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Hello people
I am looking to buy a tablet, and I can not afford the newest one simply because they are too expensive.
I may be able to get the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" and I was wondering if it was still worth it.
Is it the screen very responsive? Is it fast? Is 2.3 that important and should I look for a newer one, or is this product still good in terms of browsing the web, documents, some games, music?
And between this and the Toshiba Folio, bearing in mind the Folio is much cheaper, which would you pick? (or do you have another suggestion? I live in France)
Thank you for your answers
i've never heard of the folio before. i just googled it, hands off!
I also have little money. that's why i first imported the nook color (250$ + 120€ (shipping & german tax & customs)), its a very good tablet, bit I had problems with the display and I wanted a tablet with more connectivity (3g, gps, camera etc.)
I've sold the nook and bought the sgt used for 295€ at ebay.de.
it actually was cheaper than importing the nook and I hope that I will be happy with it.
I dont recommend any cheap android tablets, they all have a big list of cons. the only cheap android tablet you can get is the nook, but its only cheap if you live in the us.
i dont have my sgt yet, but from what i hear and i read its seams to be the most capable and cheapest high quality tablet out there.
The folio is highly recommended not to get! trust me toshiba sucks in the mobile industry. it has many bugs reported just like my TG01. They even cancelled the product line up here in the UK. Personlly i find my tab slow + laggy. You need a dual core tablet to power the mighty screen. I would get the HTC Flyer if i were you.
Mine flys
Stock the tab is fast enough to get work done. I did the KhasMek Voodoo Plus v3 OC kernal mod and the tab flys now. I have a Xoom also and this kernal for the SGT made it faster than my Xoom. The screen is also very responsive. Personally I think this is a fantastic tablet it just works with no fuss. Although, if I keep messing with it, that may no longer be the case. Mine is running 2.2 and I have no desire to put 2.3 on it any time soon. Not that it means allot Quadrant is running between 2100 and 2300 for my SGT. My Xoom runs it 1800 to 1900.
Good luck in your search.
de5gravity said:
Hello people
I am looking to buy a tablet, and I can not afford the newest one simply because they are too expensive.
I may be able to get the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" and I was wondering if it was still worth it.
Is it the screen very responsive? Is it fast? Is 2.3 that important and should I look for a newer one, or is this product still good in terms of browsing the web, documents, some games, music?
And between this and the Toshiba Folio, bearing in mind the Folio is much cheaper, which would you pick? (or do you have another suggestion? I live in France)
Thank you for your answers
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I just got my Sprint Tab a couple of days ago and I love it. I already had an iPad but wanted something different and more portable. Its plenty fast and responsive and just really seems to hit the sweet spot for me.
I replace my Archos 70 8GB with Galaxy Tab Wifi ($390.- at local shop in Bangkok). It is much better than my Archos which I think it was a great product.
The screen is very responsive and the LCD quality is excellent (PLS technology).
I don't find it laggy at all. Only negative area is it can't play HD video. (Galaxy Tab 3G use more powerful CPU/Chip). It's superb in other areas.
The tab is rock solid on Froyo! Yes the stock lags at times but till date it had yet to crash or freeze...with Roto JMIv2 the thing flies!
Am absolutely in love with it and if I had the money I would buy another one...the 7 inch size and Froyo is darn good....I don't understand at all what the people who complain about Froyo being not optimized for tablet are talking about...!!! All apps I have loaded till date works great! I watch movies anime and tv show on this...my netbook is lying in storage since I got this and when on personal travel I shove the tab into the camera bag with the kindle and off I go...
Pop in a sim card and I can surf the net anywhere...much better than surfing on a tiny screen on a mobile phone...
Am never going to consider anything above 7 inch and without being SIM enabled.
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I've had mine GT for about a month and really enjoy it. Easier to haul around than a Netbook, or in Ipad or Xoom even.
I had a Nook, but didn't like it as the screen was of cheap quality(the whites had a yellow tint to it(tried another, it was the same). The whites on the GT are WHITE no doubt about it. Build quality is very solid on the GT.
However, if you are on a budget, nook is fairly solid with the proper software roms.
But the GT is very solid and even with the release of the WIFI version only soon, it will bring even more users in the fold.
There is a lot of people holding off for the "Next best thing" but, honestly, I'd rather be playing and using something now, instead of waiting 6 months or so to play with something that May or May not kick ass.
Dive right in, the GT water is fine.
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I believe Galaxy Tab is now the best 7" tablet in the market (Archos 70 is the second, IMO); both spec/performance-wise and build quality. The price is also coming down to a more acceptable level.
I don't see any new 7" model coming out in the near future. If you are looking for a portable table, Galaxy Tab won't disappoint you.
I had my Tab for 2 months now and couldn't be happier with it. I do have the Overcome ROM and over clocked to 1.2GHz so its not stock (512Mb RAM is a bit limited as only 200Mb is usable).
I did have a Dell Strek 5" and an ipad, sold both since I got the Tab. To me the size makes it very versatile, I can fit it into most of my jackets and cary it all day without any discomfort.
Also the only other 7" tablet is the Dell Streak 7 which has shorter battery life and poor screen viewing angle, both are deal breaker for me. Plus I'd prefer a device with more RAM than dual core CPU.
The HTC Flyer is not out yet, and will cost almost twice what the Tab is selling.
P.S. ASDA Direct is selling the Tab for £299.
http://direct.asda.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab/000504480,default,pd.html
well thanks for the answers! you guys still seem excited about it. and OMG I saw the overcome 1.4 video, FREAKIN RESPONSIVE I was like "omg i need one now"
sadly the deal I found is not up anymore so I cant seem to find one cheap enough...unless I wanna pay for the next 6 months (the link someone posted here is out of stock)
SGT has had bad press and is severely underrated. I blame Samsung for positioning it at too high a price initially, and the tech press for comparing it directly with an iPad - which it is not. It's still the best small format tablet available and in the UK at least is a bargain at £299 or so. You'd pay a lot more for a lesser smartphone. Good thing is that Samsung seem to have finally woken up to this fact, and their next tablet releases look a lot more competitive price-wise. I'd still buy one now if I lost it though, purely due to how useful it is.
At OP check out my thread, where you can find it damn cheap
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Hey! Like I said it's out of stock, but thanks anyway
I have had my Tab for a while now and I love it. If I were you I would look for one on craigslist and one made for Tmobile. I say Tmobile because wth them you can use the tab with out getting a contract. I have heard that the sprint and verizon tabs force u to activate there's. And the size to me is great, a 10 inch screen just seems to big, if I wanted one that size I would just get a netbook. I also have the keyboard for it and the media dock which works great. I bought the media dock and keyboard from verizon and they gave me a discount for buying two accesories at once, so I saved some money.
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And once again I said I live in France. No craiglist and no Tmobile!
But I am looking into phone networks here.
Found it cheap on priceminister ! Yay!
Also one last question, of the ways to make it faster and more responsive, installing the custom rom Overcome is the only solution right? I got confused when reading the development threads...what else can one do?
OCLF installs the market. 2240 points in quadrant.This course if you know what you're doing and take that risk.
Sorry for my english, google translate
OCLF is a waste of time if you are on an EXT4 ROM.
Personally, i'm not convinced it does much on RFS ROMs either, other than improve the incredibly flawed Quadrant benchmark scores.
Regards,
Dave
I still use mine all the time despite buying the xoom. Works best in the car and as alarm clock.
Just walked by the TV and happened to see a La-Z-Boy advertisement.
In the ads, there's two chicks talking about colors or something...BUT! They're using a Xoom!!
http://www.la-z-boy.com/Design-Center/Ads/1/10052dd7-0ed1-4e1b-a16d-b0c358f11185/
Yeah!
K..........
cool.happy to be xoom user
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Just walked by the TV and happened to see a La-Z-Boy advertisement.
In the ads, there's two chicks talking about colors or something...BUT! They're using a Xoom!!
http://www.la-z-boy.com/Design-Center/Ads/1/10052dd7-0ed1-4e1b-a16d-b0c358f11185/
Yeah!
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Several Adobe Touch apps tutorials are on a Xoom. I think it will get more popular as the price has come down,it's an excellent device, it does what it does so well, and is guanteed to get ICS early on.
Agreed. In a world where almost all serious devices (I'm excluding low-end stuff from companies like Archos) share the same hardware, what makes a difference is the price and the build quality. And aside from an average quality screen (which still isn't THAT bad), the Xoom build is pretty much good quality. It feels solid in your hands, and the battery is also giving out good autonomy (and it charges REALLY fast). So a Xoom sold at a lower price should still be quite popular. Personally, my only gripe with it compared to other devices is its weight - and yet it's still light enough to be a comfortable eReader (I've read maybe 5 or 6 complete books on it so far).
But when your competition such as Amazon admit selling their device BELOW cost price (they are losing around $3 per Kindle Fire sold), it's hard to see how a company like Motorola that sells no content and only a handful of accessories can truly compete on pricing.
okantomi said:
Several Adobe Touch apps tutorials are on a Xoom. I think it will get more popular as the price has come down,it's an excellent device, it does what it does so well, and is guanteed to get ICS early on.
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The price has been going down. I got mine from dailysteals for $350. They sold 700 of them at this price.
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Also the german T-Mobile ad show the Xoom in the Telekom MediaCenter ad
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Agreed. In a world where almost all serious devices (I'm excluding low-end stuff from companies like Archos) share the same hardware, what makes a difference is the price and the build quality. And aside from an average quality screen (which still isn't THAT bad), the Xoom build is pretty much good quality. It feels solid in your hands, and the battery is also giving out good autonomy (and it charges REALLY fast). So a Xoom sold at a lower price should still be quite popular. Personally, my only gripe with it compared to other devices is its weight - and yet it's still light enough to be a comfortable eReader (I've read maybe 5 or 6 complete books on it so far).
But when your competition such as Amazon admit selling their device BELOW cost price (they are losing around $3 per Kindle Fire sold), it's hard to see how a company like Motorola that sells no content and only a handful of accessories can truly compete on pricing.
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The Kindle Fire has less flash memory (8 GB vs. 32 GB), no GPS, no Barometer, no Magnetometer/Compass, lacks Dual band WiFi, no Blutooth, no external flash (MicroSD), Cameras front or rear........doesn't have Team Tiamat
That list should make for a great deal of the price difference. Did I leave anything else off the list?
I get irrationally excited about each new Nexus device, and as such I pre-ordered the N9 as soon as I was able to (32GB version).
Today, I decided that the device is not worth the $500+ cost (including tax and shipping for the 32GB model). I already have a N7 (2013, 32GB), and N10 (16GB), and both still work great for my needs. All I really do is web-browsing and watch movies/TV (Hulu Plus, NetFlix, Google Play Movies) on my tablets, so what is this new device going to offer me in terms of real-world performance? I am a bit of a spec-whore, but the new N9 only has 2GB of RAM and a non-interesting PPI, so I don't feel like the N9 gives any bragging rights.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the N9 will be great, but for my needs, this will be the first Nexus device not making its way into my mailbox.
The N6, on the other hand, will definitely be replacing my N5!
Interesting, why did you decide that the Nexus 6 was a worthy upgrade while the Nexus 9 was not? I certainly understand thinking that neither is worth the upgrade, but the Nexus 9 looks to be a much bigger bump over the Nexus 7 than the Nexus 6 vs the 5. The 9's SoC is much more powerful than the 7's, while the 6 is more of a modest upgrade to the 5.
Nexus 9 is not a successor of the N7, it is from the N10
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Gosh you're making me second guess my pre order.
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Interesting, why did you decide that the Nexus 6 was a worthy upgrade while the Nexus 9 was not? I certainly understand thinking that neither is worth the upgrade, but the Nexus 9 looks to be a much bigger bump over the Nexus 7 than the Nexus 6 vs the 5. The 9's SoC is much more powerful than the 7's, while the 6 is more of a modest upgrade to the 5.
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I agree with this, but I was shocked at the nexus 6 price! No way I can afford that for a while, that's for sure! 4 kids near Xmas lol. I am interested to see the specs and price of the oneplus two! This company has a bright future, Thay just have to lose the frustrating invitation only system.
raptir said:
Interesting, why did you decide that the Nexus 6 was a worthy upgrade while the Nexus 9 was not? I certainly understand thinking that neither is worth the upgrade, but the Nexus 9 looks to be a much bigger bump over the Nexus 7 than the Nexus 6 vs the 5. The 9's SoC is much more powerful than the 7's, while the 6 is more of a modest upgrade to the 5.
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For my smartphone, the increased screen size of the N6 is useful for things like GPS, watching movies, and reading. I already watch a pretty large amount of video content on my phone, so a bigger screen will improve the experience.
Also, the N6 just looks so pretty
My Nexus 7's touch screen decided to stop working on the hardware side after a year (it took a hard fall while moving this summer but it was in a case) and I couldn't RMA it because the warrantee expired. I decided that the Nexus 9 was worth it for me because of the k1 Denver which is a huge upgrade over the N7 (2013) processor. The 2gb of RAM isn't ideal, however its still more than enough for me to play some games and use it for various things. I am also excited about the larger size, I had a LG G Pad 8.3 until it got water damaged and I miss the larger tablet experience. This summer was full of bad luck with devices for me so I am eager to start fresh with s great new tablet. I considered the Tab S for a while but I couldn't get over that terrible home button and capacitive keys on it. I know everyone is different and the price is high for a nexus but it's still cheaper than a pos ipad.
The nexus 7 can be sluggish at times when rendering complex web pages.
Try androidcentral for example. So I decided to swap it out.
I tried a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 which has an incredible screen and is quite good overall, but that god awful touchwiz with it's stupid small lags drove me nuts - so I sold it as well.
What remains is Nexus 9 I suppose.
I just can't accept a 32GB device. Not now. Not after I've had several devices now with 64GB of storage. My first Android tablet, 3 years ago...32GB plus a 32GB card.
I'll swap the N10 for the N9 and keep the N5 and it's a pretty easy decision for me.
While the N10 still is a great device with a superb display (for 10" tablet) it could use a little more power. I use it to read on the web most of the time and it's often sluggish while browsing now. That especially became apparent after I got the N5.
What's keeping me from getting the N6 is the size and also the price. 6" is just too big for a phone that's supposed to reside in my pocket. If it would be priced in the range of its predecessors I maybe would try it for the fun of it, but at 700 - definitely not.
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I'll swap the N10 for the N9 and keep the N5 and it's a pretty easy decision for me.
While the N10 still is a great device with a superb display (for 10" tablet) it could use a little more power. I use it to read on the web most of the time and it's often sluggish while browsing now. That especially became apparent after I got the N5.
What's keeping me from getting the N6 is the size and also the price. 6" is just too big for a phone that's supposed to reside in my pocket. If it would be priced in the range of its predecessors I maybe would try it for the fun of it, but at 700 - definitely not.
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Really like the sound of the Motorola droid turbo, monster of a phone! Also has a very large battery almost 4000mah
I pre-ordered an lte one from Best Buy and have similar thoughts Maybe the nvidia shield, but, decided to go through with it, and yes I feel its expensive. But had $25 in reward dollars and can pay it off over a year.
I do need a tablet with built in lte do to the fact we do a lot of short trips with medicore wifi, or the hotel charging for medicore wifi. Yes I can wifi tether but it burns the battery down on the phone, and being away, use that as well. Still have about a month to thnk about it, and if I change my mind, can just not open up the packaging and bring it the local BestBuy for a refund.
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I just can't accept a 32GB device. Not now. Not after I've had several devices now with 64GB of storage. My first Android tablet, 3 years ago...32GB plus a 32GB card.
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Depends on needs I suppose. It's no secret the N9 is targeting more productivity-oriented people. If I were primarily a multimedia/games consumer, I wouldn't be terribly interested in the N9.
For me though, I'm a student, and when I'm not doing student stuff, I'm generally doing emails, vid chat, web browsing, maybe a casual game occasionally like poker or something, so the N9 16GB is actually all I need. To be honest the only time I ever feel space constraints is when it comes to loading up a bunch of apps (which I'll never use) or putting HD movies on the device.
Plus, the availability of 64GB otg usb sticks for 40 or so bucks make that a non-issue really.
As for phones, I see no incentives to go from the N5 to the n6. Technically the N5 is still a better phone than most people are using, not to say that from an elitist sense, but the fact that as far as tech specs go, apps and everything else, it's got what most people need (or don't need considering the recent NFC shutoff debacle at walmart and other major retailers)... Especially considering I'm the type of person who will be carrying my N9 just about everywhere. I'm not going toward this "I'll read and browse on my phablet" trend. 6" is too small to enjoy doing tablet stuff, and it's too big to be a comfortable phone, in the pocket and in the hand.
ddb540 said:
I get irrationally excited about each new Nexus device, and as such I pre-ordered the N9 as soon as I was able to (32GB version).
Today, I decided that the device is not worth the $500+ cost (including tax and shipping for the 32GB model). I already have a N7 (2013, 32GB), and N10 (16GB), and both still work great for my needs. All I really do is web-browsing and watch movies/TV (Hulu Plus, NetFlix, Google Play Movies) on my tablets, so what is this new device going to offer me in terms of real-world performance? I am a bit of a spec-whore, but the new N9 only has 2GB of RAM and a non-interesting PPI, so I don't feel like the N9 gives any bragging rights.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the N9 will be great, but for my needs, this will be the first Nexus device not making its way into my mailbox.
The N6, on the other hand, will definitely be replacing my N5!
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It's kinda hard to hear someone say that the N9 is too expensive and then decide to go for the much more expensive N6 instead.
I agree that not everyone needs a ton of storage, but there's NO excuse for them to not even give us the option. OTG sticks out, can get broken off, and uses power. So no, it's not a non-issue.
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It's kinda hard to hear someone say that the N9 is too expensive and then decide to go for the much more expensive N6 instead.
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I can certainly understand the confusion, other than the fact that I didn't say the N9 is too expensive. What I said is that the cost of the device is not worth it FOR ME, given the devices I already have and the usage requirements for said devices. N9 will no doubt be a great device, and if I were buying a new tablet today, it would be the first (and only) one on my list.
Nemesis_00 said:
The nexus 7 can be sluggish at times when rendering complex web pages.
Try androidcentral for example. So I decided to swap it out.
I tried a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 which has an incredible screen and is quite good overall, but that god awful touchwiz with it's stupid small lags drove me nuts - so I sold it as well.
What remains is Nexus 9 I suppose.
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Don't forget to mention Knox
Well, if it didnt have knox I would have just gotten rid of the damn touchwiz. But then you'd have warranty problems in case the tablet decides to die someday.
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Well, if it didnt have knox I would have just gotten rid of the damn touchwiz. But then you'd have warranty problems in case the tablet decides to die someday.
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I got rid of n3 because of that Knox crap! Warranty void once triggered 0x1 ?
Hello Friends,
From last few days I m researching for best tablet available to buy. I was thinking of buying Nexus 9 but after reading lot of reviews regarding light bleed and heat, I'm Confused whether to buy it or should I go with Nvidia Shield Tablet. Please share your knowledge and issues if you own one of them.
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Hello Friends,
From last few days I m researching for best tablet available to buy. I was thinking of buying Nexus 9 but after reading lot of reviews regarding light bleed and heat, I'm Confused whether to buy it or should I go with Nvidia Shield Tablet. Please share your knowledge and issues if you own one of them.
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My experience with the shield tablet has been cracking, case separation, weak wifi and battery drain while plugged in.
gD ™ said:
Hello Friends,
From last few days I m researching for best tablet available to buy. I was thinking of buying Nexus 9 but after reading lot of reviews regarding light bleed and heat, I'm Confused whether to buy it or should I go with Nvidia Shield Tablet. Please share your knowledge and issues if you own one of them.
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I too was set on the Nexus 9 originally, But after Issues with Amazon about my pre-order, and reading up on some first impression reviews. I decided to get the Shield Tablet and honestly, I don't regret it. I was set on that 4:3 aspect ratio but the 16:9 is just natural already, coming from having a kindle fire previously.. With the Lollipop update, man this thing flies. No lag, No crashes (yet). I got viper4android and modified the audio configs and the sounds is fantastic. And having an Sd Card slot makes it better.
Asus memo 181 8 it's your better buy
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The question is a no brainer.
Have the Lte version for 7 weeks now and no cracks, no case separation, build quality is perfect and no problems with Wifi and Lte.
Just works perfect and with Android 5L update it's even little faster.
Comparable Nexus 9 with Lte still is here in Europe € 165,00 more expensive and has no MicroSd slot.
But you have to make your own choice.
Do you had any lag or battery problem
no, I didn't and still don't.
Snah001 said:
The question is a no brainer.
Have the Lte version for 7 weeks now and no cracks, no case separation, build quality is perfect and no problems with Wifi and Lte.
Just works perfect and with Android 5L update it's even little faster.
Comparable Nexus 9 with Lte still is here in Europe € 165,00 more expensive and has no MicroSd slot.
But you have to make your own choice.
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no, I didn't and still don't.
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Ok. Thanks for this. Will consider shield or ipad mini retina
Save your money on the iPad and N9. I bought my WiFi version a couple weeks back and the only problem I had was that something borked my MicroSD during the 5.0 update. Aside from that this unit rocks and wouldn't give it up for anything.
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Are you also using shield tablet ?
I have a pile, and I mean a PILE of tablets, I'd take the nexus 9 over anything out today.
I gave up on the Nexus 9 and went back to the Shield Tablet (LTE).
Had planned on selling the Shield but in the end, I couldn't get over the build quality issues with the N9.
I tried to like it, I really wanted to, had been looking forward to it since it was announced. The first unit I received was ok for the most part, but then it just randomly crapped out. The replacement had horrific light bleed, something that usually doesn't bother me at all. In the end, it didn't make sense to give up LTE and expandable storage, while paying a $100 premium.
That said, I know Nvidia has had their share of build issues w/ the Shield Tablet, but I've been fortunate so far...and that's likely been the difference maker. I might consider an N9 again when the price drops (if nothing better is out), if I could get my hands on a decent unit.
I've also owned dang near every Asus/Samsung/Nexus tablet since the original Xoom.
They've all had their pros, cons, and quirks...but right now I'm most satisfied with the Shield...just my $0.02
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I have a pile, and I mean a PILE of tablets, I'd take the nexus 9 over anything out today.
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Have you tried the nst? Because the nexus9 does not compare. In my opinion, just like Apple products, a hype product but implemented poorly... Htc could have done so much better if they didn't target Ipad lovers. It's too expensive and it does next to nothing. The 4:3 ratio doesn't make sense. Lack of sd card slot is just a bad decision. Sorry, but i can't agree
Add me to the list of people who had their heart set on a Nexus 9 for weeks and ended up going with the Shield instead. The Shield is by far my favorite Android device of all that I have owned or used.
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Same, I'm Nexi guy for last three years only, I passed this year and went with team Shield. I'm quite happy with it, even with supposed issues as what device doesn't have them. But this with LTE an SD card ability wins.
WR
Shield tablet. Not only is it a better build quality, but it has expandable memory slot up to 128 GB, and it is cheaper. On top of that if you plan to do ANY type of gaming; the Shield will come out on top (especially with the insanely nice controller) . Nvidia is also very quick with pushing updates. Shield is also the only tablet besides the nexus devices that have lollipop . Oh yea... and it has a built in stylus with some pretty cool bundled stylus apps that utilize the K1 to its fullest!
As with most people here who were set on the N9 I went with the Sheild Tablet. I actually had a Galaxy Tab S 8.4" for a few months, both Tab S and Shield for a few weeks and now just the Shield
Few turn offs for N9, like most no expandable storage and being forced to shell out almost $500 for 32gb but a big downer too for me is I can't palm the N9 with 1 hand comfortably.
What sold me on Shield Tablet, SD card obviously, the pen is a neat bonus especially for Citrix my company uses, magnetic cover is bad ass, totally worth the $40, compact form, I can stick with Kitkat and xposed for multi window and other features (having Google Maps and Waze open in the same view is a must for me as I drive like 45k miles a year)
FWIW the Tab S 8.4" perks were IR blaster, very stable multi view, email client, AMOLED screen obviously, ridiculously thin and light. Downers were AMOLED's degrade over time, not the fastest thing out there, Google maps and Waze lag always.. not bad lag but just it's never smooth. AMOLED screen was the main deal breaker, I plan to keep this for 2-3 years. I just now upgraded from an original TF101
After using a Galaxy S2 abusively for two years, I still have no idea where the thing that AMOLEDs degrade over time comes from. It still looks embarrassingly good, especially in a dark room, even now.
If the Nexus 9 experience is anything like the Nexus 7, we aren't missing much. Except an extra preloaded app or four (Fitness, Docs, Sheets, Slides) to add to the growing repertoire of Apps So Good That Users Can't Be Trusted To Install Themselves on Nexus devices.
Despite the Shield's obviously inferior screen compared to the Tab S, I gotta say NVIDIA still made it look really good. Light leakage is only obvious when starting apps or the tablet with a black screen.
I still maintain that the Shield is the best tablet you can buy right now. I've had zero issues with mine, except occasional lag on Lollipop after heavy usage, and this is remedied (for me, at least) by opening recent apps and clearing out the ones I'm not using. I imagine it'll be fixed in due time, as Nvidia has been fantastic with updates (my girlfriend's Nexus 7 LTE is still on 4.4, for what it's worth...). I do have hairline cracks at three of four corners, but I'm not so petty as to let some heat expansions lead me to conclude it's not a fantastic tablet; the blemishes have no impact on performance, and a responsive interface is what was important to me.
As for the Nexus 9, I was worried that I was too impatient when I got the Shield as I knew the new Nexus was coming out soon, but after reading the reviews (most are underwhelming), I don't have any regrets. I also wanted a form factor that could fit in my back pocket (as does the Shield, even with the cover), and the Nexus couldn't.
As a slight disclaimer, the stylus was a major selling point for me--I use my tablet in meetings for taking notes, and don't want a bulky keyboard attachment. I'm also not a gamer, though I have spent far longer than I expected to using Nvidia's GRID service. If you don't care about the stylus (or would prefer the Nexus 9's keyboard folio), or you don't want to play games at all (warning: that was my stance before having this tablet), the Nexus 9 is probably an equally viable choice.
I wouldn't touch the N9 if you gave me one. Google gimped the drivers and removed desktop OpenGl, which completely nerfs the tablet's gaming and emulation capabilities. Plus the build issues like light bleed and the 32Gb cap with no sd card. While the K1 in the N9 is a bit faster on paper, the absence of desktop openGl completely counteracts that. Unless you are using your N9 purely for web browsing and productivity apps I see absolutely no reason to spend an extra $100
Nexus 6P is $50 off with Free overnight shipping until December 22 listed, I've never owned a smartphone that didn't have expandable storage (EVO 4G, Samsung Note2, Note4, Moto X Pure is my first without removable battery yet still enjoy the sdcard option) but have also tried USB OTG which is seems easy enough for transfers-expansion but wondering what size Nexus 6P people bought here & if they still think they made the right selection?
If N6P came with a replaceable battery, OIS for video recording, I'd get the 64 or 128 GB model but I'm still considering the 32 GB model because it'll likely be supplanted within 12 months but would appreciate some feedback from actual owners especially those who could comment on 4K video size & video recording size implications on this device..
Thanks!
i think 64 may be the sweet spot in terms of value. 32 is definitely too small for me. I've always filled up 32 gb too quick, especially on a nexus with nandroid backups and titanium backups. I got the 128gb and I'm very happy with that size. To me when i'm already spending so much, $100 more or less doesn't really make or break it and i'll probably keep the device close to 2 years. Yes, it may be suplanted in 12 months, but the nexus that supplants it will also lack removable storage and removeable battery.
Thanks, not sure why this thread is not visible in the XDA app without viewing in browser..I'll probably order the 64GB especially now that it's the same price the 32GB was a couple days ago..if for some reason I'm disappointed with the Nexus 6P I could return it but I hope it exceeds my somewhat skeptical expectations..
I went the 128gb route this time. I probably could have been ok with 64, but decided that it wasn't all that much more to get the most I could. I did this just to make sure i had enough room down the road. I would avoid the 32gb version as I have mine just about to that point and i don't really think I am that big of a data user, just seems to add up fast
32gb is fine for me, I have many apps and games on my phone and am only using 5gb, plenty of room for pictures and video if need be.
So completely user dependent. The N5 is still a completely viable phone, and it maxed out at 32GB.
I went with the 64GB because it was the value sweetspot to me, and since I have a child I plan to save a few movies for those waiting rooms and such instead of needing to stream them.
The one thing I will mention, if you really think you'll replace it in a year, you'll likely have an easier time selling the 64/128 configurations.
How much of the 32GB is user accessible?
Not too worried about photos as much as 4K video & slow mo video space demands.. I assume could be offloaded via USB OTG but that might get annoying..good to hear some are satisfied with 32GB however.
64GB should have better futureproof resale value than 32GB but I've never actually sold an old device rather keep them around as backups but they are starting to pile up I read a recent article that factory resets don't really delete data on Android but isn't everything encrypted by default now without a significant performance hit..?
I've had the Samsung S4 with 16 GB which I always thought was not enough, however I've always had a fast MicroSD card wiht 64GB which I stored all of my photos, music and videos on. This was plenty and so when I found a deal on the Nexus 6P for 450, I jumped on it. It was brand new and unlocked with two cases. I have had 20 GB of music typically, a lot of photos, and a few videos, 2 Nandroid backups and backups for apps for quick installs. When I went with the Nexus, after a couple of problematic flashes, which makes me love the external SD, because I never erased it by accident and makes it easy for re-flashing, I found that I will not be storing photos on it as I just backup to Google photos.
have you seen this review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9820/the-google-nexus-6p-review
it lays out the good with the bad. my biggest concerns were it being too big and the battery, and it hasn't been bad in either area.
One thing you can ask yourself is what are you storing on your current phone with the SD card? Do you still want to be able to carry that data around with you? Are you using it?
I went with the 64GB after considering those points. I had a G3 with a 64GB SD card loaded with movies and music... but the reality, I didn't really need/use it. I think I was doing it because I could. That's just me though. Some people do want to carry around their whole music catalogue.
Same goes for filming video - ask yourself how much you are doing now? It's probably a strong indicator of your future use.
(FWIW - I agree that when it comes to resale, the 64GB model probably marks the sweet spot)
Thanks I'll read through any review that actual owners think is fair..
I have 128 GB cards nearly full of videos but like you I don't really need all of them rather was doing it because I could & still could on the Nexus 6P I assume with USB OTG.. music library is uploaded to Google Music but are there cloud services that can stream HD videos as well as local-probably none that I'd entirely trust-there are even photos that I'd rather not trust in the cloud?
I should mention that I've considered Nexus handsets in the past but they always lost to the competition in side by side comparisons starting from the Evo 4G to Note 2 to Note 4 last year which beat the Nexus 6 in side by side comparisons. On paper the Nexus 6P looks interesting but I haven't been able to run side by side comparisons yet (coming to Best Buy soon apparently).. Note 5 having lost its removable battery & storage no longer trumps more versatile unlocked devices like the Moto X Pure which I own & prefer especially with its rich front facing stereo speakers but since I want longer battery, fingerprint sensor & latest updates to a bright screen (though not as bright as MXP I've read) with front facing stereo speakers (which I'm told are louder but not as rich as MXP), I think this year is time to give Nexus handsets another try..if the 64GB aluminum is still available at $499+tax tomorrow Noon I'll probably pull the proverbial trigger unless this thread directs elsewhere..
The only reservation I have about the 128GB memory is its effect on battery life. Does anyone know a formula to compute the effect of greater memory on battery life?
I got the 32GB version in graphite grey because this was the only one I could obtain from Vodafone. Well, I would have loved the 64GB version too but worst case I could use a USB Type C stick for extra storage with some movies on it.
Thanks everyone so I ordered the 64GB Aluminum today (with expected overnight delivery by Monday or Tuesday) which including $36.80 in sales tax was $535.80..hope I like it more than http://www.anandtech.com/show/9820/the-google-nexus-6p-review seems to..
I'll have to check out sRGB mode because I'm not a fan of oversaturated AMOLED cartoony artificial looking colors but it never stopped me completely from buying Samsung Note 2 & 4 (still in Adapative display but switch modes on occasion) but do enjoy the natural non-saturated colors of MXP including clean LCD whites (even went away from default Vibrant mode to Normal Mode in its screen mode):
"I'd like to mention that I tested both the device's default colour calibration as well as its sRGB calibration. This setting is rather hidden for the average user: You have to enable the developer options menu by tapping repeatedly on the "Build Number" found in Settings => About Phone, after which the menu will appear under the global settings menu. It's a pity that Google didn't make this option more accessible via the general display settings, but it will be required to access if you care about accurate colour reproduction on the Nexus 6P."
"With Snapdragon 820 phones coming in just a few months there’s also the viable option to hold out for better alternatives as we're on the verge of a large generational jump that will undoubtedly bring a lot of improvements to the table."
Am I going to regret the Nexus 6P when Snapdragon 820 phones come soon?