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Anyone gets a SWAP EC309 smartwatch ?? I cant find any review at the moment but it has been released already.
But it seems strange that the official website still not yet updated ???
"Product Description
sWaP EC309 Smart Android 4.0 Watch phone 512M + 4GB MTK6517 Android wrist Phone - 2.0M Camera - Wifi - GPS Muti-languag Support
This watch has exceptional functionality. Using a Dual Core 1.2G chip and communicating via 2G/3G network, using the Android 4.0 operating system, you can stay in touch anywhere in the world. It comes complete with WIFI and GPS integration allowing you to surf the internet and use social applications such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Skype, Google Play and more. With a 4G flash drive you'll have plenty of room for the latest games, apps, and playlists that will be accessible to you using touch screen technology."
Interesting, though I can't find any reviews either.
For that price and those specs, either get the Omate TrueSmart (waterproof and only $199 on kickstarter) or the upcoming Neptune Pine. That's ridiculously priced.
Omate or get the EC309 directly from the manufacturer.
Lokifish Marz said:
Omate or get the EC309 directly from the manufacturer.
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Do you have any experience with the 309? Ali has it for $300.00.
Lokifish Marz said:
Omate or get the EC309 directly from the manufacturer.
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I found a seller offering the 309 for $219. Think it is worth it?
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Omate or get the EC309 directly from the manufacturer.
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@Lokifish Marz you appear to be one of the world's leading expert's on smart watches; I'm curious - is there a watch you would recommend?
I got here from the Omate thread re: CES 2014 where you said the EC309 firmware was better than the Omate's.
I'm looking for the best Android watch that has access to the Google Play store (unofficial or not, I don't care), has accessibility service so I can get notifications and ideally has 1GB of RAM, good battery life etc. I don't care about IP6 waterproof etc. Headphone jack would also be a major plus.
Would love to hear your thoughts....thank you for your time.
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@Lokifish Marz you appear to be one of the world's leading expert's on smart watches; I'm curious - is there a watch you would recommend?
I got here from the Omate thread re: CES 2014 where you said the EC309 firmware was better than the Omate's.
I'm looking for the best Android watch that has access to the Google Play store (unofficial or not, I don't care), has accessibility service so I can get notifications and ideally has 1GB of RAM, good battery life etc. I don't care about IP6 waterproof etc. Headphone jack would also be a major plus.
Would love to hear your thoughts....thank you for your time.
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If you could merge the TrueSmart, EC-309 four button model, ZGPAX and the TOQ then I would have the perfect device. (Or update the WIMM One and add a couple of things). If I could be certain the AI Watch existed with the specs listed then that would get a vote too.
My personal recommendation is to wait and see what CES or the devs bring to smartwatches.
Lokifish Marz said:
If you could merge the TrueSmart, EC-309 four button model, ZGPAX and the TOQ then I would have the perfect device. (Or update the WIMM One and add a couple of things). If I could be certain the AI Watch existed with the specs listed then that would get a vote too.
My personal recommendation is to wait and see what CES or the devs bring to smartwatches.
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Thanks...will do. I really want one though!
Lokifish Marz said:
If you could merge the TrueSmart, EC-309 four button model, ZGPAX and the TOQ then I would have the perfect device. (Or update the WIMM One and add a couple of things). If I could be certain the AI Watch existed with the specs listed then that would get a vote too.
My personal recommendation is to wait and see what CES or the devs bring to smartwatches.
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The ZGPAX could be the best of the bunch, but as of yet, there is no Devs working on it. A custom rom would make this top notch.
If you want to use skype or similar apps for front facing camera, This is the only one thus far. Others have camera's on the side or other weird positions.
Skype works on this, but it does heat up alot with any cpu intensive app.
I have tried the apps that change the cpu such as rom toolbox, MTK6577 CPU governor Switch, etc, but none of the settings (ondemand performance, powersave, or super powersave have done much to lower the overheating problem.
fibroman said:
The ZGPAX could be the best of the bunch, but as of yet, there is no Devs working on it. A custom rom would make this top notch.
If you want to use skype or similar apps for front facing camera, This is the only one thus far. Others have camera's on the side or other weird positions.
Skype works on this, but it does heat up alot with any cpu intensive app.
I have tried the apps that change the cpu such as rom toolbox, MTK6577 CPU governor Switch, etc, but none of the settings (ondemand performance, powersave, or super powersave have done much to lower the overheating problem.
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You guys got BigBison420, didn't do the TWRP recovery. I also can't find any 3G bands listed for it anywhere, just that it has it.
Lokifish Marz said:
You guys got BigBison420, didn't do the TWRP recovery. I also can't find any 3G bands listed for it anywhere, just that it has it.
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Oh yeah, there are no custom ROMs per se but so far I am enjoying this little beast for sure. :highfive:
Not sure about 3G but I was only connecting with 2G when I tried my SIM card with ATT. Didnt play much with it as I only do it when at the Ice Rink and for data I connect to their free wifi so the SIM card is just for calls and MMS at that point.
Lokifish Marz said:
If you could merge the TrueSmart, EC-309 four button model, ZGPAX and the TOQ then I would have the perfect device. (Or update the WIMM One and add a couple of things). If I could be certain the AI Watch existed with the specs listed then that would get a vote too.
My personal recommendation is to wait and see what CES or the devs bring to smartwatches.
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@Lokifish Marz now that CES 2014 has gone and passed, would you be able to make a smartwatch recommendation? I didn't see anything really new that runs Android...the Intel one looks interesting but couldn't tell if it is running a proprietary OS or Android.
I'm all ears as to what you think is best at the moment!
Thanks
shaolin95 said:
Oh yeah, there are no custom ROMs per se but so far I am enjoying this little beast for sure. :highfive:
Not sure about 3G but I was only connecting with 2G when I tried my SIM card with ATT. Didnt play much with it as I only do it when at the Ice Rink and for data I connect to their free wifi so the SIM card is just for calls and MMS at that point.
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got a ec308 and it says its supposed to support 3g bands but can only get 2g with my att sim as well. anyone else been able to get 3g with this thing? false advertising it seems at this point. 2g is only good enough for email
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got a ec308 and it says its supposed to support 3g bands but can only get 2g with my att sim as well. Anyone else been able to get 3g with this thing? False advertising it seems at this point. 2g is only good enough for email
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ec-308= 2g
ec-309= 2g/3g
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ec-308= 2g
ec-309= 2g/3g
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excuse me, the auction said it was the ec309 watch, but still only letting me register on 2g networks so they obviously sold me the ec308 and advertized falsely... not happy.
johnnobts said:
excuse me, the auction said it was the ec309 watch, but still only letting me register on 2g networks so they obviously sold me the ec308 and advertized falsely... not happy.
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It's not exactly the device's fault. Go after the seller. Was this on ebay where you got it?
Ordered mine from chinavasion.com (with comes with 1yr warranty) on 9 Jan and received today! So far so good!
Am whatsapping on mine.
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Ordered mine from chinavasion.com (with comes with 1yr warranty) on 9 Jan and received today! So far so good!
Am whatsapping on mine.
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Question... Can you sync this watch with a phone at all? i.e. SMS sent to the phone show up on the watch? Also, can you take a phone call through the phone on the watch (watch serving as a bluetooth headset for the phone)? I'm looking for something of a companion device to my phone, but not necessarily a watch that serves as my primary phone.
This is a standalone watchphone so it doesnt sync with your phone as a second screen.
Not sure if there are downloadable apps for this.
I tried pairing via bt with my tab 3 7.0 and it could only use the watch as an internet access point.
With a dual core 1.2ghz processor, the watch is no doubt powerful. Youtube videos stream in HD without a glitch. And i suspect you could run pretty intensive games on this thing. But i seriously doubt the 500mah battery could see it thru a couple of hours.
At best this would be adequate as a messenger and voice call notifier kinda device, maybe some push email and calendaring and thats about it. Perhaps the odd google lookup for an address or location.
Will still need another device for decent portable net surfing and entertainment and real work if any.
I want to source an Android smart watch from China for a project am working on. I want to change the menu interface it comes with and replace with a custom interface specific for my purpose (means no custom control to intended audience).
Thoughts Needed
Does anyone here have a similar experience?
Are they good at customizing ROMs and interfaces according to requirements?
If not, how easy is it to hire somebody to build a custom ROM with custom interface (for say MTK6572)?
Any recommended suppliers you know?
Phase 1 MUST HAVE Minimum Requirements - 100 Units Order
Android OS
GSM/GPS
Touch screen
Mic/Speaker
Charging points on the back side (no micro-usb slot on the side)
Shortlisted AK-S5 or AK-S7
Phase 2 MUST HAVE Minimum Requirements
All from Phase 1
IP67 or IP68
Magnetic based charger point on the backside
Heart rate sensor at the backside
Shortlisted - None available yet
abuduri said:
I want to source an Android smart watch from China for a project am working on. I want to change the menu interface it comes with and replace with a custom interface specific for my purpose (means no custom control to intended audience).
Thoughts Needed
Does anyone here have a similar experience?
Are they good at customizing ROMs and interfaces according to requirements?
If not, how easy is it to hire somebody to build a custom ROM with custom interface (for say MTK6572)?
Any recommended suppliers you know?
Phase 1 MUST HAVE Minimum Requirements - 100 Units Order
Android OS
GSM/GPS
Touch screen
Mic/Speaker
Charging points on the back side (no micro-usb slot on the side)
Shortlisted AK-S5 or AK-S7
Phase 2 MUST HAVE Minimum Requirements
All from Phase 1
IP67 or IP68
Magnetic based charger point on the backside
Heart rate sensor at the backside
Shortlisted - None available yet
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Please note: to date no Chinese Android watches are IP67, even the ones that provide proof of IP certification, I've learned that the hard way
AK-55 is the Z01
The AK-S7 is or looks like ZGPAX S7
I'm sure you have experience dealing with Chinese sellers, but if you don't . .. . be extremely careful, even using Paypal, trust no one!
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Please note: to date no Chinese Android watches are IP67, even the ones that provide proof of IP certification, I've learned that the hard way
AK-55 is the Z01
The AK-S7 is or looks like ZGPAX S7
I'm sure you have experience dealing with Chinese sellers, but if you don't . .. . be extremely careful, even using Paypal, trust no one!
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Thanks a lot @simple1i.
I have a chicken-egg question ... Which came first - AK-S5 or Z01? Which of these (or among numerous others on Alibaba) is "original" (designed first)? If there is no traceback and everyone is using the same reference design, as long as it works as intended, does it matter? I did get this supplier to show me the watch on skype video (though it doesn't prove anything).
My main question is - if the supplier really has a "fully working version" of S5 or Z01, and is ready to supply - they also say they will do ODM - any experience on their skills to make a custom ROM and change the menu interface to my needs? If not, anyone here willing to build the ROM and interface (paid)?
x201 model
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Thanks a lot @simple1i.
I have a chicken-egg question ... Which came first - AK-S5 or Z01? Which of these (or among numerous others on Alibaba) is "original" (designed first)? If there is no traceback and everyone is using the same reference design, as long as it works as intended, does it matter? I did get this supplier to show me the watch on skype video (though it doesn't prove anything).
My main question is - if the supplier really has a "fully working version" of S5 or Z01, and is ready to supply - they also say they will do ODM - any experience on their skills to make a custom ROM and change the menu interface to my needs? If not, anyone here willing to build the ROM and interface (paid)?
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I started looking into smartwatches on XDA from Mar 2014, so my history before then is limited. For me it started with the Omate TrueSmart, their Kickstarter campaign that promised it all and delivered a lie. I could be wrong, but Omate made the watch first (x201) and the rest copied (or someShenzhen firm made it first and Omate copied ) @pizzaman77 - knows the full history of Omate clones x201. But yes, now it does not matter as long as it works.
As for the development, you might get lucky and find that someone is already doing what you want or similar on the Omate forum - search on the Android development threads. I'm not a dev, so I don't if the Chineses sellers have the skills, doubt it. But the Devs on XDA will have. Look at this Omate thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/oma...rom-omate-truesmart-ironman-firmware-t2998434 - lots of dev going on on the Omate and its clones.
@kuronosan - is a key dev, still active, he might be able to help with paid work. You should start with making a new thread in the Omate Dev forum with your request.
@Lokifish Marz - knows a loooot but is not too actives these days
Please keep me informed on your dev plans (if its not top secret ) - i really really want to also buy a bulk order (maybe only 5 to start with) from China and sell them in the UK, but i need to join someone who is ordering in bulk so that i CAN only buy 5 units to start with. The other issue is i would need to fix any software issues first then sell them and if they sell then buy more. Can PM me if you wish. Thanks.
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I started looking into smartwatches on XDA from Mar 2014, so my history before then is limited. For me it started with the Omate TrueSmart, their Kickstarter campaign that promised it all and delivered a lie. I could be wrong, but Omate made the watch first (x201) and the rest copied (or someShenzhen firm made it first and Omate copied ) @pizzaman77 - knows the full history of Omate clones x201. But yes, now it does not matter as long as it works.
As for the development, you might get lucky and find that someone is already doing what you want or similar on the Omate forum - search on the Android development threads. I'm not a dev, so I don't if the Chineses sellers have the skills, doubt it. But the Devs on XDA will have. Look at this Omate thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/oma...rom-omate-truesmart-ironman-firmware-t2998434 - lots of dev going on on the Omate and its clones.
@kuronosan - is a key dev, still active, he might be able to help with paid work. You should start with making a new thread in the Omate Dev forum with your request.
@Lokifish Marz - knows a loooot but is not too actives these days
Please keep me informed on your dev plans (if its not top secret ) - i really really want to also buy a bulk order (maybe only 5 to start with) from China and sell them in the UK, but i need to join someone who is ordering in bulk so that i CAN only buy 5 units to start with. The other issue is i would need to fix any software issues first then sell them and if they sell then buy more. Can PM me if you wish. Thanks.
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Thanks a ton @simple1i. I will start a thread there.
Do you know any Android watches that fit my Phase 2 requirements (couldn't find any on Alibaba or similar sites)?
I did find a few watches fitting my spec without Android (either Nucleus or similar). Is it advisable to build on those platforms given that Android is now into wearables Reason I chose Android is because I want to be able to easily change supplier and/or watch hardware (looks) later easily and just port the code/functionality rather than getting locked. Else it will become an EXPENSIVE affair later. Am I right in thinking so?
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Thanks a ton @simple1i. I will start a thread there.
Do you know any Android watches that fit my Phase 2 requirements (couldn't find any on Alibaba or similar sites)?
I did find a few watches fitting my spec without Android (either Nucleus or similar). Is it advisable to build on those platforms given that Android is now into wearables Reason I chose Android is because I want to be able to easily change supplier and/or watch hardware (looks) later easily and just port the code/functionality rather than getting locked. Else it will become an EXPENSIVE affair later. Am I right in thinking so?
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And yes @simple1i, I will definitely keep you in the loop on the bulk ordering.
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Thanks a ton @simple1i. I will start a thread there.
Do you know any Android watches that fit my Phase 2 requirements (couldn't find any on Alibaba or similar sites)?
I did find a few watches fitting my spec without Android (either Nucleus or similar). Is it advisable to build on those platforms given that Android is now into wearables Reason I chose Android is because I want to be able to easily change supplier and/or watch hardware (looks) later easily and just port the code/functionality rather than getting locked. Else it will become an EXPENSIVE affair later. Am I right in thinking so?
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Yes I'd stick with Android, lots of resources available, gives more flexibility. I don't think Nucleus OS is a viable option yet, it would be too expensive.
I take it SIM is a requirement too? I'll look around, the IP67 is not available yet, maybe the Ironman 3rd generation might be IP67, but the company (Unova) is full of liars, I was ripped off with the 2nd generation, I proved it's not IP67. Other then the IP67 the rest might be available, you'll need to search for it on AliExpress.
What country are you from?
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Yes I'd stick with Android, lots of resources available, gives more flexibility. I don't think Nucleus OS is a viable option yet, it would be too expensive.
I take it SIM is a requirement too? I'll look around, the IP67 is not available yet, maybe the Ironman 3rd generation might be IP67, but the company (Unova) is full of liars, I was ripped off with the 2nd generation, I proved it's not IP67. Other then the IP67 the rest might be available, you'll need to search for it on AliExpress.
What country are you from?
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Yes, with 2G. 3G really not needed but if it comes with it, cool. Couldn't find any with android and heart rate on back side, keeping IP67 on the side.
Am currently in Boston (originally from India).
simple1i said:
Yes I'd stick with Android, lots of resources available, gives more flexibility. I don't think Nucleus OS is a viable option yet, it would be too expensive.
I take it SIM is a requirement too? I'll look around, the IP67 is not available yet, maybe the Ironman 3rd generation might be IP67, but the company (Unova) is full of liars, I was ripped off with the 2nd generation, I proved it's not IP67. Other then the IP67 the rest might be available, you'll need to search for it on AliExpress.
What country are you from?
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@simple1i ... is Android Wear OS same as Android 4.4 etc running on Z01 (and others) etc?
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@simple1i ... is Android Wear OS same as Android 4.4 etc running on Z01 (and others) etc?
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Found the answer ... http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-operating-systems-do-wearable-devices-run-on/
Looks like Android Wear needs a compatible Android phone for it to work.
So, I'll stick with just Android.
General rules with Chinese Android smartwatches
Broken firmware
Major security holes
Little to no official support (this includes the phone side app)
English (or any other language other than Chinese) for the phone app is very rare
Incomplete source code (when you can even get it) that is a generic build pulled from a phone
Inconsistent battery life due to broken firmware
IP67 is more like IP54 if lucky
Poor build quality and QC by western standards
Not Lokifish supported (I've walked away from the industry as a whole until they get their collective heads out of their butts)
kuronosan's time is limited so fixes may be slow
Depending on your needs and goals. Talk to Ingenic. The HW is a little slow on the Newton (SmartQ Z uses it), not sure about the Newton 2. Either way they have source (Linux, Android, etc). The package is small enough that you could design and build a smartwatch that's about the same size as a real watch, but the display will need a new "crystal" to pull it off nicely. Find a compatible round display, and you should be able to use off the shelf watch cases with minor modifications giving you a 200m diver's smartwatch if you do it right.
*Side note
Even with a 1/2 million buy in for 3000 units we designed ourselves, Umeox still would not have provided source code, and little to no support. That's what the Chinese ODM's are like. kuronosan can verify this.
@abuduri - I'm not sure if my reply to your PM went thru? I can't see it in my sent folder. Did you get it?
I'm still working on stuff for the Omate. I just haven't actually had any free time as of late. I can't just take off of work to put work into a device that's difficult to troubleshoot. If I can be of any help let me know.
I've just started working with smartwatches, but I'm happy to help however I can. I'll be attempting some work on the s8, and I know my way around Android pretty well.
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I'm still working on stuff for the Omate. I just haven't actually had any free time as of late. I can't just take off of work to put work into a device that's difficult to troubleshoot. If I can be of any help let me know.
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@kuronosan @chainsol - thanks guys.
The thread for the new smartwatch is here, we have 5 people so far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3115221 - including an electronic engineering. [emoji818]
firmware files of z01
abuduri said:
I want to source an Android smart watch from China for a project am working on. I want to change the menu interface it comes with and replace with a custom interface specific for my purpose (means no custom control to intended audience).
Thoughts Needed
Does anyone here have a similar experience?
Are they good at customizing ROMs and interfaces according to requirements?
If not, how easy is it to hire somebody to build a custom ROM with custom interface (for say MTK6572)?
Any recommended suppliers you know?
Phase 1 MUST HAVE Minimum Requirements - 100 Units Order
Android OS
GSM/GPS
Touch screen
Mic/Speaker
Charging points on the back side (no micro-usb slot on the side)
Shortlisted AK-S5 or AK-S7
Phase 2 MUST HAVE Minimum Requirements
All from Phase 1
IP67 or IP68
Magnetic based charger point on the backside
Heart rate sensor at the backside
Shortlisted - None available yet
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need firmware files for z01 (android 5.1)
Here is a new smartwatch concept that is just going to Kickstarter.
I think it looks very promising.
The watch currently supports Android and Iphone, but will add Windows Phone in the near future (the orphan sister).
Here is the website http://www.chooseblocks.com
There is also a video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=27&v=BT98FChvoFU
I am pretty excited about this, since every other watch out there tells me what I monitor, this one will be different.
They are working on kinetic charging also, that would be the best. Nothing like getting your smartwatch all set to go, using it for a day or two and then it dies (in the middle of a workout)
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these.
Kickstater Campaign
Here is a link to the Kickstarter campaign. https://www.kickstarter.com/project...orlds-first-modular-smartwatch?ref=nav_search
They met there goal in the first 2 hours.
I think this will be the way of the future. And they are adding Windows Phone support in the next few months.
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these little gems.
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Here is a link to the Kickstarter campaign. https://www.kickstarter.com/project...orlds-first-modular-smartwatch?ref=nav_search
They met there goal in the first 2 hours.
I think this will be the way of the future. And they are adding Windows Phone support in the next few months.
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these little gems.
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I've backed the 4 module edition and plan to add 3 more modules.
Which modules are you planning to get, If any?
The only negative thoughts I have is the screen technology. As for now, they're using TFT
Gorilla Glass
patrickpetersen said:
I've backed the 4 module edition and plan to add 3 more modules.
Which modules are you planning to get, If any?
The only negative thoughts I have is the screen technology. As for now, they're using TFT
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With the enormous response on Kickstarter there is talk of Gorilla Glass.
We should know soon.
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With the enormous response on Kickstarter there is talk of Gorilla Glass.
We should know soon.
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Yeah, I'm hoping for the stretch goal to be reached in a couple of days. It'll give time and money for an AMOLED instead of the current screen technology
What about modules? What do you think?
Stretch goal!
It's here. Our 1st stretch goal is .....(drumroll)..... Gorilla Glass for the Core display! You will be able to get your hands on an (almost) bullet proof display for the Core module that will survive even the toughest of adventures. To make this possible, we need to cross $1 million in funding. Please help us spread the word by sharing the BLOCKS Kickstarter page with your community!
We are considering both IP68 and metal finishes. There is no hardware limitation and there is a mic inside the core. It would mostly depend on what most of our users want and the type of deal we finalize with the telecom companies.
IP68 is important but we have some more exciting updates also.
Also just to let you know - our manuf has confirmed that IP68 is possible for blocks, so technically we could go for it. Just need to consider the cost of production increase that would ensue for IP 68 vs IP 67. So please hold on
This looks very interesting.
In my opinion, it would be nice to have the possibility to install apps directly from play store.
This module shows some promise of that
Programmable Button
Gain instant access to your favourite smartwatch features or other connected devices.
Myself and partner are both watching this project and hoping it actually makes full production and prices drop...
The module system is a great idea and means she can have it set for her purposes as can I mine.... And just upgrade a module as we go along...
Lets hope it's a winner and not a lame duck!!!!
I know, I can't wait to get it on my wrist.
I am on Windows Phone which should be supported by ship date.
Kinetic charging is another big plus for me.
Next year can't come soon enough.
They hit a million this morning!!!!!!!
Check it out https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2106691934/blocks-the-worlds-first-modular-smartwatch/updates
Check this out
This one is going to be legendary! The next stretch goal is METALLIC FINISH for the Core and Modules! Our manufacturer has confirmed this. We are finalizing the details and we will release all the information when we cross $1,200,000. All our existing backers will be able to upgrade to this premium finish if they like. We would kindly like to ask you to hold on to your questions about this metallic finish until we can announce the final details.
[FONT="]Pre order here https://www.kickstarter.com/project...e-worlds-first-modular-smartwatch/description
Also they now have a referral program for anyone who orders before the campaign is over.[/FONT]
How can you help?
Not only can you help us get to this stretch quicker but you can also earn some free Modules in the process. For every friend you bring in, we’ll give BOTH you and your friend a free Module. To find out more, please click on the following link: [FONT="][FONT="]http://www.chooseblocks.com/welcome.html?custom-url=wyyG588006J&name=Jory%20Weber[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT="]So[FONT="], if you are thinking about ordering[FONT="], do so before the campaign is over, [FONT="]24 days to go.
[FONT="]Then both of us can get an extra module for free[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
This looks promising. Pitty it will take so long to launch
Will it allow to make/receive calls from the phone without having to take the phone from my pocket to talk?
I know right, I can't wait.
To answer your question yes, you can answer a call on the watch. That will be part of the core module.
There will also be a SIM module, so you can answer calls away from your phone.
The SIM card module does not interest me, since that would be an extra sim card. All i want is the possibility of using the watch has a hands free kit on one of my cars that hasn't got hands free kit.
I've read it's IP67 rating. Wouldn't this allows me to go to swimming pool and swim without risk of damage? After all, the watch will not be always under water, not even would go to below 1m of water.
Regards.
Almost There!!
Blocks Smartwatch is almost through there Kickstarter campaign with amazing results.
They have set several stretch goals and met all but the last one. If just a few more people get on board they will have realized there wildest dreams.
- Metallic Finish is now available!
- Open Design Announced - easily customize the colours and materials of each module.
- Partnership with Tateossian, luxury British jeweler announced for premium shells.
- Partnerships with biggest telecom carriers in UK & US to be announced next week.
- STRETCH GOAL REACHED: Gorilla glass display will be installed for everyone!
- NEW STRETCH GOAL: The screen will be upgraded to AMOLED if we reach $1.5M.
New Partnerships announced this week!
[FONT="]A leading telecom provider in the United States, AT&T, is collaborating with BLOCKS to bring cellular connectivity to YOUR smartwatch. We are also working with EE, UK's largest mobile operator, to bring the same benefits to our community in the United Kingdom. This would make BLOCKS one of the few smartwatches that has a potential to be a fully standalone device, without the need to be connected to a smartphone.[/FONT]
[FONT="]With this news, you can be rest assured that the development of cellular connectivity will proceed with the best resources and experience behind us. BLOCKS watches in these two countries will come equipped with ready to use SIM cards from these providers, that you can simply insert and use straight out of the box. As mentioned earlier, cellular connectivity will become available in Phase 2.[/FONT]
[FONT="]What if you’re not in the US/UK? [/FONT][FONT="]
BLOCKS will eventually have cellular connectivity enabled in many other countries around the world. We will be announcing affiliates with other telecom providers from around the world in the coming months.[/FONT]
[FONT="]We would also like to take this opportunity to announce our partner companies for development of the following Modules:[/FONT]
· [FONT="]Advanced heart rate monitoring module will be developed in partnership with PixArt Imaging, a leading provider of optical sensors, with inbuilt tri-LED pulse sensor[/FONT]
· [FONT="]Biometric Authentication via the fingerprint module to be made available with BioConnect Entertech Systems, a pioneer in intelligent identity management[/FONT]
· [FONT="]Easily customizable and removable covers for each module with British luxury jeweller, Tateossian. [/FONT]
[FONT="]Also, we’re working with Angee on a partnership to connect our devices to theirs. Angee is an advanced security and communication system changing how you protect – and connect to – your home. Their Kickstarter has been successful and will be ending soon. It's definitely worth checking out!
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Here is a new video, everything you wanted to know about Blocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck57mH6PtBc
Here is an incentive for you to order before the end of the Kickstater campaign. If you order through the link below we will both receive a free module for our watches.
[FONT="][FONT="]http://www.chooseblocks.com/welcome.html?custom-url=wyyG588006J&name=Jory%20Weber
[/FONT][/FONT]Let's get on board and make this beautiful watch a reality.
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Only 3 days left!!
Only 3 days left before BLOCKS Kickstarter campaign ends!
What a month it has been!
$1.5million later we can firmly say that BLOCKS is happening!
With support from Qualcomm, AT&T, EE, ARM, Compal and many other world's leading technology companies BLOCKS will be delivered to you. This is your last chance to get it before prices increase.
[FONT="]What makes BLOCKS special? Why is it different to any other smartwatch on the market? We've made a video with the BLOCKS team sharing what inspires us about BLOCKS.
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[FONT="]Let's signal to the world that technology should be more personal and upgradeable. Back us on Kickstarter now.[/FONT]
[FONT="]#chooseblocks[/FONT]
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And here it is! Wondering how soon people will start to modify...
Failrure?
@Wind Dancer - There are so many unhappy people, its not looking good, so many questions/emails ignored, would you care to update us?
I received my BLOCKS smartwatch on 16.Feb. It came with Android 5.1 and had an update to Oreo 8.0. Allot of the apps are not functional or not working yet. Battery life with 8.0 is much better than the 5.1 firmware, but I only get ~9 hours battery with Wifi off and minimal notifications. One other said he is getting close to 2 days. Maybe need some more battery discharge/recharge cycles. Watch is considerably larger than the original mockup I saw at CES around 3 years ago. It looks very large on my wrist. Metal strap is not available yet and shipped with rubber strap. Still no word on when the modules will ship. Hopefully I will get my Model 3 quicker than the 3.5 years wait for this watch. Hopefully we will see improvements soon in the watch functionality.
I got an idea which requires that several sensors are attached to a humans wrist together with some GSM communication, so i thought, why not use an Android smart watch? (Or any other programmable watches)
I've searched aliexpress for smart watches with sim card support, but the ones i can find in the price range $10-30 doesn't come with a full Android OS. And as far as i can read, i won't be able to modify the OS on the watches.
Do any of you know a programmable watch with sim card support in the price range $10-30? It doesn't have to an Android watch at all. If someone sells a fully working Arduino watch, link it!
Check out the IMac M7, full android, sim card, good specs.
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It is sadly not near my price range. Do you know anything cheaper? It doesn't has to contain water resistance etc.
I think this will be a problem, if you want a device running real android. Even the cheaper android smartwatches are around a 100$ or more. Most of the other cheap smartwatches are running some sort of proprietary system, I don't think they can be modified in any way. I know a few smartwatches around 50$ which claim to support java. Maybe you can install and run some java programs on it...
http://www.ebay.de/itm/SmartPhone-W...820477?hash=item3aa403dfbd:g:6zUAAOSw5ZBWOs5e
Sorry I didn't find this one on ebay.com but at least the description is in english
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016..._9&btsid=e3820829-251e-4719-b3dc-b10666a039f4
has anyone seen that watch? it is water resistant BUT is it a standalone watch? it is not mtk6572 but has gps, 3g.
Seems pretty nice!
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Seems pretty nice!
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i like the idea that is water resistant but is it like the D5 or Wear watch?
okay, i've talked to a seller that i've purchased from him before and he is the seller that also sells chargers and any other parts for these standalone watches and he is selling the i2 and i understood that it is a standalone watch and has a sim slot and the google apps store ammmm....maybe i'll buy too i like watches... 150$ is not that bad.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016..._9&btsid=d33f34da-3626-4e07-8b0e-a93184485b7c
"3G" is pretty vague. Anybody found what 3G frequencies it supports?
Nevermind- 2100MHz only and 15mm thick. I'll pass.
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"3G" is pretty vague. Anybody found what 3G frequencies it supports?
Nevermind- 2100MHz only and 15mm thick. I'll pass.
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you're right same me :\ i really wanted because of water resistant but not if it going to be really thick and as you said only 2100mhz. well...hope other will come, do'nt get me wrong i love the D5 but i wish it was also water resistant ip67\68.
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"3G" is pretty vague. Anybody found what 3G frequencies it supports?
Nevermind- 2100MHz only and 15mm thick. I'll pass.
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I completely agree with your observations, and I could also add that I don't like the design, but 3 points are worthy of some close examination:
1- The watch has the newer MTK6580 SoC which is a quad-core (!!!) and already has support for Android 5.x
2- The watch has Android 5.1
3- The watch seems to have very interesting new features in his watch faces, look at the attached images.
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I completely agree with your observations, and I could also add that I don't like the design, but 3 points are worthy of some close examination:
1- The watch has the newer MTK6580 SoC which is a quad-core (!!!) and already has support for Android 5.x
2- The watch has Android 5.1
3- The watch seems to have very interesting new features in his watch faces, look at the attached images.
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Very interesting pictures. It looks like the watch face has touchable areas for calls and messages. Perhaps that means this is more of a full tethering watch than the D5/K8 class. My budget is pretty well shot for buying new watches, but I tell you what. If any of you are inclined to contact the seller @soniasophie9697 suggests and recommend they send a sample unit to me for a SmartWatchTicks YouTube review before you make a decision to buy, I'll do you right and run it through the mill, including taking it apart and looking inside. Hey, worth a try! The reason I ask is I *may* have two other vendors sending me two new watches for review to get them some exposure, so this concept might be catching on. We'll see. Here's sonia's link again: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016..._9&btsid=d33f34da-3626-4e07-8b0e-a93184485b7c
Thanks!
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Very interesting pictures. It looks like the watch face has touchable areas for calls and messages. Perhaps that means this is more of a full tethering watch than the D5/K8 class. My budget is pretty well shot for buying new watches, but I tell you what. If any of you are inclined to contact the seller @soniasophie9697 suggests and recommend they send a sample unit to me for a SmartWatchTicks YouTube review before you make a decision to buy, I'll do you right and run it through the mill, including taking it apart and looking inside. Hey, worth a try! The reason I ask is I *may* have two other vendors sending me two new watches for review to get them some exposure, so this concept might be catching on. We'll see. Here's sonia's link again: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016..._9&btsid=d33f34da-3626-4e07-8b0e-a93184485b7c
Thanks!
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Here you could have direct contact with the vendor of that watch:
http://iqi.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-802698717/New_I2_Smart_Watch.html
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Same watch seems to be available with some different design
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Here you could have direct contact with the vendor of that watch:
http://iqi.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-802698717/New_I2_Smart_Watch.html
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Thanks @cyrux75. I'll give it a try. Always better to work with the vendor. More motivation for total product line marketing to support exposure.
Are the bands removable?
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Are the bands removable?
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No, not unless you have replacement bands with antennas in them.
2100MHz is ok for Europe .
but i am only interested in this device if there are enough donations for Loki that he would pimp the rom
The company behind this watch (as referred by @cyrux75) calls this watch the Q1 and has a video on it here:
http://iqi-smartwatch.com/iqi-new-smart-watch-q1/
Wow - that's a chunky beast !!
I contacted them to see if they would be interested in letting out some samples.
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Wow - that's a chunky beast !!
I contacted them to see if they would be interested in letting out some samples.
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yep, but it's good to know that now there will be upgraded android watches, i just wish that more apps will suit these watches since the community of users is big. i do'nt want the Wear watch not because of the price but because it is not usable without the phone and the gear s\s2 do'nt have many apps for them.
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yep, but it's good to know that now there will be upgraded android watches, i just wish that more apps will suit these watches since the community of users is big. i do'nt want the Wear watch not because of the price but because it is not usable without the phone and the gear s\s2 do'nt have many apps for them.
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Yeah, I'll be watching with interest :good:
IQI, the supplier, I know personally.
Just to be clear, there is no Google of any sort, according to IQI. They say they want to partner with some US companies willing to provide Google.
I would suggest their M200 model, it is thinner.
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IQI, the supplier, I know personally.
Just to be clear, there is no Google of any sort, according to IQI. They say they want to partner with some US companies willing to provide Google.
I would suggest their M200 model, it is thinner.
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Sad part is they can't, at least legally. Google has gone after a couple of makers and has made it very clear that no full Android smartwatch can have Google Services. It's either their private Club Wear or nothing.
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Sad part is they can't, at least legally. Google has gone after a couple of makers and has made it very clear that no full Android smartwatch can have Google Services. It's either their private Club Wear or nothing.
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Are No.1, FINOW, and ZGPAX treading on thin ice then? All three offer full GPS (Google Play Services) complete with updates through the GPS (Google Play Store). Seems like Google would cut them off the update process at a minimum. Something doesn't add up.
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Are No.1, FINOW, and ZGPAX treading on thin ice then? All three offer full GPS (Google Play Services) complete with updates through the GPS (Google Play Store). Seems like Google would cut them off the update process at a minimum. Something doesn't add up.
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Here the issue. In China, where these watches come from, Google has little power. The Chinese laws regarding IP are, well, fluid. Companies are more or less left to keep their stuff secret and if pilfered, "to bad, so sad". Start making waves outside of China and it's a different game. For example;
Omate was including Google apps on their Omate TS, Google didn't notice. Omate got popular and covered very heavily in the press and Google took notice. An "oh no you don't" from Google and . . . Google apps "disappear" from the TS and are hidden behind a "secret code". Google catches wind of this and Omate gets a "we should talk". After that, Google apps are removed completely.
Tons of devices are released every year with some of them being different by only a couple of lines in the build.prop. If Google said, "no more w812a"s get access", the ODM can change that line to say "W812a" then "w812A" and so on. Multiply that by the hundreds of different Android devices that come out of China every year. Another thing to consider is that, at least for smartwatches, without official certifications there is no interest by app devs as a whole to support these devices. This leaves these devices without properly formatted apps which kills interest for most folks.
So little to no western market presence is both a blessing (Google doesn't take notice) and a curse (less sales).