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I have tried to look for some threads regarding noise cancellation but the only ones i found were recommendations and questions about it.
I am sorry but I feel the urge to open this thread and at the same time surprised by the fact this thread has not been created before.
I constantly get people claiming they can hear background noises almost at the same level as they can hear my voice. It seems like every time I walk down the street, any background noises (bus, cars, people shouting, music, etc) are being passed onto the other person's line. It also holds for when I am at home with friends and someone calls me, the person on the other line claims he can hear practically every word my friends are talking about as if he is on speaker phone.
Also, connecting my Nexus S to my bluetooth speaker in my car is almost not possible as people claim they hear me as if i'm in a 'space shuttle'. I can confirm that its not the bluetooth speaker as I used to have a Blackberry and never had any issues.
Anyone experiences it as well? knows about someone developing a solution for it? or is it just me hallucinating here
This is a widely known problem and unfortunately there seems to be no fix in sight. Samsung does not use a secondary noise cancelling microphone like in the Nexus 1 and their software noise cancellation is simply garbage. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the brilliant devs can figure out a way to improve the noise cancellation with some kernel magic.
generalagony said:
This is a widely known problem and unfortunately there seems to be no fix in sight. Samsung does not use a secondary noise cancelling microphone like in the Nexus 1 and their software noise cancellation is simply garbage. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the brilliant devs can figure out a way to improve the noise cancellation with some kernel magic.
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"their software" .... you mean Google's software? Samsung doesn't touch the firmware whatsoever. They just provide the hardware in coalition with Google.
Simple solution (albeit it costs money). Get a noise cancelling bluetooth device. I have a blueant t1 and I never get background noise complaints. People don't even realize I'm riding on the highway. I wouldn't put too much hope it the devs doing a whole lot with noise cancellation because there's only so much software can do, since the phone lacks the hardware for true noise cancellation.
This has been posted a few times when the phone first released. There's no fix unfortunately, and a deal breaker for some. In noisy places the call quality seems to suffer from the software noise cancel function.
What noise cancellation? Yea, its quite a change from the Nexus One. People hear EVERYTHING that goes on in the background.
You can do a lot of noise cancellation with software only. There are numerous examples of excellent software solutions for noise cancellations.
SoliCall said:
You can do a lot of noise cancellation with software only. There are numerous examples of excellent software solutions for noise cancellations.
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For the Nexus S? can you give an example?
zephiK said:
"their software" .... you mean Google's software? Samsung doesn't touch the firmware whatsoever. They just provide the hardware in coalition with Google.
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Ouch. Pwnd. Everyone knew what I meant
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co0kie said:
For the Nexus S? can you give an example?
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Not for the Nexus S, but other companies have had successful software noise cancellation - for example Motorola CrystalTalk. As for noise on the Nexus S, I've asked friends and my wife when calling from stores, parking lots, in the car with tunes playing, etc., and they all say background noise is virtually non-existant. And I sound just fine as well. I've noticed that people can hear the music in the car when I'm not talking, but as soon as I start to talk the music is silenced. Calls to my own voicemail line confirms this.
Perhaps it has something to do with firmware versions? I have stock 2.3.3 pre-installed, no root.
it may be possible to noisegate out sounds below a certain level which depends on the mean amplitude level of a range of frequencies common to the voice. in otherwords, calculating the average amplitude the voice is, and removing anything significantly below that amplitude.
however without a second out-of-phase microphone, results wouldn't be all that great and would be processor intensive.
interesting project i may look at some time in the future.
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Not for the Nexus S, but other companies have had successful software noise cancellation - for example Motorola CrystalTalk. As for noise on the Nexus S, I've asked friends and my wife when calling from stores, parking lots, in the car with tunes playing, etc., and they all say background noise is virtually non-existant. And I sound just fine as well. I've noticed that people can hear the music in the car when I'm not talking, but as soon as I start to talk the music is silenced. Calls to my own voicemail line confirms this.
Perhaps it has something to do with firmware versions? I have stock 2.3.3 pre-installed, no root.
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I'm not sure weather CrystalTalk stands for a specific feature on Motorola's ROMs but if its a software, on Android, couldn't it be ported to other ROMs?
btw, I'm running NScollab 1.0.17 but always experienced such issues, even when I was on stock 2.3.3 pre-root.
I was not looking for Nexus S. Simply trying to prove a point that software noise cancellation is doable and working great. BTW, the developers of such software can easily port it to different platforms since it does not rely on specific hardware.
Hey,
I was planing on getting this phone due to how cheap it is and wanting to try wp7 out.
I read a lot of issues about the phone and kind of discouraged.
The big question I have is should I just wait and see what "if" any newer wp7 phones are coming to Tmobile or should I take the plunge.
Please be honest lol You'll be saving a life if this phone really is a hassel.
the problems with this phone are fixed via new firmware and mango (most likely)
if you waited this long you could wait for the next batch to come out (like the searay)
but if you want a keyboard - this is the phone to get. It is also mad cheap!
i picked one up even tho i already have a w7 phone and i plan to get the new nokia too. (but i'm crazy)
A lot of the problems are reportedly fixed by the new (.212) firmware, which is due out this week! There's a good write-up in the article below.
http://wmpoweruser.com/dell-venue-pro-users-new-fw-report/
My phone is very stable with wifi disabled i.e. no lockups or reboots in over 3 months. The wifi issue is apparently caused by a DMA conflict - the new firmware reportedly fixes this.
It's a very nice phone. I don't regret purchasing mine.
On the downside, the camera is relatively poor. It's also thicker than most phones as it has a (very good) hardware keyboard.
Your decision is whether to get an ageing phone (i.e. DVP) cheap or wait for the next generation devices. This is something you will have to decide for yourself
Great phone...
1. Terrible camera
2. Low (read very) heatset volume
Hence spoils your upload to Facebook fun and also the the zune experience...
I honestly don't recommend this phone
Using .212 .... very stable with wifi
Strange. For me, headset volume has been very good using ue-18 pros. Very powerful at 15/30. However, my DVP is running old firmware(.105) and crashes alot. Like the device, but am still waiting for an update.
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2. Low (read very) heatset volume
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As mentioned by aFo3262, the type of headset / earbuds you have can also make a big difference.
I listen to my DVP on the underground using cheap Creative EP-630 earbuds and have never had a problem with the volume being too low. Earbuds that fit inside your ear often give the best volume. They also reduce noise leakage, as long as you have the right size rubber pads, so people around you don't hear what you're listening to.
These are the earbuds I used to use with my iPod. The iPod is louder - however, the DVP goes loud enough that I always leave my iPod at home
Thought I'd mention as I'm not sure how much Dell can / will do to increase the output of the earphone jack.
You should not be using earphones playing music loudly to cover up other loud noises. You will destroy your ears. I am travelling in the UK and I have to agree with magicsquid, on my Skullcandy over-ear headphones the trains and underground seem dull compared to my headset volume of 17/30.
I work outside (very noisy equipment) all day every day and use these:
http://na.audeoworld.com/products/perfectfit/
Highly recommend them.
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Great phone...
1. Terrible camera
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nod nod to that.
the camera.. even in bright light, is crap!
volume is fine.. but i always keep it maxed. its max is lower than you'd expect. But i'm find with it
running 212 and mango beta 2.
I received mine from the eBay deal 2 days ago. It came with .212 firmware on it and I've had no issues. I put Mango on it today. Performance is good and I have no headphone issues - I'm listening at about 20 (out of 30).
This is now the 3rd LG phone in a row to completely suck on bluetooth audio quality, my G Pro did, and the Optimus before it also. I have the AT&T version, using bluetooth headphones its not as much of an issue. In cars or on a louder higher quality audio system is where it really shows up. Ive used two diff samsung phone and an iphone 5 that sounded perfect. Even using the wired line in to the car, the volume nearly has to be maxed to have the same level as a iphone on meduim.
I want to like this phone but music is something i do all the time in the car. I had high hopes with LG saying they were putting all this high quality audio in it, but it still sounds like **** compared to other phones.
Does anyone have some code to fix this?, im sure this is something the phone will need rooted to install and im open to doing that. I have two G2s and both have the same issue, the company phone obviously I wont root, but the personal phone I just want to improve it to at least what other older smartphones were able to do
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This is now the 3rd LG phone in a row to completely suck on bluetooth audio quality, my G Pro did, and the Optimus before it also. I have the AT&T version, using bluetooth headphones its not as much of an issue. In cars or on a louder higher quality audio system is where it really shows up. Ive used two diff samsung phone and an iphone 5 that sounded perfect. Even using the wired line in to the car, the volume nearly has to be maxed to have the same level as a iphone on meduim.
I want to like this phone but music is something i do all the time in the car. I had high hopes with LG saying they were putting all this high quality audio in it, but it still sounds like **** compared to other phones.
Does anyone have some code to fix this?, im sure this is something the phone will need rooted to install and im open to doing that. I have two G2s and both have the same issue, the company phone obviously I wont root, but the personal phone I just want to improve it to at least what other older smartphones were able to do
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Mine sounds perfect on my system n my GTO, what's code gonna do?
but have you ever run other devices prior to the G2 in it?
Mine sounds fine compared to the S4 in my BMW. ONLY Difference is Maybe alittle less bass response on the G2. Not much tho
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I have not seen any mention of aptX on G2. Without it, it won't compete with new Samsungs.
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Mine sounds perfect on my system n my GTO, what's code gonna do?
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Beats, DSP Manager, etc.
There are a bunch of audio enhancements that have been ported to different devices, through third party development.
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I have not seen any mention of aptX on G2. Without it, it won't compete with new Samsungs.
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http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4216
http://www.phonedog.com/products/lg-g2/
Says aptX included on some sites.
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but have you ever run other devices prior to the G2 in it?
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Yes, Nexus 4, Optimistic pro, note, note2, gs2...... I could go on......
rodimus_prime said:
This is now the 3rd LG phone in a row to completely suck on bluetooth audio quality, my G Pro did, and the Optimus before it also. I have the AT&T version, using bluetooth headphones its not as much of an issue. In cars or on a louder higher quality audio system is where it really shows up. Ive used two diff samsung phone and an iphone 5 that sounded perfect. Even using the wired line in to the car, the volume nearly has to be maxed to have the same level as a iphone on meduim.
I want to like this phone but music is something i do all the time in the car. I had high hopes with LG saying they were putting all this high quality audio in it, but it still sounds like **** compared to other phones.
Does anyone have some code to fix this?, im sure this is something the phone will need rooted to install and im open to doing that. I have two G2s and both have the same issue, the company phone obviously I wont root, but the personal phone I just want to improve it to at least what other older smartphones were able to do
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I'm also having issues. Not only is the volume really low, it also plays slow so everything sounds like a 12" records on the wrong speed. Iphone from before worked fine.
o0radryan0o said:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4216
http://www.phonedog.com/products/lg-g2/
Says aptX included on some sites.
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This may not be updated, but usually they are pretty good at tooting their horn before things are released.
http://www.csr.com/technology-solutions/av/audio-products-powered-by-csr-aptx/brand/LG
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I have not seen any mention of aptX on G2. Without it, it won't compete with new Samsungs.
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Is AptX software feature and not hard wired into QSD 800? I don't know, I'm just asking
Billy Madison said:
Is AptX software feature and not hard wired into QSD 800? I don't know, I'm just asking
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It is a proprietary standard for CD quality bluetooth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AptX
I am also having issues w/ bluetooth in my car. I can get it connected, but it doesn't seem to want to stay connected. Mid song, the car stereo will all of a sudden drop the connection and switch to a different input ("normal" behavior when the source is disconnected. Acts the same way if you disconnect ipod from USB cable). I had an iphone 4s & Lumia 920 that did not act this way prior to my G2. Anyone try to OTA update to see if it improved things?
bri315317 said:
Mine sounds fine compared to the S4 in my BMW. ONLY Difference is Maybe alittle less bass response on the G2. Not much tho
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What year and model is your BMW and what system do you have in it? I agree with the origional post saying the quality is noticable crappy with my BMWs sound system (2013 X1 with HK and idrive). My Note II sounded perfect but my G2 sounds terrible. Especially if I crank it. I would really appreciate it if anyone had a solution because if not this otherwise great phone will have to go back
I'm a bit of an audiophile so being able to have my FLAC files is nice. I realize that Bluetooth obviously isn't streaming raw PCM, but having good quality source material can help. That and it just makes me feel better knowing.
I just wish I could navigate beyond the current playlist using the controls on the steering wheel. I have a "menu" button, but's greyed out. Same with the old GNex. I have a feeling the car is design specifically to work best with an iPhone.
Bluetooth issue
bri315317 said:
Mine sounds fine compared to the S4 in my BMW. ONLY Difference is Maybe alittle less bass response on the G2. Not much tho
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Just got the lgg2 and the phone and streaming music via Bluetooth work fine in my car [2013 BMW]. However, when connected to the car via Bluetooth, neither the phones mic nor the car mic work for voice commands [like for dictating an email or text or google searches]. Probably a deal killer for me unless I can find a solution. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as otherwise I really like the phone.
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What year and model is your BMW and what system do you have in it? I agree with the origional post saying the quality is noticable crappy with my BMWs sound system (2013 X1 with HK and idrive). My Note II sounded perfect but my G2 sounds terrible. Especially if I crank it. I would really appreciate it if anyone had a solution because if not this otherwise great phone will have to go back
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2013 550 with HK and Idrive. Only difference I found is in bass response. G2 has less bass but was able to compensate for it in the EQ settings. What do you find worse?
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2013 550 with HK and Idrive. Only difference I found is in bass response. G2 has less bass but was able to compensate for it in the EQ settings. What do you find worse?
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The music is fuzzy or has a hiss or something. It just isn't clear and crisp like on my note ii or my friends iphones. It is most noticeable when the music get busy (bass treble and voice all at once). If I switch to the headphone jack it sounds great again but that defeats the purpose of the bluetooth and audio controls. Out of curiosity do you ever use slacker radio? I am having issues where I can't skip tracks using the car controls like i could on the note ii.
Does anyone know if we can fix this? Modify the bluetooth bitrate or add an additional profile? Any help would be greatly appreciated. If I can't get this fixed in the 14 day return period I will have to find a different phone. I would be happy to pay someone to make a fix. Thanks!
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This is now the 3rd LG phone in a row to completely suck on bluetooth audio quality, my G Pro did, and the Optimus before it also. I have the AT&T version, using bluetooth headphones its not as much of an issue. In cars or on a louder higher quality audio system is where it really shows up. Ive used two diff samsung phone and an iphone 5 that sounded perfect. Even using the wired line in to the car, the volume nearly has to be maxed to have the same level as a iphone on meduim.
I want to like this phone but music is something i do all the time in the car. I had high hopes with LG saying they were putting all this high quality audio in it, but it still sounds like **** compared to other phones.
Does anyone have some code to fix this?, im sure this is something the phone will need rooted to install and im open to doing that. I have two G2s and both have the same issue, the company phone obviously I wont root, but the personal phone I just want to improve it to at least what other older smartphones were able to do
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I always play music in my car and I had the GNex. My G2 sounds way better and is louder, I use bluetooth with the (aptx?) spec receiver.
I noticed that when I first used bluetooth for music playback, it sounded fantastic. After using it for a little bit, the sound degraded and it now sounds, well, poor. So... I'm guessing I'm just going to have to go buy an aux cable.
This is the first Android device I've ever had that has not exhibited Android's classic Bluetooth stuttering/cutout issue. I'm coming from a Note 4 that was on 5.0.1, and previously had S4, S3, HTC One M8, HTC One XL, S2, Atrix, Atrix 2, and this is a first. I've heard that maybe Google finally fixed the issue on 5.1.1, but either way, the annoying Bluetooth milliseconds cutout is gone.
If you say you didn't have the issue, you simply do not use Bluetooth or never listened at any length to render an observation. I commute 2 hours a day, at minimum, and podcasts and music would have this issue prior to the Note5. This was in multiple cars, multiple Bluetooth speakers. I'm happy to report that the issue is gone. You can bet that I will be investigating any software updates in the future to see if they reintroduce the classic bug, but I'm pleased.
Anyone else notice this has been fixed?
PS - the Note 4 community found a slight fix for this issue when II had that phone. If the screen remained on, the audio would not cut out. An FYI to Note 4 people.
cfn87 said:
This is the first Android device I've ever had that has not exhibited Android's classic Bluetooth stuttering/cutout issue. I'm coming from a Note 4 that was on 5.0.1, and previously had S4, S3, HTC One M8, HTC One XL, S2, Atrix, Atrix 2, and this is a first. I've heard that maybe Google finally fixed the issue on 5.1.1, but either way, the annoying Bluetooth milliseconds cutout is gone.
If you say you didn't have the issue, you simply do not use Bluetooth or never listened at any length to render an observation. I commute 2 hours a day, at minimum, and podcasts and music would have this issue prior to the Note5. This was in multiple cars, multiple Bluetooth speakers. I'm happy to report that the issue is gone. You can bet that I will be investigating any software updates in the future to see if they reintroduce the classic bug, but I'm pleased.
Anyone else notice this has been fixed?
PS - the Note 4 community found a slight fix for this issue when II had that phone. If the screen remained on, the audio would not cut out. An FYI to Note 4 people.
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I had a nightmare with my note 4 and it's bluetooth, it was awful.
I got a Note 5 and bluetooth was absolutely awful, I had to return it and got a new one and all is good. Very good bluetooth
Having bluetooth issues with my Note 5 and an my Chevy Equinox. The phone works perfectly with all my other bluetooth devices though. I think its the car but my wife's iPhone works perfectly with the car. Who knows.
I have a thread in the Troubleshooting sub-forum looking for help with my BT.
See here.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
Also - OP - what carrier are you with?
I have a nexus 6 and thinking about getting a note 5 but I have never had any issues with Bluetooth on my nexus
About every 20 minutes mine chooses to disconnect from my bluetooth speaker.
I haven't had a single issue with BT yet in my car or with my speaker at home. I use both daily.
Bluetooth on this phone (A2DP streaming specifically) is fantastic. I have had problems with horrible sounding overly compressed bluetooth audio streaming in my car (old head unit, no Apt-x or anything supported) since Android switched bluetooth engines after version 4.1. All the nexus devices (I've had a few) apparently only support SBC streaming, so this leads to the horrible sounding audio with some receivers, I presume. I just returned a Nexus 6 because of this very issue. I couldn't tolerate it in the car, music sounded like garbage. This was an issue with the Note 4 when I bought it last year as well. I don't know what Samsung did on the Note 5, but BT audio sounds pretty damn good again. I'm so glad, because nobody seems to care about this issue so I had almost lost hope. Props to Samsung for improving it.
Thats great news! I was to the point of wanting to beat my Note 2 with a hammer after every bike ride with my Bluetooth headphones! - Every time I would turn my head they would cut out. I'm looking forward to trying with my new Note 5 on my ride tomorrow.
Hello all, I'm not sure if this is a known issue, I did see one post with someone having issues but not sure if it is directly related:
I've tried a couple of different bluetooth earbuds with the 6P, the Motorola Moto Buds, and now the Taotronics Wireless magnetic earbuds. I also do phone calls via my car's bluetooth connection (Subaru Legacy 2015). In both cases, people I'm talking to on a call always have a hard time hearing me. I tried calling myself and leaving a voicemail to listen to it and sure enough any time I leave myself a voicemail from a bluetooth connected device, the volume is low compared to voicemails that others leave me, or voicemails I leave myself via the handset mic (not speakerphone).
I can hear the other party fine.
I'm not sure if the issue is just that I haven't found a good bluetooth device yet, or if this is an issue with the 6P, or an issue with android in general? The product reviews I've read for both bluetooth earbuds have said that the call quality is clear both ways, so... ?
Running Nougat 7.0, but the issue was there on Marshmallow as well...
I don't want to open a new thread, since I have a similar problem. The only difference is that I think the mic volume is low in all aspects of the phone (calls, audio recording, video recording).
I've tried using the EX Kernel manager to enhance microphone gain, but it doesn't work.
Btw I'm using Viper4android soundmod, maybe it has something to do with this?
This is one of the issues that some N6P is know to have. Mine is unusable with Bluetooth or using the aux in my car. And most of the time when on calls the other person says he hears his own voice echoing back. Tries all the recommended software fixes none really fixed it. The best one is the build prop fix.
Im in the process of getting it repaired/replaced by Hauwei. Hope this will fix it .
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spjetrovic said:
This is one of the issues that some N6P is know to have. Mine is unusable with Bluetooth or using the aux in my car. And most of the time when on calls the other person says he hears his own voice echoing back. Tries all the recommended software fixes none really fixed it. The best one is the build prop fix.
Im in the process of getting it repaired/replaced by Hauwei. Hope this will fix it .
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Did they replace the device? If so, was it a new phone, or refurbished?
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Did they replace the device? If so, was it a new phone, or refurbished?
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Yes,New.
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Yes,New.
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Was it a warranty claim through google, or an extended warranty claim through assurant (I have the extended warranty and my phone is beyond it's manufacturer's warranty). So I don't know if it's handled the same way.
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Was it a warranty claim through google, or an extended warranty claim through assurant (I have the extended warranty and my phone is beyond it's manufacturer's warranty). So I don't know if it's handled the same way.
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It was thru Huawei under warranty.
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It was thru Huawei under warranty.
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Return it. Your noise cancelling or mic are defective.
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Return it. Your noise cancelling or mic are defective.
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I think you got the wrong person.
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pchoi94 said:
Hello all, I'm not sure if this is a known issue, I did see one post with someone having issues but not sure if it is directly related:
I've tried a couple of different bluetooth earbuds with the 6P, the Motorola Moto Buds, and now the Taotronics Wireless magnetic earbuds. I also do phone calls via my car's bluetooth connection (Subaru Legacy 2015). In both cases, people I'm talking to on a call always have a hard time hearing me. I tried calling myself and leaving a voicemail to listen to it and sure enough any time I leave myself a voicemail from a bluetooth connected device, the volume is low compared to voicemails that others leave me, or voicemails I leave myself via the handset mic (not speakerphone).
I can hear the other party fine.
I'm not sure if the issue is just that I haven't found a good bluetooth device yet, or if this is an issue with the 6P, or an issue with android in general? The product reviews I've read for both bluetooth earbuds have said that the call quality is clear both ways, so... ?
Running Nougat 7.0, but the issue was there on Marshmallow as well...
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Do they care if you have a little screen damage if they don't I will RMA mine