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CM 6.1 probably no vibrant :(

Sorry to say but, at this point (unless someone pulls a miracle), it looks like the vibrant wont make the CM 6.1 release
(basing my info on 2 tweets)
wesgarner
@TheDudesAndroid @noobnl_epic @cyanogen @koush what do you think? http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,2152
@noobnl_epic
@wesgarner @TheDudesAndroid @cyanogen @koush should be removed
the link in wes's tweet says
Change I36172fd3: vibrant: Temporarily remove from CM manifest
vibrant: Temporarily remove from CM manifest
Reasons:
1. It doesn't compile - this can be fixed, though
2. It doesn't work... - currently the kernel inside the repo doesn't work plus the build system is not set up to flash the kernel
3. The Vibrant repo is about 2mths old
4. The Vibrant repo contains proprietary. On my fork, I have changed everything over to use extract-files, removed proprietary from all commits using filter-branch
We can refork my repo for the Vibrant, but at the same time - it still isn't ready, so mostly having it on the CM repos for 6.1 RC's this weekend is pretty pointless considering where we are in getting CM6 for the Vibrant
My manifest (git://github.com/wesgarner/android.git) is setup for the current Galaxy S repos (aka my Vibrant repo and noobnl's Epic repo), but this is still such a WIP that keeping it on CM repos really just confuses people about the current status and makes it seem like it's ready when it isn't
Change-Id: I36172fd3e2709d9ff9f23d0cc5c05a8f12d607dc
Of course, i may be completely wrong. We can always hope

Whatever. Bionix is currently rocking my Android world. I'm not sure how much better it could really get short of Froyo involvement.

opiate46 said:
Whatever. Bionix is currently rocking my Android world. I'm not sure how much better it could really get short of Froyo involvement.
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Dude, CM is based on froyo

opiate46 said:
Whatever. Bionix is currently rocking my Android world. I'm not sure how much better it could really get short of Froyo involvement.
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Umm you have no idea what CM is do you?
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opiate46 said:
Whatever. Bionix is currently rocking my Android world. I'm not sure how much better it could really get short of Froyo involvement.
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Dude......
I hit it and it goes bang

karimsaud21 said:
Dude, CM is based on froyo
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CM is not based only on froyo.

i'm fine with that. bionix is honestly better than cm was on my g1, and those cm guys are a bunch of assholes. if (mostly) one guy can build a rom from scratch, i don't understand how a whole team can't figure it out.

You cant expect one guy to make a rom for all android devices. If it doesnt work. O well. I mean there are other roms out there for those wanting to mess with there phones. Bionix is one. And many more to come to the vibrants way. You ppl keep asking these devs who have other lives outside xda. And then get pissed when theres no special rom for ur phone. C'mon now.
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So, what happens to all the money donated for CM Vibrant development?

Yeah that's what I am wondering also. I mean I understand the part of the devs having outside lives bit jeez let us know something
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whodatfever said:
So, what happens to all the money donated for CM Vibrant development?
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the donations were made to wes/scepterr... that has nothing to do with CM. true they are members of the CM team, but all they ever said was that they had plans to port CM6... that doesn't mean they have to, and anyone who decided to donate should have realized that a PLAN does not equal a promise.
if it fails, well crap. if they come back to it later and it works, hooray! until then, your donations belong to whoever you donated to. because that's how donations work.

christpuncher said:
i'm fine with that. bionix is honestly better than cm was on my g1.
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You do understand that the g1s 528mhz processor was crappy as hell right? How can You possibly compare that too a 1ghz hummingbird?
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whodatfever said:
So, what happens to all the money donated for CM Vibrant development?
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beer money

Wow.... Are you serious? d
First you're comparing your Vibrant to a G1, of course it will be better! Even with a stock Vibrant.
Second, the CM guys or any dev for this matter, who gives their free time to make ROMs and MODs for peasants like you and I who cant do it ourselves, are assholes?! How?!
Third, yes it only takes one talented dev to build a ROM from scratch, but without the SOURCE they have no base to work on. It really isnt easy to make a ROM from scratch, and as far as I know only a few devs have successfully done so. Most of them base it on another dev's work or samsung itself...
christpuncher said:
i'm fine with that. bionix is honestly better than cm was on my g1, and those cm guys are a bunch of assholes. if (mostly) one guy can build a rom from scratch, i don't understand how a whole team can't figure it out.
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whodatfever said:
So, what happens to all the money donated for CM Vibrant development?
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I think yall misunderstood me, the Vibrant and other Galaxy S variants aren't off the boards for CM, they just PROBABLY wont make the 6.1 release

karimsaud21 said:
Reasons:
1. It doesn't compile
2. It doesn't work...
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Umm....
Uhhh....
Do these guys know someone who can code ?
I hope so since those 2 lines coming from someone who CAN code are at best knocks against themselves.
*I coded something that won't compile* = I failed to do what I intended.
*I coded something that doesn't work* = I failed to do what I intended.
I would be ashamed.

christpuncher said:
i'm fine with that. bionix is honestly better than cm was on my g1, and those cm guys are a bunch of assholes. if (mostly) one guy can build a rom from scratch, i don't understand how a whole team can't figure it out.
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Haha.... You think that the bionix ROM came from scratch??? He took eugenes base from the Ftwiz ROM. He even says it in the credits. Not trying to sell the ROM or development short, because it is a great ROM.
All the devs that are tied to the vibrant are trying to reverse engineer the code to get the 2.2 source which samsung has not released. Building 2.2 with out the source code is like building a sky scrapper from the top to the bottom, everything will crash. Where as 2.1 with source is building from ground up, you start from a solid foundation, then work your way up...
Wes also stated to anyone who wanted there money back, they can email him for a refund.

Just give it time. The source for the i9000 froyo was just released; it will come eventually, but development is going to lag behind that for the Nexus One, Dinc, etc. Just be glad we're getting some kind of CM; think of all the other phones that aren't even on the list.
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Kubernetes said:
Just give it time. The source for the i9000 froyo was just released; it will come eventually, but development is going to lag behind that for the Nexus One, Dinc, etc. Just be glad we're getting some kind of CM; think of all the other phones that aren't even on the list.
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Very true!

after reading their various tweets regarding them passing the buck on vibrant development, yes, they're assholes. it was clearly a joke to them because they know it's a huge hassle, so they should have just said it was probably never going to happen. i'm very grateful for the handful of devs that have actually stepped up and made this phone into what it should have been out of the box. it was clear that the cm team never cared in the first place.

Devs and roms...were are they?

This is a great phone IHO..its the best android phone in the market right now....but why is that it seems like no one either has,or devs are not to intrested in showing support for this phone...excluding KMOBS...come on devs weres the love id be willing to donate for cyan to get this phone...anyone else..because right now this forum is pretty sad compared to the G2.

kirkcody said:
This is a great phone IHO..its the best android phone in the market right now....but why is that it seems like no one either has,or devs are not to intrested in showing support for this phone...excluding KMOBS...come on devs weres the love id be willing to donate for cyan to get this phone...anyone else..because right now this forum is pretty sad compared to the G2.
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I used to have a g2 and I gave it up for the mytouch. I'm seriously considering getting my g2 back
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hawaiian.monzta said:
I used to have a g2 and I gave it up for the mytouch. I'm seriously considering getting my g2 back
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Me too.... =/
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The phone is only 12 days old guys. Have some patience.
I'm sure someone in the CM team will get their hands on a MT4G soon. If not, then I'm sure another capable dev will figure out how to port CM6 over to our phone.
Honestly, I'd be down to donate $5 to the CM team along with the OP. We'd just have to hope 88 other MT4G owners will do the same.

http://twitpic.com/35seph

CM6 for the MT4G is already built and bugs are being worked out. (Wifi, Camera, & BT)
Once those things are fixed we should be seeing a RC.

CM is working on a rom...the wiki page has a link for the glacier, there is just nothing on it yet...give him time...

You would be a fool to go back to the wobbly hinge G2 just because they have a ROM. This is a much superior device and they will come. Just be patient.

Some of you guys are being stupidly impatient. You can't expect a bunch of ROM's for a phone that achieved a permanent root just a few days ago.
Development is going fairly quickly anyway. Kmobs of CM already has a working build for the MT4G. That's pretty damn good and since in many ways the G2 is similar to the MT4G, things should go even faster.
Look at the G2 development forum, they've already got the G2 ROM ported to the MT4G. Another example would be VISIONary. It worked for the MT4G before it was even meant to.
Either way, MT4G users have no room to complain. The phone I came from, the Vibrant. It still doesn't have CM or a stock Android 2.2. Even the ROM's it has now took at least a month to perfect.
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kirkcody said:
This is a great phone IHO..its the best android phone in the market right now....but why is that it seems like no one either has,or devs are not to intrested in showing support for this phone...excluding KMOBS...come on devs weres the love id be willing to donate for cyan to get this phone...anyone else..because right now this forum is pretty sad compared to the G2.
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I hope I feel the same about my MyTouch when it gets here Wed (if UPS doesn't reschedule, like they always do). Right now, the Android that all other phones are compared to is the Evo (I have one). But in my town, which has 3 sprint towers... 2 of them have been down for 4 months and I finally gave up and switched to TMO. I hate giving up my Evo (rooted, custom ROm, custom Kernel)... there is so much support for it from software to accessories (I have the 3500 mah battery from Seidio). I'm going to miss all the goodies for the Evo while waiting for all the support to catch up to the MT4G (which it might and might not... we never know how much an individual phone will be supported). I am so surprised how the G2 got supported. Sliding keyboard phones don't usually get that much support because they are so flimsy. Let's hope this MT4G has as much appeal to the developers as it did to us! If I don't like it, I'll have the option of going to ATT sometime in Dec when they finish switching over from Alltel.

lonlawrence said:
I am so surprised how the G2 got supported. Sliding keyboard phones don't usually get that much support because they are so flimsy.
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Unless I'm very much mistaken, it's Cyanogen's new phone, therefore it gets massive CM lovin'. kmobs has the Glacier though, it won't be left out in the cold.
Oh shi-accidental pun.

Wow, these phones didn't come out the same day ppl.

+1 on people being impatient. These guys are working their butts off essentially for free since most people are too cheap to donate. Root ur device, play around, install launcher pro an quit ur *****in'. ROMs will come in due time.
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daewond3r said:
The phone is only 12 days old guys. Have some patience.
I'm sure someone in the CM team will get their hands on a MT4G soon. If not, then I'm sure another capable dev will figure out how to port CM6 over to our phone.
Honestly, I'd be down to donate $5 to the CM team along with the OP. We'd just have to hope 88 other MT4G owners will do the same.
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This is key, We need to show the developers some love here $$$$, Devs will work on devices that produce the highest returns=$$$$, There are so many EVO owners that producing a quality rom will have excellent returns=$$$$, The upside is with the hardware of our devices CM has the potential of creating thier greatest Rom to date. Lets be patient and get a bug free release, Instead of a premature release full with bugs.

30Glock said:
This is key, We need to show the developers some love here $$$$, Devs will work on devices that produce the highest returns=$$$$, There are so many EVO owners that producing a quality rom will have excellent returns=$$$$, The upside is with the hardware of our devices CM has the potential of creating thier greatest Rom to date. Lets be patient and get a bug free release, Instead of a premature release full with bugs.
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I agree.
I will donate $20 for the first ROM that takes full advantage of the MT4G capabilities.

foxdl99 said:
+1 on people being impatient. These guys are working their butts off essentially for free since most people are too cheap to donate. Root ur device, play around, install launcher pro an quit ur *****in'. ROMs will come in due time.
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Word!
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I WASNT *****IN I THINK ALOT OF PEOPLE MISINTERPRETED THE REASON FOR THIS POST..IM NOT BASHING MT4G, JUST TRYING TO GET IT IN THE LIMELIGHT...WHY ARE MOST NOT ALL PEOPLE ON XDA SO OFFENSIVE...MT4G FTW!!!!!!...LOL

i just got my mytouch 4g in the mail, havent turned it on yet because the hardware is still mighty cold, but who do i sue for the fact it isnt rooted with cm6 yet?!?!?!

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http://twitpic.com/35seph
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Is this real?
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Of course. Kmobs been testing it. He says bluetooth and a few other things have to be worked out

MrBobrowitz's CM7 CrackFlasher Builds

Well here we go!
After what I saw today with Protekk (sad to see him go), I am offering up my services and time for building daily builds of CM7 for the Mecha a.k.a, the THUNDERBOLT.
I will try my best, as he did, to have daily builds, but for me it will most likely be nightly only because of my current schedule.
I am currently cleaning out my build environment and re-syncing as I am writing this so hopefully by tonight I can have a build up if not tomorrow
I will be hosting my files from here:
Http://www.onix-android.com/cmcrackflashers (Nothing here yet do not worry)
Here's to the Android Community!
-MrBobrowitz

Not to say that your efforts are useless, but aren't we basically going nowhere without a kernel source? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm really grad that you picked this up if I'm wrong. I'm just wondering if your wasting resources compiling something when we won't have radios until a kernel (like I assume, but can be wrong). In either case, thank you and will be flashing as soon as I see that we can call and text, even if there is no data at all!

You are correct...somewhat.
Since we do not have source (yet) there are some things that will not work as well as they could be. That is not to say we wont get source soon.
HTC is usually pretty good with this.
This thread is also aimed down the line as well, being a crackflasher myself sometimes buildbot will go down and we still want out nightly build

thanks for stepping in.

Well in that case, thank you very much. I have to admit I was a pretty bad/good crackflasher. 3+ builds a day on my inc. I've been hearing that it'll be between 90-120 days from reports and emails coming from HTC regarding the kernel. Hopefully they won't keep holding out on us. I'm eagerly waiting to rip it apart and start patching my own kernels. You have a dedicated flasher as soon as we get that. If I can get vmware running and my dev environment back up I'll help you and compile opposite to you and get more builds out for those that want.

Thanksbfor your efforts dude! I enjoyed your ROMs back in the OG Droid days. Can't wait!

I can't believe the community support this phone is getting
Thanks in advance for your efforts

LTE tech in a first phone attracts some attention
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I can't wait to see sum CM on this beast...I'm glad u stepped up to bring us da goodies! Thank u in advance! And I also remember u from my OF Droid days also....
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Will we have to register to dl these roms?

I agree the support here remarkable.
Thanks for working on this!

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Well in that case, thank you very much. I have to admit I was a pretty bad/good crackflasher. 3+ builds a day on my inc. I've been hearing that it'll be between 90-120 days from reports and emails coming from HTC regarding the kernel. Hopefully they won't keep holding out on us. I'm eagerly waiting to rip it apart and start patching my own kernels. You have a dedicated flasher as soon as we get that. If I can get vmware running and my dev environment back up I'll help you and compile opposite to you and get more builds out for those that want.
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Please, for the love of God take Droid Thunderbolt out of your sig!! Lol, this thing is no Droid, they only come from Motojunk.
Droid = Android
Android =/= Droid

mjones1052 said:
Please, for the love of God take Droid Thunderbolt out of your sig!! Lol, this thing is no Droid, they only come from Motojunk.
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You don't by chance remember that little guy known as the Droid Incredible, do you?
How quickly we forget those phones that once treated us so well...

fronc said:
You don't by chance remember that little guy known as the Droid Incredible, do you?
How quickly we forget those phones that once treated us so well...
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I remember mine quite well. Had it for 3 months and loved it to death. I sold it to my friend as his old clameshell broke, and he really had an eye on my phone. I knew it was well tested, and exactly what he wanted, so I reluctantly upgraded. I still miss it very much, but I know it's in good hands. CM7 can't come fast enough though...

Keep 'em happy! Let me know if you need help with anything, I'm still active in AndIRC.

well htc has 22 days to release the kernel source. so untill then i guess were just having fun and waiting.

fronc said:
You don't by chance remember that little guy known as the Droid Incredible, do you?
How quickly we forget those phones that once treated us so well...
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Or the Droid Eris. A lot of the devs here (jcase and I among them) got their start on the Eris.

It was an actually just an "HTC Incredible". The phone was in no way a droid. Verizon dumped so much advertising into the droid name and it is so well known they only marketed it as a "droid" to boost sales.
Check the box, the phone settings about phone, and the htc website. Verizon is the only place you'll find droidn linked to the icredible
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Do not create teaser threads IE Thread without ROM. PM me when it is uploaded and ready and I will unlock the thread.

Fascinate development, dead?

Update: development is not dead, JT has resurrected it...Cm7 is amazing!
Forgive me if upset a few people with this post, but is it me or has the dev scene for this device died?
I remember the old school days when I had a G1 on T-mobile, we had a new rom practically every other day! I would hate to not to give credit to the amazing devs we have for our devices like JT and company but as of late things seem have died .
I remember a few months back devs were saying, we cant do much because we dont have froyo source...now we do and the scene looks identical. I pruchased this device because of its "raw power" which back in November was unrivaled, but looking at the vibrant forums and the epic there's tons of roms to choose from, VZW gets no love.
Before you guys get upset and some of my remarks, please understand my POV. Lastly, I realize that devs dont get payed to do this and do it as hobby thus I have no reason to complain, so this is just an opinion....let me know if you guys feel the same or not......

There's still a ton of development work, just nothing totally new recently. Everybody seems to be working on what is already there, just fixing and updating and whatnot.
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What we are waiting on now is GB source.... LOL
In short you are pretty much right. Mostly everyone has moved on to bigger and better things. Now that all the spring goodies are coming out there are less people here to develop.
What we are waiting for really is someone to step up to the plate and take over. The devs that we did have provided a great foundation for someone else to work on.
That being said... the phone is still overpriced for what it is and Samsung has provided some practically unusable code to start with, from my understanding at least.

I can see the Vibrant forum being busy, as they have CM7 now, and likely other AOSP and AOSP based ROMs now, plus TW based ROMs. Not sure about the Epic, but I think they have a semi-functional AOSP base as well, and the Nexus S going the Sprint probably helped them out significantly. However, we're stuck basically with what Samsung gave us. The source did help out significantly for kernels, as it gave us something to work from that we didn't have before. However, the platform source did nothing. Also, there are only so many ways you can configure a ROM based on the stock software. If jt and kaos can get the last few pieces of CM7 fixed up, I'm sure you'd see development take off again, but until that happens, or until we get a new release or source, it will likely be semi-stagnant around here.

JT is working on cm7 I assure you. Latest build was today released in irc. Based on .35 kernel. Everything works but radio and sensors. So that's really good work if you ask me. He'll get it up to speed, jt is a very clever Guy.
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JT is working on cm7 I assure you. Latest build was today released in irc. Based on .35 kernel. Everything works but radio and sensors. So that's really good work if you ask me. He'll get it up to speed, jt is a very clever Guy.
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Wait!!!!! As in camera works????

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Wait!!!!! As in camera works????
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Yeah, if camera and MMS work, and he gets the sensors/radio working, the man is a God, a MACHINE. Well, I look forward to that.

Evil fascination came out with a new build today, he is also planning on a bunch of themes for it (2 released already, 5 more to come I think)

well this phone technically is out dated in terms of whats come out since. and we finally have workjng froyo roms which is what all the hype was about. even with home computers you cant keep updating, eventually things dont matching up. just like with these phones. im happy with my fascinate and everything thats been released.
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Evil Fascination had an update tonight. It runs fantastic and the theme is awesome. Im sure the community rom is going to have a nice update soon to.
The devs for this phone have been fantastic, they made this phone worth having even when it seemed like 2.2 would never see the light of day.
After the experience I have had with the fascinate my next phone will for sure be a nexus. Even if it means jumping ship to a different carrier.

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JT is working on cm7 I assure you. Latest build was today released in irc. Based on .35 kernel. Everything works but radio and sensors. So that's really good work if you ask me. He'll get it up to speed, jt is a very clever Guy.
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Anybody know what punkkaos was talking about when he tweeted:
Looks like Coolya and gang have done some nifty kernel stuff for Fascinate users.
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JT and I were talking earlier and it seems like Coolya and the gang helped with some kernel fixes that seemed to have helped a lot. So if all goes well, we SHOULD have official CM7 support coming soon.
If anyone is wondering EVERYTHING is working, including hw/sw codecs, Bluetooth, wifi, etc. As stated before RIL functions and sensors are no worky, but JT said that radio was his messup and should be a quick fix. ;P
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development is relative...we never had a ton of kernels/roms/mods etc because we have a relatively small community
we still have several source built kernels, 2 versions of cm7 (one of which sounds like its advancing nicely) and several touchwiz based roms
if you want to really step back and look at things, we have mods from sbrissen no other phone has (or at least had first as they kang him quickly)...
we have miuiwiz which is a feat never done before (getting miui launcher working on anything but miui)
so for those that just sit around and wait for stuff to be released so they can flash every 5 minutes...too bad...go get a more popular phone so you can flash the kanged rom after kanged rom every day
or you can actually learn to do stuff for yourself like many have

nitsuj17 said:
development is relative...we never had a ton of kernels/roms/mods etc because we have a relatively small community
we still have several source built kernels, 2 versions of cm7 (one of which sounds like its advancing nicely) and several touchwiz based roms
if you want to really step back and look at things, we have mods from sbrissen no other phone has (or at least had first as they kang him quickly)...
we have miuiwiz which is a feat never done before (getting miui launcher working on anything but miui)
so for those that just sit around and wait for stuff to be released so they can flash every 5 minutes...too bad...go get a more popular phone so you can flash the kanged rom after kanged rom every day
or you can actually learn to do stuff for yourself like many have
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^^^^exactly.
If you sit back and enjoy your phone with the new roms when they do come out, waiting for updates and new stuff comes quicker than you realize. Hmmm, I wonder who told me to enjoy what I have a while ago.... and in all honesty, do you really think the fascinate is out dated? My phone STILL runs circles around my bro in laws tbolt. And if anyone questions our devs ability....have you herd of punk kaos? Or jt1134? Or adrynalyn? Or sbrissen? If you are tired of waiting, go back to stock....you will realize what they have done for our phones.

I never once doubted their ability. Like I said in the OP , we a are lucky to have what we got. My point was that things seem to have died down, not sure if its the phone or the lack of interest. Back in november this was androids flagship device, and, I purchased it thinking that with its hardware and our bright developers, it was going to be a beast. I'm proud of the work done but until a fully working aosp like cm7 comes out, I dontt think ill be fascinated. All the touchwiz roms are fine but slow down eventually. Just expressing my opinion fellas.
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youngmack2k4 said:
I never once doubted their ability. Like I said in the OP , we a are lucky to have what we got. My point was that things seem to have died down, not sure if its the phone or the lack of interest. Back in november this was androids flagship device, and, I purchased it thinking that with its hardware and our bright developers, it was going to be a beast. I'm proud of the work done but until a fully working aosp like cm7 comes out, I dontt think ill be fascinated. All the touchwiz roms are fine but slow down eventually. Just expressing my opinion fellas.
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what do you mean "slow down eventually?" ive never noticed this
and was there ever a time when tons of roms/kernels were coming out aside from immediately after an ota/source code drop/leak?

nitsuj17 said:
what do you mean "slow down eventually?" ive never noticed this
and was there ever a time when tons of roms/kernels were coming out aside from immediately after an ota/source code drop/leak?
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@Nitsuj17 this is a classic case of something that all people struggle with: a selfish nature. We, as people, are never really satisfied with anything. I doubt even a FULLY functional CM7/GingerMIUI would please people. It's just our nature. We are insatiable. This is not a flame or an attack of the OP, it's just simply an indictment of all people, myself included. Just my $0.02.
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times_infinity said:
JT and I were talking earlier and it seems like Coolya and the gang helped with some kernel fixes that seemed to have helped a lot. So if all goes well, we SHOULD have official CM7 support coming soon.
If anyone is wondering EVERYTHING is working, including hw/sw codecs, Bluetooth, wifi, etc. As stated before RIL functions and sensors are no worky, but JT said that radio was his messup and should be a quick fix. ;P
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So if he can get the radio working, we can get official CM7 support? JT is the man....

When we all probably switch phones we will still have a beast mp3 player if you ask me.
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just one last thought...as for what is/isnt being worked on and released
jt and pk are still working on cm7 and seem to be getting closer and closer to a very polished product
imnuts and nemesis still work on kernels
com rom and miuiwiz are still being worked...and will have lots of new features when they are out...these things take time though, we could have constant updates or less updates, but of more substance

Samsungs Cheap Stupidity

Now dont get this wrong, but didnt a developer go to Samsung. And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?! I do alot to try to keep up. But I hate cheap excuses. Touchwiz can kiss my ...!!! I can do without. If we can develop it to work here....Thank You Developers and all Members. Why Cant We? We were taught growing up to never give up!! If there is a will there is a way!! Never Give up, Never Surrender!! And so on!!!
So Come on Samsung.......we continue to be your loyal followers!! Give Us One More Gift....A late Christmas Present before letting us go to the SGIII!!!
Thats Alll I ask!! Even if it is Light...I can deal with that!!!

They can't just remove TW and give us ICS. Just wait for CM9.
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Gavisann said:
They can't just remove TW and give us ICS. Just wait for CM9.
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*won't
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I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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Cm7 does not have any TW.
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rootxda said:
Now dont get this wrong, but didnt a developer go to Samsung. And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?! I do alot to try to keep up. But I hate cheap excuses. Touchwiz can kiss my ...!!! I can do without. If we can develop it to work here....Thank You Developers and all Members. Why Cant We? We were taught growing up to never give up!! If there is a will there is a way!! Never Give up, Never Surrender!! And so on!!!
So Come on Samsung.......we continue to be your loyal followers!! Give Us One More Gift....A late Christmas Present before letting us go to the SGIII!!!
Thats Alll I ask!! Even if it is Light...I can deal with that!!!
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Try for a moment to step outside your world and look at things from the other 99% of Epic users; the ones that AREN'T on XDA and spend most of their day doing things other than flashing their phones. Even assuming that ICS works smoothly on the Epic, replacing the current GB rom with a bare stripped ICS rom would look like a downgrade to them with all the Touchwiz functions missing. Maybe some people would like that, but I think it would be a marketing mess to try and explain why they are taking away features with an update.
For those of us who are geeky enough to want a plain ICS rom, stand by for CM9, that will be here much sooner than we would get an official ICS update.

And if I see one more new thread about whether or not we get some stupid upgrade a year from now I am going to throw up all over XDA! Please put all rants in an existing ICS rant and complaints!

Cheer up !
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why worry about phone updates that much ....

You have to understand that Samsung is just lazy about the Epic. We are just recently getting a final Gingerbread build in November and it STILL has memory leaks. They would like Sprint to discontinue them.

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And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?!
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2.2 is working well, but the CM alpha version of 2.3 that was put out for the Moment, ran like crap, and was pretty much dropped as the devs moved on. I HIGHLY doubt that any version of ICS will run on the Samsung Moment in a decent manner
Not that I dont wish it would, just having modded the Samsung Moment for a couple years now, IMO it just doenst have enough internal space or processing power for a full blown ICS build.
Now the Epic has enough of both, if the partitions are resized, but I highly doubt that Samsung will take that route.
IMO, the only way the Epic will see ICS is with CM9. Thankfully, I feel there is a very good chance CM9 will be developed and released at some point by the CM development team

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masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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OK there is some confusion here...
1. He was wrong with "can't," Samsung could remove touchwiz entirely from our phone, and put AOSP Ics, with our hardware drivers that they have access too. HTC has already done this by removing sense from a phone, so it could get gingerbread.
2. As long as there is a tutorial, any user can get used to a new ui.
3. Our phone(nor any gs phone) does not need any touchwiz at all in CM. We have to use some Samsung proprietary files, cause we cant change them.
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Maybe Samsung should just release a non TW version of ICS, but not have it as an OTA download. Those that want it would have to download it manually from a website and then use the "Odin for Dumbies" method of flashing ala the EB13 download that walked a person step by step on flashing the phone which would wipe the whole phone and install EB13.
That way the 99% of users who don't tinker with there phones would still have TW and GB on their phones and be happy with it, while the few that want ICS would get it as well.

adelmundo said:
Maybe Samsung should just release a non TW version of ICS, but not have it as an OTA download. Those that want it would have to download it manually from a website and then use the "Odin for Dumbies" method of flashing ala the EB13 download that walked a person step by step on flashing the phone which would wipe the whole phone and install EB13.
That way the 99% of users who don't tinker with there phones would still have TW and GB on their phones and be happy with it, while the few that want ICS would get it as well.
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Yes but its not worth the time and money for them to do that. Especially when CM9 does it for free. In my opinion, the smartest thing for them to do would be to supply the Samsung CM maintainers with the necessary drivers and sources to easily get CM9 running perfectly. Doesnt cost any money or much time and at the end of the day, the people who care are happy.

masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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So, every Epic owner who doesn't use XDA also can't handle the transition to a new UI? Not one of those several hundred users has ever had a previous phone, especially not one made by HTC or any of the several other android phone manufacturers, or a Blackberry or iPhone? If that's the case, how did I miss the rioting when Sprint released the first update to Froyo? Or GB? (The UI changed with both of those upgrades, remember?)
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And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!!
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Overpopulation must have really gotten out of control without my noticing - the last time I checked, this entire planet has a finite (in other words, limited) population...
I personally don't have a Moment, so the absolute maximum number of people (the limit, if you will) is already guaranteed to be [world population - 1] at the most (assuming every man, woman and child has a Moment except me)
So, what was that about stupidity?
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im sure he meant "a limited" not unlimited.

austin420 said:
im sure he meant "a limited" not unlimited.
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That would directly contradict the point he tried to make by using that statement - that development is still rolling on the Moment. If there were limited users in this case (since we know that there is always a limit to the number, actually stating it implies a very limited number), then that would be an argument in favor of slowing or halting development on that device due to a dwindling user base
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It reads to me that the thought he is trying to convey is, "why does the moment (with such a limited user base) already have people (not samsung) working on ics and cm9 and we dont (with many more people currently using the epic)?".
I'm not sure though. The op need some grammer training and a better spellchecker.
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MysteryEmotionz said:
http://t.co/Re0TMQvd
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interesting ...

austin420 said:
It reads to me that the thought he is trying to convey is, "why does the moment (with such a limited user base) already have people (not samsung) working on ics and cm9 and we dont (with many more people currently using the epic)?".
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Nicely reworded.
That said, anyone know of a link to any sort of ICS and/or CM9 in any state for the Moment?