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Note 1 vs Nexus 4

Anyone think I should sell my Note 1 for the new Nexus? I love the power of it but I am worried about going to a smaller screen. Storage isnt a big deal to me. Anyone made the switch and are happy with it? I love pure google, quad core, and 2gb ram with the low price.

Eric-1987 said:
Anyone think I should sell my Note 1 for the new Nexus? I love the power of it but I am worried about going to a smaller screen. Storage isnt a big deal to me. Anyone made the switch and are happy with it? I love pure google, quad core, and 2gb ram with the low price.
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Power of note 1? The note 2 doesn't even stack up to nexus 4. The screen is so much better imo.. The note has big icons that make the phone sorta look like a toy. The screen on this phone is amazing and the size is perfect.
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I was referring to the Nexus 4. I don't plan to keep it stock so my Note 1 doesn't have big icons. How does the camera stack up to the note 1's camera? Nexus 4 has a higher pixel density but is the display actually better? And I thought the Adreno 320 was faster than the Mali 400

Im having the same debate. Here are my thoughts:
Im pretty happy with my note. However, for the following reasons, I am strongly considering a nexus 4, and infact have one preordered and scheduled to arrive in a week or two:
1. Most importantly: SLOW TO GET UPDATES, thanks to samsung and AT&T. I understand this is the process, and I expected it upfront, but it is irksome, none the less.
2. While I love the larger screen, I do find myself thinking quite often, damn i wish i had a phone i could use easily with one hand
3. Its pretty slow at times, which is a common complaint, and locks up here and there.
But my concerns with the nexus are the obvious ones:
1. No LTE - Yes, my note is fast, but I don't often stream things like Netflix, etc, so would I really care all that much? Plus, As I have come to understand, you can get it to support LTE...maybe. (keep i nmind I have AT&T which is one of the 'supported' bands...)
2. No removable battery - I dont really care about getting a larger battery though, but my concern is what happens when the battery starts to give out?
3. No external storage- I don't really use my SD card now, and 16 is more than enough, considering most of my data is on the cloud already. If i were a heavier user of 3rd party Mods / roms, and rooting features, I am sure this would be a deal breaker. Fortunately, I am not. For the record though, I am rooted
4. Made by LG:
I've heard the refresh rate is not great on the screen, and with jelly-beans purported "liquid butter" experience, it is fairly noticeable
I've heard about the issues with the shielding on the earpiece components.
SO my question is - what do fellow owners, or even other phablet owners think? Will i miss the larger screen for web browsing? The LTE? or will i be happier witha a more portable phone, that has all the latest android goodies? Opinions? thoughts?

mschiraldi said:
Im having the same debate. Here are my thoughts:
Im pretty happy with my note. However, for the following reasons, I am strongly considering a nexus 4, and infact have one preordered and scheduled to arrive in a week or two:
1. Most importantly: SLOW TO GET UPDATES, thanks to samsung and AT&T. I understand this is the process, and I expected it upfront, but it is irksome, none the less.
2. While I love the larger screen, I do find myself thinking quite often, damn i wish i had a phone i could use easily with one hand
3. Its pretty slow at times, which is a common complaint, and locks up here and there.
But my concerns with the nexus are the obvious ones:
1. No LTE - Yes, my note is fast, but I don't often stream things like Netflix, etc, so would I really care all that much? Plus, As I have come to understand, you can get it to support LTE...maybe. (keep i nmind I have AT&T which is one of the 'supported' bands...)
2. No removable battery - I dont really care about getting a larger battery though, but my concern is what happens when the battery starts to give out?
3. No external storage- I don't really use my SD card now, and 16 is more than enough, considering most of my data is on the cloud already. If i were a heavier user of 3rd party Mods / roms, and rooting features, I am sure this would be a deal breaker. Fortunately, I am not. For the record though, I am rooted
4. Made by LG:
I've heard the refresh rate is not great on the screen, and with jelly-beans purported "liquid butter" experience, it is fairly noticeable
I've heard about the issues with the shielding on the earpiece components.
SO my question is - what do fellow owners, or even other phablet owners think? Will i miss the larger screen for web browsing? The LTE? or will i be happier witha a more portable phone, that has all the latest android goodies? Opinions? thoughts?
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The current widespread LTE band that AT&T uses is NOT the one in the Nexus 4.
If the battery starts to give out, buy a new battery and replace it. The back comes off easily with some time and a small screwdriver.
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[Q] Nexus 9 or Nvidia Shield Tablet

Hello Friends,
From last few days I m researching for best tablet available to buy. I was thinking of buying Nexus 9 but after reading lot of reviews regarding light bleed and heat, I'm Confused whether to buy it or should I go with Nvidia Shield Tablet. Please share your knowledge and issues if you own one of them.

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Hello Friends,
From last few days I m researching for best tablet available to buy. I was thinking of buying Nexus 9 but after reading lot of reviews regarding light bleed and heat, I'm Confused whether to buy it or should I go with Nvidia Shield Tablet. Please share your knowledge and issues if you own one of them.
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My experience with the shield tablet has been cracking, case separation, weak wifi and battery drain while plugged in.

gD ™ said:
Hello Friends,
From last few days I m researching for best tablet available to buy. I was thinking of buying Nexus 9 but after reading lot of reviews regarding light bleed and heat, I'm Confused whether to buy it or should I go with Nvidia Shield Tablet. Please share your knowledge and issues if you own one of them.
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I too was set on the Nexus 9 originally, But after Issues with Amazon about my pre-order, and reading up on some first impression reviews. I decided to get the Shield Tablet and honestly, I don't regret it. I was set on that 4:3 aspect ratio but the 16:9 is just natural already, coming from having a kindle fire previously.. With the Lollipop update, man this thing flies. No lag, No crashes (yet). I got viper4android and modified the audio configs and the sounds is fantastic. And having an Sd Card slot makes it better.

Asus memo 181 8 it's your better buy
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The question is a no brainer.
Have the Lte version for 7 weeks now and no cracks, no case separation, build quality is perfect and no problems with Wifi and Lte.
Just works perfect and with Android 5L update it's even little faster.
Comparable Nexus 9 with Lte still is here in Europe € 165,00 more expensive and has no MicroSd slot.
But you have to make your own choice.

Do you had any lag or battery problem

no, I didn't and still don't.

Snah001 said:
The question is a no brainer.
Have the Lte version for 7 weeks now and no cracks, no case separation, build quality is perfect and no problems with Wifi and Lte.
Just works perfect and with Android 5L update it's even little faster.
Comparable Nexus 9 with Lte still is here in Europe € 165,00 more expensive and has no MicroSd slot.
But you have to make your own choice.
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no, I didn't and still don't.
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Ok. Thanks for this. Will consider shield or ipad mini retina

Save your money on the iPad and N9. I bought my WiFi version a couple weeks back and the only problem I had was that something borked my MicroSD during the 5.0 update. Aside from that this unit rocks and wouldn't give it up for anything.
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Are you also using shield tablet ?

I have a pile, and I mean a PILE of tablets, I'd take the nexus 9 over anything out today.

I gave up on the Nexus 9 and went back to the Shield Tablet (LTE).
Had planned on selling the Shield but in the end, I couldn't get over the build quality issues with the N9.
I tried to like it, I really wanted to, had been looking forward to it since it was announced. The first unit I received was ok for the most part, but then it just randomly crapped out. The replacement had horrific light bleed, something that usually doesn't bother me at all. In the end, it didn't make sense to give up LTE and expandable storage, while paying a $100 premium.
That said, I know Nvidia has had their share of build issues w/ the Shield Tablet, but I've been fortunate so far...and that's likely been the difference maker. I might consider an N9 again when the price drops (if nothing better is out), if I could get my hands on a decent unit.
I've also owned dang near every Asus/Samsung/Nexus tablet since the original Xoom.
They've all had their pros, cons, and quirks...but right now I'm most satisfied with the Shield...just my $0.02

di11igaf said:
I have a pile, and I mean a PILE of tablets, I'd take the nexus 9 over anything out today.
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Have you tried the nst? Because the nexus9 does not compare. In my opinion, just like Apple products, a hype product but implemented poorly... Htc could have done so much better if they didn't target Ipad lovers. It's too expensive and it does next to nothing. The 4:3 ratio doesn't make sense. Lack of sd card slot is just a bad decision. Sorry, but i can't agree

Add me to the list of people who had their heart set on a Nexus 9 for weeks and ended up going with the Shield instead. The Shield is by far my favorite Android device of all that I have owned or used.
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Same, I'm Nexi guy for last three years only, I passed this year and went with team Shield. I'm quite happy with it, even with supposed issues as what device doesn't have them. But this with LTE an SD card ability wins.
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Shield tablet. Not only is it a better build quality, but it has expandable memory slot up to 128 GB, and it is cheaper. On top of that if you plan to do ANY type of gaming; the Shield will come out on top (especially with the insanely nice controller) . Nvidia is also very quick with pushing updates. Shield is also the only tablet besides the nexus devices that have lollipop . Oh yea... and it has a built in stylus with some pretty cool bundled stylus apps that utilize the K1 to its fullest!

As with most people here who were set on the N9 I went with the Sheild Tablet. I actually had a Galaxy Tab S 8.4" for a few months, both Tab S and Shield for a few weeks and now just the Shield
Few turn offs for N9, like most no expandable storage and being forced to shell out almost $500 for 32gb but a big downer too for me is I can't palm the N9 with 1 hand comfortably.
What sold me on Shield Tablet, SD card obviously, the pen is a neat bonus especially for Citrix my company uses, magnetic cover is bad ass, totally worth the $40, compact form, I can stick with Kitkat and xposed for multi window and other features (having Google Maps and Waze open in the same view is a must for me as I drive like 45k miles a year)
FWIW the Tab S 8.4" perks were IR blaster, very stable multi view, email client, AMOLED screen obviously, ridiculously thin and light. Downers were AMOLED's degrade over time, not the fastest thing out there, Google maps and Waze lag always.. not bad lag but just it's never smooth. AMOLED screen was the main deal breaker, I plan to keep this for 2-3 years. I just now upgraded from an original TF101

After using a Galaxy S2 abusively for two years, I still have no idea where the thing that AMOLEDs degrade over time comes from. It still looks embarrassingly good, especially in a dark room, even now.
If the Nexus 9 experience is anything like the Nexus 7, we aren't missing much. Except an extra preloaded app or four (Fitness, Docs, Sheets, Slides) to add to the growing repertoire of Apps So Good That Users Can't Be Trusted To Install Themselves on Nexus devices.
Despite the Shield's obviously inferior screen compared to the Tab S, I gotta say NVIDIA still made it look really good. Light leakage is only obvious when starting apps or the tablet with a black screen.

I still maintain that the Shield is the best tablet you can buy right now. I've had zero issues with mine, except occasional lag on Lollipop after heavy usage, and this is remedied (for me, at least) by opening recent apps and clearing out the ones I'm not using. I imagine it'll be fixed in due time, as Nvidia has been fantastic with updates (my girlfriend's Nexus 7 LTE is still on 4.4, for what it's worth...). I do have hairline cracks at three of four corners, but I'm not so petty as to let some heat expansions lead me to conclude it's not a fantastic tablet; the blemishes have no impact on performance, and a responsive interface is what was important to me.
As for the Nexus 9, I was worried that I was too impatient when I got the Shield as I knew the new Nexus was coming out soon, but after reading the reviews (most are underwhelming), I don't have any regrets. I also wanted a form factor that could fit in my back pocket (as does the Shield, even with the cover), and the Nexus couldn't.
As a slight disclaimer, the stylus was a major selling point for me--I use my tablet in meetings for taking notes, and don't want a bulky keyboard attachment. I'm also not a gamer, though I have spent far longer than I expected to using Nvidia's GRID service. If you don't care about the stylus (or would prefer the Nexus 9's keyboard folio), or you don't want to play games at all (warning: that was my stance before having this tablet), the Nexus 9 is probably an equally viable choice.

I wouldn't touch the N9 if you gave me one. Google gimped the drivers and removed desktop OpenGl, which completely nerfs the tablet's gaming and emulation capabilities. Plus the build issues like light bleed and the 32Gb cap with no sd card. While the K1 in the N9 is a bit faster on paper, the absence of desktop openGl completely counteracts that. Unless you are using your N9 purely for web browsing and productivity apps I see absolutely no reason to spend an extra $100

Nexus 5X specs, underwhelmed

I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.

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I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.
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Sounds like you need Sony Z5 compact. However I will say I love my Moto X pure and once you get used to the size it is not bad. I started out with the S4, then G2 and swore that 5.2 is my limit, then moved to 5.5 and swore that was my limit and now I'm at 5.7 and love it. It is a lot smaller than the 6P so I recommend it

The thing is the 2013 nexus 5 still feels as fast as any phone with google's android. Upping the processor but keeping the resolution means it will be even more capable. I mean it has 1080p but the same processor as the G4 which people feel is a great phone. It is going to run like a dream. I wouldn't be surprised if it outperforms WQHD phones running the 810. Just backup your photos/videos and delete them from the phone once in awhile.

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cabadam said:
I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.
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Hey man, I feel your pain. I cancelled my order of the 5X after contemplating for a while. It has the specs of the HTC One M7 I had two years ago. It's just unacceptable. If you're someone who has music stored on your phone, has MANY pictures, this might not be the phone for you. If you stream your music, use google photos (online), then you probably be OK with 32GB. 16GB is just a no no.
Like I told someone else in another thread, make a nandroid backup, have a couple ROMS loaded into your phone, you'll already have your storage full on your 16GB phone lol...
I'm really just going to watch many videos and full reviews of the 5X when the time comes; if I hear great things about it I might consider. Like someone said, I agree with Nexus 5 (2013) phones working great and buttery smooth even til now, so why wouldn't the new one?

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Sounds like you need Sony Z5 compact. However I will say I love my Moto X pure and once you get used to the size it is not bad. I started out with the S4, then G2 and swore that 5.2 is my limit, then moved to 5.5 and swore that was my limit and now I'm at 5.7 and love it. It is a lot smaller than the 6P so I recommend it
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I'll take a look at the Z5, that wasn't on my radar. Thanks for the feedback. And yeah, a couple people at work here are telling me that it is just a matter of getting used to the larger phone, that once I do I won't care anymore. I'm skeptical lol...
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The thing is the 2013 nexus 5 still feels as fast as any phone with google's android. Upping the processor but keeping the resolution means it will be even more capable. I mean it has 1080p but the same processor as the G4 which people feel is a great phone. It is going to run like a dream. I wouldn't be surprised if it outperforms WQHD phones running the 810. Just backup your photos/videos and delete them from the phone once in awhile.
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Yeah, I've definitely heard how well the 2013 Nexus 5 kept up - and I guess that's what I was hoping for in the new phone, but it seems the specs are more oriented to "today", not "tomorrow". I think the processsor is fine, RAM I can live with, but that darn 32GB storage. Yikes.
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Hey man, I feel your pain. I cancelled my order of the 5X after contemplating for a while. It has the specs of the HTC One M7 I had two years ago. It's just unacceptable. If you're someone who has music stored on your phone, has MANY pictures, this might not be the phone for you. If you stream your music, use google photos (online), then you probably be OK with 32GB. 16GB is just a no no.
Like I told someone else in another thread, make a nandroid backup, have a couple ROMS loaded into your phone, you'll already have your storage full on your 16GB phone lol...
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This is the EXACT situation I find myself in on my Galaxy S4. Fortunately because of my SD card, that isn't an issue. Given that the Nexus doesn't offer that, it just seems like the 32GB will fill up very fast. I don't want to move to my new phone and then be fighting storage problems all over again in 6-12 months. Apps, etc are only getting larger and fancier as time goes on.

cant have everything at this price point

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cant have everything at this price point
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I'd be perfectly willing to pay for the $50 or whatever to step up from 32GB to 64GB, just like you would typically do. (Well, I still think $50 is overpriced for that, but I'd do it anyway!) But it isn't even an option on the 5X.

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I'd be perfectly willing to pay for the $50 or whatever to step up from 32GB to 64GB, just like you would typically do. (Well, I still think $50 is overpriced for that, but I'd do it anyway!) But it isn't even an option on the 5X.
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well i dont think its that simple. adding one more option adds to the cost of manufacturing and logistics etc which changes their bottom line and marketing tactic or whatever.

I'm more let down by the ram than storage space... 2gb... really? I know my note 4 doesn't have that much more, but my previous phone had 2gb, and I was running low on memory at times.

5X is physically WAY bigger than the LG G2 and there is no wireless charging. 16GB storage with no microSD slot shouldn't exist. This thing is definitely a dud.

I ordered the 32GB version and was annoyed to have to pay $50 extra for it. The 2GB of RAM is beat.

Y'all can't keep comparing an older phone with older processors and operating systems to a newer phone
"I ran out of ram on my 3 year old phone with 2gb of ram blah blah whine whine cry cry"
My newer v6 jeep is faster and more efficient in every way than my old v8 jeep. Same concept. Newer design. Newer technology. Different device.
Between marshmallow, sensor hub, 808 processor, and other newer aspects of the phone. 2gb is fine.
My Nexus 6 running M Preview hasn't used more than 1.4gb ram. And the hardware in the n6 is inferior to the n5x
BEFORE CONTINUING TO CRY ABOUT THE 2GB OF RAM.. PLEASE WAIT TO SEE REAL WORLD RESULTS AND REVIEWS

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Y'all can't keep comparing an older phone with older processors and operating systems to a newer phone
"I ran out of ram on my 3 year old phone with 2gb of ram blah blah whine whine cry cry"
My newer v6 jeep is faster and more efficient in every way than my old v8 jeep. Same concept. Newer design. Newer technology. Different device.
Between marshmallow, sensor hub, 808 processor, and other newer aspects of the phone. 2gb is fine.
My Nexus 6 running M Preview hasn't used more than 1.4gb ram. And the hardware in the n6 is inferior to the n5x
BEFORE CONTINUING TO CRY ABOUT THE 2GB OF RAM.. PLEASE WAIT TO SEE REAL WORLD RESULTS AND REVIEWS
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I'm mostly worried about the max of 32GB storage, not the 2GB of RAM (the RAM is just... annoying).

cabadam said:
I'm mostly worried about the max of 32GB storage, not the 2GB of RAM (the RAM is just... annoying).
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I've personally never ran out of space on a 32gb phone but I can definitely see this as an issue for some. For instance those who nandroid alot and those who store their music locally on their phone. An OTG would be a solution but a hassle to have to constantly plug in when you want to use it.
Personally I'd rather buy an OTG for those cases for super cheap than spend an extra $100 for a higher capacity phone

I was so hoping that Google would put a device that was true to the original nexus roots..I felt so let down by the N6
The specs of the N5X are mediocre at best.
16GB mem?
No wireless charging..c'mon..
Don't get me wrong - you're getting a fair bit for the money but I feel they've let the ball drop in a couple of key areas. Had they included those this phone would have smashed all the others..
6P is just way overpriced - huawei trying to get in at the top end of the market. It wont work.
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I was so hoping that Google would put a device that was true to the original nexus roots..I felt so let down by the N6
The specs of the N5X are mediocre at best.
16GB mem?
No wireless charging..c'mon..
Don't get me wrong - you're getting a fair bit for the money but I feel they've let the ball drop in a couple of key areas. Had they included those this phone would have smashed all the others..
6P is just way overpriced - huawei trying to get in at the top end of the market. It wont work.
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An S810, 3GB of RAM, a top of the line camera, fingerprint sensor, and a full metal design for $499, you think that's overpriced? I'd have to disagree, as most if not all phones boasting the same specs are at least $150 more.
Now onto the 5x, yeah, max 32gb rom is a let down, but at the same time, you can work with it. If it doesn't work for you then this isn't the phone for you (why I ordered the 6p). The more important letdown was the 2gb of ram (the bigger reason for me getting the 6p).
There are plenty of people who cannot and will not fill up a 32gb phone, I see it everyday. Just gotta get the device that's right for you ?

I feel my Nexus 5 is still as fast as the best of them today... which just shows how much technology has plateaued. The 1080p display still wows me compared to other 2K phones, and the processor is still fast to me. I don't think I'm willing to give my storm trooper up just yet... maybe the S7 or Nexus 5X2 will have the 820, 1080p, 4 GB of RAM and an awesome camera for 2016 standards.

After having wireless charging for over 2 years, I've sworn to never buy a phone without it again.
It is a wireless phone!
The only time, and I mean the only time, I plug anything into my phone is when I'm flashing it.
Music? Bluetooth. (Or I use a FiiO)
Hands free? Bluetooth
Charging? The official nexus charger is on the side of my nightstand so I can see the phone if it goes off in the middle of the night, and the standard LG WCP-300 elsewhere.
Synchronizing data? Wifi. This happens automatically every night when I'm at home with the "syncme" app
I mean sheeet...I am quite aware the new usb-c is more rugged than micro-usb is, and less annoying since it plugs in every way...but once you charge your phone by just literally setting it down...you're so glad to never have to fish for that stupid cord again.
I even borrowed a router (the woodworking kind) and made a hole in my desk for the LG charger...it sits flush on my desk now and it's like it is never there.
Screw cords. It's 2015.
If a home cordless phone that I buy for $30 or even less can charge without fishing around for a stupid cable to plug in, than DAMMIT, my $400+ cell phone should be able to as well!

Why sit around and cry about the ram and storage? If it isn't for you, get something that is for you, end of story. 32GB of ram is much more than I'd need, I keep all my music downloaded on my tablet, and never play games or do any heavy duty tasks on my phone so the 5X would work just great for me. Everything is made to fit the needs of some people, not all people.

To the guys that say 2GB RAM is not enough. Are you all talking about for heavy multitasking, gaming or general use? Genuinely curious about the need for >2GB RAM on a phone.

Nexus 5 to 6P Upgrade

So, I'm a college student, and my money has finally came back in to me. Working at my job, I've saved up enough money to get me a Nexus 6P finally.
Right now, I'm still really on the fence. I have an original Nexus 5, cracked screen, shot battery, and it has some slowdowns at times. Basically I want this newer phone to just be on the latest edge, but the biggest thing is the battery.
So a few questions.
Is battery really noticeably better? I get 2hours SOT on my N5, which I know is shot. I've restarted it at 40% battery and it showed 13 afterwards.
Do you think 128GB for 100 more dollars is worth it? I'm leaning toward yes, and purchasing the 128GB. My 32GB N5 is full, and it don't have all my music on it, could have lots more. I take pics a lot but don't rely on cloud services to backup. I have deleted some larger apps to open more space on my phone since I'm hovering around 500MB left. 64 is a lot, but 128 is a LOAD more. Is it worth it you think?
Thanks in advance!

snappycg1996 said:
So, I'm a college student, and my money has finally came back in to me. Working at my job, I've saved up enough money to get me a Nexus 6P finally.
Right now, I'm still really on the fence. I have an original Nexus 5, cracked screen, shot battery, and it has some slowdowns at times. Basically I want this newer phone to just be on the latest edge, but the biggest thing is the battery.
So a few questions.
Is battery really noticeably better? I get 2hours SOT on my N5, which I know is shot. I've restarted it at 40% battery and it showed 13 afterwards.
Do you think 128GB for 100 more dollars is worth it? I'm leaning toward yes, and purchasing the 128GB. My 32GB N5 is full, and it don't have all my music on it, could have lots more. I take pics a lot but don't rely on cloud services to backup. I have deleted some larger apps to open more space on my phone since I'm hovering around 500MB left. 64 is a lot, but 128 is a LOAD more. Is it worth it you think?
Thanks in advance!
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Honestly, only you can really answer whether it's worth it or not. The battery is pretty good, I usually get 4-5 hours screen on time. I bought the 64gb model because I can't see myself actually using the full 128gb. You have to ask yourself, do you have 128gb of crap that needs to be on your phone at once?

Heisenberg said:
Honestly, only you can really answer whether it's worth it or not. The battery is pretty good, I usually get 4-5 hours screen on time. I bought the 64gb model because I can't see myself actually using the full 128gb. You have to ask yourself, do you have 128gb of crap that needs to be on your phone at once?
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No, I really don't. Although I do have a lot of music in my iTunes not on my N5, plus the 6P can record 4K video and slow motion video I believe and burst mode. Which could potentially eat a lot of data.
Plus, for 100 dollars not only will I have a top Android phone, I'll have the biggest size and the best money can buy Nexus phone.
I just want others opinions if the extra 100 for double memory is worth it.

snappycg1996 said:
No, I really don't. Although I do have a lot of music in my iTunes not on my N5, plus the 6P can record 4K video and slow motion video I believe and burst mode. Which could potentially eat a lot of data.
Plus, for 100 dollars not only will I have a top Android phone, I'll have the biggest size and the best money can buy Nexus phone.
I just want others opinions if the extra 100 for double memory is worth it.
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If we're going by market value, no it isn't worth it (gb per dollar). What it really comes down to is whether it's worth it to you. Personally, I don't see the need for 128gb on my phone, but I've seen plenty of people claim that even 128gb isn't enough. If you buy the device you'll have a top Android phone regardless of the capacity you go for. It all comes down to whether you actually need that amount of storage.

I had 128, 111 available to user. Well I got the gold standard when it was released. Having the "largest" was not necessary like I thought. I got a better price better color and I still have plenty of memory. Roughly thirty one GB available still and I have like eighteen GB of music.. I did buy a cheap $30 prepaid device solely for caring a memory card with my music and movies to stream Gps etc.... But anyways, this Nexus will last me about 1-2 years given the battery capacity etc.... Sooooo going all the way to the top with memory isn't that serious I guess in the long run
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Heisenberg said:
Honestly, only you can really answer whether it's worth it or not. The battery is pretty good, I usually get 4-5 hours screen on time. I bought the 64gb model because I can't see myself actually using the full 128gb. You have to ask yourself, do you have 128gb of crap that needs to be on your phone at once?
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I had 128, 111 available to user. Well I got the gold standard when it was released. Having the "largest" was not necessary like I thought. I got a better price better color and I still have plenty of memory. Roughly thirty one GB available still and I have like eighteen GB of music.. I did buy a cheap $30 prepaid device solely for caring a memory card with my music and movies to stream Gps etc.... But anyways, this Nexus will last me about 1-2 years given the battery capacity etc.... Sooooo going all the way to the top with memory isn't that serious I guess in the long run
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I'm just curious if I'll be like that since I'll have all my music on here, and for 100 more, I double the memory. In theory it sounds like a good idea but I don't know anymore. Very hard to decide.

I also have a Nexus 5 (2013) 32GB and now a Nexus 6P 32GB. I could only get the smallest version from my provider (Vodafone) but I can live with the storage. I´m not somebody who needs to carry e.g. all Seasons of Family Guy or other sitcoms on my device. Worst case I will get a USB Type C OTG Stick and use this from time to time to move eg. pictures and TWRP backups on this one. I would have loved the 64GB version but it was not available because the demand for this phone is not very high. Most guys chose other brands.
In terms of performance and battery life there is a huge difference with the Nexus 6P. I can get up to 8h of SOT ( most the time around 6-7+ ). I don´t have 100eds of Apps or Games installed and I use a customized, Stock based ROM which suits my needs. From a technical point of view, the Nexus 6P is a great device but it´s not as rugged as it seems. Make sure to threat it better than eg. your girlfriend because this device tends to bend or to warp quite easily...even if you use a decent case with it.

I bought the aluminum Nexus 6P with 128GB. I have about 55GB of music that I want to carry with me on my phone while leaving plenty of space for future app installation and Nandroid backups, so anything less than the 128GB version wouldn't have worked for me. I haven't bought a Nexus phone in many years because of the lack of expandable storage and available internal storage being 64GB or less, so it was great to be able to come back to a Nexus phone this cycle.

The 6P has far, far better battery life than the N5. Also, you can charge it far, far faster as well. I'd say 64GB is fine unless you have a huge music or video library you are going to put on the phone. Calculate it out.
Also, if you are going to college in the US, defiantly take some English grammar classes.
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dcrandon said:
The 6P has far, far better battery life than the N5. Also, you can charge it far, far faster as well. I'd say 64GB is fine unless you have a huge music or video library you are going to put on the phone. Calculate it out.
Also, if you are going to college in the US, defiantly take some English grammar classes.
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*definitely

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*definitely
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Haha. I should pay more attention to my automatic spell check.

snappycg1996 said:
So, I'm a college student, and my money has finally came back in to me. Working at my job, I've saved up enough money to get me a Nexus 6P finally.
Right now, I'm still really on the fence. I have an original Nexus 5, cracked screen, shot battery, and it has some slowdowns at times. Basically I want this newer phone to just be on the latest edge, but the biggest thing is the battery.
So a few questions.
Is battery really noticeably better? I get 2hours SOT on my N5, which I know is shot. I've restarted it at 40% battery and it showed 13 afterwards.
Do you think 128GB for 100 more dollars is worth it? I'm leaning toward yes, and purchasing the 128GB. My 32GB N5 is full, and it don't have all my music on it, could have lots more. I take pics a lot but don't rely on cloud services to backup. I have deleted some larger apps to open more space on my phone since I'm hovering around 500MB left. 64 is a lot, but 128 is a LOAD more. Is it worth it you think?
Thanks in advance!
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I made the jump to the 6p from the 5 and the difference in SOT is soooo pronounced dude. I was constantly running into issues because of my 5 constantly dying on me, or stressed about it constantly being on the verge of dying on me when it wasn't already dead lol. Not an issue whatsoever with the 6p, those extra 3ish hours make a world of difference
As for memory, 64gh should be plenty. I dual boot ROMs, have a large chunk of my music collection and have scads of photos and apps on mine and I'm (barely) getting by with a 32gb That being said, if you're someone who uses their phone in lieu of a computer then obviously the more the merrier.
All of this stuff is relative though, so my needs from my phone won't necessarily reflect yours, obviously. No matter what its a super sick phone though and a massive step up from the 5.

Pixel XL or V20

It is time for a new phone, my Moto X Style (Pure) on T-Mobile is getting a bit long in the tooth.
1) storage is only 16GB so even with the few apps I use, I have to clear cache to update apps (photos, videos, etc all goto the SD Card)
2) signal is crap at times and call quality suffers
3) Lenorola is starting to slack on Android update time frames, they use to be quick with the last two Moto X and now they are getting behind (even with security updates)
I am on T-Mobile and I mainly do alot of audio (BT), some pictures and video, and the rest is just FB, Email, Text, Web Browsing
My choices are to go with the V20 and root it to get a few apps that I need
or wait and order a Pixel XL (128GB) and ride the google update train again.

I was faced with the same decision.. 16GB is just a non-starter for me, and I couldn't wait for the 128GB version to become available. Also Google's hardware didn't completely impress me.. I picked up the V20 coming from the Note 7.. honestly my plan is to run with it until the Note 8 comes out more than likely. I think the Google phone will have a longer lifespan and obviously quicker updates.. but I needed a phone and couldn't wait for the 128GB version to come out. Also the price difference was pretty significant compared the Verizon's price on the V20.. so that was a factor as well.
Overall the V20 didn't 'wow' me like the Note 7 did.. but its still a very good phone and for the $650 or so I got it for I am happy.. I don't think the Pixel XL would have wowed me either to be honest after having the Note 7 though.

The last LG phone I had was the G4 and that was a bit of a let down.
Since I am on T-Mobile coming from a Moto X Pure (3rd Gen) I won't get any trade in value at all (keeping it as a backup)
It is $30 a month for the V20 on T-Mobile, or I buy the Pixel XL and get $325 in credit over 24 months which will take away some of the hit over time for the Pixel XL
I am leaning to the V20 right now, especially because of how on top of updates LG has appeared to become. I just hate the bloat, hopefully there are good fixes for that or someone later releasing a cleaned up stock rom

I was faced with the same problem
Pick the Pixel for:
- better camera (especially video stabilization)
- fast updates and longer lifespan
- better one-handed usage
- fluid software experience
- looks (subjective I know, but I kinda like it and it has no camera hump)
Lg v20 for:
- removable battery
- better sound experience
- military grade drop protection
- manual camera mode if that's your thing
- expandable storage
- second screen is useful sometimes
I obviously went with the v20. Unlocked bootloader on T-Mobile and root on it fixes some software problems. Although I wouldn't complain if I had went with the Pixel either

I'm currently facing the EXACT dilemma.
After reading your comments, I think I might pick up the T-mobile version of the V20 instead.
Since we still do not have an official V20 root for the Canadian model.

Looks like I am leaning to the V20 as well. Mainly for the camera, screen, audio.
Even if we get a stock cleaned up ROM later then it would be perfectly fine.

Not sure about your options in your part of the world, but here in New Zealand the pixel XL is $1400 while i bought the V20 for $900. So yea, no explanation needed

Pixel is a ugly ass phone.
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I loved my Nexus 6
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I came from the nexus 6P which I loved to this phone and to honest I love the battery life and everything it has to offer so far. Up in Canada they are offering the B&O H3 headphones plus 200 off which was 799 for the whole package which is a wicked deal

I have the Tmo V20 and I didn't feel like there was much bloat...well compared to AT&T's devices. Coming from the N7 my only gripe is the low light pictures come out gainier than the N7. I hated the edge screen on the N7 but I really dig the second screen on the V20. The screen isn't as saturated as an AMOLED screen, but in everyday use I don't notice it. Done call the V20 ugly, but I honestly love the looks. Of course most people throw a case on their device, so does that even matter?
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If you listen to BT audio a lot stop hesitating and go get the LGv20 and grab a pair of BT headphones with Aptx support (lgv20 one of only a couple phones that support it.) I have these and they are awesome.
https://www.amazon.com/Monster-SuperSlim-Bluetooth-Wireless-Headphones/dp/B015EGRK9S

Honestly paying that much for a mere 128 gb is outrageous. For $400-500 like the old Nexus phones... sure I might be convinced to give up the extensive list of V20 features some of which were not even present in the Note 7. I see the Pixel XL like the Android version of the IPhone 7's business model: add a camera that's nice but doesn't blow the others out of the water anymore, give it a short shelf life with limited storage and non-removable battery (so that you MUST upgrade after 12 months), put a lot of emphasis on zippy when the competition are pretty zippy already. Overall a pretty meh exterior design like the V20 and Iphone7. The Note is prettier but that finger print magnet back is a chore and I had enough of TouchWiz lagging down the experience compares to the V20.
I have a YouTube Red account. With a 250 GB Samsung micro SD ($70 eBay) and 64 GB on board I have so much content I don't know what do with.
I picked up two new TVs on black Friday. I use the V20 IR blaster with both. Same for the Kinivo HDMI splitter, no more fumbling with that little easy to lose clicker.
The V20 has Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0, which the others don't have, is like one of the best V20 features. I use a 3.0 Anker PowerCore+ 10k mAh power bank ($40 Amazon) with an iOrange-E type C cable and the V20 absolutely flies from 40%-80%.
The second screen is probably the most useful feature I can switch to different songs on Amazon music app, use it as the zoom wheel in video recording, allows for more fluid app switching than interrupting the main screen just to use the multitasking soft button. And the quad DAC actually drives my V-Moda M100s. I wanted to test this against the Note 7 but the Fire Department said no can do homey. And rumor is no more headphone jack on new Samsungs. You'll have to spend $300 on Bluetooth Bose headphones with as good a sound as upper mid tier wired cans.
Honestly...even if V20, Note 7, iphone 7 and Pixel XL were all priced the same it would be a no brainer for me as far as useful features I rely on every day.

For me, it was a price per gb difference, and a looks thing. I came off an S6 Edge, and for me, the Pixel looks like an iPhone minus the home button. Yeah, it's on 7.1, and will get updates sooner (but I'm on Verizon so it's bound to be slower no matter which one). The smaller capacity model would never work for me, I download too many movies and stuff for that. My Edge was 64 and that was a decent balance between saving until I downloaded it off to the computer. Plus I get the expansion slot for more just because you never know. Could care less about the removable battery, but to some it's a plus. The camera seems to be subjective on video reviews, between people that prefer one over the other. I use a DSLR for anything important, so it's not a deal-breaker for me, and it takes pictures just fine for my eyes anyway. I didn't buy it as a camera, I bought it as a phone. And I know the LG G2 I had was rooted pretty quickly if memory serves, and just browsing seems like we've got a good group tackling that now (missed that on my S6). So in the end, the cost savings, and the aesthetics won me over between the two, with everything else basically being a wash either way. Plus, coming from the other phone, every time a gal looks at it, they always seem to say "Wow that's big". Simple pleasures, but it never gets old

By the way, NetFlix now has downloads. As does Amazon video and YouTube Red. I see no win with a phone that kills micro SD.

I bought V20. And I love myself for that decision.

Mahendra Dhaker said:
I bought V20. And I love myself for that decision.
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Believe it or not I returned the S8 and got mine. I'm freakin stoked by what LG has to offer. This my 1st non samsung phone and its rooted.

I ended up selling my V20 it was glitch fest everywhere even after several factory resets and the batter drain was bad.....I do miss the extra camera and the DAC but outside of that I love the S8+. This is my first Samsung phone since the note 3.

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I ended up selling my V20 it was glitch fest everywhere even after several factory resets and the batter drain was bad.....I do miss the extra camera and the DAC but outside of that I love the S8+. This is my first Samsung phone since the note 3.
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I am kind of on the same page. I jumped on the v20 from a note 4. My note 4 had less bugs, better battery life, and a better screen. "Auto" picture quality was much better on the note.
Things i will miss about the V20/Pros
~ Full manual camera controls and the wide angle lens
~ DAC
~ Second display
~ Build Quality
~ Removable Battery
***Biggest complaint by far is Battery life.. From my Pokemon Go experience specifically, my Girlfriend has a iPhone 6s. My note 4 battery life was better than hers. My V20 is literally half that of hers now. Same apps installed across both phones. Phone gets HOT.