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purchased a softbank

I recently purcahsed a supposedly unlocked "new" softbank x01ht. I know it can't be new because to unlock it they would have to mess with it out of the box. I e-mailed the seller and he assured me it was unlocked and the OS was in english. I also found some other posts on this board questioning the legitimacy of these cheaper unlocked softbank phones. I'll give an update on whether its legit or not when it arrives on monday.
Just want to know if there are any American users of these softbank phones? Especially in California? Are there any issues with this phone on the t-mobile network? I am pretty new to the pocket pc/phone scene. I read through the FAQ on the wiki I just have a few more questions:
1. What exactly is the radioROM. Is it part of the main ROM or a separate ROM?
2. Is it safe to assume all HTC Hermes model phones are pretty much the same hardware wise and just differ in cosmetics? So if I load a HTC ROM on my softbank, it pretty much is a HTC phone in function?

daemonk, i tried my best to find out what are these devices' S/Ns, that seller didn't answer, would you tell us what is the S/N when it arrived?

sure. I bought mine on ebay btw. There was a thread previously on the same seller. The shipping tracking says its being shipped from Hong Kong.
Heres the auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=110067200160&rd=1&rd=1

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X_Farhad said:
daemonk, i tried my best to find out what are these devices' S/Ns, that seller didn't answer, would you tell us what is the S/N when it arrived?
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I purchased one from them also. The Serial number starts with HT638 and it came with a dopod rom installed and bootloader 1.04. It was shipped to the US from Hong Kong overnight.
I am returning it because it came with one dead pixel on the screen. They say that the return time takes 14 days and they gave me a return address in Bellevue, WA.
Hope this info helps anyone.

wow that makes me feel a lot better knowing its not a scam. I hope mine comes with no dead pixels.

I purchased one from them also. The Serial number starts with HT638
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thanks Freshster! that's good so there should be no alignment issues..

daemonk said:
sure. I bought mine on ebay btw. There was a thread previously on the same seller. The shipping tracking says its being shipped from Hong Kong.
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Yes there are quite a few Softbanks in HK. Street price selling just under US$500. Official Dopod selling almost US$800 in HK.

mgmchan said:
Yes there are quite a few Softbanks in HK. Street price selling just under US$500. Official Dopod selling almost US$800 in HK.
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softbank sells phone devices with their brand name only in japan. i presume any softbank devices sold their should be the ones sold through any illegal channels. no one can justify the $300 difference on the price tags if dodpod and sofbank sold there are both from the legal channels.

harryk1372 said:
softbank sells phone devices with their brand name only in japan. i presume any softbank devices sold their should be the ones sold through any illegal channels. no one can justify the $300 difference on the price tags if dodpod and sofbank sold there are both from the legal channels.
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They're not "illegal". We call them parallel import. But then for the $300 difference, we don't have any customer service and we're on our own if the Softbank goes silly. See, if they can make a profit at $500, then the street retail in Japan should be around $400. Good deal for such a device!

mgmchan said:
They're not "illegal". We call them parallel import. But then for the $300 difference, we don't have any customer service and we're on our own if the Softbank goes silly. See, if they can make a profit at $500, then the street retail in Japan should be around $400. Good deal for such a device!
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whatever you name it, they are not shipped there through the proper softbank channel.
there are those in japan buying them from softbank with the contract and personally exporting them unused to elsewhere after canceling the contract, but that will not work anymore with the ones shipped with the new rom after Dec 2 as nobody so far including pof has been able to unlock it.
if any unlocked ones are still flowing through from elsewhere, it could be from factory level and that is definitely through any illegal channels as htc should ristric that.

daemonk said:
wow that makes me feel a lot better knowing its not a scam. I hope mine comes with no dead pixels.
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Let me know when yours arrives. I am curious about a couple things...
1. Does it have any bad pixels?
2. Does it have a Dopod rom and 1.04 bootloader?
I hope my replacement does not come with the 1.09 bootloader.
Since these come unlocked with the Dopod rom installed, then I would guess that I should be ok with my replacement when it comes.

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I hope my replacement does not come with the 1.09 bootloader.
Since these come unlocked with the Dopod rom installed, then I would guess that I should be ok with my replacement when it comes.
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i'm surprised if it comes with the bootloader 1.09. the bootloader 1.09 checks the cid and it won't let you flash the dopod rom on softbank device. you cannot unlock softbank x01ht that comes with the new rom with the bootloader 1.09. if it comes unlocked with the dopod rom, the bootloader cannot be 1.09.

alright just got my softbank phone in. From the looks of it, everything looks legit. I want to charge it fully before I turn it on so I'll post on the ROM version and stuff tomorrow. The manual is in Japanese as I expected, so how long do I need to charge this thing for the first time?
The S/N is HTC638XXX btw.

okay so mine is basically just like Freshter's. It has the dopod rom and 1.06 bootloader. No dead pixels .
So I guess the guy is legit? I havn't really had enough time to play around with it to notice anything wrong so I may not be the best authority on it.
The guy I bought it from on ebay is selling 5 more apparently.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-SoftBank-X0...9276466QQihZ001QQcategoryZ64355QQcmdZViewItem

daemonk said:
okay so mine is basically just like Freshter's. It has the dopod rom and 1.06 bootloader. No dead pixels .
So I guess the guy is legit? I havn't really had enough time to play around with it to notice anything wrong so I may not be the best authority on it.
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Thanks for the update.
It seems that yours came with bootloader 1.06 while mine came with 1.04.
I just sent mine back today for replacement because of the dead pixel.
The seller has been very responsive to me, but it is a shame that I have to wait 14 days or more to get a new one.
I'll let you all know the specs of my new one when it comes in.
Thanks again.

Finally received my replacement!
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I'll let you all know the specs of my new one when it comes in.
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Well, I finally received my replacement X01HT yesterday after a month of waiting.
As promised, here are the specs:
X01HT (HERM200) with Dopod ROM
Bootloader: 1.04
ROM Version: 1.23.707.4
ROM Date: 07/21/06
Radio Version: 1.14.00.10
Protocol version: 32.50.7018.00H
One other thing that I noticed was that the first one I received (and returned) had the part number 99HCE045-00 XT01.
This new one I received yesterday has the part number 99HCE045-00 XT02.
Does anyone know what the difference is between XT01 and XT02?
Edit: Also wanted to mention that the new one has a serial number starting with HT647...

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daemonk said:
okay so mine is basically just like Freshter's. It has the dopod rom and 1.06 bootloader. No dead pixels .
So I guess the guy is legit? I havn't really had enough time to play around with it to notice anything wrong so I may not be the best authority on it.
The guy I bought it from on ebay is selling 5 more apparently.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-SoftBank-X0...9276466QQihZ001QQcategoryZ64355QQcmdZViewItem
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Hi,
I read your posts about how you purchased the Softbank X01HT and i was wondering if you are satisfied with it, and if you recommend that i buy one from the same guy you did.
Ebay - Item number: 110111081121
9 Available
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-SoftBank-X0...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I am on the virge of making the purchase, can you tell me if you have had any problems at all.
Also, where you ever able to update the ROM????
Any answers can be a great help.

I buy one from pcmonde on amazon and work very well.
I Update it w the official rom wm6 on spanish for the TyTN from htc.
Works very sweet!

harryk1372 said:
whatever you name it, they are not shipped there through the proper softbank channel.
there are those in japan buying them from softbank with the contract and personally exporting them unused to elsewhere after canceling the contract, but that will not work anymore with the ones shipped with the new rom after Dec 2 as nobody so far including pof has been able to unlock it.
if any unlocked ones are still flowing through from elsewhere, it could be from factory level and that is definitely through any illegal channels as htc should ristric that.
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I don't understand your logic. Unless it has been "stolen", it is as legal as it can be.

i'm new to the xda scene but i am awaiting a recently ordered softbank x01ht that a 3rd party rogers dealer has ordered for me from an authorized dealer in vancouver. this comes with waranty and all for about $570. it comes locked and in japanese as i was told by the person introducing me to person ordering.

2 Leo models (T8383 vs T8585) ?

hello!
i am ready to order my hd2 (Greece is where i am located.)
So, after searching some greek eshops,i seem to find 2 different versions of the hd2 and i am confused.
There seems to exist a T8383 model and a T8585 one.What's this?Anyone knows?
http://www.skroutz.gr/s/94970/HTC-HD2.html

T8585 is the HD2 that I have.
The other could be the test phone, or a other branded phone (T-mobile etc.)

Linuxmaniac said:
hello!
i am ready to order my hd2 (Greece is where i am located.)
So, after searching some greek eshops,i seem to find 2 different versions of the hd2 and i am confused.
There seems to exist a T8383 model and a T8585 one.What's this?Anyone knows?
http://www.skroutz.gr/s/94970/HTC-HD2.html
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T8585 - HTC HD2 (not "Touch" any more, also known as Leo).
T8383 - WTF???
In theory it could be cut down version. But apart from Czech republic and Greece no one seems to have that sort of number. Could it be something like HTC made in Greece?

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I am concerned.
I already own a touch diamond greek.The company that alters the software (translation etc) is ace hellas i know.This is not the case in this T8383 model.I was about to buy it but then i thought i would post here the question.It is 50 euros cheaper than the eshops selling the T8585 and also the T8585 is not expected here in nothing less than about 20days.So could this be a test model or something like you mentioned before?
Perhaps when it was know as Touch Pro Three?
Sould i avoid it you think and wait for the T8585 model?

how much does the hd2 costs in Greece? In cyprus is estimated 685 euros!! i think i will be buying mine from Germany in December...
btw both my Polaris and HD where also customized by ACE Hellas and they also seemed to be more expensive than in any of the other shops, I just fell for the salesman trick that only the ones customised by ACE Hellas are under HTC's warranty, which seems to be bull****!

sorry i missed your link on the first post... they are even more expensive in Greece!!! why dont you buy from abroad?

what about expansys??? http://www.expansys.com.gr/d.aspx?i=188868
its an english version of it

About 700 euros here and big stores like www.plaisio.gr say it will be available late november to december,and the T8383 model costs 650 and is already available. i will probably wait

Linuxmaniac said:
About 700 euros here and big stores like www.plaisio.gr say it will be available late november to december,and the T8383 model costs 650 and is already available. i will probably wait
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i don't believe there would be 2 versions of the same phone, unless branded like vodafone or something.... or it could be that the seller did not read his notes very well... i mean 3 can easily be misunderstood to 5!

Maybe the T8383 model is the one with dots on the screen

No it's not a branded version,that's what i tried to explain before.I have to buy from a greek eshop because vodafone gr gives me some money i don't know the word in english,money discount for buying a new phone and shops like expansys.com or other do not cooperate on this with vodafone gr the said
i am beginning to think it's a first version of the phone probably,though it could be wrong spelled,a number "5" turned to "3".
Thanks anyway,i will wait and pay 50 euros more,i will give so much money,i have to be sure not to buy a beta phone version or anything

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Maybe the T8383 model is the one with dots on the screen
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Nope, I've got a T8585, and it's got dots (Well, actually they're lines in a diagonal grid pattern with dots at the places where the lines cross).
But yeah, maybe the T8383 is one of the prototype (Those that said Pro.Three) or pre-retail (The ones without the pouch, MicroSD card, etc.) models, or just a random name for a model that doesn't differ at all.

Linuxmaniac said:
No it's not a branded version,that's what i tried to explain before.I have to buy from a greek eshop because vodafone gr gives me some money i don't know the word in english,money discount for buying a new phone and shops like expansys.com or other do not cooperate on this with vodafone gr the said
i am beginning to think it's a first version of the phone probably,though it could be wrong spelled,a number "5" turned to "3".
Thanks anyway,i will wait and pay 50 euros more,i will give so much money,i have to be sure not to buy a beta phone version or anything
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legally they shouldnt sell you a beta phone and get away with it, so dont worry

*I believe* the difference is only down to the radio frequencies that 3G HSDPA data runs on.
One of them probably does 900/2100, the other maybe 850/2100.

i called the company today (one of the companies that sells the T8383 model).
They said that tha package was the full one,including an sdcard etc.
When i told them about the T8585 being the official one mentioned in the site,they replied that perhaps there is a type error.Could someone made this error and then 2 or 3 sites just copied it wrong?
The description in all these sites selling the T8383 is the same (copy-paste)
So should i just buy it?
I can hardly wait another one for the T8585 sites.
I wll also try to contact htc

how to find that number on the phone?

Linuxmaniac, unless you got a serial number from one of the T8383 models, don't bother contact HTC.
I already have, and they need a serial number in order to verify if the device is real or fake. they didn't answer the most important question - if there's a T8383, or not.

I contacted htc.They replied and said that there is only a T8585 model and i should only buy from original retail suppliers of htc in greece.
The site is not included in this list for Greece.
Also,the site after i called them changed now the model name to T8585 and put up the price 20 euros.
Still its 30 euros less than other shops in Greece and most important for me it is available.
So is this 30 euros just some sort of tariff for the buying from the "original" supplier?
Maybe this was all just a type error?
Some shops could lose clients easily afterall.
I think will order mine from this shop and then send the serial number to htc.
Do you agree?

froztii said:
how to find that number on the phone?
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Settings----> About phone------> Phone Identity

Linuxmaniac said:
I think will order mine from this shop and then send the serial number to htc.
Do you agree?
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Why not asking the shop to provide you a serial from one of their devices, before you're actually buying it?...

Where to buy unlocked GSM Hero?

Other than ebay, where can I get an unlocked hero? I know there's a site called 'puremobile' or 'purephones' or something... there was a site that I was on yesterday that had unlocked Hero's for $520 which is a perfect price but I can't seem to remember where that was.

LOL they have them on ebay for around 400 or even less if your lucky.

Mind pasting some links? Because I'm looking on EBay and all I see is $550 and up right now.

Have you tried Handtec? i bought my HD from there, dunno if they have a US Site tho

Hmm... I'm not sure if they will ship to the states... Any others?

Puremobile - Canadian retailer
Negri Electronics - I got mine from here. It was already unlocked (the Telus version), so I didn't have to pony up for an unlock code. Ships from Wisconsin

i Would check out play.com or similar sites, they sell unlocked (simfree) handsets , i would avoid ebay or any sites like that

Hello just registered
I am exactly looking for same thing.Please someone help me I will buy from US.
What i came accross was ;
http://www.integrontech.com/HTC-Hero-Unlocked-QuadBand-White-p/htc-hero-wht.htm
499 bucks.
But is this site safe ? And i read something like this about them ? But i guess this problem can be solved with ROM update right ?
DO NOT BUY FORM THIS COMPANY. i bought a htc hero, it came in quickly but could only be set up in enlish with three asian countries, no possiblities to be set up in USA or any other country. Once you set up english in either Malaysian, Cambodia, or Indonesia then you get english key board but still has asian symbols so you don't to use full effect of keypad. Also it does not have andriod market or any upgrade programs. i tried to call the company, no answer, then i sent them 8 yes 8 emails asking them to contact me and not one single reply so now my return deadline has passed. i contacted better business beruea and if i don't hear from them soon i will contact them via my brother who lucky for me works FBI in the southern florida district and has police friends to get something moving on this scam. they robbed me of 499.00 dollars and i am not happy. DO NOT BUY FROM THIS COMPANY AND AMAZON SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO USE THEM.
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http://www.gosale.com/store-info.php/32714/integron-technologies-inc-

I'm looking for a good company to purchase from that ships to the US. Any other options guys? PureMobile is out of stock, so no luck there.

US Supplier
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=184575
Expansys in the UK are a top notch company.

www.importgsm.com is another got mine from them unlocked.

Mod edit: eBay link removed for breach of the forum rules.

Why the price difference? (US vs AU)

So the US T-Mobile branded phone is for all intents and purposes, a better phone going by the specs, ROM & RAM upgrade.
So why is T-Mobile offering $450 no contract, and it's around $800-$900 to import one from Australia? I mean I understand taxes duties and the likes, and exchange rates, but 1 U.S. dollar = 1.09649123 Australian dollars So there shouldn't be THAT much of a difference...

Supply and demand my friend. Although the ones that come from AU being the Telstra brand works on the ATT 3G bands.

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Supply and demand my friend. Although the ones that come from AU being the Telstra brand works on the ATT 3G bands.
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Yes I know that the telstra version works with AT&T, which is why I'm curious of the price difference.
HD2 T-Mobile US: $450 USD no contract
HD2 Telstra: $755.88 USD ($829.00 AUD) no contract
HD2 UK: $692.04 USD (£464.99) no contract
My point is that the T-Mo phone is a better phone, spec wise compared to the Telstra one.
Why the $200+ price difference for less of a phone?

Don't forget that the poor Australians usually pay ANY electronic device / technical stuff a good deal more than everybody else in the first place, all the stuff with importing goods to a remote country for few people and transporting them all across a huge country... that would be the difference between the UK and AUS price you listed.
Then to the difference between UK and US, I'd put it down to TMO subsidizing it and selling with little or no profit for marketing reasons. Even without contract the phones are locked to their network, so they make sure they'll recover costs from service. In Europe ours aren't locked, so we can buy one and use it anywhere.

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So the US T-Mobile branded phone is for all intents and purposes, a better phone going by the specs, ROM & RAM upgrade.
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the only difference is the pre loaded software and the rom size. the ram is already proven to be the same 576

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kilrah said:
Don't forget that the poor Australians usually pay ANY electronic device / technical stuff a good deal more than everybody else in the first place, all the stuff with importing goods to a remote country for few people and transporting them all across a huge country... that would be the difference between the UK and AUS price you listed.
Then to the difference between UK and US, I'd put it down to TMO subsidizing it and selling with little or no profit for marketing reasons. Even without contract the phones are locked to their network, so they make sure they'll recover costs from service. In Europe ours aren't locked, so we can buy one and use it anywhere.
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Things aren't really that expensive down here!
1) agree that T-mobile is probably still subsidising the device. The price of the Telstra version is completely unlocked and could be used on other networks.
2) the telstra price includes all taxes and charges
3) the exchange rate (USD-AUD) has varied quite a bit and was down to .77 (now at .91) at some stage in the last 6 months. Given that companies like HTC set their sales strategies months out - they might have used at lower exchange rates.
Still - I bought mine off ebay for $700 AUD. I hate telstra

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Yes I know that the telstra version works with AT&T, which is why I'm curious of the price difference.
HD2 T-Mobile US: $450 USD no contract
HD2 Telstra: $755.88 USD ($829.00 AUD) no contract
HD2 UK: $692.04 USD (£464.99) no contract
My point is that the T-Mo phone is a better phone, spec wise compared to the Telstra one.
Why the $200+ price difference for less of a phone?
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Think about it for a moment. Supply and demand. Let it sink in...
TmoUS has an HD2. AT&T and a few other Canadian carriers dont. So there's the potential of XX million of users on all of those carriers who will not get the HD2. With that in mind, the DEMAND for the HD2 is very high (as it was across Europe and Asia) and being that this is a very expensive smartphone, HTC can't churn them out like Nokia with all their dumbphones, resulting in a very low SUPPLY.
Just think of the next time you drive your car and you're low on gas. All the gas stations around you are out of gas themselves except for one. Unfortunately, this one gas station understands that you have no other alternative except coming here for gas, so it is charging $5/gal compare to $2/gal of the other ones. If you're unwilling to walk 10mi to your workplace, you'd fork over the money to fill up with $5/gal.
Now about the hardware, noone here cares about TmoUS having an extra 512MB of ROM when most people install it on their 16GB sd card anyway. So hardware is a moot point.

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My point is that the T-Mo phone is a better phone, spec wise compared to the Telstra one.
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But it isn't a better phone if you consider the 3G bands it supports.
850/2100 is dynamite.
900/2100 is good.
1700/2100 is basically useless.

tmob has a price of 450
htc has a price of 550 for the same ??
http://www.shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=36998

Samsung Omnia 7 from USA to India?

Hey people,
An uncle is coming down from US to India (my current country) and I plan to buy the Omnia 7.
Should I ask him to buy one for me...but again, will I have to unlock it???
Does it come carrier specific like the iPhone?
Do I have to "Unlock" it?
Or should I just ask him to get the phone and pop in my SIM card from India?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

I'm pretty sure the Omnia 7 isn't sold in the US. They have the Focus instead.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, it's not sold in the US or Canada. But he can order one from ExpanSys (who gets them from Europe).
I picked a few up from Canada before I headed to Saudi Arabia. Work like a charm. Just gotta remember there's tax, warranty, customs, shipping. Not much profit made for reselling them Manuals also came in french, but that's not a big deal if you know how to use these things.

bmazloum said:
Yes, it's not sold in the US or Canada. But he can order one from ExpanSys (who gets them from Europe).
I picked a few up from Canada before I headed to Saudi Arabia. Work like a charm. Just gotta remember there's tax, warranty, customs, shipping. Not much profit made for reselling them Manuals also came in french, but that's not a big deal if you know how to use these things.
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Hey thanx a lot guys for ur replie...its a lil surprising that teh Omnia isnt in the US...
Peew971 said:
I'm pretty sure the Omnia 7 isn't sold in the US. They have the Focus instead.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Anywyas what about Dubai? The main Proper City???Even on the website, nothing clearly is mentioned...when where etc??
But thanx! And do let me know about Dubai...

Hello...
As Peew971 said: Omnia 7 isn't sold in USA by default, and ExpanSys actually have a very high prices, I got mine from Australia, factory unlocked and shipped to Libya (cost me about 840$ at that time, with Screen Protector + Case + Shipping Insurance), I've checked the website now (becextech.com.au) and it is priced at 699 AUD$ (= 687 US$) without shipping costs.
I hope I've helped you...

ahmadmr said:
Hello...
As Peew971 said: Omnia 7 isn't sold in USA by default, and ExpanSys actually have a very high prices, I got mine from Australia, factory unlocked and shipped to Libya (cost me about 840$ at that time, with Screen Protector + Case + Shipping Insurance), I've checked the website now (becextech.com.au) and it is priced at 699 AUD$ (= 687 US$) without shipping costs.
I hope I've helped you...
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Hey ahmadmr,
Thanx for your reply...I am not very confident of ordering a phone from somewhere else..especially from another country..there is a similar website here in India..I contacted them and they asked me to wait for a couple of days..so lets see, but thanx again..if it is available in the Middle East (Dubai) I can ask a friend to get it too...

t mobile germany is probably your best bet. ive seen a number of posts saying the phone is unlocked & i think its the 16Gb version too.

robnewton1 said:
t mobile germany is probably your best bet. ive seen a number of posts saying the phone is unlocked & i think its the 16Gb version too.
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Oh ok...Germany..yea...makes sense...Will surely try now...a couple of friends keep going there...