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Or whatever the next model Xperia will be.
I'm pretty happy with my X10 but only because it's been completely changed with a custom rom.
Sony really dropped the ball on this one.
The Arc looks really nice and a huge upgrade but since my X10 is doing well at the moment and there's not really a need for me to upgrade should I hang onto my X10 until the model after the Arc is announced? (maybe a year from now)
I would the keep X10, unless your very unsatisfied about an aspect of the X10.
Honestly the hardware should be okay for at least another year and the Arc doesn't isn't a huge upgrade in terms of hardware, not meaning that there aren't good improvements, and upgrading quickly between devices is not always a great idea.
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Or whatever the next model Xperia will be.
I'm pretty happy with my X10 but only because it's been completely changed with a custom rom.
Sony really dropped the ball on this one.
The Arc looks really nice and a huge upgrade but since my X10 is doing well at the moment and there's not really a need for me to upgrade should I hang onto my X10 until the model after the Arc is announced? (maybe a year from now)
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Hardware specs wise, I don't see a huge benefit in upgrading to Arc. The only reason I want to upgrade is bigger screen size and awesome looking design. Frankly, I think SE could have done at least some of the specs better like more RAM and 16GB built-in memory or at least gave 32GB microSD card instead of 8GB which most of us will replace with at least 16GB.
If I am looking for better hardware specs, I will probably consider Galaxy S2. But, Samsung's lack any originality in design and not having a LED notification is a bumper.
Xperia Arc is not the "thing" yet
Sony Ericsson might be overlooking the competition on this one(once again). Last time I'd decided to upgrade from Xperia X1i to X10i were the following:
-OS switch. From Windows mobile to Android.
-Camera. X10 was one of the very few android with 8MP camera.
-Compatible battery. X10 uses the BST-41 battery model, I currently own 4 extra ones since acquisition of my previous X1.
Despite of the following drawbacks that I'm aware of:
-donut version (from that time July 2010). That time was the froyo(2.2) fever.
-Lower RAM compared to other manufacturer flagship phones.
-No dual touch(from that time July 2010).
-Low internal memory storage
-Bootloader not yet cracked(from that time July 2010).
What I'm waiting for as my turning points are the following:
-at least have 8GB internal memory storage & microSD support
-Dual-Core Processor. Given their at its mainstream(2nd gen onwards).
-HDMI out.
-More decent touchscreen support.
-within 4"-3.7" screen. I'm not into very big screens really.
-atleast 512mb RAM.
-atleast 1500mAh capacity battery
So base on these, Xperia Arc is not there yet. Similarly from the time they introduced Xperia X10 all they flaunt was the screen and camera. Flagship competition today battles it out with the dual-core hardware already, why haven't they?
Yes you're actually right.
With the new Droid Bionic and other dual core smart phones coming out maybe I'll wait until next iteration of Xperia for big improvements.
With the bootloader bypassed and custom kernal roms starting to roll out....i think I'm gonna save myself $700 and not purchase the arc. I'm gonna hang on to this beast and see where the devs take it from here.
I'm using trips miui rom with freekernal and I'm in awe at the difference. Its really making SE look bad that they couldn't do this for us from the start.
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Wait until MWC 2012..
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4g/lte should be another factor in deciding?
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Sony will make a comeback... Just wait They are making money because they almost don't have. When they got it with the arc play and stuff they will make a great phone.
If you have the money, buy it it will encourage SE to make better products.
But in reality, I'd say it's not a big upgrade from X10.. I took the time yesterday to Arc-ify my X10 and it's looking so much alike, I love it.
If I could I'd get it just because of the biggest screen and slimmer body, and because I dont' like *any* of the crap LG or Samsung (design wise) is putting out.
Wait. Buying such expensive phones with not much diff is a waste.. Keep the x10 and use wolfbreaks rom, it is based on the ARC UI, and on the outside it's not that big diff between them..
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Wait for what the dev´s do with the bootloader or for the official gingerbread update, then decide.
This segways the OP a bit; but if I'm reading SE's intentions correctly, Sony Computer Entertainment is planning on pushing the PlayStation Suite Platform rather than top-of-the-line phones with huge hardware increments.
This means Sony will pour serious money to motivate OTHER handset makers to build phones capable of playing new top-tier games and keep the Xperia tech specs pretty much where you see the x10 and the Arc.
So in short; yeah: stick to the x10 until you see what SE announces after the Arc.
Sony about to unleash four new Android smartphones later this year
Sony has been on quite a roll. At least as far as mobile phone launches are concerned. This year alone, five handsets in different segments have been launched by the company. These range from the high-end Xperia Z and ZL to the mid-range Xperia SP to the low-tier Xperia E and Xperia L. But it seems the company is not stopping at just these five.
According to the rumour, a certain Sony Xperia A, codenamed Dogo, will be added to the Japanese carrier NTT DoCoMo’s line-up sometime in the summer months. It is said to have a 4.6-inch screen and is powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 processor. Other specs include 2GB of RAM, 32GB of native storage and a 2300 mAh battery capacity. The phone will be water and dust resistant, like the Xperia Z and Tablet Z, and will bring along support for NFC. An IR Blaster is also said to be aboard.
Also on the roadmap is the Sony Xperia UL, which we are dreading to see since it is codenamed Gaga. The phone is said to be very closely based on the Sony Xperia ZL and will also have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 under the hood. Other specs that have leaked of the Xperia UL say it will have 32GB of internal storage, 2GB of RAM and a 2300 mAh battery as well as NFC support.
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So they are just gonna churn out phones after phones..Xperia Z will be forgotten even before the end of the year this way..And apart from that..why so many phones? And with same capabilities of XZ? Whats wrong with sony..Htc just learnt its lesson!
Releases of new phones won't make your Z any worse, FYI.
As long as Sony release 4.2.2 and hopefully 5.0 there's nothing wrong with them spamming the market.
Its not just about firmware..If you release so many phones in the market the brand value of a flagship like XZ decreases as your giving same features and water/dust proofing on lower end phones.. what was so unique about XZ? this was one of the key factors.
Well Sony are not going competed in the mobile market only releasing a couple of handsets pair year. If they did they may as well just go home. Think Apple are the only manufacturer that could truly do that at present. Remember Sony are struggling at the moment. So if this is there business strategy then so be it. I still love my XZ price depreciation and all.
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Well company needs to capture the market, Z is already running on an old processor, flagship from HTC and Samsung are using faster processors already, they have to keep up the fight with them. That said i am sure Z will get upgraded to 5.0 and we should not care much about other phones.
XZ does not have an 'old' processor..Yes its S4 Pro but its clocked and implemented in such a way that its 2 time faster than nexus 4 with the same processor.
Everything can be run on an XZ that S4 and HTC one can do..There is nothing they can do extra. The jump from XZ to ONE is 30% and that is just benchmarks..In real life usage you will be able to use any app or game that the HTC ONE plays..Battery endurance test on gsm arena is same 48hr for both..Btw HTC ONE Gl graphics benchmark is just 30 fps..Which is lower than XZ
P.S- XZ is cheaper than HTC ONE AND S4...I got it for 644$ in my country..S4 and HTC ONE are coming for Around 773$
While I do understand you might feel bad that your Z will get outdated soon, you should also understand the situation Sony is in currently.
The Mobile business is THE most crucial business for Sony currently and their future depends on it. If they can consolidate market share further and grab the No.3 spot with a solid lead over HTC, Huawei, ZTE etc it will secure the future of Sony Group as a whole.
So new phones will definitely keep coming this year as Sony needs to survive.
I think it's a bad mistake. Dilution of the brand can never be a good idea. This is not a question about keeping up with the competition, if they wanted to do that, then they should have strived to release the Z with the 600 cpu. Releasing devices with that cpu in September or October will not make any impression because by then all eyes will have turned to the 800 cpu and whatever Qualcomm has to offer after that.
This strategy didn't turn out too well for the Xperia T, the phone that quick time forgot. Even the Xperia S is still regarded by most as Sony's flagship of 2012.
Sony should not get too involved in the spec race, well as far as cpus go anyway. The s4 pro on the Z is plenty fine and it's not it's weakness.
Sony's major problem is software development, everywhere you look the Xperia brand is being let down by software. Whether it be releasing phones with dated os and taking forever to update. The Xperia S is still waiting for JB while the galaxy s2, Samsung's phone of 2011 is about to get it if it hasn't already.
On top of that, you often get very weak software from Sony that takes ages for them to improve.
The software on my Z is its weakest link, whether it be the ui lag or the poor camera software that means you really have to take your time to get the best results from the camera.
Again and again, the hardware is being let down by the software.
Considering how lean and feature poor the Sony software is, it's really shockingly poor that it takes them so long to a) release stable builds and b) roll out updates.
Samsung's touchwiz is packed to the hilt with loads of software additions but yet, Samsung get it out quicker, up to date, and more stable than Sony can dream of right now.
For me, this is where Sony falls down really badly. They really need to bring in some excellent developers to turn things around.
Having a so called flagship waiting almost a year for a software update is just pathetic.
I said it before, I'll reserve my final judgement on the Z until I see the 4.2.2 software because I know it takes Sony linger than most to put out decent and stable software. Also the 4.1 has little or no software additions from Sony with the exception of the new launcher which I think is a bit ridiculous without an overview mode and the stamina mode and new camera app. Everything still looks the same from the gingerbread days.
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Too many new phones will simply mean delayed updates.
The r&d team remains the same.
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Considering how lean and feature poor the Sony software is, it's really shockingly poor that it takes them so long to a) release stable builds and b) roll out updates.
Samsung's touchwiz is packed to the hilt with loads of software additions but yet, Samsung get it out quicker, up to date, and more stable than Sony can dream of right now.
For me, this is where Sony falls down really badly. They really need to bring in some excellent developers to turn things around.
Having a so called flagship waiting almost a year for a software update is just pathetic.
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I agree with your software complaint. The fact the camera takes 3 seconds to open is completely unacceptable, especially considering the Xperia S was so fast at booting up the camera. That said, I don't have too many problems with the software on the Z.
This is my first Sony smartphone, but I've noticed Sony almost always releases phones with outdated software AND dated computing hardware. The Xperia S was the first dual core Sony smartphone (I think) and it was months behind the Sensation, North American S2,and many others, all while having the same processor. Same goes for the Xperia T.
The fact that Sony intends to release so many phones this year probably has something to do with getting their high end devices to as many carriers/countries as possible. For instance, the Xperia Z isn't available in Canada. We're getting the ZL. In any event, coupling Sony's reputation for not releasing timely updates and the fact they're going to allegedly have 4-5 flagship devices this year, I'm not confident we're going to see many significant updates. Hopefully CM is able to keep us up to date!
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It isn't a new thing from Sony anyway... I have never use smartphone other than Sony 's for my entire life and it was since somewhere around x10 to x arc period they started to release phones to different target user like flagship, middle range and budget phones In each year.
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They simply replaced with smartphones their previous portfolio.
And this is natural. Every other OEM does that exept Apple.
This is good for the company to support all the market niches.
Would you rather they release phone to cater for everyone's budget OR be like apple and only sell expensive devices?
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^Seriously! Its not about them releasing multiple phones..Its about them releasing SO MANY phones..
Why not one for budget, mid-range and flagship? This is what i mean!
Simple. To make money. They know that if they release 12 phones in a year, for example, that 3 will sell REALLY well, 6/7 will sell fairly well and the remaining probably won't sell very well. But each one of those is still a sale which means more money for the company.
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The ZL is understandable as it's an experimental device to see how users react to the form factor. If it does well, I'm pretty certain Sony's flagship of 2014 will follow the same style. But if they release another flagship this year, that'll really piss me off, there is no need for a 600 cpu replacement for the Z. The Zs got all the raw power it needs. Flagship devices should stand for a year at least, the successful companies follow that principle. They can release a note style device this year but a new flagship smartphone, that demeans the Xperia brand, not to talk of the consequences for software support. They shouldn't go down that road again. Like I said before, software is their greatest weakness and I'd like to see signs that all resources are consolidated and brought to bare to offer the best possible user experience to a dedicated line of phones. If Sony don't address this software issue soon, I could conceivably go Samsung next year. HTC have proved that they don't quite no which way to go.
I also have a feeling that the gs4 will be the last cheap looking Samsung flagship we'll see. The s5 I expect will be different because it must be obvious to Samsung that that's it's weakest link too.
I also believe that Samsung is slowly beginning to accept that it's own proprietary stuff can't compete. We're likely to see them move away from super amoled to solux LCD displays and from exynos to snapdragon. We can see that happening already as 70% of s4s will use the 600 cpu. I don't think they'll have an exynos that can take on say a 2.3ghz cortex a15 snapdragon 800 cpu.
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What's wrong with releasing 4-6 phones a year ? They need to address the whole market, not only high-end devices, but also low-end, mid-end and entry level. Now people seem to have a problem with too many phones being released... seriously, what the hell has gotten into you people ?
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What's wrong with releasing 4-6 phones a year ? They need to address the whole market, not only high-end devices, but also low-end, mid-end and entry level. Now people seem to have a problem with too many phones being released... seriously, what the hell has gotten into you people ?
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But Sony is releasing 4-5 flagship devices. From the looks of it, 3 are coming out with the Qualcomm 600 cpu, and likely another with the Qualcomm 800 at the end of the year. Good for them but I suspect it will leave those of us with Xperia Z and ZL's waiting longer for updates.
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But Sony is releasing 4-5 flagship devices. From the looks of it, 3 are coming out with the Qualcomm 600 cpu, and likely another with the Qualcomm 800 at the end of the year. Good for them but I suspect it will leave those of us with Xperia Z and ZL's waiting longer for updates.
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Then wouldn't the obvious demand is for sony to hire more software engineer than to demands that they stop making more phone?
Other thing from other post is that isn't The other obvious answer on why they cant just release 3 phone a year for different price range is because HTC has done it with their one series and by the looks of it, the strategy fails miserably.
And I think from the time of the arc, sony had released 2 flagship a year, so not sure why people still think they will only do just one. The thing about sony is it main market are where people buy PAYG and without subsidies. So people are really price sensitive. Releasing 2 flagship would land sony as the cheapest but most powerful phone on the block. The Z here in Malaysia can be bought at around us550. Making it slightly more expensive than the nexus 4 and S3. The hTC one and S4 are a cool us200 more. The xperia V, which are much better than the s3 is now at US300, making it even cheaper than the S2.
Interesting enough by doing what a lot of people here hates, sony climb to number 2 spot just behind Samsung, while HTC with their one series experiment that people here seems to love drop even lower. So I guess, they are on the right track.
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All it looks like they're doing is throwing loads of phones out on the market and hoping one sticks and becomes successful.
The more devices they release the more delays it will cause with updates.
Bad move in my opinion but they obviously know better.
You do get the sense though with Sony that once a new mobile comes out their 'previous flagship' is dropped like a sack of *bleep* and it takes forever for anything to be updated.
Just a couple of weeks old, the Xperia Z2 and Sony is already working on its newest flagship, the Sony xperia Z3.
What is expected??
Brand new design,
Newer display technology,
Faster CPU/GPU
More ram and more internal memory!
Why is Sony working so rapidly with flagships?
Director Kurozumi Yoshiro told Japanese media, that with all the technical evolutions in mobile devices, it's too hard to compete with a yearly cycle, so that they are forced to go ahead with a 6 month cycle, to make sure, Sony is still in competition!
What are your thoughts, your expectations and your wishes for the new upcoming "Z" device?
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If they could keep the software up to date on the "obsolete" £500 6 month old handsets with features and bug fixes then great. But they're going too fast and leaving people with expensive handsets with half finished, broken or missing software features. Hardware tends to be on the better side, imo
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Could this be a possible new design sony will be revealing?
A display with no edges and no bezels?
What are we to expect when there is a complete new design being worked on?
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Could this be a possible new design sony will be revealing?
A display with no edges and no bezels?
What are we to expect when there is a complete new design being worked on?
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I can guarantee you that that isn't the device that's going to be released as the Z3. Not to be rude, but no one here will have a clue what the Z3 or any future device is going to be. (or they do know, but can't say)
Read what I wrote. I did not say it's the device, I just asked if this could be a possible design!
Just to make sure there are no misunderstandings!!!
Regards!!
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I can guarantee you that that isn't the device that's going to be released as the Z3. Not to be rude, but no one here will have a clue what the Z3 or any future device is going to be. (or they do know, but can't say)
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I can guess it's omnibalance design
Can't believe what Sony is doing right now, I understand that you plan ahead on future products but this is too soon especially seing as the Z1 came out in October and now Z2 . I remember getting a pone and using it at least 12months before feeling outdated
Not at all impressed. The biggest issue is that the flagship we bring now won't be the most important 6 months down the line, and hence we won't get updates too quick (same with Samsung as well, though they tend to update both Note and S flagships together.), which is extremely stupid and a reason why I might move away from Sony.
well... i cant afford buying a new phone that often.... and i dont plan to for the future... i have had the arc s, S, Z and now Z1... maybe i will wait until the Z4 arrives before buying my next phone hehe
At last who cares about Z3? I don't, I care about Z1 and some aspects of Z2, just to compare them both. We have to focus to develop a massive Developing Section for Z1, this is what we should do now.
All ive got to say is Sony really lol
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good luck sony ,this is my last sony phone cracker jack toy,
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Just a couple of weeks old, the Xperia Z2 and Sony is already working on its newest flagship, the Sony xperia Z3.
What is expected??
Brand new design,
Newer display technology,
Faster CPU/GPU
More ram and more internal memory!
Why is Sony working so rapidly with flagships?
Director Kurozumi Yoshiro told Japanese media, that with all the technical evolutions in mobile devices, it's too hard to compete with a yearly cycle, so that they are forced to go ahead with a 6 month cycle, to make sure, Sony is still in competition!
What are your thoughts, your expectations and your wishes for the new upcoming "Z" device?
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You know who hates this more than users trying to keep up with next big thing? Stores who have inventory that's at risk of being discounted every 6 months vs every year. If I were stocking Sony I'd have a very strong contractual obligation that Sony covers the costs of big wholesale price decreases. Either that or I'd stock a very small amount of devices.
It's hard enough getting Sony phones in the States. Stuff like this is another reason retailers and carriers will not want to carry them.
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Just a couple of weeks old, the Xperia Z2 and Sony is already working on its newest flagship, the Sony xperia Z3.
What is expected??
Brand new design,
Newer display technology,
Faster CPU/GPU
More ram and more internal memory!
Why is Sony working so rapidly with flagships?
Director Kurozumi Yoshiro told Japanese media, that with all the technical evolutions in mobile devices, it's too hard to compete with a yearly cycle, so that they are forced to go ahead with a 6 month cycle, to make sure, Sony is still in competition!
What are your thoughts, your expectations and your wishes for the new upcoming "Z" device?
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Source?
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Source?
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There is no source for sure.
BTW, I predict the future too, I see Z5 in 2015. :cyclops:
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There is no source for sure.
BTW, I predict the future too, I see Z5 in 2015. :cyclops:
..LOL..
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galaxy s to s5 took 5 years, z to z5 in 2 years, really sony is catching up
Going by what they said about releasing a flagship every six months, im pretty sure the Z3 is coming this year
But i wonder how long can Sony keep this rhythm
By next year we'll have 5 flaships still elegible for updates, not counting the rest of the Sony lineup
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A German android blog, who were at a conference where this was mentioned!
www.go2android.de/sony-xperia-z3-soll-schon-im-august-kommen/
It's not the only source, but it's the only source I am able to give you!!
I don't know when I can say more. But there is a lot more about this!
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You know who hates this more than users trying to keep up with next big thing? Stores who have inventory that's at risk of being discounted every 6 months vs every year. If I were stocking Sony I'd have a very strong contractual obligation that Sony covers the costs of big wholesale price decreases. Either that or I'd stock a very small amount of devices.
It's hard enough getting Sony phones in the States. Stuff like this is another reason retailers and carriers will not want to carry them.
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Well I have other sources, where people will be surprised and probably real mad, because other companies are thinking about starting the same tactics with 6 month flagships!
Can't mention who, but those are really big known high end producers
Sony is just the first to start off!
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Can't mention who, but those are really big known high end producers
Sony is just the first to start off!
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Ok, but this is not good at all!
So apparently the Zs are dead replaced by the newly announced Xperia X series.
There were 3 X models, none smaller than 5". Does that mean there will be no "compact" models anymore or for at least some time?
I think I'm done with Sony. Their decision making is a train wreck.
They can give is new devices with 4,6" or 4,7" devices.
Think about the performance which the compact devices have. No compact device from another manufacturer has nearly the same performance than their big brothers as from Sony!
I bought my z5c 3 days ago and i had changed from a z1c, and I didn't realize the different performance. The only change i realized is the fingerprinting sensor.
So what you want from a real compact device?
I did understand, that the X-series is "mid-to-high-end", whereas the Z will stay the "high-end" series.
(I think, the X-series does not make sense, too many devices... - just make the Z-series little cheaper ).
I'm sure they'll revisit in few years when Apple makes few more billion on the updated 5S and Sony slumps down further.
I'm by no means an Apple supporter but they seem to be the only ones that have any understanding what the market wants and how to make money...
I was telling myself I should have not bought the Z5 Compact and waited for X Performance instead, then I saw the expected price and I think Z5 Compact was a very good choice.
I really don't understand Sony's strategy at all now. Announcing new phones that won't be out for months is going to royally duck up the Z5 sales. No compact models, no phablet models. What is this X series supposed to be? Is Z6 coming at all? So many questions.
Also where's my Marshmallow? (but that's a whole other thread)
You'll have to wait more months to know this.
The XA is 5" but, based on the width, is nearly compact.
I think that Sony will launch a replacement for the Z5C at the end of the year.
Compact (one-handed) mid/hi-end phones are getting "a bit" popular. Apple is trying to launch a smaller phone (I know a lot of people who still use the small iPhone and consider the 4.7" iPhone 6/6S big). I think that Google realized that many customers didn't like the size jump from 5 to 5X. (And I didn't like the jump from GNexus or Moto X to Nexus 5 in size), so maybe we'll have some small Nexus alternatives, who knows..
In Japan, smaller phone is very demanding that's why Sony making compact and you guys will see next model again in future no worry. Z1c and Z3c even beat the sales of IP5s in Japan.
Sony has stated that z serieswas phase from sony ericsson to Sony. Now x series is their new series that will be their top line.
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I really don't understand Sony's strategy at all now. Announcing new phones that won't be out for months is going to royally duck up the Z5 sales. No compact models, no phablet models. What is this X series supposed to be? Is Z6 coming at all? So many questions.
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There will be no Z6
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...ew-X-series-will-replace-the-Z-series_id78726
Let us all join in a moment of silence
Well I guess that just makes our z5c that extra bit special
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You'll have to wait more months to know this.
The XA is 5" but, based on the width, is nearly compact.
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But the Xperia XA is based on the budget Mediatek P10 SOC. Unless they put a high-end SOC in a compact phone I wouldn't consider it an alternative to the Z compact-series!
I hope they have something else coming. Otherwise I guess I'll have to stick with my current phone for a while longer than planned.
Sony fooled me once with the Xperia S and now with the Z5C (that I have kept in a box waiting for the FW update). They will never fool me again, that's for sure.
What was wrong with the XPERIA S? I LOVED that phone. Camera was a bit naff but everything was good. I especially liked the transparent LED strip at the bottom.
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What was wrong with the XPERIA S? I LOVED that phone. Camera was a bit naff but everything was good. I especially liked the transparent LED strip at the bottom.
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As you said, the camera, and the lack of updates, same as for the Z5C.
Was a smidgen close to buying the z5c again after trying and not liking the 5x. Glad I didn't. Support will be dead imo. I'm going for the new iphone se. Only new small high end phone incoming. I know most here don't care but it is rumoured to have the a9/m9 processors, hopefully 2gb ram, 12mp Camara, touch Id ect. Basically a high end 4 incher. Been using my son's old iphone 5 for the last couple weeks and I'm kind of loving it. Yeah I know, you'd never go to Apple no matter what. Ha well if Sony had their crap together, I wouldn't have been persuaded by another manufacturer.
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What was wrong with the XPERIA S? I LOVED that phone. Camera was a bit naff but everything was good. I especially liked the transparent LED strip at the bottom.
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I was a XS white user and that one no doubt more beautiful than my Z5c... lol
@weasel is right. Sony was the best manufacturer that prided performance in the compact lineup vs offering us a Mini. This has changed due to lack of sales cause they don't believe in lining pockets of reviews some 3 yrs ago to win the market and bait clicks on every Sony news. They pass HUGE dollars to bolster security leak and paid employees that sued them due to that security leak.
Their ensuring manufacturing costs don't explode with the higher US dollar which also affects profits in Europe and the UK!! Look at current currency exchange rates then tarrifs this hurts profits!
Sony is on a path to offer a sort of luxury lineup at the mid range with acceptable performance without heavy R&D which translates into more profits from revenues to fund a better Z series replacement at the high end luxury scale. Sony can test the waters with the X series (which is NOT the first time this existed, recall the X1 that was a beauty but built by HTC) this allows the Z lineup to continue selling, while they stop manufacturing in early May, empty out the distribution channels and complete revenues for that target market I'm happy to buy 2 Xperia Z5C's to hold me back until a real luxury compact suits my needs from Sony. Then the X lineup is introduced, if it fails no major cost to Sony. If it takes they may be able to release a new series with a name not a letter. Sony is running out of letters X is now repeated in 5yrs, M, S, Z, T, U, not much left that doesn't sound weird.
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"I did understand, that the X-series is "mid-to-high-end", whereas the Z will stay the "high-end" series.
(I think, the X-series does not make sense, too many devices... - just make the Z-series little cheaper  )." the Z series will have a price cut soon. But that's retail look for cheaper quality enjoyed Z's to keep you running. MARSHMALLOW DELAY is annoying BUT I'd rather NOT have Android Memory sharing like LG did with the G5!! I paid for my MicroSD I own it not Android! So don't for it on anyone. Samsung learner this with the SGS7 so I'm inclined to think Sony will too.
@josie I seem to recall the Xperia S had a few updates to Kitkat thus well supported. Not sure about camera woes though you may need to elaborate in full.
Sony already gave a statement saying the Z line is no more. I think it's a REALLY terrible idea, but they know better I guess.
It's possible they maybe working on something better b
I have got xperia sp as my first android phone,it gave a lot of memories,a connection to my old friends via whatsapp or the smooth android with a huge 1gb memory,i bought it in 2013, but sadly it has worn out,i have currently flashed android 6 and planning to upgrade to android 7.
The dualshock 3 pairing is most crucial aspect of this phone,in its essence this phone was a legend.
I will ask you guys this,
What should i buy next,
iPhone 6s/7 or a new android phone?
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I think you should buy an Android phone.
Xperia XZ - Xperia X Compact my suggestions.
Whatever works best for you?
I, for example, tried a few phones and decided after it which one would be my next phone. I advice you to do the same: try a few ones and choose the one that works best for you.
I dont want iphone to show off or something,i just want to use it as well..ios..so it is an option otherwise i am thinking google pixel...has anyone used it??
So, what's your budget? Around $650 or something?
And are you play any games on phone?
I'd say get a Xperia X Compact, if it fits on your hands. (Same screen size, but different body dimension, when it hold my hand it feels much better than Z3 Compact, yep i've checked at phone shop.)
[Off Topic] I still using Xperia SP, Because i'm waiting releasing the Snapdragon 830 and 835 (somewhere in future 2018 Q1)
If they're asking to me "Why waiting for new snapdragon? get it buy the Google Pixel, damn!"
But, the reason is, it would waste of money, what they're gimmick like fetaures, hardware, camera. (The most important strongest chipset it means you get good FPS in newer games, Virtual Reality cool stuff, 10nm node on chip Snapdragon, emulator if could get work like NFS Carbon, Zelda Wind Walker etc. *blah blah too much stuff if you wouldn't want to hear*)
Wait there's more, Otherwise if you don't have enough money then next year it will price cut cost, you could get steal money.
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro
OnePlus 3T
OnePlus 3T vs iPhone 7 Plus Speed/Multitasking/Heat Test!
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OnePlus 3T
OnePlus 3T vs iPhone 7 Plus Speed/Multitasking/Heat Test!
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This video is funny as hell. Comparing the specs, it blows my mind how freaking slow android is. I mean, the One Plus 3T has like 3 times more RAM than the iPhone 7 Plus, and when it "beats" it the difference is like a few seconds at most. Of course, the A10 Fusion is a freaking beast and IOS optimization is incredible, but still.
xperia x performance would be awesome.
A bit late?
I might be a bit late to this post but all I have got to say is that Sony have changed a lot, their devices used to be really nice and the software was great back in the pre-2014 days, but since then I think Sony has gone downhill, none of the devices even appeal to me anymore. Like the other guy said, don't limit yourself to Sony and go for something different-whatever is right for you. In my opinion LG is very nice-their devices appeal to me a lot.
My budget is around 600-650$
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My budget is around 600-650$
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You still haven't got a new phone? If so then you might as well wait for MWC 2017, end of Feb. There will be plenty of announcements including Nokia who may announce several phones. :victory:
Even if there isn't anything good announced, prices of current devices may be driven down so then you could jump in and get a good bargain.
That is why i am waiting for mwc,nokia android phone and many more are on their way.
Btw galaxy s8 might be announced in mwc 2017 next month
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My budget is around 600-650$
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I really loved the SP. I bought a Z3 Compact to replace it but it's slightly smaller than the SP and never felt right and then I broke it :crying:
When I read about the Edge Mod for the Moto Z I immediately backed it and bought a Moto Z Play.
So far I like everything but the camera on it. It has a great battery too.
My carrier had it on sale for half price so I ended up paying around $460 CAN with the Edge mod.