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Thanks for all the devs helping us with all the 2.3.4 rom based off the official rom. It runs well. However, I am waiting for to dev who can either bring cm7 or mini to our rom. Right now, there is just too much moto blur bloat on the official rom.
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As far as i know, CM team is trying to make a CM port to our phone. But as you may know, the hardware in our phone is different than the versions they have now for other phones (for example, the fingerprint scanner). They doesnt have any 2.3.4 motorola source code to have as a base neither....
They will never come
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Why don't u think they'll come curious to hear ur opinion
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They will never come
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Why do you think so?
spx2000 said:
Thanks for all the devs helping us with all the 2.3.4 rom based off the official rom. It runs well. However, I am waiting for to dev who can either bring cm7 or mini to our rom. Right now, there is just too much moto blur bloat on the official rom.
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Huh. Go on then, take the source and start-a-porting. How about this: don't ever expect anything to come. There is a chance it will never come, although sense the CM team is working on it I suspect it will arrive some day. Their one rule is to not ask for etas, so please stop asking where cm7 is.
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Huh. Go on then, take the source and start-a-porting. How about this: don't ever expect anything to come. There is a chance it will never come, although sense the CM team is working on it I suspect it will arrive some day. Their one rule is to not ask for etas, so please stop asking where cm7 is.
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Learn to read, no one asked where it was OP simply stated that they are waiting for it as opposed to just messing with the current roms
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Huh. Go on then, take the source and start-a-porting. How about this: don't ever expect anything to come. There is a chance it will never come, although sense the CM team is working on it I suspect it will arrive some day. Their one rule is to not ask for etas, so please stop asking where cm7 is.
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I totally agree we shouldn't take the devs for granted (especially those of us just savvy enough to use the roms, but not enough to help make 'em at all).
However, last year Android was at like 16% market share, and CM could support basically every unlocked phone all the way back to the G1. This year Android market share is at almost 40% with phone dropping at an accelerating rate. I'm sure it helps them decide which phones to support to know where there is interest.
I hope it doesn't hurt anyone at CM's feelings for me to say that I love CM, and have missed it ever since I left my G1 for the Atrix, and I too will be holding off on flashing roms for now in hopes that CM will add us to the supported device list.
Well said
Incognitum said:
I totally agree we shouldn't take the devs for granted (especially those of us just savvy enough to use the roms, but not enough to help make 'em at all).
However, last year Android was at like 16% market share, and CM could support basically every unlocked phone all the way back to the G1. This year Android market share is at almost 40% with phone dropping at an accelerating rate. I'm sure it helps them decide which phones to support to know where there is interest.
I hope it doesn't hurt anyone at CM's feelings for me to say that I love CM, and have missed it ever since I left my G1 for the Atrix, and I too will be holding off on flashing roms for now in hopes that CM will add us to the supported device list.
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Where can we get atleast 100% confirmation that cm7 is in fact being worked on. No he said she said stuff. Let's see an actual post from one of the devs please. I think that would make people feel A LOT better
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Anthonok said:
Where can we get atleast 100% confirmation that cm7 is in fact being worked on. No he said she said stuff. Let's see an actual post from one of the devs please. I think that would make people feel A LOT better
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I would like to see this too, assuming such confirmation even exists...I've been watching aliasxerog's twitter periodically, as it seemed he and a team of a few other guys were given the unlocked Atrix to work on? As recently as like last week or something, he had made comments about working on a kernel.
However recently it seems he has been looking for a DX2...nothing like ditching work on one phone partway through! Hopefully this isn't really the case lol, and he is still at work on CM7 or something!
if you search for CM7 on the Atrix foruns you'll see a post with status updates on the port. No "he said she said".
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if you search for CM7 on the Atrix foruns you'll see a post with status updates on the port. No "he said she said".
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Got a link to that post??
i definite don't take devs for granted. While I don't have the the technical chops to port myself, I donated to several projects .
While the current official rom works very well, I believe atrix can be even better without all the extra bloat . I think we have good chance to see miui official support for our phone because the phone is being heavily advertised by the china cellular providers.
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Come on guys, if you don't pro-actively "wait for it", things will be much easier for you
It will take time for the first build to emerge, and even more times before all the bugs get fixed. Just subscribe to aliaxesrog twitter and wait for your day.
To be clear, you don't have to be a existing CM7 Dev to start print CM7, it's open source.
When a developer gets a port working for a specific device, if they can merge the unique code for that device back into CM7 mainline, it becomes an officially supported device and that developer becomes a recognized maintainer.
We have a few people working on CM7, AliasXerog, SamCripp and I'm reaching out to others, but as no Moto devices have been as unlocked as the Atrix since the OG Droid people are starting from scratch.
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Rewards (READ: BIG QTD OF DOLLARS) was offered and NO CM team said anything about ETA or if its being worked on, so i gona hate cm team and i think they will not support our phone, sad but true.
I really want to donate, and i didn't have more a atrix (mine got dropped on toilet), but just when community got somethig good and working.
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Rewards (READ: BIG QTD OF DOLLARS) was offered and NO CM team said anything about ETA or if its being worked on, so i gona hate cm team and i think they will not support our phone, sad but true.
I really want to donate, and i didn't have more a atrix (mine got dropped on toilet), but just when community got somethig good and working.
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When it gets ported, they will presumably start supporting. Have faith!
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The Cyanogen devs have said, repeatedly, that what devices they develop CyanogenMod for is dependent on what devices they personally have or have access to. That being said, there is a thread on the Unofficial Ports section of their forum, but it's almost exclusively repetitions of "the bootloader is unlocked, can we get a port now please?"
For the more impatient members of the angry mob, it's worth remembering that the bootloader hasn't been unlocked for all that long.
Guys read this
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/14006-motorola-atrix-4g/
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I would like to take a moment and humbly thank AllDroid.org for supporting my campaign to keep Android development moving forward as a community. We are a single voice reminding everyone that as much as we are Android, Android is us.​
Yeah, still downloading...
Hey man. Every one I've downloaded the past couple of days gives me the same sideload error lol
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Hey man. Every one I've downloaded the past couple of days gives me the same sideload error lol
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If it helps, I don't think we will have quite as many of those issues anymore.
Gotcha good stuff. What causes the error?
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Gotcha good stuff. What causes the error?
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40% not using proper neutral text editors on all the install scripts, 20% the mistake of trying to make the built universal, and another 20% bad file combinations.
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So when i install the base, I boot to the unlock screen and cannot get the screen to unlock due to screen inaccuracy. When I try to flash the port I receive an error and the installation aborts.
So, now that ICS has been released to AOSP, do you think these small bugs will be worked out?
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So, now that ICS has been released to AOSP, do you think these small bugs will be worked out?
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Please read post 1, paragraph 1.
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I guess I'm confused as well... AOSP was released and that is not the entire source?
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I guess I'm confused as well... AOSP was released and that is not the entire source?
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The nexus source was released. In Git terms, it is just one branch.
And apparently I am going to have disappearing ink...(meaning you all get to miss my witty responses to the random comments)
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This is a development thread. We know about source. We know what was and wasn't released. This is not a place for general questions or chit-chat. If you have something to contribute, please post. If not, hit the thanks button, pull up a chair, and wait with the rest of us.
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This is a development thread. We know about source. We know what was and wasn't released. This is not a place for general questions or chit-chat. If you have something to contribute, please post. If not, hit the thanks button, pull up a chair, and wait with the rest of us.
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*smack* yeah, I am still trying to put together a frankenstein build process for the mecha. Right now it is a little ugly, but it is starting to make sense.
...and another case of dew gives its life to the cause...
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kite edit: well, it wasn't aimed at you, obviously
Not sure if I know what I am doing, but when the poop hits the propeller, I have never had to build source that wasn't already at least somewhat modified for my device.
I got all the proprietary stuff, the countless extra common additions, and now it seems I have to go find all the hardware build parts missing because all we got was a nexus layout and dashed hopes of much more.
It may or may not be realistic to just merge in the missing parts, but at least it is a good start. Everything is configured to work, it just wants some stuff I am still downloading.
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I downloaded and built ICS today. However, it is based on a 3.0 kernel and HTC hasn't released the source for that yet. It would make things go a lot faster if they release it soon.
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I downloaded and built ICS today. However, it is based on a 3.0 kernel and HTC hasn't released the source for that yet. It would make things go a lot faster if they release it soon.
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Is your build functional
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I am starting a fund to get a Nexus S and port directly from the device. After looking over this source, that seems to be more realistic than attempting to rewrite the entire thing.
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Is your build functional
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Have you ever built android from source? Do you know what we have? Do you know what you're asking?
Development. I think if this guy had built something that ran he'd mention it.
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Have you ever built android from source? Do you know what we have? Do you know what you're asking?
Development. I think if this guy had built something that ran he'd mention it.
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I will post every detail I can, but I will admit a lot of it is currently mixed in with DHD and Dinc, as we have been working as one team instead of separate devices. I will make a point to link up what has been going on soon. That was overlooked on my part.
The builds in the first post are functional, but the version being built from source should not and will not be a [email protected]$$ rip -off of another device. That is costing time...
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oh wow! look at you being a cool forum mod on the internet! You show your authority foo!
A lot of people say they did something and oh yeah i rooted the inc...oh yeah where is the method...ummmm tell you in a week or so just making sure i can release it...couple days later it was all fake. It mostly always is. If people make claims they should show proof but you believe everything everyone says you amazing mod you.
ps: if someone makes a dumb comment ignore it. bc your a mod doesnt mean you can shoot off dumb*** comments, not everyone is as smart as you im sorry to say it.
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While I do not always agree with the Mods on this forum, I have been in contact with the one keeping a watch over this forum and he has a good understanding of what is and isnt relevant. He responded to make a valid point because a lot of the posts that have been removed are the direct result of not reading the first post. There have been MANY posts throughout the entire site pushing for releases only days after the initial release of a partial source. I think it is best you keep in mind, that nothing he said is directly rude unless you choose to read it that way.
To read up on a lot of the details of what is going on, a lot of the work is better documented http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343361
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
Solution: DONT FLASH IT!
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I think its even worst... Isnt he implying that we shloud blame sammcrip for releasing FCM and starting this influx of ROMS? It just amazes me how ungratefull and lazzy people can be.
Thanks all the devs for all this ROMs! I can use the search feature and filter all the junk from the good stuff. UHAaaaa! Im a smart n00b.
Peace.
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I don't think he is bashing anyone. He is just pointing out that once anyone with little skill or talent can put other people's "tweaks" together and produce a rom in a few clicks you forgo quality for quantity
I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
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Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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jokersax11 said:
I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
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I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
Reread the op
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I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
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Reread the op
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I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...
ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
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The new roms are from cm9 kangs, which fcm has nothing to do with, and rdanner's ports. Which also have nothing to do with fcm. We also have Nottach making a new rom based on 2.3.6, and marko doing the same thing. Once again, neither have any affiliation with fcm... So what's the problem with development kicking off?
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Well I thought a development boom was a good thing. If you read descriptions they might say alpha build and if you think some of the newer roms aren't as high quality stick with what you know. I personally like choices and trying new things. Waiting patiently for miui to improve haven't touched cm9 probably wont until camera works. Just consider things and read what works before you flash things.
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I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...
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In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
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Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
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Because there isn't a whole lot more to do to our phones except optimizing what we have already, and porting over android 4.0. Our dev team isn't done, but the groundbreaking work that you want is.
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BTW, I am really stoked for CM9 and the future beyond.. The work that goes into all this is difficult. Maybe deep down inside, It is me just getting bored with the hobby?
Sorry about the post, and I respect all the guys who do, do this.
I don't think you quite understand what kang means.
All unofficial cm roms are kangs, even ones that are in development to become official cm. Like mine. To become official everything major must work without breaking other phones. So if you want official cm9 someone must fix the problems. The little groundbreaking work you are wanting is the kangs. Yes the atrix team laid ground work to get cm9 ported but they stopped working on it. I was given cm9 only a few weeks ago when the photon cm dev moved to a different phone. He didn't even have cm9 up. Only cm7. I'm not making a temporary kang to satisfy ics thirst. I'm making the fixes to go official.
Also if you read up only one cm9 is current and going forward. Guess who's
Btw I don't even have an atrix, I'm blind building
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Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
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Yep, your probably correct
Again, not bashing anyone.
AND... Thats freaking nuts to be blind building. My mind cant work that way
Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
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I did check to see if that's what he was being so butt hurt about. I figured because it was a second thought to his original rant and the fact joker defended the wrong part of the rant he knew why he was defending himself.
His complaints about the KANG's was not being able to tell the difference between them, not that they were simple tweaks turned into roms.
Long day. Plus complaining about free work equals thread
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Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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At this point, things that don't work are the things I need to work. Nothing has changed for nearly two months now, so I'm just curious.
the impatience and greed around here is unbelievable...
if you want something to be fully working and perfect, you gotta make it yourself. plus rushing things isn't gonna do any good at all. it will come, just be patient... be glad we even have a Sense 4 ROM...
Dude, seriously, it was a question. That's it. Not a complaint, not impatience, and not greed. The assumptions of others on this forum is what is really unbelievable. I knew that some joker would answer back like that.
Saranhai is part of the team that brings a lot of ROM's to this device. He is probably a little frustrated that it seems like is never good enough, or fast enough for people. Your question may have been honest and purely innocent, but with the way things have been around here lately his reaction is somewhat understandable.
Several devs are hard at work on sense 4 kernels and the camera. When they have a usable fix, it will be released. If you want to add to their resolve you could always donate
Don_Perrignon said:
Dude, seriously, it was a question. That's it. Not a complaint, not impatience, and not greed. The assumptions of others on this forum is what is really unbelievable. I knew that some joker would answer back like that.
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I'm patiently waiting too. And so you know, I'm posting this in a good mood, not frustrated or being smart. But from what I understand is its basically at a standstill until devs can get the necassary kernel to get the camera working. It's not that they are being slow..they simply don't have what's needed to accomplish it. And I may be entirely wrong..that's just what I have been thinking.
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Don_Perrignon said:
Dude, seriously, it was a question. That's it. Not a complaint, not impatience, and not greed. The assumptions of others on this forum is what is really unbelievable. I knew that some joker would answer back like that.
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Well maybe you should've worded it better than instead of sounding like a selfish idiot... Anyway sorry for "assuming"
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I'm patiently waiting too. And so you know, I'm posting this in a good mood, not frustrated or being smart. But from what I understand is its basically at a standstill until devs can get the necassary kernel to get the camera working. It's not that they are being slow..they simply don't have what's needed to accomplish it. And I may be entirely wrong..that's just what I have been thinking.
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Okay. I understand, not saying anybody is being slow. I just wanted to know what the issue was. It's crazy that Sense seems to be the most troublesome UI.
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Well maybe you should've worded it better than instead of sounding like a selfish idiot... Anyway sorry for "assuming"
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Take it at face value MF. It's my fault that you put your own thoughts into a simple question? Seriously, it's all too common on XDA for people to needlessly attack others on the basis that people are too sensitive.
See the answer that JJ gave? That's all that we needed. I wanted to know the issues the devs were facing? If anything I was concerned, because I've never seen something give this kind of trouble on this phone. We all appreciate the works that devs do. We all act like kids in a candy store for the work that devs do.
Team Inferno member ...Awesome... is releasing a One S port. Yes, One S. Hope that fits your needs (besides camera )
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At this point, things that don't work are the things I need to work. Nothing has changed for nearly two months now, so I'm just curious.
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if you did any searching youd know it all depends on when HTC releases the 3.0 kernel and we can get some kernel devs to port it to our devices..
did you really need a thread to ask for an ETA on something thats not even meant for our phone? cmon son lol
I too am impatiently waiting for a upgrade
TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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Couldn't have summed it up better myself
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TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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You just summed up my thoughts to the OP and this thread...
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trofmoc said:
TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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Who the **** is demanding? It was a question wanting to the the issue the devs where facing.
Oooh i think this is gonna come to a close soon. Enough fighting
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I like cereal.
That is all.
People should stop getting butthurt so easily.
I2IEAILiiTY said:
I like cereal.
That is all.
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No way! Me too
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I think it got a little hot outside to the point it heated everything, even in the internet.... xD
The issue is that there's no HTC official kernel source for any "sister" devices - DHD/DS, and they didn't get the HTC ICS update either. Without the kernel source, devs have to use kernel source from other, less compatible devices to compile the kernel, and the binary drivers from those devices don't match the HW. There are no skilled enough and/or willing enough devs to dig in the kernel code and rewrite the API towards the drivers to match the older, working drivers from Gingerbread (that's what was done back in Gingerbread release time), mostly because it's a huge work that brings almost no benefits - the official code is likely to be better anyway, and its release will most likely be closer to this point in time than the shortest time required for "enthusiast" work.
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The issue is that there's no HTC official kernel source for any "sister" devices - DHD/DS, and they didn't get the HTC ICS update either. Without the kernel source, devs have to use kernel source from other, less compatible devices to compile the kernel, and the binary drivers from those devices don't match the HW. There are no skilled enough and/or willing enough devs to dig in the kernel code and rewrite the API towards the drivers to match the older, working drivers from Gingerbread (that's what was done back in Gingerbread release time), mostly because it's a huge work that brings almost no benefits - the official code is likely to be better anyway, and its release will most likely be closer to this point in time than the shortest time required for "enthusiast" work.
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I think in layman terms, that means if someone attempted to rewrite source code to match the h/w in the Glacier, by the time they would finish, better & more compatible code would be here anyway. So its best, at this point, to just wait patiently?
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Is anyone bored with their pixels? Seems development for this phone is nonexistent. I miss flashing different Roms on my Nexus 6p. Is it just too early or its going to stay this way.
Its gonna take some time since twrp is not stable yet. Just be patient...
dnyc said:
Is anyone bored with their pixels? Seems development for this phone is nonexistent. I miss flashing different Roms on my Nexus 6p. Is it just too early or its going to stay this way.
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Once we have a fully functioning TWRP and more devs get the phone things will change.
airmaxx23 said:
Once we have a fully functioning TWRP and more devs get the phone things will change.
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I guess but at this time with the nexus p there was a lot more development and more then that a lot more development Community involved. I wonder if the Verizon exclusive mixed with Google's inability to keep them in stock on the Play Store the problem.
I think I could care less this time around. I think it has enough mods. The performance on this phone is already unreal. And battery life is more than anyone could ask for
I am bored, however, understanding that an alpha TWRP, beta su, and no xposed yet to be a reasonable impediment for development. Honestly, I am really happy with what is offered so far that maybe I should focus on improving other areas of my life?
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Smallsmx3 said:
I think I could care less this time around. I think it has enough mods. The performance on this phone is already unreal. And battery life is more than anyone could ask for
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Same here just a kernel and I'm happy
My days of crack flashing are over. Stock rooted with TWRP and Elemental kernel and I'm happy. When more custom ROM's are released I'm sure I'll try a couple but I'm not getting board with my XL. Still the best phone I have had.
Blame Google. They changed they way stuff gets flashed n stored. On previous Google devices it was super easy. The pixel isnt a developer phone but a main street device. One to lure Samsung n iPhone users away from those devices
moosc said:
Blame Google. They changed they way stuff gets flashed n stored. On previous Google devices it was super easy. The pixel isnt a developer phone but a main street device. One to lure Samsung n iPhone users away from those devices
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I don't get this comment at all. So they changed things under the hood to lead people away from devices that are (in my opinion) usually used by people that don't care to mod so wouldn't know the difference between how easy or hard it is to mod or not mod..
Show me where any Nexus device was sold as a development device.
There are growing pains plain and simple. And some folks (op) need to realize these guys don't get paid and don't work at anyone's schedule but their own.
Android evolves. It has in the past and very smart people were able to figure it out then and very well may do it now.
It'll happen.
Give it time
Instead of complaining about it why do you go sit down at your computer and make us a ROM?
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Pixel development will start once 7.1.1 source drops. Which should be on the 5th. At least that's when I'll start working on DU rom for it.
spaceman860 said:
Pixel development will start once 7.1.1 source drops. Which should be on the 5th. At least that's when I'll start working on DU rom for it.
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Fantastic.
I thought 711 source was already out.
Glad to hear progress will soon be forthcoming.
not bored at all.. stock and root with custom kernel is all i need and want nowadays..
I will be watching for some Pure Nexus goodness.
superchilpil said:
Instead of complaining about it why do you go sit down at your computer and make us a ROM?
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Knew this comment was coming. Maybe your reading comprehension is a little off so I'll explain. He was asking a question about his perspective to see if anyone felt the same. Don't know where you read a complaint at? Feel free to be self righteous somewhere else
cwalker0906 said:
Knew this comment was coming. Maybe your reading comprehension is a little off so I'll explain. He was asking a question about his perspective to see if anyone felt the same. Don't know where you read a complaint at? Feel free to be self righteous somewhere else
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Thing is it is a tad pretentious to complain about or suggest that the device isn't meeting expectations because people aren't putting in enough work fast enough to appease someone's desire to flash.
If someone is that impatient they should've stayed where they were and waited until the device matured a bit more.
That's my perspective on it.
dnyc said:
Is anyone bored with their pixels? Seems development for this phone is nonexistent. I miss flashing different Roms on my Nexus 6p. Is it just too early or its going to stay this way.
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Nope! It will come as soon as TWRP comes along. Cant do stuff without a solid Recovery.
lucky_strike33 said:
Its gonna take some time since twrp is not stable yet. Just be patient...
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Yep! Exactly.
Smallsmx3 said:
I think I could care less this time around. I think it has enough mods. The performance on this phone is already unreal. And battery life is more than anyone could ask for
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Mike02z said:
My days of crack flashing are over. Stock rooted with TWRP and Elemental kernel and I'm happy. When more custom ROM's are released I'm sure I'll try a couple but I'm not getting board with my XL. Still the best phone I have had.
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Same here! And I love making ROMs and cleaning them up! But for now I am happy with Elemental X and stock.
moosc said:
Blame Google. They changed they way stuff gets flashed n stored. On previous Google devices it was super easy. The pixel isnt a developer phone but a main street device. One to lure Samsung n iPhone users away from those devices
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True!
pcriz said:
I don't get this comment at all. So they changed things under the hood to lead people away from devices that are (in my opinion) usually used by people that don't care to mod so wouldn't know the difference between how easy or hard it is to mod or not mod..
Show me where any Nexus device was sold as a development device.
There are growing pains plain and simple. And some folks (op) need to realize these guys don't get paid and don't work at anyone's schedule but their own.
Android evolves. It has in the past and very smart people were able to figure it out then and very well may do it now.
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Im smart, I think? Nahhh... Im not. But if I was I would say... It has evolved like stated. Now we have to worry about slots, Kernels, recovery, etc...
Things have radically changed! Its not going to be as easy in the past. Users are bound to mess up there phones which will require more support, etc... This is for sure! Once TWRP gets 100% I will be posting...
Edit: Actually Nexus devices ARE sold as Developer devices...
pcriz said:
Thing is it is a tad pretentious to complain about or suggest that the device isn't meeting expectations because people aren't putting in enough work fast enough to appease someone's desire to flash.
If someone is that impatient they should've stayed where they were and waited until the device matured a bit more.
That's my perspective on it.
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Yep! Agreed 100%!
Edit: I dont want to just make a ROM with the same system image then add a script to mod it. Thats just me though... I like editing the ROM and making it user editable...
Looking forward to Clean ROM pixel XL!
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