Database Users

purchased a softbank

I recently purcahsed a supposedly unlocked "new" softbank x01ht. I know it can't be new because to unlock it they would have to mess with it out of the box. I e-mailed the seller and he assured me it was unlocked and the OS was in english. I also found some other posts on this board questioning the legitimacy of these cheaper unlocked softbank phones. I'll give an update on whether its legit or not when it arrives on monday.
Just want to know if there are any American users of these softbank phones? Especially in California? Are there any issues with this phone on the t-mobile network? I am pretty new to the pocket pc/phone scene. I read through the FAQ on the wiki I just have a few more questions:
1. What exactly is the radioROM. Is it part of the main ROM or a separate ROM?
2. Is it safe to assume all HTC Hermes model phones are pretty much the same hardware wise and just differ in cosmetics? So if I load a HTC ROM on my softbank, it pretty much is a HTC phone in function?

daemonk, i tried my best to find out what are these devices' S/Ns, that seller didn't answer, would you tell us what is the S/N when it arrived?

sure. I bought mine on ebay btw. There was a thread previously on the same seller. The shipping tracking says its being shipped from Hong Kong.
Heres the auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=110067200160&rd=1&rd=1

Serial...
X_Farhad said:
daemonk, i tried my best to find out what are these devices' S/Ns, that seller didn't answer, would you tell us what is the S/N when it arrived?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I purchased one from them also. The Serial number starts with HT638 and it came with a dopod rom installed and bootloader 1.04. It was shipped to the US from Hong Kong overnight.
I am returning it because it came with one dead pixel on the screen. They say that the return time takes 14 days and they gave me a return address in Bellevue, WA.
Hope this info helps anyone.

wow that makes me feel a lot better knowing its not a scam. I hope mine comes with no dead pixels.

I purchased one from them also. The Serial number starts with HT638
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks Freshster! that's good so there should be no alignment issues..

daemonk said:
sure. I bought mine on ebay btw. There was a thread previously on the same seller. The shipping tracking says its being shipped from Hong Kong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes there are quite a few Softbanks in HK. Street price selling just under US$500. Official Dopod selling almost US$800 in HK.

mgmchan said:
Yes there are quite a few Softbanks in HK. Street price selling just under US$500. Official Dopod selling almost US$800 in HK.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
softbank sells phone devices with their brand name only in japan. i presume any softbank devices sold their should be the ones sold through any illegal channels. no one can justify the $300 difference on the price tags if dodpod and sofbank sold there are both from the legal channels.

harryk1372 said:
softbank sells phone devices with their brand name only in japan. i presume any softbank devices sold their should be the ones sold through any illegal channels. no one can justify the $300 difference on the price tags if dodpod and sofbank sold there are both from the legal channels.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They're not "illegal". We call them parallel import. But then for the $300 difference, we don't have any customer service and we're on our own if the Softbank goes silly. See, if they can make a profit at $500, then the street retail in Japan should be around $400. Good deal for such a device!

mgmchan said:
They're not "illegal". We call them parallel import. But then for the $300 difference, we don't have any customer service and we're on our own if the Softbank goes silly. See, if they can make a profit at $500, then the street retail in Japan should be around $400. Good deal for such a device!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
whatever you name it, they are not shipped there through the proper softbank channel.
there are those in japan buying them from softbank with the contract and personally exporting them unused to elsewhere after canceling the contract, but that will not work anymore with the ones shipped with the new rom after Dec 2 as nobody so far including pof has been able to unlock it.
if any unlocked ones are still flowing through from elsewhere, it could be from factory level and that is definitely through any illegal channels as htc should ristric that.

daemonk said:
wow that makes me feel a lot better knowing its not a scam. I hope mine comes with no dead pixels.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let me know when yours arrives. I am curious about a couple things...
1. Does it have any bad pixels?
2. Does it have a Dopod rom and 1.04 bootloader?
I hope my replacement does not come with the 1.09 bootloader.
Since these come unlocked with the Dopod rom installed, then I would guess that I should be ok with my replacement when it comes.

Freshster said:
I hope my replacement does not come with the 1.09 bootloader.
Since these come unlocked with the Dopod rom installed, then I would guess that I should be ok with my replacement when it comes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i'm surprised if it comes with the bootloader 1.09. the bootloader 1.09 checks the cid and it won't let you flash the dopod rom on softbank device. you cannot unlock softbank x01ht that comes with the new rom with the bootloader 1.09. if it comes unlocked with the dopod rom, the bootloader cannot be 1.09.

alright just got my softbank phone in. From the looks of it, everything looks legit. I want to charge it fully before I turn it on so I'll post on the ROM version and stuff tomorrow. The manual is in Japanese as I expected, so how long do I need to charge this thing for the first time?
The S/N is HTC638XXX btw.

okay so mine is basically just like Freshter's. It has the dopod rom and 1.06 bootloader. No dead pixels .
So I guess the guy is legit? I havn't really had enough time to play around with it to notice anything wrong so I may not be the best authority on it.
The guy I bought it from on ebay is selling 5 more apparently.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-SoftBank-X0...9276466QQihZ001QQcategoryZ64355QQcmdZViewItem

daemonk said:
okay so mine is basically just like Freshter's. It has the dopod rom and 1.06 bootloader. No dead pixels .
So I guess the guy is legit? I havn't really had enough time to play around with it to notice anything wrong so I may not be the best authority on it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the update.
It seems that yours came with bootloader 1.06 while mine came with 1.04.
I just sent mine back today for replacement because of the dead pixel.
The seller has been very responsive to me, but it is a shame that I have to wait 14 days or more to get a new one.
I'll let you all know the specs of my new one when it comes in.
Thanks again.

Finally received my replacement!
Freshster said:
I'll let you all know the specs of my new one when it comes in.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I finally received my replacement X01HT yesterday after a month of waiting.
As promised, here are the specs:
X01HT (HERM200) with Dopod ROM
Bootloader: 1.04
ROM Version: 1.23.707.4
ROM Date: 07/21/06
Radio Version: 1.14.00.10
Protocol version: 32.50.7018.00H
One other thing that I noticed was that the first one I received (and returned) had the part number 99HCE045-00 XT01.
This new one I received yesterday has the part number 99HCE045-00 XT02.
Does anyone know what the difference is between XT01 and XT02?
Edit: Also wanted to mention that the new one has a serial number starting with HT647...

Can you help ?
daemonk said:
okay so mine is basically just like Freshter's. It has the dopod rom and 1.06 bootloader. No dead pixels .
So I guess the guy is legit? I havn't really had enough time to play around with it to notice anything wrong so I may not be the best authority on it.
The guy I bought it from on ebay is selling 5 more apparently.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-SoftBank-X0...9276466QQihZ001QQcategoryZ64355QQcmdZViewItem
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
I read your posts about how you purchased the Softbank X01HT and i was wondering if you are satisfied with it, and if you recommend that i buy one from the same guy you did.
Ebay - Item number: 110111081121
9 Available
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-SoftBank-X0...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I am on the virge of making the purchase, can you tell me if you have had any problems at all.
Also, where you ever able to update the ROM????
Any answers can be a great help.

I buy one from pcmonde on amazon and work very well.
I Update it w the official rom wm6 on spanish for the TyTN from htc.
Works very sweet!

harryk1372 said:
whatever you name it, they are not shipped there through the proper softbank channel.
there are those in japan buying them from softbank with the contract and personally exporting them unused to elsewhere after canceling the contract, but that will not work anymore with the ones shipped with the new rom after Dec 2 as nobody so far including pof has been able to unlock it.
if any unlocked ones are still flowing through from elsewhere, it could be from factory level and that is definitely through any illegal channels as htc should ristric that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't understand your logic. Unless it has been "stolen", it is as legal as it can be.

i'm new to the xda scene but i am awaiting a recently ordered softbank x01ht that a 3rd party rogers dealer has ordered for me from an authorized dealer in vancouver. this comes with waranty and all for about $570. it comes locked and in japanese as i was told by the person introducing me to person ordering.

HTC TOUCH HD in China?!

Hello,
i very want to buy a HTC Touch HD and would like to ask something.
My friend will travel to China in September and maybe i will order 1 , how much cost HTC Touch HD in China? Is it cheaper then in Europe? I have find some chinese sites where it cost 240 usd. Is it original? What you think?
Thank you
Regards
Coktail

Coktail said:
Hello,
i very want to buy a HTC Touch HD and would like to ask something.
My friend will travel to China in September and maybe i will order 1 , how much cost HTC Touch HD in China? Is it cheaper then in Europe? I have find some chinese sites where it cost 240 usd. Is it original? What you think?
Thank you
Regards
Coktail
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
USD240 is absolutely fake.
here brand new HD in China is around 527USD. just for reference.

JohnQ is right, I bought mine for around $550 US in Shenzhen about a week ago, $240 is probably either used or a "shanzhai" phone (aka rip off look-a-like).
A note however, do look closely at what you are buying as there aren't any "official" HTC retailers here in China-- where HTC operates under it's Chinese subsidary, "Dopod". Most of the HTC phones in China are brought across the border either from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
I had the store clerk bring me five Touch HDs to try and I picked the best one and haggled with them until they threw in an extra battery.
If you'd rather be sure to get the real thing, I recommend you get it from Hong Kong; it's pretty cheap there too. In China, Dopod also has an identical device also called the Touch HD, however, the difference-- like between all Dopod phones and HTC phones-- is that the Dopod versions don't include Wifi and 3G. Gov't restrictions maybe? :S

scscc3 said:
JohnQ is right, I bought mine for around $550 US in Shenzhen about a week ago, $240 is probably either used or a "shanzhai" phone (aka rip off look-a-like).
A note however, do look closely at what you are buying as there aren't any "official" HTC retailers here in China-- where HTC operates under it's Chinese subsidary, "Dopod". Most of the HTC phones in China are brought across the border either from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
I had the store clerk bring me five Touch HDs to try and I picked the best one and haggled with them until they threw in an extra battery.
If you'd rather be sure to get the real thing, I recommend you get it from Hong Kong; it's pretty cheap there too. In China, Dopod also has an identical device also called the Touch HD, however, the difference-- like between all Dopod phones and HTC phones-- is that the Dopod versions don't include Wifi and 3G. Gov't restrictions maybe? :S
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HAHA , DOPOD announced HD early this year. you know how much they are selling in the beginning? RMB8288, As exactly the same with its model number T8288, DOPOD is crazy. DOPOD HD doesn't include WIFI/3G

Can get it with 3G and Wifi in China
It is possible to get the Touch HD in here in China with 3G and Wifi....If you buy a Dopod branded phone, it won't have either, but if you go to a mobile store and ask for "shui huo" you can get them. The "shui huo" versions of the phones are usually brought in from Europe then brought across the border (tax free). Don't let the sales staff trick you into paying more for them. These phones are cheaper than the Dopod branded ones and they are exactly the same phone (with more features enabled). As mentioned above, you also have to be aware of fakes, but if you take your time and check out multiple vendors, you should be ok....Always ask to try the phone before you buy it (ALWAYS).
Additionally, it will be extremely difficult to find one with a WWE rom. I usually come on here and flash a WWE rom as soon as I get my phone...Never had a problem...
China has some great deals and some great rip-offs...Just exercise some caution and you should be fine. Test the phone and make sure the Wifi and 3G options work and you should be fine.

newer high-end mobile phones are ALWAYS cheaper in the US/EU than in china. IN fact, everything that is "name brand" or high-end is more expensive in China. THe idea that China is cheaper than the west is just totally wrong these days, when I go back to the USA I stock up on clothes, electronics, etc. as the quality is certain, there are no spy programs or disabled features, and the price is much lower. If you want to buy cheap garbage, it will be cheaper in China, but for anything nice it is MUCH more expensive.

mlalahoi said:
newer high-end mobile phones are ALWAYS cheaper in the US/EU than in china. IN fact, everything that is "name brand" or high-end is more expensive in China. THe idea that China is cheaper than the west is just totally wrong these days, when I go back to the USA I stock up on clothes, electronics, etc. as the quality is certain, there are no spy programs or disabled features, and the price is much lower. If you want to buy cheap garbage, it will be cheaper in China, but for anything nice it is MUCH more expensive.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not necessarily true...
HTC is a Taiwanese company and they export their products to places all over the world. One of them is Hong Kong, and as we all know, there are no taxes, customs, tariffs, or whatever on imported products there. Thus, electronics are generally cheaper in Hong Kong than they are elsewhere. Also, due to the proximity of Hong Kong and Taiwan, shipping is also cheaper than to the Americas for example, thus further reducing the end-user cost (however this may just be a little bit). Therefore, many of the "shui huo" HTC products brought into China from places like Hong Kong actually end up being cheaper (even more if you haggle and perhaps they'll throw in some goodies too!) than they are elsewhere.
Hope that sheds some light upon this issue.
So now now... don't go around making imperatives like "everything" all the time... hehe

This thread is really helpin me out.
Anyone can point me where to get the best price in Hongkong. I'm particularly looking for HTC Touch Pro CDMA.
Thanks before

mrayearth said:
This thread is really helpin me out.
Anyone can point me where to get the best price in Hongkong. I'm particularly looking for HTC Touch Pro CDMA.
Thanks before
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could try Mong Kok/Wang Jiao Computer Centre; you can get some great deals if you haggle...
Check it out. It's near the Ladie's/Women's Market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mong_Kok

Where to buy unlocked GSM Hero?

Other than ebay, where can I get an unlocked hero? I know there's a site called 'puremobile' or 'purephones' or something... there was a site that I was on yesterday that had unlocked Hero's for $520 which is a perfect price but I can't seem to remember where that was.

LOL they have them on ebay for around 400 or even less if your lucky.

Mind pasting some links? Because I'm looking on EBay and all I see is $550 and up right now.

Have you tried Handtec? i bought my HD from there, dunno if they have a US Site tho

Hmm... I'm not sure if they will ship to the states... Any others?

Puremobile - Canadian retailer
Negri Electronics - I got mine from here. It was already unlocked (the Telus version), so I didn't have to pony up for an unlock code. Ships from Wisconsin

i Would check out play.com or similar sites, they sell unlocked (simfree) handsets , i would avoid ebay or any sites like that

Hello just registered
I am exactly looking for same thing.Please someone help me I will buy from US.
What i came accross was ;
http://www.integrontech.com/HTC-Hero-Unlocked-QuadBand-White-p/htc-hero-wht.htm
499 bucks.
But is this site safe ? And i read something like this about them ? But i guess this problem can be solved with ROM update right ?
DO NOT BUY FORM THIS COMPANY. i bought a htc hero, it came in quickly but could only be set up in enlish with three asian countries, no possiblities to be set up in USA or any other country. Once you set up english in either Malaysian, Cambodia, or Indonesia then you get english key board but still has asian symbols so you don't to use full effect of keypad. Also it does not have andriod market or any upgrade programs. i tried to call the company, no answer, then i sent them 8 yes 8 emails asking them to contact me and not one single reply so now my return deadline has passed. i contacted better business beruea and if i don't hear from them soon i will contact them via my brother who lucky for me works FBI in the southern florida district and has police friends to get something moving on this scam. they robbed me of 499.00 dollars and i am not happy. DO NOT BUY FROM THIS COMPANY AND AMAZON SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO USE THEM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.gosale.com/store-info.php/32714/integron-technologies-inc-

I'm looking for a good company to purchase from that ships to the US. Any other options guys? PureMobile is out of stock, so no luck there.

US Supplier
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=184575
Expansys in the UK are a top notch company.

www.importgsm.com is another got mine from them unlocked.

Mod edit: eBay link removed for breach of the forum rules.

What's up with TMOUS HD2's in Asia??

I see more people from asia owning a TMOUS HTC HD2.
Most of them are Security unlocked and are from the new Model ID: PB81120
Anyone can tell me how it's posible those countries have it, and also security unlocked??
Any one can help me getting one?

xmoo said:
I see more people from asia owning a TMOUS HTC HD2.
Most of them are Security unlocked and are from the new Model ID: PB81120
Anyone can tell me how it's posible those countries have it, and also security unlocked??
Any one can help me getting one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I purchased one from eBay. I'm sorry, what do you mean by security unlocked?

There are a lot of tmobile HD2s and unlocking code services on Ebay. The total cost + unlock code + shipping is even cheaper than buying asian/eu version outright.

haydendo said:
I purchased one from eBay. I'm sorry, what do you mean by security unlocked?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://twitpic.com/1l663d

I am also interested in buying TMOUS HD2 unlocked.

enyaj said:
I am also interested in buying TMOUS HD2 unlocked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got a chineese guy on my msn. He's a member here @ XDA.
He knows a store where you can but them. 420 euros.
TMOUS Security and SIM and CID unlocked.

xmoo said:
I got a chineese guy on my msn. He's a member here @ XDA.
He knows a store where you can but them. 420 euros.
TMOUS Security and SIM and CID unlocked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wonder how much would everything cost in philippine money

So member "bobsbbq" should not stop developing CHT/CHS Lost In Asia ROM because it has vast market there and LIA ROM is 100% compatible with US HD2.
A side note: US HD2 supports 3G band in Hong Kong.

enyaj said:
I wonder how much would everything cost in philippine money
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
someone selling at sulit.com.ph for Php 28k

wha about the 3g in asia

Not really sure how they get those phones.. i bought one Tmobile HD2 for USD 500 (euro410)(23400 phil peso), In Malaysia.. Its distributed by an approved permit company... Its a grey market thing... They are not official HTC dristributers but they are legal because they pay the govt tax therefore the govt considers it as legal business... The same goes for nokia, samsung, sony etc phones... Thought some people prefer to go through the official nokia distributer because of the better service but the phones can cost above USD100 extra.

As mentioned, U.S. devices are sold cheaper on Ebay than they are in the local stores (in the Philippines, at least).
Everytime I visit the Philippines, I go to a shopping mall (Greenhills) and look at the phones (my cousins know some of the sellers). The used smartphones cost more than some phones here in the US (subsidized or not).
I even asked my cousins in the Philippines to buy me a belt holster for my TP2. When they asked the employee how much the phone itself cost, they were shocked it cost ~$900! And I bought my T-Mo TP2 (subsidized) for $350 (un-subsidized, the TP2 costs $500)!
Also, there are a lot of T-Mo HD2s on Ebay because many T-Mo customers wanted the HD2 for its hardware. Once they met WinMo OS, they wanted to sell it as fast as possible and get their old phones back.

[Q] Seems to have found the 16 GB version...

..but, am uncertain about the "validity" of this online shop.
Anyone have experience with this merchent?
http://www.cellgsmphones.com/conten...omnia_7_16gb_unlocked_gsm_phone_preorder.html

there is no 16 giga version for the omnia7

Thats wrong. There is such a version - for example in Germany.
If this site got the 16GB Version is a different matter tough.

These shops have the 16GB Versions http://geizhals.at/eu/a582829.html
watch out for the German T-Mobile Branded Omnia 7. It's not released right now, we have to wait 2-3 weeks.

Not 2-3 weeks. I just got an email that the place where I bought it will send it to me on Friday.
Most sites on the Internet says 16th or 18th though.

Where did you buy it, the most shops i asked about the 16GB version said 2-3 weeks.

I bought it with a contract on an ebay store.
I guess thats not what you are looking for.
But on amazon.de there are for example a few shops with a delivery on 18th.
If you search on google you will see the other stores with 16th (I have doubts that they really get it delivered by then, but thats what they say)

Anyone found one outside of Germany? Also, are the German ones unlocked and usable abroad?
Starting to get tired of waiting for the Dell Venue Pro.

A t-mobile phone is a t-mobile phone as far as i know. You can buy it from the link i posted earlier this morning sim free from deutsche telekom *aka t-mobile*
***posted this earlier****
It's with deutsche telekom you can get the 16gb version.
Found the link.
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_122595-0-10452;CNC-0,00.html
ohne vertrag - without contract = 609.95€
"Someone Phone them this morning on 0800 33 55222 *german phone code 49* and see where they'll send it, i'm guessing anywhere if you pay for it"

T-Mobile US and UK are not compatible so I need to be sure there's no issue between Germany and UK as that would be a waste of my money .

Peew971 said:
T-Mobile US and UK are not compatible so I need to be sure there's no issue between Germany and UK as that would be a waste of my money .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I travel europe and get no issues apart from roaming charges , i am in live chat with them now, it's worth a laugh later, my bad german 5 min, then he asks "do i speak english...fu**ing classic*

What I meant was... If it's locked to T-Mobile DE, would it be ok with T-Mobile UK.
On a side note I wasn't expecting such a high price, maybe 100€ less...

Peew971 said:
What I meant was... If it's locked to T-Mobile DE, would it be ok with T-Mobile UK.
On a side note I wasn't expecting such a high price, maybe 100€ less...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm getting there. I've asked, but god bless him, its like this
"Dennis: NoThis does not go because you a German address must have."
saying that, i asked him this in german it seems.
for a free sim 7up.
****UPDATE****
*chat transcript*
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1307/livechat.png
Seems will work, Just have to be german to have it sent too you

Alright, waiting for an update. It seems Amazon.de is selling the phone too but they don't mention storage.

Peew971 said:
Alright, waiting for an update. It seems Amazon.de is selling the phone too but they don't mention storage.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't think 513.964 GBP - is that bad for the 16GB thinking what they are selling the 8gb here for ?
I updated

mwako said:
I didn't think 513.964 GBP - is that bad for the 16GB thinking what they are selling the 8gb here for ?
I updated
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah maybe compared to the 8GB but the PAYG HD7 is only £380 and also 16GB, even if you pay to unlock it you won't go above £400 .
I might have to wait for the Dell Venue Pro afterall and upgrade the SD card.

Peew971 said:
Yeah maybe compared to the 8GB but the PAYG HD7 is only £380 and also 16GB, even if you pay to unlock it you won't go above £400 .
I might have to wait for the Dell Venue Pro afterall and upgrade the SD card.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But ya don't get the fastest, brightest unit atm lol, it's personal taste, i love HTC, i have shares in them lol the better they do, the richer i get
I've had a HTC from the MDA pro, TyTnII, Touch Pro 2, HD2, and now the Samsung, Why... put two next to each other When HTC front the cash and jump Samsung again with a new model back i go

I've got the German Omnia and it is definitely not locked to T-Mobile, because otherwise I wouldn't be able to use it with o2
The phone has no hardware branding but software branding with some uninstallable software and a customized search within IE (instead of Bing you get a Google based Telekom search). The biggest problem so far is that the MMS settings are locked to T-Mobile and are not customizable, so I can't sent or receive MMS (for me, it's no big deal, but for some it is...).
Furthermore, you can get the phone from other stores as well: Geizhals (local price search) has an overview of several shops that have the phone and are also cheaper than T-Mobile. The shop with the lowest price (handyattacke.de) also mentions that it might be possible to ship to other countries, but you have to ask them ("Lieferung in weitere Länder auf Anfrage."). Might be worth a try

Reihnold said:
but software branding with some uninstallable software
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
which software from t-mobile can not be removed?
i removed all the t mobile stuff
only the mms problem is there...

mwako said:
*chat transcript*
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL! Thats pretty funny... No offense, but let me guess, your german was coming from google translate or something like that? At least you´ve tried it!
Was today in a T-Mobile Shop in Germany and was asking the guy there about the Omnia 7. He confirmed me that all the T-Mobile branded Omnia 7 which are sold in Germany have 16GB memory and are not locked... That means you just have to find a Online Shop in Germany who send it to Europe to get a 16GB one. The only things you have to accept are the mms problem, startscreen from T-mobile for 2 seconds and the T-mobile Search. But Im sure with the time somebody here solve that problems...