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This news is from here:
http://www.dopodasia.com/global/news/20070508_corporate.html
"Microsoft® Windows Mobile® smart handheld devices, announced today that it has signed an acquisition agreement with Dopod International, one of the leading PDA Phone and smartphone distributors in Asia, to purchase the assets of nine Dopod subsidiaries, including Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, Thailand, India, and Philippines.
The acquisition agreement, still subject to shareholder approval, was approved by HTC's Board of Directors on May 8, 2007, values the assets of Dopod International's subsidiaries at the sum of Dopod International's adjusted net worth at the end of second quarter of 2007, certified by CPA as of June 30, 2007. The transfer of all assets will become effective on July 1, 2007. HTC estimates that the sum will not exceed USD $14.5 million dollars. The combined marketing, sales, and service capabilities of both companies will strengthen HTC's position within the Asian market, providing consumers in the region with a comprehensive range of mobile devices and services. To maximize the synergies of the acquisition and to implement new joint business initiatives, Dopod International's entire workforce will be expected to join HTC. Dopod's vast, accumulated experience in the retail market will benefit HTC as HTC expands its brand presence in the future.
After the acquisition, HTC will unify the products under a single global brand. In the future, all of HTC's new products will be marketed under the HTC brand. However, Dopod International's current on-the-market products will still be sold under the Dopod brand name. Furthermore, to provide first-class service to existing Dopod customers, HTC will offer after-sales support to consumers who purchased products before the acquisition."
Will this effect us who bought Dopod product before acquisition? Or we can still our guarantee for our product?
Any one know? (wu usually you know much about dopod)
Thanks...
Yes of course there is still full support/guarantee.
"Furthermore, to provide first-class service to existing Dopod customers, HTC will offer after-sales support to consumers who purchased products before the acquisition."
cornelius said:
This news is from here:
http://www.dopodasia.com/global/news/20070508_corporate.html
"Microsoft® Windows Mobile® smart handheld devices, announced today that it has signed an acquisition agreement with Dopod International, one of the leading PDA Phone and smartphone distributors in Asia, to purchase the assets of nine Dopod subsidiaries, including Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, Thailand, India, and Philippines.
The acquisition agreement, still subject to shareholder approval, was approved by HTC's Board of Directors on May 8, 2007, values the assets of Dopod International's subsidiaries at the sum of Dopod International's adjusted net worth at the end of second quarter of 2007, certified by CPA as of June 30, 2007. The transfer of all assets will become effective on July 1, 2007. HTC estimates that the sum will not exceed USD $14.5 million dollars. The combined marketing, sales, and service capabilities of both companies will strengthen HTC's position within the Asian market, providing consumers in the region with a comprehensive range of mobile devices and services. To maximize the synergies of the acquisition and to implement new joint business initiatives, Dopod International's entire workforce will be expected to join HTC. Dopod's vast, accumulated experience in the retail market will benefit HTC as HTC expands its brand presence in the future.
After the acquisition, HTC will unify the products under a single global brand. In the future, all of HTC's new products will be marketed under the HTC brand. However, Dopod International's current on-the-market products will still be sold under the Dopod brand name. Furthermore, to provide first-class service to existing Dopod customers, HTC will offer after-sales support to consumers who purchased products before the acquisition."
Will this effect us who bought Dopod product before acquisition? Or we can still our guarantee for our product?
Any one know? (wu usually you know much about dopod)
Thanks...
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they have been wanted to do this for years, finally it's done. DOPOD was originally for Asia Market only, and HTC is for Europe Market, now there is just one global brand call HTC.
DOPOD and HTC are own by the same person in the first hand anyway, all the people who work for DOPOD will merge with HTC, therefore all the technician will remind too. Which is a good news for people who bought HTC X7500, DOPOD usually provide a better ROM. In turns of service and support, DOPOD owner don't need to worry, it will be carry on from HTC ( The Asian market is still handle under DOPOD people, it just they are call HTC now).
So in conclusion, both HTC X7500 and DOPOD U1000 benefit on this , and the amount of support we will get increase. Now we just need to hope HTC made the right decision on taking the path of brand building, as you might know, HTC used to manufacture most of the PDA before (for HP and Dell...etc). But because HTC decide to start selling it's own device, this make HP and Dell unhappy, so they start pulling out and ask other people to manufacture their device. A risky road for HTC but if they want to grow big, this is the only way, they want to be the next Nokia.
Anyway, DOPOD is working on WM6 update for DOPOD U1000 already, haven't heard anything from HTC yet, but it's quite likely DOPOD will also handle the HTC WM6 update. Afterall, they are really the same.
Thanks... for the reply...
Hope the dopod indonesia will going better to ...
why HTC uses TI and Intel, Eten - Samsung? Any real reasonns?
HTC hermes use samsung to i guess
cornelius said:
HTC hermes use samsung to i guess
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yes, that right, there is no real reason for the processor they use, sometimes it's due to the amount of stock they have for each processor.
Hello,
i very want to buy a HTC Touch HD and would like to ask something.
My friend will travel to China in September and maybe i will order 1 , how much cost HTC Touch HD in China? Is it cheaper then in Europe? I have find some chinese sites where it cost 240 usd. Is it original? What you think?
Thank you
Regards
Coktail
Coktail said:
Hello,
i very want to buy a HTC Touch HD and would like to ask something.
My friend will travel to China in September and maybe i will order 1 , how much cost HTC Touch HD in China? Is it cheaper then in Europe? I have find some chinese sites where it cost 240 usd. Is it original? What you think?
Thank you
Regards
Coktail
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USD240 is absolutely fake.
here brand new HD in China is around 527USD. just for reference.
JohnQ is right, I bought mine for around $550 US in Shenzhen about a week ago, $240 is probably either used or a "shanzhai" phone (aka rip off look-a-like).
A note however, do look closely at what you are buying as there aren't any "official" HTC retailers here in China-- where HTC operates under it's Chinese subsidary, "Dopod". Most of the HTC phones in China are brought across the border either from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
I had the store clerk bring me five Touch HDs to try and I picked the best one and haggled with them until they threw in an extra battery.
If you'd rather be sure to get the real thing, I recommend you get it from Hong Kong; it's pretty cheap there too. In China, Dopod also has an identical device also called the Touch HD, however, the difference-- like between all Dopod phones and HTC phones-- is that the Dopod versions don't include Wifi and 3G. Gov't restrictions maybe? :S
scscc3 said:
JohnQ is right, I bought mine for around $550 US in Shenzhen about a week ago, $240 is probably either used or a "shanzhai" phone (aka rip off look-a-like).
A note however, do look closely at what you are buying as there aren't any "official" HTC retailers here in China-- where HTC operates under it's Chinese subsidary, "Dopod". Most of the HTC phones in China are brought across the border either from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
I had the store clerk bring me five Touch HDs to try and I picked the best one and haggled with them until they threw in an extra battery.
If you'd rather be sure to get the real thing, I recommend you get it from Hong Kong; it's pretty cheap there too. In China, Dopod also has an identical device also called the Touch HD, however, the difference-- like between all Dopod phones and HTC phones-- is that the Dopod versions don't include Wifi and 3G. Gov't restrictions maybe? :S
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HAHA , DOPOD announced HD early this year. you know how much they are selling in the beginning? RMB8288, As exactly the same with its model number T8288, DOPOD is crazy. DOPOD HD doesn't include WIFI/3G
Can get it with 3G and Wifi in China
It is possible to get the Touch HD in here in China with 3G and Wifi....If you buy a Dopod branded phone, it won't have either, but if you go to a mobile store and ask for "shui huo" you can get them. The "shui huo" versions of the phones are usually brought in from Europe then brought across the border (tax free). Don't let the sales staff trick you into paying more for them. These phones are cheaper than the Dopod branded ones and they are exactly the same phone (with more features enabled). As mentioned above, you also have to be aware of fakes, but if you take your time and check out multiple vendors, you should be ok....Always ask to try the phone before you buy it (ALWAYS).
Additionally, it will be extremely difficult to find one with a WWE rom. I usually come on here and flash a WWE rom as soon as I get my phone...Never had a problem...
China has some great deals and some great rip-offs...Just exercise some caution and you should be fine. Test the phone and make sure the Wifi and 3G options work and you should be fine.
newer high-end mobile phones are ALWAYS cheaper in the US/EU than in china. IN fact, everything that is "name brand" or high-end is more expensive in China. THe idea that China is cheaper than the west is just totally wrong these days, when I go back to the USA I stock up on clothes, electronics, etc. as the quality is certain, there are no spy programs or disabled features, and the price is much lower. If you want to buy cheap garbage, it will be cheaper in China, but for anything nice it is MUCH more expensive.
mlalahoi said:
newer high-end mobile phones are ALWAYS cheaper in the US/EU than in china. IN fact, everything that is "name brand" or high-end is more expensive in China. THe idea that China is cheaper than the west is just totally wrong these days, when I go back to the USA I stock up on clothes, electronics, etc. as the quality is certain, there are no spy programs or disabled features, and the price is much lower. If you want to buy cheap garbage, it will be cheaper in China, but for anything nice it is MUCH more expensive.
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That's not necessarily true...
HTC is a Taiwanese company and they export their products to places all over the world. One of them is Hong Kong, and as we all know, there are no taxes, customs, tariffs, or whatever on imported products there. Thus, electronics are generally cheaper in Hong Kong than they are elsewhere. Also, due to the proximity of Hong Kong and Taiwan, shipping is also cheaper than to the Americas for example, thus further reducing the end-user cost (however this may just be a little bit). Therefore, many of the "shui huo" HTC products brought into China from places like Hong Kong actually end up being cheaper (even more if you haggle and perhaps they'll throw in some goodies too!) than they are elsewhere.
Hope that sheds some light upon this issue.
So now now... don't go around making imperatives like "everything" all the time... hehe
This thread is really helpin me out.
Anyone can point me where to get the best price in Hongkong. I'm particularly looking for HTC Touch Pro CDMA.
Thanks before
mrayearth said:
This thread is really helpin me out.
Anyone can point me where to get the best price in Hongkong. I'm particularly looking for HTC Touch Pro CDMA.
Thanks before
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You could try Mong Kok/Wang Jiao Computer Centre; you can get some great deals if you haggle...
Check it out. It's near the Ladie's/Women's Market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mong_Kok
So the US T-Mobile branded phone is for all intents and purposes, a better phone going by the specs, ROM & RAM upgrade.
So why is T-Mobile offering $450 no contract, and it's around $800-$900 to import one from Australia? I mean I understand taxes duties and the likes, and exchange rates, but 1 U.S. dollar = 1.09649123 Australian dollars So there shouldn't be THAT much of a difference...
Supply and demand my friend. Although the ones that come from AU being the Telstra brand works on the ATT 3G bands.
dscottjr81 said:
Supply and demand my friend. Although the ones that come from AU being the Telstra brand works on the ATT 3G bands.
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Yes I know that the telstra version works with AT&T, which is why I'm curious of the price difference.
HD2 T-Mobile US: $450 USD no contract
HD2 Telstra: $755.88 USD ($829.00 AUD) no contract
HD2 UK: $692.04 USD (£464.99) no contract
My point is that the T-Mo phone is a better phone, spec wise compared to the Telstra one.
Why the $200+ price difference for less of a phone?
Don't forget that the poor Australians usually pay ANY electronic device / technical stuff a good deal more than everybody else in the first place, all the stuff with importing goods to a remote country for few people and transporting them all across a huge country... that would be the difference between the UK and AUS price you listed.
Then to the difference between UK and US, I'd put it down to TMO subsidizing it and selling with little or no profit for marketing reasons. Even without contract the phones are locked to their network, so they make sure they'll recover costs from service. In Europe ours aren't locked, so we can buy one and use it anywhere.
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So the US T-Mobile branded phone is for all intents and purposes, a better phone going by the specs, ROM & RAM upgrade.
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the only difference is the pre loaded software and the rom size. the ram is already proven to be the same 576
lol.
kilrah said:
Don't forget that the poor Australians usually pay ANY electronic device / technical stuff a good deal more than everybody else in the first place, all the stuff with importing goods to a remote country for few people and transporting them all across a huge country... that would be the difference between the UK and AUS price you listed.
Then to the difference between UK and US, I'd put it down to TMO subsidizing it and selling with little or no profit for marketing reasons. Even without contract the phones are locked to their network, so they make sure they'll recover costs from service. In Europe ours aren't locked, so we can buy one and use it anywhere.
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Things aren't really that expensive down here!
1) agree that T-mobile is probably still subsidising the device. The price of the Telstra version is completely unlocked and could be used on other networks.
2) the telstra price includes all taxes and charges
3) the exchange rate (USD-AUD) has varied quite a bit and was down to .77 (now at .91) at some stage in the last 6 months. Given that companies like HTC set their sales strategies months out - they might have used at lower exchange rates.
Still - I bought mine off ebay for $700 AUD. I hate telstra
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Yes I know that the telstra version works with AT&T, which is why I'm curious of the price difference.
HD2 T-Mobile US: $450 USD no contract
HD2 Telstra: $755.88 USD ($829.00 AUD) no contract
HD2 UK: $692.04 USD (£464.99) no contract
My point is that the T-Mo phone is a better phone, spec wise compared to the Telstra one.
Why the $200+ price difference for less of a phone?
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Think about it for a moment. Supply and demand. Let it sink in...
TmoUS has an HD2. AT&T and a few other Canadian carriers dont. So there's the potential of XX million of users on all of those carriers who will not get the HD2. With that in mind, the DEMAND for the HD2 is very high (as it was across Europe and Asia) and being that this is a very expensive smartphone, HTC can't churn them out like Nokia with all their dumbphones, resulting in a very low SUPPLY.
Just think of the next time you drive your car and you're low on gas. All the gas stations around you are out of gas themselves except for one. Unfortunately, this one gas station understands that you have no other alternative except coming here for gas, so it is charging $5/gal compare to $2/gal of the other ones. If you're unwilling to walk 10mi to your workplace, you'd fork over the money to fill up with $5/gal.
Now about the hardware, noone here cares about TmoUS having an extra 512MB of ROM when most people install it on their 16GB sd card anyway. So hardware is a moot point.
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My point is that the T-Mo phone is a better phone, spec wise compared to the Telstra one.
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But it isn't a better phone if you consider the 3G bands it supports.
850/2100 is dynamite.
900/2100 is good.
1700/2100 is basically useless.
tmob has a price of 450
htc has a price of 550 for the same ??
http://www.shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=36998
Just to assist anyone who is maybe holding out for the higher spec model outside of the USA - some insider non-news for you from the horses mouth:
QUESTION:
Dear HTC,
Are any of the UK mobile networks now providing the new version of the HTC HD2 that was recently released to T-Mobile USA (namely 'HD2b').
I believe this is physically identical except for the 1GB ROM instead of 512MB on the existing UK/Europe spec devices.
Do HTC envisage that this new spec device would generally replace the lower version once existing UK stock is sold through? Or are HTC genuinely continuing to manufacture two subtly different specs of the same device for Europe and USA regions until it is end-of-life.
Your time and advice would be very much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Adam R. Hirshfield
Information Systems Security Senior Specialist - Networks
T-Mobile (UK) Ltd.
RESPONSE:
Dear Adam
Thank you for contacting us.
In regards to HD2
I can help you with that.
The uk will continue to get the original model as released the other version you mentioned was negotiated for one of our partners and was specific for them. It is a bit like the G1 only being available on t-mobile
I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.
Thank you for contacting HTC.
Best regards,
HTC
So there you have it. Unfortunately it's not news to be T-lighted about - Sorry.
Either emigrate to the States, jump-in with the existing spec UK/Euro model, move on to a Desire or await (ages) for the GSM version of the EVO. My personal preference would be in that exact order.
Though the HD2 vs. Desire is quickly becoming a very tough decision. WinMo vs. Android debates aside, so thinking hardware only; The Desire's AMOLED display is gorgeous and it really is quite sizeable. It's exactly the same resolution, and colour and brightness really are superior on this one. But it is never as impressive in sheer scale of the HD2's wicked monolithic screen.
Arrrgh maybe that's why we have two pockets?...
All the best XDA-devs,
Hirshy
I don't really know what to do now either... But definitely not desire I can't downgrade the screen would be such a massive difference, rest of hardware seems really competitive though. I quite fancy the Evo but is not even annouced to UK. Is a tough decision, no doubt I can upgrade to Iphone through vodafone, but that'd be the last thing I'd do, and definitely not WP7S. Anyone can clarify xd...
I see more people from asia owning a TMOUS HTC HD2.
Most of them are Security unlocked and are from the new Model ID: PB81120
Anyone can tell me how it's posible those countries have it, and also security unlocked??
Any one can help me getting one?
xmoo said:
I see more people from asia owning a TMOUS HTC HD2.
Most of them are Security unlocked and are from the new Model ID: PB81120
Anyone can tell me how it's posible those countries have it, and also security unlocked??
Any one can help me getting one?
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I purchased one from eBay. I'm sorry, what do you mean by security unlocked?
There are a lot of tmobile HD2s and unlocking code services on Ebay. The total cost + unlock code + shipping is even cheaper than buying asian/eu version outright.
haydendo said:
I purchased one from eBay. I'm sorry, what do you mean by security unlocked?
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http://twitpic.com/1l663d
I am also interested in buying TMOUS HD2 unlocked.
enyaj said:
I am also interested in buying TMOUS HD2 unlocked.
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I got a chineese guy on my msn. He's a member here @ XDA.
He knows a store where you can but them. 420 euros.
TMOUS Security and SIM and CID unlocked.
xmoo said:
I got a chineese guy on my msn. He's a member here @ XDA.
He knows a store where you can but them. 420 euros.
TMOUS Security and SIM and CID unlocked.
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I wonder how much would everything cost in philippine money
So member "bobsbbq" should not stop developing CHT/CHS Lost In Asia ROM because it has vast market there and LIA ROM is 100% compatible with US HD2.
A side note: US HD2 supports 3G band in Hong Kong.
enyaj said:
I wonder how much would everything cost in philippine money
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someone selling at sulit.com.ph for Php 28k
wha about the 3g in asia
Not really sure how they get those phones.. i bought one Tmobile HD2 for USD 500 (euro410)(23400 phil peso), In Malaysia.. Its distributed by an approved permit company... Its a grey market thing... They are not official HTC dristributers but they are legal because they pay the govt tax therefore the govt considers it as legal business... The same goes for nokia, samsung, sony etc phones... Thought some people prefer to go through the official nokia distributer because of the better service but the phones can cost above USD100 extra.
As mentioned, U.S. devices are sold cheaper on Ebay than they are in the local stores (in the Philippines, at least).
Everytime I visit the Philippines, I go to a shopping mall (Greenhills) and look at the phones (my cousins know some of the sellers). The used smartphones cost more than some phones here in the US (subsidized or not).
I even asked my cousins in the Philippines to buy me a belt holster for my TP2. When they asked the employee how much the phone itself cost, they were shocked it cost ~$900! And I bought my T-Mo TP2 (subsidized) for $350 (un-subsidized, the TP2 costs $500)!
Also, there are a lot of T-Mo HD2s on Ebay because many T-Mo customers wanted the HD2 for its hardware. Once they met WinMo OS, they wanted to sell it as fast as possible and get their old phones back.