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Nexus 5x I am positive about this phone.

I just thought to counterthread underwhelmed thread. At the end of the day it all boils down to personal needs and little of common sense because new phone seems to be pretty awesome and I mean that.
It's from google so you will have timely updates and your phone will not go into oblivion with updates. Phone is developer very friendly and popular you can tinker it till you die.
RAM problem?! Maybe for some if you hardcore appsumers that don't bother to disable/switch off them once in the while.
Snapdragon 808 such a flop! It's 2015 ! 810 still does a better job when throttles blah blah blah.... C'mon this phone will fly and it's not like you are going to run touchwiz. I currently use Moto G 3 Gen 2GB version and it flies ! Yes it flipping snappy and responsive and I don't play games either. I got like 5-7 chrome windows opened, few apps in the background , VLC player on hold and that little thing is supper great.
1080 FHD screen. I think its heaven unless you do VR stuff and pixels bother you fair enough but for everything else 1080 is sweet hell of the spot and sharp . Also no extra strain for GPU and battery. Panel should be great just as on Nexus 5 and probably better given it's 2015.
I am all the way about IPS panels for few reasons even best S6 amoled panel on basic mode produces dull yellowish whites (sRGB colour space) I don't like wide gammut like Adobe RGB , apart from work I occasionally do, I have no interest in it and even then it looks so unnatural to me eye. Another thing about amoled is gamma which is higher than 2.2 and leaves dark shadows with indistinguishable gradient. It just turns dark and black.
Camera should be nice so in the low light. I shouldn't worry too much about EIS my guess it will have some sort of digital control and I also heard it can be done on the phone in the post ( correct me if I am wrong) So far still samples look really nice in both light conditions.
I like C type cable because I had Iphone 6 and it was so cool just to stick charging cable into phone without any second thought.
One thing I am pretty sure many of you are not aware is front facing camera on 5x has larger aperture at 2.0f while 6p only 2.4f. I don't personally bother about wireless charging because C connection makes it so easy and hassle free to do charging. 5' screen is fine but a little extra at 5.2' is ideal. It comes as perfect media and pocketable device.
Storage wise yes I would prefer 64 GB but 32 will do. And sure they are suckers like apple when giving you an option of 16GB just to piss you off so you can pay extra 50 to buy 32GB version.
I can only say look what apple does with it's hardware...
Edit: Another reason I don't get 6P is the size. Flipping ell nearly 16cm long. Will you get me a new pair of hands too ?
Fingers crossed this phone will be solid and trouble free. 3 times knock on the wood.​

Totally with you on this one. I'm coming from a Note4 after 2 faulty N6's forced me away from Nexus. From a hardware point of view the 5x will be a downgrade but, in every day use it will actually perform better. It's proven in my old N5 which is used by another family member. Every time I get to play with it I consider asking for it back as its still really smooth and even worked better than the N6 in some respects. The Ram on the 6P will be maxed out pushing pixels and the lager battery will be feeding this process so it's not going to be super amazing. Anyone who has the N6 or a Note 4 can tell you that. Some like bigger and powerful phones for games and media and each to their own on that. I want a phone that lasts a day, takes decent enough pictures, and works well with no issues. I have other dedicated devices for everything else.

Just ordered one. I currently have a S6 edge, but I really miss the nexus experience and the 6P is too big for me. Messing with my old nexus 5 just made me want to use it again, but I wanted the fingerprint scanner, so the 5X it is!

Thank you so much for this post! I am also positive about the Nexus 5X
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This is my thoughts exactly. I think this will be a no frills, smooth phone. Not top specs, but solid enough. If the camera works out well and the battery lasts longer than my Moto X Pure, then I think this will be my next phone. User experience is more important than specs to me.
I also hate AMOLED, not a good experience with the Galaxy Nexus nor the S4 and I've heard bad things about the first two Moto X and Nexus 6 screens...
Yes, I would have preferred 64, but I can learn to be frugal with storage.

Lots of *****ing & moaning about the 5X, but what alot of people don't realize is that the 5X will be alot faster than the G4 & Moto X Pure/Style because it's using a 1080p screen, wouldn't be surprised if it keeps up with the 810 in some test's, 1080p is plenty sharp enough, and being IPS display rather than AMOLED means no burn in problems in the future.
Now onto memory.
2GB on Marshmallow will be more than enough, due to optimization in Android 6.0, I can bet my house & car it run just as smooth as the 6P or other phones with 3GB or 4GB of ram, it is stock Android after all not bloated to high heaven.
Storage.
This i think is the only let down with this phone it should have been 32GB base & 64GB, 16GB these days isn't enough more so without micro SD.
Wireless charging.
Not something i would miss tbh, never used it on the Nexus 5 & don't use it on the Nexus 6, mainly because it was slow to charge & the phone would get hotter ie probably shorting the life of the battery over time.
Camera
It has the same camera as the 6P so no corner cutting in this department, it will have the best camera to date on a Nexus device, not having OIS is abit of a let down tbh & only being F2.0 on the lens, even with the bigger pixels on the sensor it still struggle sometimes in low light, if the lens had been F1.8 then it would have been better while having no OIS.
Also having a better Battery & USB type C are another plus to the 5X.
All in all the 5X will be a superb smartphone, the price in a few months will come down as well as more retailer get the hands on it.

@ixon2001 for storage, I will add on that you can buy one of those sandisk type c flash drives. There's another 32gb of external storage
With regards to the camera, the only questionable thing is will it have any type of stabilization. I know there is no EIS, but it is very odd if it did not have some form of stabilization, even if it isn't of the highest quality

The only thing that worries me in this phone is that 808. I've read that this series of chips has overheating problems, is that true? If so, what's the solution? Either way, I don't see a better phone for me in the market, I seriously hate almost everything that isn't Nexus. Kinda starting to sound like an Apple fanboy but the Nexus version of that, haha.

Bei60 said:
The only thing that worries me in this phone is that 808. I've read that this series of chips has overheating problems, is that true? If so, what's the solution? Either way, I don't see a better phone for me in the market, I seriously hate almost everything that isn't Nexus. Kinda starting to sound like an Apple fanboy but the Nexus version of that, haha.
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No the 810 had this overheating problems. Not the 808
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WingnutStrikesBack said:
No the 810 had this overheating problems. Not the 808
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oh cool thanks

Bei60 said:
The only thing that worries me in this phone is that 808. I've read that this series of chips has overheating problems, is that true? If so, what's the solution? Either way, I don't see a better phone for me in the market, I seriously hate almost everything that isn't Nexus. Kinda starting to sound like an Apple fanboy but the Nexus version of that, haha.
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I've got the G4. The 808 is solid and flies. Wait for the 5X with stock 6.0 and 1080p, its gonna kill!

I'm mostly positive about the N5X.
I really wish they'd retained Qi charging. I became a believer in wireless charging when I got my HP Touchpad with Touchstone charger a few years back, and was really happy to see it in the Nexus lineup. Since the last three Android reference phones have had wireless charging, I thought Google had committed to it. I guess it was just a gimmick? Grrrr.....
But yeah - really looking forward to some Marshmallowey goodness on a new Nexus.

I'm in Canada, the only thing I miss is the cost due to our weak dollar. I feel happy LG is making another Nexus phone.

I was originally concerned about the battery size and 2Gb of RAM but I'm confident marshmallow will be more efficient.
Also I would estimate the battery life to be equal to the G4 because it's pushing less pixels and yet has a smaller battery.
It really sucks that we don't get the google play credit though. It says it right on the page when you buy it.

davidnnn said:
I was originally concerned about the battery size and 2Gb of RAM but I'm confident marshmallow will be more efficient.
Also I would estimate the battery life to be equal to the G4 because it's pushing less pixels and yet has a smaller battery.
It really sucks that we don't get the google play credit though. It says it right on the page when you buy it.
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Once the phone ships out, you'll get an email with a code for your Play Store credit
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Once the phone ships out, you'll get an email with a code for your Play Store credit
Sent from my Nexus 5
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That's great to hear!

Been looking at the chamfered polished edge bezel on the 6P, I tell you know that thing gonna scratch so easily even with just putting it in & out of a case.
It looks exactly like the Note 4's polished chamfered edge which had problems with scratching.
Those who gone for the 5X in a years time if they look after their phones, will still look good as new while the 6P will more than likely be scratched & pitted up to high heaven.

i never used wireless charging in my life. never considered it either. i wont miss it.
1 front-facing speaker - while a disappointment in itself, i never used a phone with dual frontfacing speakers. so from that point of view, the 5x is still an upgrade to my nexus 5.
i dont think i ever encountered ram-issues with the nexus 5. obviously 3 gb would have been nice, but i dont think this will affect my experience in any way. (maybe on android n? who knows)
snapdragon 808 - the nexus 5 is the strongest phone i've ever used, and the 808 is an upgrade to the 5s 800.
camera - it can only go up. although the image quality itself was pretty good with the nexus 5. the biggest issue i had was the autofocus in darker conditions. i have the perfect shot lined up, focused, sharp and crisp, i tap the camera button - the phone unfocuses and takes a blurred shot. what the ****.
all in all it might be a rather small upgrade for a big price tag. but this time, i swear by me mum, i'm gonna use that sucker for the next 3-4 years or so. (like i did with my nexus s)

murfi said:
i never used wireless charging in my life. never considered it either. i wont miss it.
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You don’t know what you’re missing—maybe being ignorant is bliss for you.

BinkXDA said:
You don’t’ know what you’re missing—maybe being ignorant is bliss for you.
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No need for that. I, myself, have not tried wireless charging and was planning to on one of these two devices (til I canceled my order), but with turbo charging I don't think I even want to try it. Plus, can't really use your phone while charging wirelessly. I'm one of those that many times my phone gets very low and I use it while charging. Turbo charging is more beneficial for me; I don't think not using wireless charging makes us ignorant. Have a good one

Nexus 5X vs Nexus 6

So I ordered a Nexus 6 for $300 brand new on eBay. I am intrigued by the Nexus 5X as well.
So here's why I think where the Nexus 6 is better than the 5X:
QHD Screen, Dual Front Facing Speakers, OIS in the camera, more RAM.
Here is where I think the 5X is better than the 6:
Better form factor, better processor, fingerprint scanner/Nexus Imprint, better camera (even though no OIS), and better front facing camera.
Now, here is what I prefer, the features like the fingerprint scanner, camera, and better processor.
Here is what gets me though, less RAM means less quality performance, the price for a 32 GB is over $150 more, and the Nexus 5X needs Type C to Type A to be utilized on my MacBook.
So is it worth it for me to get the 5X? I am a little bit budget conscious, but could get the 5X. I have the 6S+ as my daily driver, but want a Nexus device as my main android device. The Nexus software is good and will pair up nicely with my Moto 360. Suggestions?

I think the gpu in the nexus 6 is better. For me it would come down to size or if you care about fingerprint scanner. It isn't worth it from a specs standpoint.

I think it's absolutly worth and let me tell you why:
Camera way better. I know there is no OiS) However look at pixel size. Whooping 1.55μm-sized. There is Sony sensor being used one that is produced for camcorder and point and shoot grade camera's as far as I know .
Screen is really great. According to one owner who happens to have Note 4 too. That says a lot. ( same guy from reddit)
Unless you will do VR QHD you might have a valid point otherwise 5"2 is nothing less than big fat Good ( you own 5"5 6s and you know how good it is ) Pixel density is solid too.
You will have one-handed device but still decent size and pocketable
Even longer support from google
Finger print scanner ( I am not fuzzy about it but after owning Iph 6 I can appreciate it) as far as I know it's solid and reliable one too! ( also from reddit) By the way read through this link for more answers : https://m.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3p07st/i_have_a_nexus_5x_ask_me_whatever_youd_like_about/
Should be better battery life
C type USB cable . You should also appreciate it coming from 6s + no hassle connecting to you phone. Either way is a goer.
Can't think of something else atm,...

32 GB is an absolute must, right?

Yes, indeedio .

Is the RAM a concern to you personally? Especially if you plan on keeping your phone for 2 years? I read that you mentioned it hiccuped when you were downloading apps? I plan on just taking photos, using social media apps, internet browse, and text.
I don't play those graphic intensive games on phones.
I wonder if Google will update it for two years and if it would enjoy the full features of the Nexus software? I am reading mixed experiences with the N5 2013.

It wasn't me on reddit it was just a random Nexus 5x owner.
2GB is plenty. I had Moto G 3 Gen 2GB version it was supper snappy and responsive with Snapdragon 410. Can you believe it? Here in comparison you have 808 beast and stock android. No QHD. This phone will fly.
I have ordered this phone it's coming on Monday. I don't do games but rarely , mainly will use this phone photography, browsing, reading and media consumption.
I down't know how much you have to abuse this phone to lag or stutter. Probably never close any app, fill your phone with junk that eats RAM and play most demanding games for hours.
Once I came across one article about how to make decisions. I will try to recall questions. Write as much as you can for each question:
What will I gain by buying 5x?
What will I miss by buying 5x ?
What will I miss by not buying 5x ?
What will I not miss by buying 5x?
This will be your honest rationalization upon which you should be able to make decision easier.

Switching from a S6 Edge Plus. Any thoughts?

Hello.
I currently own a s6 edge plus. I liked its design and overall performance but after the nexus 5 and the oneplus one. Community stuff is waaay low and slow for the edge plus. And tinkering is very limited. Am hating touchwiz and my battery life (2h sot) plus the stupid fingerprint sensor that needs the screen on first to work is paethtic (i used to own a mate 7).
I'd always wanyed a nexus 6p but the whole SD810 fiasco turned me off. But then again am not a mobile gamer... far from it.
So from specs and reveiws i am excepting a :
- similar screen size. Tech and quality
- similar camera although a lower res and no ois
- heavier
- much better fingerprint sensor
- 64gb vs my current 32gb
- updates and community stuff
- stereo speakers
- similar battery performance (better idle usage maybe)
And what am losing is propably the edge screen,thickness and weight.
So do you think its a wise move? Price wise i could simply trade my used s6 edge plus for a brand new 6p.
And am not waiting for sailfish and merlin crap.

cryptonx said:
Hello.
I currently own a s6 edge plus. I liked its design and overall performance but after the nexus 5 and the oneplus one. Community stuff is waaay low and slow for the edge plus. And tinkering is very limited. Am hating touchwiz and my battery life (2h sot) plus the stupid fingerprint sensor that needs the screen on first to work is paethtic (i used to own a mate 7).
I'd always wanyed a nexus 6p but the whole SD810 fiasco turned me off. But then again am not a mobile gamer... far from it.
So from specs and reveiws i am excepting a :
- similar screen size. Tech and quality
- similar camera although a lower res and no ois
- heavier
- much better fingerprint sensor
- 64gb vs my current 32gb
- updates and community stuff
- stereo speakers
- similar battery performance (better idle usage maybe)
And what am losing is propably the edge screen,thickness and weight.
So do you think its a wise move? Price wise i could simply trade my used s6 edge plus for a brand new 6p.
And am not waiting for sailfish and merlin crap.
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With extensive app limiting using battery saving apps - Greenify, Amplify, etc - I get 3-4 (rarely 5 SOT) I have my brightness on half. And also, something to note. The screen in bright light on the 6P preforms pretty bad in my opinion.
-Tech and quality, not sure what you mean by this
-Quality? I give it a 10/10
-Lower res really won't be noticed if you just use high res videos and don't have the phone right up to your face counting pixels.
-Weight? The phone feels very light in my opinion and fits very well with my hand
-In my opinion, the iphone sensor is faster. But the Nexus 6P has never failed picking up my fingerprint - unless I had water on my finger etc
-Storage size, I have a 128gb and I sit at 50-70gb bouncing back and fourth. 64 would probably be good for the average user. - I used to have 409 apps.
-The updates are flawless - besides the lack of Nougat Stock image at the moment , ROM support is amazing and the 6P will be supported for years to come by 3rd party means.
-Stereo speakers are really good, only complaint I have is the open speakers - stuff can get in them but you can easily just blow them out with your breath
-Battery performance on android N I could get through the day and I'm a very heavy phone user.
Just trying to be helpful with your choice!
Oh, and as for the edge screen. I dont think you would miss that for long with such a great phone.
PS: You really dont have to worry about hard bricks if you dont flash the wrong kernel, that's always a plus

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And also, something to note. The screen in bright light on the 6P preforms pretty bad in my opinion.
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I agree with this but it is is fixable. Some do it with a custom kernel plus Tasker. I do it with ElementalX kernel plus High Brightness Mode Widget. Works great. , I now have no problem seeing my phone in direct sunlight.

There's a bunch of comparison video's on YouTube that are good and answer most if not all your concerns..
Honestly your best bet is to watch those and choose as they cover everything between the two device's..
I have my opinion but I honestly don't want to be bias..
But I'm very happy with my 6P and don't regret buying it one bit ?
Good luck
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Thanks alot fellas. I am on my way to get my silver 6p.

cryptonx said:
Thanks alot fellas. I am on my way to get my silver 6p.
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Hope you enjoy!

Got the gold 6p of a guy for 200 yesterday. Had the s6 edge plus and loving both phones
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Thinking about buying the 6GB version.

Hello all.
I got the LG v20 but my wife really wants a new phone.
Should I get the 6gb version for myself or should I get her the 4gb version.
In terms of camera and UI speed. How do you think all compare? Meaning the v20 and both axon phones.
Any other aspects I should be thinking about?
Thank you.

I think the LG V20 is a superior phone to the A2017, but that's normal, it's a phone double the price of the Axon. If you already have that, I don't see a real reason for buying an axon 7. If I were you I'd keep the LG V20 for yourself and ask her what she would use her new phone for. Unless she's someone who really needs the best of the best, loves tinkering with phones and needs all the newest features, I doubt she would be disappointed by, let's say, a nexus 5X...
The Axon camera is no good, really. Much worse than my previous N5X. I doubt the 2GB RAM difference between the two axon versions is noticeable. ATM there's not much use for the Force Touch feature of the most expensive model, as well...

borisb said:
Hello all.
I got the LG v20 but my wife really wants a new phone.
Should I get the 6gb version for myself or should I get her the 4gb version.
In terms of camera and UI speed. How do you think all compare? Meaning the v20 and both axon phones.
Any other aspects I should be thinking about?
Thank you.
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First question is your location. If you are in the USA then the Axon 7 is the way to go. The Chinese and European models seem to have more bugs and less frequent updates. As far as the 4gb or 6gb versions I would have to say the 4gb wins. 99 percent of smartphone users have no use for the extra ram and the other bells and whistles you get with the 6gb version doesn't justify the price increase.

Gotcha .... thank you

The Axon 7 can't compare to the V20, they're not in the same league. You get what you pay for, at least until OnePlus get their act together. The camera specifically is by far the weakest point of the A7. As far as flagship level phones go the camera on the A7 might actually be the worst one around. In anything but straight up brightly lit areas the camera produces garbage. It's utterly useless in low light, forget ever taking a photo at night with it. I'm not sure if the sensor is actually that horrible, or if ZTE's trash tier software is the main culprit.

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The Axon 7 can't compare to the V20, they're not in the same league. You get what you pay for, at least until OnePlus get their act together. The camera specifically is by far the weakest point of the A7. As far as flagship level phones go the camera on the A7 might actually be the worst one around. In anything but straight up brightly lit areas the camera produces garbage. It's utterly useless in low light, forget ever taking a photo at night with it. I'm not sure if the sensor is actually that horrible, or if ZTE's trash tier software is the main culprit.
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Yeah you are right. Spend way too much on a phone. Sure beats spending half that on a phone, 150 on a decent camera, and still having 200 or more play with in your wallet. If you hate the axon 7 so much why are you in axon 7 forums?

tabletalker7 said:
Yeah you are right. Spend way too much on a phone. Sure beats spending half that on a phone, 150 on a decent camera, and still having 200 or more play with in your wallet. If you hate the axon 7 so much why are you in axon 7 forums?
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He already owns the V20, no one is telling him to go out there and buy another one. Just because I own the device doesn't mean I'm going to pretend it's magic and sell false ideas to those asking questions. The camera is flat out the worst of anything out there targeting the flagship level overall.
You people who get angry and defensive over any non-endearing words towards your mega corporation built devices are something else.

First of all, you don't need 6gb ram. I would wait until next gen that uses 830 snapdragon processors, maybe even next after that. Right now it probably only drains more battery.
I only own an axon7 4gb(for less than a week). V20 was my second choice but decided to go with axon 7. The following might be a little biased.
Screen - Axon 7 has better screen. Lg v20 still uses LCD which will have more issues with to much light. You won't find a better screen on any phone within $400. v20 has a bigger screen but that might be an issue for some people
Camera - Axon 7 has a terrible camera. It's not that bad tough. It only suffers in low light scenarios (night time). During day and with manual mode the camera can take decent photos, as well as other phones. It also have problems with focus. A software update might fix all the issue tough. The best camera out there, I think it's on samsung galaxy phones and iphone 7.
Battery - LG has removable battery which was the main reason I considered LG v20. Axon 7 battery is better tough (almost last twice as long according to reviews)
Performance - they should be equal. Lg v20 has 135k score on antutu benchmark. Average axon7 should be on 135k ish as well. On my Chinese axon 7 I got 142k .
Durability - LG v20 is better, but axon 7 is no joke as well. The quality is at least as good as other flagships, if not better
Audio - Both lg v20 and axon7 have the best audio on market. Lg v20 might be better with headphones while axon7 is better with speakers.
As you can't see lg v20 isn't much better even tough double the price. No matter what flagship you buy, there aren't that much differences and there are always compromises.
I chose axon7 because I don't take picture to often and it can still take average-good pictures if i want to.
Something significantly better than both of them would be iphone7 and that is about it.
Something interesting, but not necessarily better is "Xiaomi Mi Mix Mobile Phone Snapdragon 821 6GB RAM 256GB ROM 6.4"Full Screen 2040x1080P FHD Ceramics 4400mAh Battery"
Hmm Ceramic. But was to outside of my price range. Nearly 1k euro.

Honest opinions please; tell me about your experience!

Hey friends in the sub $300 range!
I'm shopping around for a new device. Currently I'm using an Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 5.5" -- it has served me well (very well) since November 2015. Unfortunately the battery seems to be failing, so it seems the time has come for me to replace my precious. I'm actually in the sub $250 range, trying VERY HARD to not go over (which is why I'm considering the Axon 7 Mini and not the full-featured Axon 7).
I've been looking at all different phones for a couple days now and I'm stuck. I'm really drawn toward the Axon 7 Mini but from the reviews I've been reading the word is that it's just not that great for a $299 phone. Is it great for a $199 phone? Should I pay the extra $50 and get the Honor 6X (which I'm shying away from because of its overall durability -- yes, yes, I know to put a screen protector and case on it but it's the what ifs that get me), or do you think I'll be satisfied with the Axon 7 Mini? Normally I wouldn't hesitate to get a phone like this because I'm no stranger to the world of root and custom ROMs, and I know the dev community is stellar in making a stuttery device smooth like butter, but I see there hasn't been much luck with this one. I feel like my Idol (and Galaxy SIII before it) have spoiled me. Both devices just WORKED. They do and did what I needed them to do with minimal fuss and absolutely no worry about installing a custom ROM. Is the 7 Mini one of those phones that you just keep saying to yourself "I know CM would vastly improve my experience with this phone"?
Or should I give up on both phones and hope my Idol lasts a bit longer to see if I can get a really fantastic deal on the full featured Axon 7?

Probably should clarify: I am not by any means a heavy user. I may have a couple apps open at the same time, but I'm not running demanding games or social media apps (unless you count Snapchat as demanding; the Idol cannot handle Snapchat for some reason and it drives me nuts).

the word is that it's just not that great for a $299 phone. Is it great for a $199 phone?
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It depends on what you are looking for. The main reason why the reviews have been complaining is the somewhat weak CPU.
As someone who does not play 3D games on a phone, the performance has been absolutely fine for me.
Just going by the rest of the specs, it is hard to find anything that compares (without heavy compromises) at a $199 price point.
Should I pay the extra $50 and get the Honor 6X
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Hard to tell for me honestly. Just comparing the specs, the Axon has an AMOLED screen and better sound, while the Honor should have better battery life.
I'd go by what features you prefer. (more on that further down)
Is the 7 Mini one of those phones that you just keep saying to yourself "I know CM would vastly improve my experience with this phone"?
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Vastly improved? Not really. Somewhat improved? Definitely yes.
The stock system is not bad, but it has some quirks going against it. (somewhat questionable power management, bad stock UI)
If the Android N update goes well, I don't see that much need for a custom rom. It would of course be great to have, but it's not a deal breaker for me.
Overall pros/cons:
pro:
- beautiful display
- outstanding sound (both speakers and headphones)
- quick charge works very well
subjective pros:
- metal case
- usb type c
- overall great hardware design
meh:
- mediocre battery life (will get you through the day just fine, don't expect anything beyond)
- mediocre performance (will perform everyday tasks just fine, you won't be happy if you want to play demanding games though)
- mediocre camera (I don't really use it, but the pictures are unimpressive)
- updates happen every once in a blue moon, but they do happen
cons:
- no root
- no custom roms
- battery can't be swapped
- bad default UI (just using a different launcher will vastly improve your experience with the phone)

d3cay said:
Aight! Summed up nicely, the screen is actually very qualitative although the UI is a bit messy.. Right, nova or evie launcher change this to the good, honestly this is the phone I'm the most satisfacted with, didn't expect a timeless piece like this, woah! The Nubia Z17 Mini is also very nice!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=is.shortcut
http://www.nubia.com/en/presscenter.php?a=showArticleDetail&id=14
http://m.gsmarena.com/zte_nubia_z17_mini-8615.php
Check these links, nubia 17, better photography (although dslr is the queen) idk yet about the audio chip, will share it if you like. Although on 28nm, 652/653 is a nice improvement!
Screen looks great quality too!
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I came to the mini 7 from a broken Galaxy S6 ($300 to repair it so I figured I'd look at a newer phone). Now that I've got the performance improved (via a soft reset), I'm generally happy with the phone. Admittedly, my S6 was starting to get slow too, it probably also need a reset or cache cleared.
I bought the mini for $199. I think for that price it's a pretty decent phone.
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The Mini is easy to get for $199, most Best Buy stores stock both colors for that price (they are quite plentiful in the Minneapolis area at least)... For $199 if you don't need Verizon or other CDMA support, it's a pretty solid device.
- The display is beautiful and the sound is something you don't expect for a phone under $500.
- Performance is good for everything but heavy gaming.
- Battery is decent, pretty easy to get a full day with 4.5-5 hours SOT average in mixed LTE/WiFi
- Camera is pretty good and quick, I'll take it over my Moto X Pure edition's 21MP camera any day
- It is a very "premium" feeling phone
- The fingerprint reader is sometimes questionable (my son quite using it because it was so inconsistent, but last few updates it's better)
- MiFavor, the UI, is really disappointing and tries to be too Applish with no app drawer. And there is no usable battery stats in settings?!?!
The custom ROM and root thing is less and less important all the time, personally I don't think it will effect my next decision to get a phone at all. I'm with the previous poster CM might make it a little better, but the stock ROM isn't bad all and it wouldn't make it "amazing" or anything like that.
Add Nova Launcher and GSAM as your first installed apps and it's a good buy at $199, but if it's at $250-$300 I would skip it and get a Moto G5 Plus.
As far as the Honor phones go, I can't stand EMUI... the software ruins what would be an otherwise decent phone. Honor devices are solid hardware, but the software ruins it especially it actively prevents you replacing the launcher or using some other customizations, it's unfortunate they didn't stay with a more simple UI or even stockish Android, they would be a real consideration then.

d3cay said:
meh:
- mediocre camera (I don't really use it, but the pictures are unimpressive)
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Actually the camera is very good! Check my instagram @zteaxon7mini and get impressed by its results
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acejavelin said:
As far as the Honor phones go, I can't stand EMUI... the software ruins what would be an otherwise decent phone. Honor devices are solid hardware, but the software ruins it especially it actively prevents you replacing the launcher or using some other customizations, it's unfortunate they didn't stay with a more simple UI or even stockish Android, they would be a real consideration then.
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Just wanted to say that with EMUi 5.0, their skin has gotten a lot better. And the Honor 6X is getting it in Q2 this year. Also they don't make it difficult to replace the launcher or anything like that. Got an Honor phone for my Mom and girlfriend and I easily got them on Nova Launcher, Android Messages, Gmail, and even the Google phone app (an older version).
In regards to OP, the Honor 6X does seem like an all around better phone, if you can stand their skin. The performance seems to be better (going by reviews), battery life seems to be better, screen quality seems to be similar. I know the Axon is AMOLED and the Honor is IPS LCD, but all of the reviews (and my in person opinion) state that it is a very capable screen, especially for the price. The Axon does have great audio quality, but the Honor seems to have better performance and battery life. The design of the two is quite similar in that it's mostly aluminum with some glass. Also the Honor is currently on a flash sale for the next few days at $220 on Honor's website. So I definitely think it's up to you, but there's another opinion for ya!