,) and Asphalt 8. I don't care about updates or custom roms ever since Xposed. Can always stick an AOSP based launcher on top, and that would probably be the first thing I do if I do this device. Don't care about updates that much. My main, biggest gripe of the Huawei is the screen color saturation, they look bland compared to other flagships. Anybody figure out anything to fix that? My Nexus 4 had the same problem, but after using a custom kernel with gamma controls the screen just felt like something else completely. I got spoiled by the beautifully saturated colors of my N4 after calibration, and don't want a bland screen. The Z3 is better in this regard - its not the most saturated screen but its miles better than the mate 7 in that regard. Why can't Huawei calibrate their screens properly out of the box!
Colors are great, Screen doesn't look washed at all. First go and see the phone live in a showroom.
The phone it's not laggy.
But if you are a heavy gamer don't expect to get 10 hours screen on time with neither one. 5-6 hours maybe, and with brightness set on auto.
8 hours screen on time it't the best that I got with mate7( dual sim version).
Sony are not quick to update their phones also, just one month ago they updated z3 to lolipop.
The warmth/colour tone can be adjusted via settings slider
Screen is excellent, my last phone was a z2
roy8846 said:
The warmth/colour tone can be adjusted via settings slider
Screen is excellent, my last phone was a z2
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I saw the Mate 7 irl for some reason I think it was washed out... maybe it's just my imagination :silly: i'll try to check it out again in a store
In all honesty wait for Mate 8 it will be released soon most likely.
And also I heard news today that Note 5 most likely will be released in July too...
Mate 7 will most likely drop even more in price for that reason It might be attractive for some though.
It still a good phone for the price.
If you wait for a bit more... You can get almost all of the last years flagships for less after july or august.
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Please tell me after Note 5 and mate 8 and D8 what the hell other devices are worth waiting for ?
as what I know there are known.. unless you want an iphone 6s
The reason Note 5 will be released more early is that they want to get it out before Iphone 6s the big version.
Also Samsung have said the development has gone faster the expected with Note 5.
Do you mean paper releases like oneplus1 ?
or the new bezelless oppo find ?
Easy Computer said:
If you wait for a bit more... You can get almost all of the last years flagships for less after july or august.
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The prices have already come down enough for them to be in my price range for all of last year's flagships, so that doesn't matter to me anymore. Its just these three phones which I have narrowed it down to because of my personal preferences
If some sort of confirmation or leak about a huawei nexus, or mate 8 or oneplus two gets released by the end of June then I think i'll wait if I like, otherwise i'll just take one of these phones, because right now i've been with a Lenovo A706 (some cheap budget android phone that came free with my new laptop) because my nexus 4 crapped out on me a year ago, and this lenovo is horrendously slow, bad battery life bad everything basically :laugh:
Note 5 (and iPhone 6/6S) will be too expensive for my price range (my price range is ~1700 AED), and I haven't liked Samsung's designs since the S2/Galaxy Nexus, because of the colored, pattern bezels, (just want deep black) which is also the main reason why I won't consider the Note 4, even though it has better specs overall (and that LOVELY amoled screen) and is in my price range. I'm very picky with my devices, because I only change once every 3-4 years.
This poll is to determine and estimate how much the new nexus (2016) is anticipated in nexus 6 community.
Used to be YES! But not if the front speakers are gone. Sticking with n6.... Looking at ZTE axon 7 as bootloader is unlocked and twrp plus good hw and cheaper price, good speakers seems worth a better look.
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I see moving to a 5.5" screen as a downgrade.
After spending the price of two laptops on my N6 (£549) I expect it to last more than a couple of years. I like new toys, but there's a limit imposed by common sense. Newer processors may give an infinitesimal improvement in performance, which no doubt can be measured by benchmarks, but the N6 is plenty fast enough for me. The screen may not be the best around these days, but every time I watch a video I think "Wow, this is an amazing quality picture", so again, good enough for me.
No point in squandering resources, is there...?
("I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Best)
I'll stay with Nexus 6, it's the best phone I ever had, even if it's not my daily phone because it's too big, it's really wonderfull with big screen, nice resolution (ready for carboards), enought RAM, 25Go is enought for me, nice photos/videos, good stereo sound with front speakers, fast charge... :good: I still love it
The Nexus Marlin and Sailfish will indeed not be true Nexus devices. It has been announced that Google is rebranding the Nexus brand, rumored at the moment to just be called "G"; and it will not feature a stock version of android, rather there will be G-only features built into the ROM. No word of bootloader yet.
(source: http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/30/12712722/google-new-nexus-phones-brand-name-change)
If there is no Nexus device then maybe I will get the One Plus 3
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I see moving to a 5.5" screen as a downgrade.
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Me too, not going to happen as long as there are decent 6" or bigger phones available. It's a pain trying to type messages or emails on such a small screen.
I really want a 64 bit mobile to develop my rom, but the 6P might break if I think about it too hard. So I'll check the new ones, but if they are too expensive here in Europe, and the early reviews are negative, then I'll just keep my N6.
I still love my N6 but I cracked the screen a bit in the corner.
I also want to finally make the move to Project Fi so I'm hoping for a bundle deal.
If what is in the leaks is true. I rather buy note 7. Back design too ugly for me.
There are a lot of reasons why people buy a Nexus device. The 2 most common reasons I always see is either the simplicity of the device (dare I say, bare bones of what a phone should do/have) and stock skin of Android or on the other side, the complex and customisable options that is possible with the fact that Nexus devices are easy to tinker with combined with the support of the developer community who are constantly providing support for devices for years even after they reach their sell by date(shoutout to all the devs btw )
Combined with this I guess its safe to stay for the most advanced users and beginners alike it all depends on if they're specific needs are still being met for them to stay with Nexus 6 or any other device for that matter and if not then it's time to upgrade.
Personally I will probably stick with Nexus 6 for as long as it lasts me or if a phone gets released with everything the Nexus 6 is and hopefully more ( Preferably a phone such as the Xperia Z5 Ultra , if Sony ever release it )
The price is too high for me. No front facing speakers, "just" a 5.5 Inch screen etc etc. For the moment my N6 is fast and stable enough to use it for the best part of the next year as well.
Bottom line, I would rather buy a OnePlus 3, than a "New Nexus" at this point.
Did they unviel it yet? I have my credit card ready. But i love my n6 to much lol
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I've grown to the size of my phone and cant seem myself owning anything smaller.
Since first buying the Nexus 6 a couple years ago or so I've had a Moto X Pure, Huawei Mate 7, OnePlus 3, and now I'm back to the Nexus 6. This phone just has everything I want in a phone. 6 inch screen (which for me is the perfect size), simple, clean design, great development, stereo speakers, and good battery life. No point in updating to a newer phone for minimal gains in speed at the cost of at least a couple of the N6's great features.
More than likely I'm going to upgrade. My N6 will be paid off in October.
I'm ready for a smaller form factor, unless they completely **** it up and the design is completely underwhelming, I will be getting one, I'm not gonna get it on launch day like the Shamu though , gonna take my sweet time waiting for reviews to make a final decision, there is a chance I will be sticking with this device for another cycle, we'll see
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I see moving to a 5.5" screen as a downgrade.
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Me too, I wish they would make another Nexus with a screen this size! They did it once and never again! I LOVE my N6!
I'll be keeping my N6 or getting the One Plus 3 if what I have heard and read about the new devices is true. I just love my N6, has everything I've ever wanted (minus a removable SD and/or battery which I really don't miss). Got my son a OP3 and it is really nice, I really liked my OP1. OnePlus is as close to a Nexus as you can get and unlike recent Nexus they are still inexpensive.
Nexus 6
I want to get a new phone to replace my S6. The two main options I have honed in on are the Axon 7 64GB and the OnePlus 3T. Here are the strengths of each
Axon 7
Better screen (higher resolution)
Better warranty/support
Better speakers
SD card support
OnePlus 3T
Better processor
More RAM
Physical home button.
Thoughts? Those of you have one and wish you got the other?
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I want to get a new phone to replace my S6. The two main options I have honed in on are the Axon 7 64GB and the OnePlus 3T. Here are the strengths of each
Axon 7
Better screen (higher resolution)
Better warranty/support
Better speakers
SD card support
OnePlus 3T
Better processor
More RAM
Physical home button.
Thoughts? Those of you have one and wish you got the other?
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Honestly, processor and RAM doesn't make that much of a difference when they're this close.....Unless you're a gamer?
Other things to look at, that may make your decision.
Camera - OnePlus 3T wins
Audio - Axon 7 wins
How much space do you really need? My SD card died last week and I was all freaked out, but it all fit on my 64gb Axon 7 internal memory until my new card arrives.... If I had a bunch of movies to save, this would be a deal breaker. I even have 2100 songs and they only eat up about 7-8gb.
I'm an "audio" buff....So the choice was easy for me, and the camera is good enough on the Axon 7 that I can live with it and make it do what I need it to. Sometimes a little editing is needed.
Well this is my point of view, take it with a grain of salt.
ZTE:
- Better Screen (not reaaaaaally noticeable, yes it is better, but both are good enough so that you cant tell each other apart). Real difference might be appreciated with QHD wallpapers, but not much else.
- Better Speakers, and overall sound quality. This has to be the largest difference. Watching videos in the Axon vs the OP3 is like going from dial up to broadband. Plus, the Axon drives higher impedance headphones without much of a hassle.
- Better in call quality. This is a direct consequence of having better audio.
- SD Card Support. I thought I wouldn't need it too much but actually, it is a nice thing to have.
OP3:
- The fact that the screen itself is lower res, means lower battery consumption. Since I read an article from AnandTech, we might be talking maybe up to 30% less usage from the screen + cpu/gpu load.
- The camera has to be better, you don't have to work yourself out to get an awesome picture. Though, if you get it right on the ZTE you can absolutely get beautiful pictures.
- Better processor? Really? Lets suppose you actually need the difference in clocks, where the OP3 would make a difference, how long can you really keep that clock up? Maaaybe 5 minutes before hitting thermal limits where the better cpu just doesn't mean anything anymore.
- Physical button. Well this is really up to you, I prefer the fingerprint scanner on the back.
- Alert Slider. Really an advantage for the OP3, really like this feature, and if it ever becomes configurable, that would be awesome.
-6GB of RAM?? Well, I have 4GB on my Axon and never has an app crashed on me, and I was suprised to find myself having 20+ apps open without the phone even noticing and instantly switching between them with all of them loaded in RAM. So this one is up to you, but I wouldn't mind. It does make the OP3 more futureproof if anything...
- Software> the OP3s software is hands down better than the Axons and that is the best that the OP3 can pull over the Axon, by far.
About support, well I don't know how well any of them do with support so i will not comment on this.
My conclusion is then: should you care about media consumption, buy the Axon, don't even think about it. If what you want/need the best performance around and like having the best software and dev help, then get the OP3. I wouldn't look on hardware differences too much.
Not a gamer in the slightest. I will occasionally take toddler snapshots with the camera when my panny is not handy.
This is more an overall performance and form comparison.
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Axon 7 has Daydream support, also.
Now that Axon 7 is getting proper sound support on LOS/LOS based roms, it is Axon 7 hands down.
A7 has better cellular connectivity support. Has more bands than the OP3/T do.
How prevalent is this Google Play bug I am seeing on the Axon 7?
I've had three OP phones and never buying them again. All above aside, they have terrible touch screen lag which makes them unusable. Axon is also cheaper.
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I have both...Also mate 9..Just bought each over this last month...I am coming from my still loved note 5..
First off...Don't think too much into 2k unless vr is your factor. I did too. But after experiencing these latest devices running 1080 with 5.5 inch to 5.9 I cannot believe I said all I did in the past...The one plus 3t is just as sharp for regular use and have not tried any VR on any device...The Axon 7 is great as well...Not as speedy as the latter but still a steal for the price...To be honest the one plus 3t and Axon 7 are both comparable however the camera is a bit better FOR ME so far on One plus but I have to say that 20mp isn't bad at all...The 1440 on the Axon isn't that noticable to me either. Really. The one plus screen looks slightly better to me I guess because of the brightness and calibration. Still miniscule ...Both perform crazy fast for their price but one plus and mate 9 are definitely smoother for me...Just flip a coin. You can't go wrong...I just could not make up my mind so I bought them all...If I have to sell one I will. But for now they are all nice and safe clean and ready for my reviews...Sort of babbling here really but if you have any specific questions I can totally help. I do not keep notifications on so I'll have to check for reply manually. I haven't been on in a year here ...But I'll be checking back for your comments. Or Inbox
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You can supposedly get Google assistant on Axon 7 which won't happen on op3t
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crcostel said:
I want to get a new phone to replace my S6. The two main options I have honed in on are the Axon 7 64GB and the OnePlus 3T. Here are the strengths of each
Axon 7
Better screen (higher resolution)
Better warranty/support
Better speakers
SD card support
OnePlus 3T
Better processor
More RAM
Physical home button.
Thoughts? Those of you have one and wish you got the other?
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Not a gamer in the slightest. I will occasionally take toddler snapshots with the camera when my panny is not handy.
This is more an overall performance and form comparison.
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How prevalent is this Google Play bug I am seeing on the Axon 7?
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I can say I was on the same boat as you in January, when I bought my first Axon 7 and I was amazed with the device. Even when I loved it, I decided to get a Mate 9 because I heard it was a great device. I used the Mate 9 for a couple of weeks and sold it and got the Axon 7 again, I couldn't stand the media consumption in the Mate 9, because of the screen and the sound. The Mate 9 has an amazing display, but I'm used to QHD since many years ago, and somehow I could notice the difference in certain situations. About the sound, Axon 7 is clearly the winner here. The reason I changed the Axon 7 was the camera, because was average and everybody claimed that Mate 9 had a super camera. Truth is, that I didn't see too much difference between the 2 in picture quality, so better go back with the Axon 7.
Regarding the comparison, 821 is less than 10% better than 820, so it makes no difference in real world usage. RAM neither, because most of the time I have 2GB free on the Axon 7, so why should I want 2GB more?, that is only pure marketing and never an app would require so much RAM.
In my opinion, the physical home button is a waste of space, because it only makes the device bigger with no need. I always have hated capacitive buttons, but what I love about the Axon 7 is that even with capacitive buttons, the aspect ratio is great. Is smaller than some of the 5.5" devices I have used before that rely only on software buttons.
The OP3T has a worse display, both resolution and quality, and the people who say that is because of the battery, is lying or they don't know much about technology. Display technology has advanced so much in these years, and even when this statement was true in the beginning, now the QHD screens out there have similar power consumptions. Also to point that the screen on the Axon 7 is exactly the same of the Galaxy S7 Edge, so I can say is really nice to have a display like this one.
As for the OP3T, is true that is has slightly better performance, camera and battery, but is no match for the Axon 7 regarding media consumption (sound, display, storage, etc.) and the difference is huge between the 2.
As someone suggested you, if you aim to media consumption, there is no better device than this one. If you are kind of a ROM addict or you are deep into development, get the OP3T.
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P.D.: All the bugs and problems the Axon 7 (including Play Store) are fixed now with the update that came a few days ago, and I can confirm it.
P.D.2: Have you consider to wait for the OnePlus 5?
crcostel said:
Not a gamer in the slightest. I will occasionally take toddler snapshots with the camera when my panny is not handy.
This is more an overall performance and form comparison.
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If performance is your concern then look no further and buy the OP3, unless, since you are an XDA member, know a thing or two about tinkering with ROMs and flashing your phone. In that case then its an Audio vs Camera situation...
In had the oneplus 3 and returned it within 2days. Axon 7 has been the better phone for me.
It's really a matter of opinion. You won't find that much difference in the specs.
Battery - The charging speed is the same (see this), and this), battery is the same (slightly better on the a7). I use the phone a lot and I'm very happy with the battery capacity.
Screen is nearly the same (A7: 2K AMOLED, OP3: 1080p Super AMOLED).
Processor - You won't notice the difference. Seriously, the A7 has great speed.
Camera - The A7's camera is excellent in day light. Not in day light? Not so much. It's fine. But in day light you can take amazing pictures with it (which show great on the screen ). There are a bunch of camera samples online from each phone (and maybe even a camera comparison), so check that out.
You might also want to check some other stuff out like durability, speed, etc. In videos. But do keep in mind that in speeds as high as flagships phone you probably won't notice the difference.
RAM - The 4GB RAM on the A7 is enough for me. I don't see how anyone would need 6GM RAM on a smartphone. (I've also heard that OP3 doesn't use all it's RAM, I wonder if that's fixed already).
The fingerprint scanner on the back is surprisingly comfortable and it's really a matter of getting used to it. I got used to it very quickly and it's instinctive to me.
The stock ROM isn't that great but it could be replaced by unlocking the bootloader so I personally wouldn't take that into account here. Plus the A7 started getting a lot of attention from ROM makers and has LOS official support and other ROMs available.
Also the A7 is cheaper.
The audio is also excellent.
Design is also great, the phone is very pretty (suck it LG G6 )
I enjoy my phone greatly.
Axon 7 +'s
audio
warranty
OnePlus 3T
pretty wood cases
It looks like the stock ROM is probably better (built-in dark theme and accent color adjustment. Well executed)
Processor matters. Maybe not in speed but the additional features Qualcomm rolls up in the chipset can... as long as the manufacturer implements them.
For me, it came down to warranty and particularly the Dash charging is proprietary. I'd rather not buy up a bunch of chargers which charge fast only on their phones. Yes, Quick Charge 3.0 is proprietary to Qualcomm in the sense that USB-C PD is the real standard - but it's less proprietary.
My next phone must have the most standard charging available. I'm tired of this proprietary charging junk. Dicking with finding the right power adapter is annoying and just adds up in $30 and $40 costs if I want car adapters and additional AC adapters which support whatever standard.
Just think of the extra $60 you spent on extra Quick/Fast chargers for the office & car which will be obsolete on your next phone. Hidden costs are crap.
I have it on mine. Just pressed home button held it and there it is. 7.0 stock.
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Thanks everyone - going to BestBuy tomorrow to get a feel for the ergonomics and then will buy from BH if it passes. Currently have VZW so I'll try to get it going and if not, off to ATT
Also worth noting that the Axon 7 can be had for almost 40% less than the equivalent 3T, which seems almost too good to pass up for an incremental upgrade.
Also, from what I understand, it only fully supports AT&T and T-Mobile in states so do beware.
With axon 7 getting proper sound on LOS and an SD card for me it's a no brainer....I like to take my movies with me when I travel so sticking everything on the 256gb SanDisk is awesome....I will never but a phone with no microSD...I don't even wanna count how many times I wiped internal storage when I was resetting for a new Roman install....Having my TWRP backups on external storage was literAlly a life saver for me personally
With the mate 10 on the horizon, will you stick with Huawei or a different brand. Could you get a similar spec with a budget Chinese phone like Xiaomi?
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Phablet category will be dead soon since all including mate 10 will go over too 18:9 aspect ratio which means a lot smaller screen area...
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Phablet category will be dead soon since all including mate 10 will go over too 18:9 aspect ratio which means a lot smaller screen area...
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We are seeing some big players (Samsung, LG, Google) experimenting with 18:9 (2:1) but it will be down to the consumer i guess if these phones are as popular as previous other aspect ratio models.
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First of, I bought my mate 8 less than a year ago, and have no intention of changing it before 2/3 years. It would be a poor choice of a phone if I felt the need to change it every year.
But if by accident I HAD to change it, I think I would look toward the note note 8 rather than than the mate 10. The plus being stylus and waterproof. And since none of those are things are really must-have, I would most probably look for a cheaper large screen phone. Maybe another used mate 8 or mate 7. Or whatever good occasion I can find.
I mean, I can't really see what the mate 10 would do better.
Battery life ? Haven't seen any real gain for years.
Photo quality ? Some progress, but the mate 8 is more than enough for me.
Raw power ? I don't use it much. Mate 8 has more than enough for years to come.
VR ? It's still not good on a smartphone, mate 8 or otherwise..
What I'm trying ot say is that I'm satisfied by my mate 8. But the question is more "are recent phones bringing anything worth the change ?"
For a few years now, phones makers have been strugling to bring anything new of value to the table. Raw power and screen quality have reached a level where they are already beyond what you need for the use of a smartphone. There has been nothing new in battery for years. Photo quality can still get better, with better low light and/or zoom. But it's far from being enough to motivate a change. And soldity/reliability has been progressing very slowly.
Today, I think I could have a Mate 7 or a mate 10 and barely see the difference in everyday use. Both phone would be smooth, have pretty much the same software (with a few tweaks for the mate 7) same battery life, pretty much same internet speed ... one would take slightly better photo, and that's it.
Both mare 8 and 9 I one of the phones that have aged best. Pocketnow did a video about the 9 recently.
Mate 8 does not feel obsolete at all despite being from 2015
6 inch yes... mate/Huawei no..
nice thread and perfect timing id say, kudos to rhe OP!
after the mate 8 (which i will most likely keep for another year at least, especially since there is nothing interesting on the market atm or in the near future, except maybe the xiaomi mi mix 2), i will not be able to go back to anything smaller than 6 inches. it is just so damn nice to have so much screen real estate! and ive gotten used to the size, everything smaller seems tiny in comparison, whereas my mate 8 just seems "normal" in size
i agree with above posters concerning the 2:1 screen ratio that is becoming more popular lately: the diagonal numbers seem to get larger (i.e. S8+ at 6.2 inches) but the actual screen area is actually identical to the mate 8 with 0.2 inches LESS diagonal screen size! so thats something to keep an eye out for when buying a new phone these days.
looking at the bezels of the mate 8 id say a phone with a 16:9 screen of around 6.4-6.5 inches and sporting razorthin bezels on all four sides would be absolutely perfect in screen/overall size and -to-body-ratio
in retrospect, my mate 8 experience so far (about 17 months ownership) has been quite pleasant! its a great phone, excellent battery life (10h sot on average with a range of 8-12h depending on usage intensity), super solid built (feels like a tank but still very graceful and sexy), awesome screen and lots of real estate on it and last, but not least, fluid stable software.
the only real gripe i have with it is that we are dependant on basically one or two major devs, namely kangvip and hrt team, thats it. otherwise we will be EOL once huawei stops publishing firmware upgrades.
nevertheless, i will keep an eye out for the mate 10 and see what it brings to the table
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YOU BET
In 2010, I started with the Dell Streak 5. Oh the looks I got from people "THAT is your phone?" "What do you need
a screen THAT big". This was in the day that 3.5" was the NORMAL size or a smartphone.
Then, I went with the Samsung Galaxy Note1, then the Mate2, and now the Mate8.
I PREFER the larger screen, mostly because my eyesight isn't what it once was, and, because the larger screen
phones usually have larger batteries.
If they make one with smaller bezels, but not 100% bezel-less, with a 4,000mAH or larger battery, that is about or
a little thicker than the Mate2/8, I'll get one.
My mate 8 still works fine.
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In 2010, I started with the Dell Streak 5. Oh the looks I got from people "THAT is your phone?" "What do you need
a screen THAT big". This was in the day that 3.5" was the NORMAL size or a smartphone.
Then, I went with the Samsung Galaxy Note1, then the Mate2, and now the Mate8.
I PREFER the larger screen, mostly because my eyesight isn't what it once was, and, because the larger screen
phones usually have larger batteries.
If they make one with smaller bezels, but not 100% bezel-less, with a 4,000mAH or larger battery, that is about or
a little thicker than the Mate2/8, I'll get one.
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haha so true! i still remember when the streak came out, it looked HUGE to me nowadays its on the lower half of screen sizes, hahaha. how times change
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First of, I bought my mate 8 less than a year ago, and have no intention of changing it before 2/3 years. It would be a poor choice of a phone if I felt the need to change it every year.
But if by accident I HAD to change it, I think I would look toward the note note 8 rather than than the mate 10. The plus being stylus and waterproof. And since none of those are things are really must-have, I would most probably look for a cheaper large screen phone. Maybe another used mate 8 or mate 7. Or whatever good occasion I can find.
I mean, I can't really see what the mate 10 would do better.
Battery life ? Haven't seen any real gain for years.
Photo quality ? Some progress, but the mate 8 is more than enough for me.
Raw power ? I don't use it much. Mate 8 has more than enough for years to come.
VR ? It's still not good on a smartphone, mate 8 or otherwise..
What I'm trying ot say is that I'm satisfied by my mate 8. But the question is more "are recent phones bringing anything worth the change ?"
For a few years now, phones makers have been strugling to bring anything new of value to the table. Raw power and screen quality have reached a level where they are already beyond what you need for the use of a smartphone. There has been nothing new in battery for years. Photo quality can still get better, with better low light and/or zoom. But it's far from being enough to motivate a change. And soldity/reliability has been progressing very slowly.
Today, I think I could have a Mate 7 or a mate 10 and barely see the difference in everyday use. Both phone would be smooth, have pretty much the same software (with a few tweaks for the mate 7) same battery life, pretty much same internet speed ... one would take slightly better photo, and that's it.
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Totally agree with this
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With the mate 10 on the horizon, will you stick with Huawei or a different brand. Could you get a similar spec with a budget Chinese phone like Xiaomi?
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i don't stick huawei.
i'll buy xiaomi if they release gooe one.
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i don't stick huawei.
i'll buy xiaomi if they release gooe one.
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yeah im curious about their upcoming mi mix 2, should be interesting
Speculations about Mate 10.
Kirin 970 chipset, 18:9 6-inch 2160x1080px screen, 3D sensing dual cameras.
http://www.gsmarena.com/due_in_the_...will_have_an_edgetoedge_screen-news-26022.php
6"? Yes.
Huawei? No. The build and quality are fantastic. Though, EMUI still needs a lot of bug fixes.
I didn't realize people cared (so much) about aspect ratio over hardware and software.
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6"? Yes.
Huawei? No. The build and quality are fantastic. Though, EMUI still needs a lot of bug fixes.
I didn't realize people cared (so much) about aspect ratio over hardware and software.
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we dont i just said its important to consider that with 18:9 screens we actually get less screen area than with 16:9 screens at identical inches.
I think the strategy behind 9:18 is that its different to what the last generation of phones have, it will look a bit different, so seem attractive. We have had super high res screens before for a while (LG G3 etc) but 9:18 is something new. Thing is we keep falling for it :-/
in a perfect world id like something with a similar sized screen to the mate 8, significantly lighter (feels a bit of a tank in the hand if I'm honest) excellent battery life ( 16 SOT) and a camera that could really produce stunning shots in all conditions. Ok, maybe a few years away with all that but the upgrades we now have are pretty marginal and I think the mobile phone companies are clutching at straws in terms of upgrade possibilities with todays technology.
Like most I'm in no rush to upgrade the Mate 8, if rumor is to be believed we will see Android O at some point but I wont hold my breath, having said that, Battery life has took a major hit since upgrading from marshmallow to Nougat.
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I think the strategy behind 9:18 is that its different to what the last generation of phones have, it will look a bit different, so seem attractive. We have had super high res screens before for a while (LG G3 etc) but 9:18 is something new. Thing is we keep falling for it :-/
in a perfect world id like something with a similar sized screen to the mate 8, significantly lighter (feels a bit of a tank in the hand if I'm honest) excellent battery life ( 16 SOT) and a camera that could really produce stunning shots in all conditions. Ok, maybe a few years away with all that but the upgrades we now have are pretty marginal and I think the mobile phone companies are clutching at straws in terms of upgrade possibilities with todays technology.
Like most I'm in no rush to upgrade the Mate 8, if rumor is to be believed we will see Android O at some point but I wont hold my breath, having said that, Battery life has took a major hit since upgrading from marshmallow to Nougat.
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mmm yes and no. actually, its our own (the consumer`s) fault: samsung, LG and others did their market research including consumer questioning and the result was this: consumer wants bigger screens but without the hassle of a phone too wide to hold in one hand! solution? easy: make the screens longer but stick to the same width! thus we get 18:9 screens, voila
nice benefit for the manufacturers / for marketing: diagonal size in inches increases by a LOT (i.e. friggin 6.2 inches diagonal on S8+) but screen real estate doesnt increase as much as with 16:9 screens! (again: mate 8 with 6.0 inch screen has same display area as S8+ with "bigger" 6.2 inch screen )
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mmm yes and no. actually, its our own (the consumer`s) fault: samsung, LG and others did their market research including consumer questioning and the result was this: consumer wants bigger screens but without the hassle of a phone too wide to hold in one hand! solution? easy: make the screens longer but stick to the same width! thus we get 18:9 screens, viola
nice benefit: diagonal size in inches increases by a LOT (i.e. friggin 6.2 inches diagonal on S8+) but screen real estate doesnt increase as much as with 16:9 screens! (again: mate 8 with 6.0 inch screen has same display area as S8+ with "bigger" 6.2 inch screen )
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That's a fair comment, and I can see why a narrower phone with similar screen size would appeal to some. Also I guess it's a bit more pocketable. Personally tho I like 16:9 but guess I wouldn't rule out something slightly easier in the pocket.
Xiaomi Chiron anyone?
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/07/rumor-xiaomi-chiron-flagship-sport-6-inch-189-screen.html
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anwedr said:
6"? Yes.
Huawei? No. The build and quality are fantastic. Though, EMUI still needs a lot of bug fixes.
I didn't realize people cared (so much) about aspect ratio over hardware and software.
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18:9 is the new cancer that we have to live with.. People are stupid they think 6 inches with 18:9 is bigger then on 16:9 for instance..
screeb area is actually less with the same inch size on 18:9.
People still when talking about phone sizes mostly talk about "inches" but you need to know the aspect ratio now also..