Hello guys. I have a question about battery lifespan. How battery will perform in 2 years with normal usage?
> How battery will perform in 2 years with normal usage?
not as good as today (like every battery)
My only question is...
is the fast charging more harmful for the battery,
Should I expect a faster performance degradation over time because of the fast charge ?
I'm not sure there's enough experience with the fast charging to answer that question for sure, but....
Fast charging generates more heat. More heat means faster degradation for lithium batteries. That's well documented. I personally would only resort to fast charging when I really need it, rather than making it the normal charging method.
If I keep this phone longer than 6 months I would br surprised. Battery should be alright though. I still see old phones running just fine.
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Just got my phone today, and the battery is almost dead... so i want to know how to charge it to get the best battery life possible
Thanks
Well it's mostly about not putting to much strain on your battery and it not getting to warm. It's better to make small charges more frequent that it is to totally drain your battery and charge it. Though I wouldn't worry to much about the newer generation of li-ion batteries are pretty decent either way.
The best way would to charge them in a cold place while they are not in use, and are therefor not a suitable way for your phone. If you want to use your phone anyway
MrThomsen said:
Well it's mostly about not putting to much strain on your battery and it not getting to warm. It's better to make small charges more frequent that it is to totally drain your battery and charge it. Though I wouldn't worry to much about the newer generation of li-ion batteries are pretty decent either way.
The best way would to charge them in a cold place while they are not in use, and are therefor not a suitable way for your phone. If you want to use your phone anyway
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Cold also drains your battery, maybe even more than hot. I'm not an expert in this area, but I'm not sure the small little charges would benefit you that much.
lithium batteries are not really affected by cold temperatures, unlike nimh and nicad batteries
when I got my I was disappointed too.. try some roms...
go to "Galaxy S II Original Android Development"...
Now I'm using Cognition S2... My battery life is about 2 or 3 days...
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So I was a bit skeptical about practical use cases for the fast charging. I made a general observation after the first few days. It's currently completely not scientific. But it seems when I disabled the fast charging, my phone seemed to handle battery life way better. Idk how efficient the energy is when done via fast charge, but I've always heard that a slow steady charge is better for lithiums.
I figured maybe this could cover the impacts of fast charge and whether people have noticed similar things. (Day 4)
h3ck said:
So I was a bit skeptical about practical use cases for the fast charging. I made a general observation after the first few days. It's currently completely not scientific. But it seems when I disabled the fast charging, my phone seemed to handle battery life way better. Idk how efficient the energy is when done via fast charge, but I've always heard that a slow steady charge is better for lithiums.
I figured maybe this could cover the impacts of fast charge and whether people have noticed similar things. (Day 4)
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Looking forward to your findings!
I disabled fast charge the day I got it. Seems pointless to me since the only time I charge is at night. It's a cool feature if I need a charge in 20 minutes but the note 3 I gave my wife would charge in no time as well.
Battery life is great so far for me.
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I've been testing this as well. I leave fast charging on and I'm seeing an easy 14 or so hours off charger with 4 to 5 hours screen time.
Fast charging is incredible. My last charge cycle I recorded was 56% to 98% in 28 min. That's about 1.5% per minute. Though I suspect soome non linearity as it gets closer to 100%.
As far as the longevity of a charge based on regular or Gast charging . There will Likley be no correlation. The charge circuit will handle the incoming current appropriately and the battery is built to handle it. I am a EE and am intimately familiar with battery technology. The charger itself changes its output voltage for fast charging (stepping up the voltage but lowering the current) and I'm at sure there is some software as well as special hardware controls in place to ensure the battery is charging effeciently.
The usual problem with charging batteries too fast is due to heat build up in the battery. However, these new batteries were developed to solve these problems. I wouldn't worry about it.
Here are my results with just over 3 hours of screen time
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I love quick charge. Nuff sedd lol!
After a whole day on wifi in the office plus weak cellular signal inside the building destroys the battery, I plug it in for 15-20 minutes and I'm good for a whole night. Love it.
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18 hours off battery, 4hrs screen time, and still 19% battery.
I wouldn't care if fast charging destroyed my battery every 6 months. I'd buy another for $20, but it's not going to do that.
hi
in an emergency to enable fast charging or in normal mode?
This option is enabled for better battery or not?
Explain in general, this option is enabled for better battery or the reverse is not an option?
In emergency you can charge in fast charging mode. Or maybe always charge in fast charging mode. If it was not good for the battery, Samsung may not have made this feature in the first place. And Samsung must have spent enough in R&D to figure how fast to charge in fast charging mode. But since I am usually not in hurry and traditionally slow charging is better for the battery, I have disabled fast charging.
yes indeed @willstay
just as charging the 12V car battery Lower Speed is Better for long term battery life
A car battery uses technology completely different to Li-Ion... therefore, the charging procedure is not the same
This entire thread killed a few brain cells.
Since my battery is exchangeable pretty easily, it doesn't make much sense to me to do without this feature. How much does it shorten battery life in the end? Any infos available?
I don't think it shortens battery life much since it will charge your phone faster and produce the same amount of heat as the normal charge.I think it doesn't really matter which mode you use.
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A car battery uses technology completely different to Li-Ion... therefore, the charging procedure is not the same
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it is a diffrenet technology but still it is a battery
we all agree lower is better
yes the battery is easily replacable
but in my country i dont trust buying a battery ( even the the buyer says it is original ), the battery that comes in the phone is the best one coming form Samsung
so for me better take care of its health
^Lots of fake Samsung batteries around indeed. Still: it makes me so much more relaxed to know that it takes just a little bit more than half an hour to be at 50% again. I don't even bother to charge my phone over night anymore. Which IMO is absolutely awesome! ?
I read an article long time ago saying that the less amperage you put into your phone the more your battery will last.
So, does this fast charge hurt your battery in the long term ?
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8 Common Misconceptions About Mobile Device Batteries You Need To Know
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None of the above links actually answer the question.
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To an extent, yes, charging at a lower rate is better for your battery. But the real enemies of Li battery life are heat, over-charging, and draining the battery to zero (or very close to zero). As long as the fast charging is controlled so that your battery doesn't get hot, the impact on battery life is likely to be small. And QC fast charge reduces both the voltage and current as the battery level gets closer to full to minimize heat buildup. I generally don't use fast charge because I have no need to, but on the few occasions when I have, the phone gets a little bit warm, but not hot. I haven't used fast wireless, so I'm not commenting on that.
Overcharging isn't a problem as long as your phone and charger are working correctly. The circuitry won't let the battery overcharge.
Draining the battery completely is is your hands. Avoid it unless you have no option.
If you really want to make the battery last as long as physically possible, don't use fast charging, and keep the charge level between about 75% and 25%. That will minimize all negatives as far as battery life is concerned. But even if you use fast charge every day and always charge the phone to 100%, you'll probably be ready for a new phone before the battery is a major issue.
Do avoid draining the battery completely, though.
As a first-time owner of an OP phone, I am really amazed with both battery endurance and charging speed.
However, I am a bit concerned about the battery longevity by using high V/Amps during charge, especially as the charging speed is not a top priority for me (most of the times).
As I still can't shake the habit of overnight charging, I was thinking about using an weaker / non-OP charger for overnight charging.
So, does anyone else share my concerns?
I've owned the OP 3 for two years and I've been using dash charge every night. The battery life is still good and I could get through the day. So I'm not too worried about it.
The current conversion is done by the charger and the cable, not the phone
The shorter charging time will produce less heat
=> Theoretically, it will help the battey's longevity
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So, does anyone else share my concerns?
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Yes. I almost always slow charge all my devices. When slow charged my devices last longer on that charge. Even at 0.5 amp it still doesn't take that long to charge my 6T.
The battery degrades due to heat since Dash takes most of the heat away from the battery and puts it in the brick we should be fine and to mention the battery management controler will only draw the power it needs and won't draw over the limit so no issues there. But coming from previous OP devices I've noticed the Battery quality isn't as good as other OEM's and definitely degrades much faster but OnePlus will replace the battery very cheap or you could do yourself if you can source an OEM part and adhesive