So the US T-Mobile branded phone is for all intents and purposes, a better phone going by the specs, ROM & RAM upgrade.
So why is T-Mobile offering $450 no contract, and it's around $800-$900 to import one from Australia? I mean I understand taxes duties and the likes, and exchange rates, but 1 U.S. dollar = 1.09649123 Australian dollars So there shouldn't be THAT much of a difference...
Supply and demand my friend. Although the ones that come from AU being the Telstra brand works on the ATT 3G bands.
dscottjr81 said:
Supply and demand my friend. Although the ones that come from AU being the Telstra brand works on the ATT 3G bands.
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Yes I know that the telstra version works with AT&T, which is why I'm curious of the price difference.
HD2 T-Mobile US: $450 USD no contract
HD2 Telstra: $755.88 USD ($829.00 AUD) no contract
HD2 UK: $692.04 USD (£464.99) no contract
My point is that the T-Mo phone is a better phone, spec wise compared to the Telstra one.
Why the $200+ price difference for less of a phone?
Don't forget that the poor Australians usually pay ANY electronic device / technical stuff a good deal more than everybody else in the first place, all the stuff with importing goods to a remote country for few people and transporting them all across a huge country... that would be the difference between the UK and AUS price you listed.
Then to the difference between UK and US, I'd put it down to TMO subsidizing it and selling with little or no profit for marketing reasons. Even without contract the phones are locked to their network, so they make sure they'll recover costs from service. In Europe ours aren't locked, so we can buy one and use it anywhere.
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So the US T-Mobile branded phone is for all intents and purposes, a better phone going by the specs, ROM & RAM upgrade.
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the only difference is the pre loaded software and the rom size. the ram is already proven to be the same 576
lol.
kilrah said:
Don't forget that the poor Australians usually pay ANY electronic device / technical stuff a good deal more than everybody else in the first place, all the stuff with importing goods to a remote country for few people and transporting them all across a huge country... that would be the difference between the UK and AUS price you listed.
Then to the difference between UK and US, I'd put it down to TMO subsidizing it and selling with little or no profit for marketing reasons. Even without contract the phones are locked to their network, so they make sure they'll recover costs from service. In Europe ours aren't locked, so we can buy one and use it anywhere.
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Things aren't really that expensive down here!
1) agree that T-mobile is probably still subsidising the device. The price of the Telstra version is completely unlocked and could be used on other networks.
2) the telstra price includes all taxes and charges
3) the exchange rate (USD-AUD) has varied quite a bit and was down to .77 (now at .91) at some stage in the last 6 months. Given that companies like HTC set their sales strategies months out - they might have used at lower exchange rates.
Still - I bought mine off ebay for $700 AUD. I hate telstra
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Yes I know that the telstra version works with AT&T, which is why I'm curious of the price difference.
HD2 T-Mobile US: $450 USD no contract
HD2 Telstra: $755.88 USD ($829.00 AUD) no contract
HD2 UK: $692.04 USD (£464.99) no contract
My point is that the T-Mo phone is a better phone, spec wise compared to the Telstra one.
Why the $200+ price difference for less of a phone?
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Think about it for a moment. Supply and demand. Let it sink in...
TmoUS has an HD2. AT&T and a few other Canadian carriers dont. So there's the potential of XX million of users on all of those carriers who will not get the HD2. With that in mind, the DEMAND for the HD2 is very high (as it was across Europe and Asia) and being that this is a very expensive smartphone, HTC can't churn them out like Nokia with all their dumbphones, resulting in a very low SUPPLY.
Just think of the next time you drive your car and you're low on gas. All the gas stations around you are out of gas themselves except for one. Unfortunately, this one gas station understands that you have no other alternative except coming here for gas, so it is charging $5/gal compare to $2/gal of the other ones. If you're unwilling to walk 10mi to your workplace, you'd fork over the money to fill up with $5/gal.
Now about the hardware, noone here cares about TmoUS having an extra 512MB of ROM when most people install it on their 16GB sd card anyway. So hardware is a moot point.
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My point is that the T-Mo phone is a better phone, spec wise compared to the Telstra one.
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But it isn't a better phone if you consider the 3G bands it supports.
850/2100 is dynamite.
900/2100 is good.
1700/2100 is basically useless.
tmob has a price of 450
htc has a price of 550 for the same ??
http://www.shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=36998
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Place your pre-orders now American customers! I have found one company located in North America. I have already placed my pre-order. The quote was provided as 550 pounds and 600 pounds with all prices inclusive.
Here is the link
link 1
or
link 2 <-- removed due to seller being fake!
link 1 is canadian customers and link 2 (removed)
It is widely available in Europe via many resellers for the same price! Enjoy! They will ship sometime in April. Brand new in box and SIM Free Unlocked and in English with a English Keyboard unlike T-mobile and Dopod!
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Place your pre-orders now American customers! I have found two companies. Both located in North America. I have already placed my pre-order. The quote was provided as 550 pounds and 600 pounds with all prices inclusive.
Here are the links
link 1
or
link 2
link 1 is canadian customers and link 2 is USA customers. Two links to avoid custom fee!
It is widely available in Europe via many resellers for the same price! Enjoy! They will ship sometime in April. Brand new in box and SIM Free Unlocked and in English with a English Keyboard unlike T-mobile and Dopod!
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The second link look quite fake, that company is only selling 1 item which is the Advantage? um.....pls be careful there. And also as i see it's still on pre-order. You sure they have confirm that price already? In uk, we have lots of website pre-ordering Advantage but the price are all soo different. You might end up paying more or less because those price is not final yet.
I can only say this again: If you want the Advantage so bad, wait until April, it will be out by then, no point doing any pre-order, you will get the machine about the same time anyway. By april, lots of company will be offering Advantage, and you can choose the best deal then.
If you really want to place your pre-order, please take some time to phone up HTC and ask them whether the price is right and is it really available now? I have just phone them and the answer is HTC ADVANTAGE IS NOT OUT AND THE PRICE IS NOT FINAL. so please be careful here...........
thanks i figured it out i removed that second link. filtering out my searches. that second seller was a fraud. thanks for revising me. wait isnt the price htcphonestore.com offering is $1500USD! >.> thats around 800 pounds and i believe thats a final price for now. but some resellers in europe offering 600 pounds. i saw it myself. and this canadian seller also offering 600 pounds. i trust the canadian seller.
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thanks i figured it out i removed that second link. filtering out my searches. that second seller was a fraud. thanks for revising me. wait isnt the price htcphonestore.com offering is $1500USD! >.> thats around 800 pounds and i believe thats a final price for now. but some resellers in europe offering 600 pounds. i saw it myself. and this canadian seller also offering 600 pounds. i trust the canadian seller.
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The europe reseller are all on pre-order, that's why the price are all not final yet. The canadian seller might just got the price from those website. Because they are all on pre-order and price not fix, no much people is putting interest in ordering them now, they rather wait until the price is confirm. The 600 pounds might comes from DOPOD U1000 as well, since that's the confirm price. I will be surprise if Advantage is only £600. from 3GSM, the HTC people say it's going be about £700, that's what expansys and mobile planet heard as well.
Usually the machine is cheaper in Asia. So Advantage should be more than £600 (DOPOD U1000).
wu5262 said:
The europe reseller are all on pre-order, that's why the price are all not final yet. The canadian seller might just got the price from those website. Because they are all on pre-order and price not fix, no much people is putting interest in ordering them now, they rather wait until the price is confirm. The 600 pounds might comes from DOPOD U1000 as well, since that's the confirm price. I will be surprise if Advantage is only £600. from 3GSM, the HTC people say it's going be about £700, that's what expansys and mobile planet heard as well.
Usually the machine is cheaper in Asia. So Advantage should be more than £600 (DOPOD U1000).
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Well you will see its going to stick to £600 when it comes out. So you should return your Dopod and pre-order an Advantage X7500. See you have nothing to loose. you will be without a phone for a month latest but thats fine. You will gain a lot of things out of this. Let me brief you on the specs of the Advantage compared to Ameo and Dopod.
Firstly,
Performance wise all of them are equal
Secondly,
Quality/Body wise Advantage tops because it uses carbon fiber/magnesium alloy and ameo uses aluminum alloy with plastic just like dopod which is not a problem at all because they look like ipod but it just gets scratched up pretty easily. Plus HTC is a much better company than T-Mobile and Dopod since you are dealing with the original manufacturer and not a name branded t-mobile or dopod. HTC maintains its originality and you are getting it first hand instead of dopod changing the entire body and name branding it. So I make a wise choice and you are very impatient so you going to regret it. Anyways i am going to wait for 1 month or over 1 month for more people to start selling black one. i want to feel dopod before i make a decision. ameo looks awesome too. but i will wait for a month or two.
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Well you will see its going to stick to £600 when it comes out. So you should return your Dopod and pre-order an Advantage X7500. See you have nothing to loose. you will be without a phone for a month latest but thats fine. You will gain a lot of things out of this. Let me brief you on the specs of the Advantage compared to Ameo and Dopod.
Firstly,
Performance wise all of them are equal
Secondly,
Quality/Body wise Advantage tops because it uses carbon fiber/magnesium alloy and ameo uses aluminum alloy with plastic just like dopod which is not a problem at all because they look like ipod but it just gets scratched up pretty easily. Plus HTC is a much better company than T-Mobile and Dopod since you are dealing with the original manufacturer and not a name branded t-mobile or dopod. HTC maintains its originality and you are getting it first hand instead of dopod changing the entire body and name branding it. So I make a wise choice and you are very impatient so you going to regret it. Anyways i am going to wait for 1 month or over 1 month for more people to start selling black one. i want to feel dopod before i make a decision. ameo looks awesome too. but i will wait for a month or two.
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I am tired of people who don't understand the relationship between DOPOD and HTC, they are basically the same company, DOPOD is the sister company of HTC which is responsible of dealing with customer. Just for those people who have not touch bothe Advantage and Dopod u1000, i have played with both and personally, i think the DOPOD U1000 has a better finish and also better quality. But again, that's my personal view.
For support wise, DOPOD will give so much better support than HTC, HTC has just recently start dealing with customer, they are not very good at it, and they are thinking to hand the US and Europe market to DOPOD since they are doing so much better. If you look at HTC Official website, can you see any update or bug fix? NO!!!!! Nothing there, although they make the machine, but they don't fix the problem, you won't get any update from HTC, instead you will get it from DOPOD and T-mobile, they are their own engineer to fix up the problems. That also explain why the DOPOD machine is running smoother than Advantage, the test unit of Advantage still seems buggy, maybe that's the reason of delay.
Anyway, so which machine should you get?
I say this again: if you want black one, go Advantage, don't think more
If your contract is due to end, go Ameo
Any other people (including people who can't wait) should consider Dopod.
Will i return my Dopod and get Advantage? Sure not!
wu5262 said:
I am tired of people who don't understand the relationship between DOPOD and HTC, they are basically the same company, DOPOD is the sister company of HTC which is responsible of dealing with customer. Just for those people who have not touch bothe Advantage and Dopod u1000, i have played with both and personally, i think the DOPOD U1000 has a better finish and also better quality. But again, that's my personal view.
For support wise, DOPOD will give so much better support than HTC, HTC has just recently start dealing with customer, they are not very good at it, and they are thinking to hand the US and Europe market to DOPOD since they are doing so much better. If you look at HTC Official website, can you see any update or bug fix? NO!!!!! Nothing there, although they make the machine, but they don't fix the problem, you won't get any update from HTC, instead you will get it from DOPOD and T-mobile, they are their own engineer to fix up the problems. That also explain why the DOPOD machine is running smoother than Advantage, the test unit of Advantage still seems buggy, maybe that's the reason of delay.
Anyway, so which machine should you get?
I say this again: if you want black one, go Advantage, don't think more
If your contract is due to end, go Ameo
Any other people (including people who can't wait) should consider Dopod.
Will i return my Dopod and get Advantage? Sure not!
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Alright i contacted the guy in montreal and he gave me a quote. He said its a pre-order. Also i asked him if there are any stores in new york or toronto where i can get this phone around april. Lets see tomorrow when i talk to him more. He said he is selling for £600 which is the same price as the dopod and thats truly amazing. Well sure i would get the dopod... its not like i got something against white.. it just seems stupid to get a keyboard with chinese characters on it and a chinese rom. Also i have never had a HTC phone.. all my phones till now.. branded by O2, Dopod or Orange... so i am really happy to see the HTC logo on my phone ^^
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Alright i contacted the guy in montreal and he gave me a quote. He said its a pre-order. Also i asked him if there are any stores in new york or toronto where i can get this phone around april. Lets see tomorrow when i talk to him more. He said he is selling for £600 which is the same price as the dopod and thats truly amazing. Well sure i would get the dopod... its not like i got something against white.. it just seems stupid to get a keyboard with chinese characters on it and a chinese rom. Also i have never had a HTC phone.. all my phones till now.. branded by O2, Dopod or Orange... so i am really happy to see the HTC logo on my phone ^^
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Nice to hear that We will wait for your info tomorrow, keep us inform.
Big difference between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000
I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
In my personal opinion I think that the weight published on the HTC site includes: HTC Advantage + Battery as it clearly says: 359g (with battery)
On the Dopod site, the weight includes: Dopod U1000 + Battery + Keyboard as it says: 375g(With battery and Magnetic Qwerty keypad)
So I think the weight difference is only what is being weighted.
And for the HSDPA/UMTS frequencies I understand that the band of 2100 MHz is the one European Carriers are using, and in the USA the carriers are using 850/1900 MHz band. I don't think HTC will release a version for USA and one for Europe, what about Asia and the rest of America? I think they are just pointing out which band you have to use if you will use it in USA or in Europe.
Please someone correct me if I am wrong.
Regards!
greatestkelvin said:
I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
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greatestkelvin said:
I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
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I think when they say "2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA" means those are the frequency for these country, it should support both.
The weight difference can be cause by many reason. i have weighted my Dopod and i got 372 which is with battery, and keyboard.
Not sure the advantage weight is including keyboard or not, it doesn't say.
But i think it make kind of sense that DOPOD is heavier (not that much anyway, don't think you will notice it) because the good material it use.
by the way, the keyboard itself weight about 80
Yes. the device support all frequency. they want to say it support2100 in Europe and 850/1900 in USA
many of phone is like it and support all of this.
Don't think HTC made 2 version of Advantage.one for Europe and one for America and ...
it is not true
tanX
in DPADB.net write all 3 device are 375 gr!!!!(include battey)
If me i'll write down tha things that fit for my costumer,and the other not to important, that what dey did i think. Give their consumer a specifict informations.
cornelius said:
If me i'll write down tha things that fit for my costumer,and the other not to important, that what dey did i think. Give their consumer a specifict informations.
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your reply is for who?
I can't underestand it
sorry
Arya said:
Yes. the device support all frequency. they want to say it support2100 in Europe and 850/1900 in USA
many of phone is like it and support all of this.
Don't think HTC made 2 version of Advantage.one for Europe and one for America and ...
it is not true
tanX
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Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.
NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.
The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).
Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.
P996 said:
Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.
NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.
The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).
Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.
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You are wrong there, The rom wasn't done by HTC, DOPOD one is done by Dopod, and T-mobile one is done by T-mobile. HTC are in charge of the hardware design.
wu5262 said:
You are wrong there, The rom wasn't done by HTC, DOPOD one is done by Dopod, and T-mobile one is done by T-mobile. HTC are in charge of the hardware design.
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Would you please name a source for this "information"? Just curious.
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Would you please name a source for this "information"? Just curious.
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I was one of the tester of Advantage, and my brother is one of the most senior engineer in HTC. I am not saying they don't do software, i am talking about the ROM. The base software wasn't even done by HTC , it's done by Microsoft !
wu5262 said:
I was one of the tester of Advantage, and my brother is one of the most senior engineer in HTC. I am not saying they don't do software, i am talking about the ROM. The base software wasn't even done by HTC , it's done by Microsoft !
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Again curious: if you were a tester of the "Advantage", why couldn't you keep it further, why did you go for a Dopod? If your brother is a senior engineer at HTC, why didn't he get you a X7500 since beta testers have already "final" hardware versions in their hands? Because the Dopod is "better"?
I'm also curious why you asked in a post how the quality of the Advantage is...if you were a beta tester, you should know it better than anybody else.
Sorry if my questions are too straight forward, I'm just trying to understand why your information is completely opposed to what I know.
Using search and such I've found lots of advice on different places to buy from, but I'm looking for some more general advice as it pertains to those of us that have to import to the United States.
1. As a US resident are there any hassles I should expect in ordering from Europe?
2. What is that VAT thing, and does it affect me? I've noticed that prices often state two amounts, one with and one without VAT.
3. I've seen people discuss getting unlocked versions, pay-as-you-go versions, contract versions and cancelling, etc. What options are available to those of us in the US? Do we have to buy an unlocked, contractless phone? Or is one of those other options involving buying a SIM, or cancelling a contract available?
4. Related to #3, I've seen mention of paying extra money to unlock the phone at some website. Will we have to do that even if we buy an "Unlocked" phone?
5. As far as warranties go, are we better off buying from a US based website or does that not matter?
6. Will our current GSM sim cards fit/work? (Yes, yes, I'm pretty much a newbie to GSM phones)
7. What's the meaning of life, the universe, and everything anyhow?
Thanks so much in advance for helping out someone new to the idea of importing a really cool phone! I've been debating between the iPhone and the Touch HD to replace my HTC BlueAngel, and I think the Touch HD is finally winning out!
sschrupp said:
Using search and such I've found lots of advice on different places to buy from, but I'm looking for some more general advice as it pertains to those of us that have to import to the United States.
1. As a US resident are there any hassles I should expect in ordering from Europe?
2. What is that VAT thing, and does it affect me? I've noticed that prices often state two amounts, one with and one without VAT.
3. I've seen people discuss getting unlocked versions, pay-as-you-go versions, contract versions and cancelling, etc. What options are available to those of us in the US? Do we have to buy an unlocked, contractless phone? Or is one of those other options involving buying a SIM, or cancelling a contract available?
4. Related to #3, I've seen mention of paying extra money to unlock the phone at some website. Will we have to do that even if we buy an "Unlocked" phone?
5. As far as warranties go, are we better off buying from a US based website or does that not matter?
6. Will our current GSM sim cards fit/work? (Yes, yes, I'm pretty much a newbie to GSM phones)
7. What's the meaning of life, the universe, and everything anyhow?
Thanks so much in advance for helping out someone new to the idea of importing a really cool phone! I've been debating between the iPhone and the Touch HD to replace my HTC BlueAngel, and I think the Touch HD is finally winning out!
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Just Google HTC Touch HD. You will find several US based companies selling the phone. Pick a reliable company. Anyone with a price of $300-$400 is probably a scam and want payment by western Union.
Most companies will offer a warranty program. The HTC warranty for the HD is not honored in US as far as I know, since it isn't released here. Any SIM card will work in an unlocked phone. No need for a contract is your already have one and can use
the SIM card.
I am curious about the VAT as well. No idea what that means.
VAT is a value added tax in Europe... If your located in the USA and order from Europe, then there is no VAT charge.
Hello,
i very want to buy a HTC Touch HD and would like to ask something.
My friend will travel to China in September and maybe i will order 1 , how much cost HTC Touch HD in China? Is it cheaper then in Europe? I have find some chinese sites where it cost 240 usd. Is it original? What you think?
Thank you
Regards
Coktail
Coktail said:
Hello,
i very want to buy a HTC Touch HD and would like to ask something.
My friend will travel to China in September and maybe i will order 1 , how much cost HTC Touch HD in China? Is it cheaper then in Europe? I have find some chinese sites where it cost 240 usd. Is it original? What you think?
Thank you
Regards
Coktail
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USD240 is absolutely fake.
here brand new HD in China is around 527USD. just for reference.
JohnQ is right, I bought mine for around $550 US in Shenzhen about a week ago, $240 is probably either used or a "shanzhai" phone (aka rip off look-a-like).
A note however, do look closely at what you are buying as there aren't any "official" HTC retailers here in China-- where HTC operates under it's Chinese subsidary, "Dopod". Most of the HTC phones in China are brought across the border either from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
I had the store clerk bring me five Touch HDs to try and I picked the best one and haggled with them until they threw in an extra battery.
If you'd rather be sure to get the real thing, I recommend you get it from Hong Kong; it's pretty cheap there too. In China, Dopod also has an identical device also called the Touch HD, however, the difference-- like between all Dopod phones and HTC phones-- is that the Dopod versions don't include Wifi and 3G. Gov't restrictions maybe? :S
scscc3 said:
JohnQ is right, I bought mine for around $550 US in Shenzhen about a week ago, $240 is probably either used or a "shanzhai" phone (aka rip off look-a-like).
A note however, do look closely at what you are buying as there aren't any "official" HTC retailers here in China-- where HTC operates under it's Chinese subsidary, "Dopod". Most of the HTC phones in China are brought across the border either from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
I had the store clerk bring me five Touch HDs to try and I picked the best one and haggled with them until they threw in an extra battery.
If you'd rather be sure to get the real thing, I recommend you get it from Hong Kong; it's pretty cheap there too. In China, Dopod also has an identical device also called the Touch HD, however, the difference-- like between all Dopod phones and HTC phones-- is that the Dopod versions don't include Wifi and 3G. Gov't restrictions maybe? :S
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HAHA , DOPOD announced HD early this year. you know how much they are selling in the beginning? RMB8288, As exactly the same with its model number T8288, DOPOD is crazy. DOPOD HD doesn't include WIFI/3G
Can get it with 3G and Wifi in China
It is possible to get the Touch HD in here in China with 3G and Wifi....If you buy a Dopod branded phone, it won't have either, but if you go to a mobile store and ask for "shui huo" you can get them. The "shui huo" versions of the phones are usually brought in from Europe then brought across the border (tax free). Don't let the sales staff trick you into paying more for them. These phones are cheaper than the Dopod branded ones and they are exactly the same phone (with more features enabled). As mentioned above, you also have to be aware of fakes, but if you take your time and check out multiple vendors, you should be ok....Always ask to try the phone before you buy it (ALWAYS).
Additionally, it will be extremely difficult to find one with a WWE rom. I usually come on here and flash a WWE rom as soon as I get my phone...Never had a problem...
China has some great deals and some great rip-offs...Just exercise some caution and you should be fine. Test the phone and make sure the Wifi and 3G options work and you should be fine.
newer high-end mobile phones are ALWAYS cheaper in the US/EU than in china. IN fact, everything that is "name brand" or high-end is more expensive in China. THe idea that China is cheaper than the west is just totally wrong these days, when I go back to the USA I stock up on clothes, electronics, etc. as the quality is certain, there are no spy programs or disabled features, and the price is much lower. If you want to buy cheap garbage, it will be cheaper in China, but for anything nice it is MUCH more expensive.
mlalahoi said:
newer high-end mobile phones are ALWAYS cheaper in the US/EU than in china. IN fact, everything that is "name brand" or high-end is more expensive in China. THe idea that China is cheaper than the west is just totally wrong these days, when I go back to the USA I stock up on clothes, electronics, etc. as the quality is certain, there are no spy programs or disabled features, and the price is much lower. If you want to buy cheap garbage, it will be cheaper in China, but for anything nice it is MUCH more expensive.
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That's not necessarily true...
HTC is a Taiwanese company and they export their products to places all over the world. One of them is Hong Kong, and as we all know, there are no taxes, customs, tariffs, or whatever on imported products there. Thus, electronics are generally cheaper in Hong Kong than they are elsewhere. Also, due to the proximity of Hong Kong and Taiwan, shipping is also cheaper than to the Americas for example, thus further reducing the end-user cost (however this may just be a little bit). Therefore, many of the "shui huo" HTC products brought into China from places like Hong Kong actually end up being cheaper (even more if you haggle and perhaps they'll throw in some goodies too!) than they are elsewhere.
Hope that sheds some light upon this issue.
So now now... don't go around making imperatives like "everything" all the time... hehe
This thread is really helpin me out.
Anyone can point me where to get the best price in Hongkong. I'm particularly looking for HTC Touch Pro CDMA.
Thanks before
mrayearth said:
This thread is really helpin me out.
Anyone can point me where to get the best price in Hongkong. I'm particularly looking for HTC Touch Pro CDMA.
Thanks before
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You could try Mong Kok/Wang Jiao Computer Centre; you can get some great deals if you haggle...
Check it out. It's near the Ladie's/Women's Market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mong_Kok
I see more people from asia owning a TMOUS HTC HD2.
Most of them are Security unlocked and are from the new Model ID: PB81120
Anyone can tell me how it's posible those countries have it, and also security unlocked??
Any one can help me getting one?
xmoo said:
I see more people from asia owning a TMOUS HTC HD2.
Most of them are Security unlocked and are from the new Model ID: PB81120
Anyone can tell me how it's posible those countries have it, and also security unlocked??
Any one can help me getting one?
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I purchased one from eBay. I'm sorry, what do you mean by security unlocked?
There are a lot of tmobile HD2s and unlocking code services on Ebay. The total cost + unlock code + shipping is even cheaper than buying asian/eu version outright.
haydendo said:
I purchased one from eBay. I'm sorry, what do you mean by security unlocked?
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http://twitpic.com/1l663d
I am also interested in buying TMOUS HD2 unlocked.
enyaj said:
I am also interested in buying TMOUS HD2 unlocked.
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I got a chineese guy on my msn. He's a member here @ XDA.
He knows a store where you can but them. 420 euros.
TMOUS Security and SIM and CID unlocked.
xmoo said:
I got a chineese guy on my msn. He's a member here @ XDA.
He knows a store where you can but them. 420 euros.
TMOUS Security and SIM and CID unlocked.
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I wonder how much would everything cost in philippine money
So member "bobsbbq" should not stop developing CHT/CHS Lost In Asia ROM because it has vast market there and LIA ROM is 100% compatible with US HD2.
A side note: US HD2 supports 3G band in Hong Kong.
enyaj said:
I wonder how much would everything cost in philippine money
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someone selling at sulit.com.ph for Php 28k
wha about the 3g in asia
Not really sure how they get those phones.. i bought one Tmobile HD2 for USD 500 (euro410)(23400 phil peso), In Malaysia.. Its distributed by an approved permit company... Its a grey market thing... They are not official HTC dristributers but they are legal because they pay the govt tax therefore the govt considers it as legal business... The same goes for nokia, samsung, sony etc phones... Thought some people prefer to go through the official nokia distributer because of the better service but the phones can cost above USD100 extra.
As mentioned, U.S. devices are sold cheaper on Ebay than they are in the local stores (in the Philippines, at least).
Everytime I visit the Philippines, I go to a shopping mall (Greenhills) and look at the phones (my cousins know some of the sellers). The used smartphones cost more than some phones here in the US (subsidized or not).
I even asked my cousins in the Philippines to buy me a belt holster for my TP2. When they asked the employee how much the phone itself cost, they were shocked it cost ~$900! And I bought my T-Mo TP2 (subsidized) for $350 (un-subsidized, the TP2 costs $500)!
Also, there are a lot of T-Mo HD2s on Ebay because many T-Mo customers wanted the HD2 for its hardware. Once they met WinMo OS, they wanted to sell it as fast as possible and get their old phones back.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-android-smartphone-unlocked-16gb-209554/
This thread is only for USA Galaxy s 2 fans. Guyz check this out. Unlocked and Unbranded. 50 In Stock.
Check the price in UK though
http://www.expansys.com/samsung-i9100-galaxy-s-ii-16gb-209114/
Coupon Code:
LSJUNE25
$25 Off $700+ Order
Expires: 6/30/2011
Thanks to daraj for the coupon
COUPON CODE:LS15250
Save $15 when you spend over $250 with Expansys with discount code LS15250. Offer valid through 6.30.11.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Open-Box-Samsun...Cell_Phones&hash=item1e643d4d8b#ht_1364wt_905
Expansys is selling refurbished phones in ebay.$675.
I bought the phone last week and i live in downtown chicago. After a week of experience with phone i would say this is the best ever. GPS is accurate in the downtown although there are few hiccups when across willis tower and trump tower which is pretty normal for a GPS. Wifi is great i never had any problems so far. Data connection on my At&t is much faster than my captivate(1.6MB/sec vs 2MB/sec). I tried testing it vs iphone 4, my galaxys2 showed significantly faster data speeds. Battery is ok but not the best. Call quality is something you would really like. I am really happy and proud to have phone a like this.
I hope i helped some of other fellow XDA members by starting this thread with coupon codes.
Mobilecityonline:
Description says with NFC check it with them before you buy.
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=27671 only 699$+3.95$.
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=28104
Guys. Lots of Accessories. Its 779$ though.
Somewhere around here someone posted a voucher code for 15 bucks off that works at expansys usa and you can also go through ebates for 3 percent off making it the lowest price I have run into for the phone. Ya gotta be willing to wait though, shipping is 4 days off and comes ground if you choose the free shiping.
2G: 850/900/1800/1900 Mhz (Quadband)
3G: 900/2100 (Dual-band)
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What's this about?
Why do they say it only supports 3G 900/2100
There's also no mention of warranty. I guess I have to assume it doesn't come with one?
They say they have 41 in stock on the US site... will it actually ship FROM the US or are they just shipping it from the UK? I assume it's from the US since the shipping options are 3-5 day GROUND which would be impossible from England =)
BTW coupon code EXP10 works out to a bit over 16 bucks off (since it's 10 GBP off), bit better than the $15 off code above.
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What's this about?
Why do they say it only supports 3G 900/2100
There's also no mention of warranty. I guess I have to assume it doesn't come with one?
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Warranty - no, it is a grey (unlicensed/unsanctioned) phone in the USA. None of the sellers will sell you an SGS2 currently with a US warranty. Some will come with UK warranty only. I do not know what ExpUSA is selling though.
Regarding the 3G bands, this forum thread on their site quotes a rep saying only 2 bands are supported, and later on in the year a model will come with support for the other 2 bands. There won't be a quad band 3G phone according to that person. Not sure how true it is.
Nevertheless the stock count went down from 41 to 34 in about half hour
ignign0kt said:
What's this about?
Why do they say it only supports 3G 900/2100
There's also no mention of warranty. I guess I have to assume it doesn't come with one?
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I have e-mailed them about the dual band thing and here is their reply:
The item is Quad Band HSDPA
Regards
Eric Smith
Technical Sales Executive
We Love: The HTC 7 Pro Smartphone
OFFICE 309 834 0325
FAX 309 661 1851
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I have e-mailed them about the dual band thing and here is there reply:
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I wonder why they would provide conflicting information then
So when would we be able to buy a GS2 in the US that comes with a warranty?
Is that only when the carriers start selling it?
Well Guyz, i don't think samsung makes separate phones for Expansys with a different radio. It would assume it is a Typo. Obviously this phone is from UK without NFC.
There is only one version of the phone for now. If I had to guess and this is only a guess having called them I think they were originally unable to switch it over to the 850/1900 bands back in the UK when they first got a handset to fiddle with. For that reason they are saying it is dual band only in case it turned out the 850/1900 bands were disabled or lacking the radios they would not be faced with a bunch of returns from the states.
these have to be just UK models shipped over here to the USA. which in that case, i would actually rather have the UK model if it has a warranty.
however it might be easier to return/exchange with expansys usa if something is defective with the phone initially. but it would be more difficult to return the device back to the UK for a swap. tough decision...
I would rather not take the risk of it not supporting AT&T bands.
Guess I'll wait...
Well I have one wandering my way from these guys so I can let you know on the AT&T. I'm not concerned though, there is only one model currently on sale anywhere and it is already shown to work on AT&T. Like Roger I believe these are UK phones expansys is selling on their usa site which would be the ones shown to work.
There is a thread in here with people reporting the phone is getting very fast 3G speeds on AT&T. Unless they are lying, and I am hard pressed to think why, something about that page is fishy.
Well guys I ordered from here when it was about 30 left in stock, per product page.
Already got a fedex tracking num, not picked up by fedex yet.
When I get mine I will test on AT&T and TMOB
If anyone gets theirs sooner - please also post your findings! thanks
Do you people not read other threads on this forum? These are already confirmed to work on AT&T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13466935&postcount=482
nomisunrider said:
Do you people not read other threads on this forum? These are already confirmed to work on AT&T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13466935&postcount=482
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The difference is that Expansys says it's only Dual-band for whatever reason
Meaning that the ones they're selling might be, however little the chance
nomisunrider said:
Do you people not read other threads on this forum? These are already confirmed to work on AT&T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13466935&postcount=482
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We people spend 20 hours a day reading this forum man. I have no life besides this forum
The concern with Expansys USA is their site and some of their support people claimed only 2 bands are supported for 3G. We do not know where they are importing from, could be limited models from some remote country (like Russia)
Also i have a question why is Expansys Uk selling it for 519 pounds which is almost equal to 852$ USA and Expansys USA selling it for 749$. Since the phone is coming from UK it has to be at least more than 852$. Can we assume this is not a UK phone.
Not really because that UK price includes VAT which is not required for the US. If you order from Handtec to the US it's actually cheaper than Expansys USA's site once you do the conversion at today's exchange rate.
I'm 99% certain the phone they have is the UK version. They're a UK based company, the specs are identical, and the only other version out there is the Korean one.
Anyway, anyone order this today and get a tracking number yet?
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Also i have a question why is Expansys Uk selling it for 519 pounds which is almost equal to 852$ USA and Expansys USA selling it for 749$. Since the phone is coming from UK it has to be at least more than 852$. Can we assume this is not a UK phone.
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The difference is that Expansys says it's only Dual-band for whatever reason
Meaning that the ones they're selling might be, however little the chance
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All this Expansys talk was covered in the thread I linked. They are wrong.