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My nexus 10 getting warm from only web browsing.

My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.

benzs129 said:
My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.
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If it's only getting hot with certain apps or content, it's probably those apps or content stressing your device, not the device being defective. This CPU does get a bit hot sometimes. I don't know if all ARM CPUs are like this, or just the ones I have.
I suggest you install the Battery Widget app by Elvison, so that you can see how hot Android says the CPU is getting when you do these things. We can then compare temperatures, if you also note the background temperature in your town when you are testing, so we can compare how much hotter the device gets from the baseline background temperature. I have gotten my HTC One X+ to report a temperature of 60 degrees C when playing a lot of HD video, but while my Nexus 10 gets somewhat hot, it never gets that hot. :fingers-crossed:

benzs129 said:
My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.
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Hi, that is perfectly normal. What a lot of people don't know is that web rendering is one/if not the most CPU intensive ask you'll do on your tablet. So for it to get warm at the back after several minutes stressing the CPU out from web rendering is not bad at all. It's nothing to worry about, every phone/ tablet does this. Hope this helps

Plus the wifi chip dumps out a lot of heat just by itself, even if it isnt even being used very hard.

EniGmA1987 said:
Plus the wifi chip dumps out a lot of heat just by itself, even if it isnt even being used very hard.
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The wifi combo chips don't draw a lot of power, and usually go into a low-power idle mode for even less draw (already just a few milliwatts max)...
(Giving benefit of doubt because N10 has dual MIMO fancy chip. Might draw a bit more. Still feels wrong, though.)
Are you sure?

Yep I am very sure. If I leave the wifi on when I play a game I will hit thermal throttling WAY faster than with it off, and the tablet feels much warmer overall as well. Turning wifi off and doing the same thing lowers the reported temperatures by around 5-6 degrees Celsius.

believe it or not it probably chrome... i had the same issue with my nexus 4.... try using boat browser or something else lightweight and see if that changes anything

EniGmA1987 said:
Yep I am very sure. If I leave the wifi on when I play a game I will hit thermal throttling WAY faster than with it off, and the tablet feels much warmer overall as well. Turning wifi off and doing the same thing lowers the reported temperatures by around 5-6 degrees Celsius.
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Right, but the correlation between heat reducing with wifi off doesn't mean the wifi chip itself is the source of the heat. It could just as easily be that having wifi on allows background processes to connect to the network, and their use of the CPU increases load, thus heat.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that assuming cause from correlation is tricky.
Should be easy to resolve for someone with a laser thermometer.

Another thought: Display brightness is directly related to a fair amount of heat output. Maybe you changed that setting.

[Q] How is gaming performance and does it get hot?

I'm asking about how this phone scores with graphic intensive games and whether it gets hot(after a certain duration) while playing such games. Is thermal throttling really an issue or is it a faulty unit thing? Supposedly getting mine today, so I need to know.

I've been playing zombie gunship and dots all day...both absolutely destroy my battery life but it dies not get that warm, at least no throttling. Maybe more demanding games will hurt....really missing my n4 and Franco kernels per app CPU speed

Got it
I've just bought it and used it for a little while downloading stuff and it got a little warm.. hmm

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I've just bought it and used it for a little while downloading stuff and it got a little warm.. hmm
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The first day and a half after getting this device out of the box it got kinda warm in the back, not on the screen though. After that period of time though i havent had a problem with heat so maybe it has something to do with being a new device out of the box? Now it stays cool and just gets a little warm here and there, not much though, but it seems normal.

Please, someone, point out a device that is quad core even running max speeds of just 1.5ghz and does not get hot after 20+min of graphics intense gaming with no breaks. Anyone? That's what i thought, people should try to understand this before complaining. This device is i believe 2.4ghz in speed with quad core snap dragon 800. My HTC One X+ with Tegra 3 chip "made for gaming" only allows me to play a graphics intense game like dead trigger for 20min then the device shuts down! Yes it shuts down because the device gets too hot for itself, blinks red notification light, then a minute or so later shuts itself off so it doesn't blow up.
Mobile gaming has come a long way for sure. Mobile gaming hardware wise has not, obviously! Sure this device could probably play Diablo 3 with 50 FPS but for maybe only 20min before it gets red hot! I think cellphone compaines should address this and make the devices available to "breath" just like a PC machine would. Sure we can't have a "fan" in these devices to cool them off but when you're running a quad core device on 2.4ghz of speed that's practically a damn laptop! Now imagine that laptop running full bore with zero fan to cool it down and zero ventilation. How long could u run that laptop under those conditions before it gets way too hot???

Gaming is AMAZING on this screen is good , the gpu has power to drive whatever.
MC4 actually runs buttery smooth , something my s3 couldnt do.

Riptide GP2 plays beautifully with the graphics all set to high. The water effects look sick
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Major issue with OnePlus 2 Throttling

Quick question if possible.
After about 5 minutes of play in all 3D games it looks like device starting to Throttle. All games loose FPS and become unplayable. I mean Order and Chaos 2 , after about 5 mins I am getting like 7 FPS. Unacceptable.
Now here is the question. IS there anyway to combat that I mean force CPU to be on specific clock or may be lover clock so it's not 100% but not 35% when CPU goes to safe mode.
Anyone ?

Also another thing. Help me understand something. All tests I do like 3DMark ot AnTuTu I am getting great results. Like in AnTuTu 5.7.1 I am getting 63059 and that an amazing result but once inside the game like I said before I clearly see game run just fine and then slowing down BIG time. Yet in let's say 3DMark I see temperature holing at steady 43C for all duration of the test.
May be I am expecting something that does not exist but I had OPO and I had better and smoother experience with games.
So with that I have a question. Is there a tool that will basically simulate 3D game play and will show on the screen in real time temperature, clock speed of CPU/GPU so I can see what is happening (beside 3D mark that showing nice graphs after) cause I feel I am going crazy. How tests showing me one thing yet in real life it's complete different experience. I need to know why games are slowing down.
Also as we know next Nexus 6P will have 810 v2.1 with diffirent clock speed just a bit. So clearly QualComm fixed overheating issue otherwise Google never would of put it in. So yeah, I am confused.

I guess people are also clueless.

Let's just wait and see. Hopefully if anything was optimized in 6P, it could be patched over by devs or OnePlus will path themselves in the near future
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Nexus 6P Become Warm

Dear All,
I have Nexus 6p 32 G Graphite,
When my Normal use like browsing ,watching you tube, and Facebook .... etc , I noticed the device become warm especially the spot between camera and fingerprint sensor I used cpu temp to read the cpu and battery temperature :
-Normal use (for 10 minutes)
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cpu : 35 - 46 Celsius (98.6 - 114.8 Fahrenheit )
battery : 35 Celsius (95 Fahrenheit )
- During play games with high graphics (like NEED FOR SPEED No Limits ) temp were:
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cpu : 55 - 69 Celsius (131 - 156.2 Fahrenheit )
battery : 39 Celsius (102.2 Fahrenheit )
DO I need to replace my device ?
Any suggestion
Thanks in advance

Doubt it, processors get warm fact, remember u have apps running in the back ground too, end them all and try again, will probably cool down

seems like a perfectly normal device. it's a metal body so you probably feel more warmth from the processor working hard. this phone showed lowest temperature among other SD810 processor equipped devices. you can search on youtube for temperature test. there are some comparison videos as well. you'll enjoy it.

Kickasskev said:
Doubt it, processors get warm fact, remember u have apps running in the back ground too, end them all and try again, will probably cool down
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Thank for quick reply ....no apps running background during played the game , also for normal used was just two app was ruining in the background , and I was concern with normal use cpu temp , Is it high or not ?
I just need to know if this is normal for my device or all the nexus devices have these read for temp

sharpehenry said:
seems like a perfectly normal device. it's a metal body so you probably feel more warmth from the processor working hard. this phone showed lowest temperature among other SD810 processor equipped devices. you can search on youtube for temperature test. there are some comparison videos as well. you'll enjoy it.
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I am agree with you in this point , my brother has S6 Edge , I played the same game in his device the temp was also the same but was not warm like mine , I tried to get theses videos do u have the links and posted it , I will be very grateful .

Troy2015 said:
I am agree with you in this point , my brother has S6 Edge , I played the same game in his device the temp was also the same but was not warm like mine , I tried to get theses videos do u have the links and posted it , I will be very grateful .
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sorry for the late reply, was little busy at the moment.
here is an article about it: http://www.androidcentral.com/does-nexus-6p-get-hot
I don't really enjoy his videos much he's done some work on Nexus 6P as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj7qtJZBIGU
I wish I could find some more for you but you can start from here. related videos will pop up on the side and stuff.

my nexus 6p become heat
Thanks for the information, according to this part of article my nexus 6p is not running normal with the heat
"The Nexus 6P immediately jumped to 102 degrees when the benchmark started, but never got above 104.5 degrees during the benchmark. At this point you could feel the fingerprint sensor area was a little warm, but the rest of the phone was still plenty comfortable to hold. Running the benchmark again saw the temperature climb to 106 degrees, but never any higher and at no point did the phone give any thermal warnings"

My opinion about the Z1.

It's been a long time since I held a Sony mobile device.
My psvita looks like a joke compared to it.
The speed and features are stunning and the battery life is not bad at all.
The whole out side body is sturdy and i love the device.
Well done Sony.
Won't be rooting it, wont be modding it for a long time.
Will be looking forward to have more devices from the Z series in my hand.

Compared with ps vita?
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Rly dude?

odie70 said:
Compared with ps vita?
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Compared to several devices i have held and modded.
So far my Z1 is a damn fine device.
If I could run my vita games on her "and yes she has the power" I would.
I know, I know everyone is expecting me to burst out with "what a pile of **** ***** and ****** ** The * *********"
nope i love this device.

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No i'm lying.. pfft.
XD you cannot troll the troll.
On a serious note it's a awesome device.
I just want the textures fixed for doom 3.
:edit and that seems to be fixed after the 5.1.1 update.

I'm very curious about how to made such a perfect FW like this. When I use my Z1, I find it seems to be made by computer like CM buildbot. I guess it's japanese style.
They should know how to google at least.

PielunA said:
I'm very curious about how to made such a perfect FW like this. When I use my Z1, I find it seems to be made by computer like CM buildbot. I guess it's japanese style.
They should know how to google at least.
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I think they spent a lot of time looking at fine detail and features.
I personally wish i could select a much darker theme.
But yeah Sony has always been good at making stuff look sexy.

I'm using a z1 right now the only thing I am not satisfied with is the battery life

Ohhdayumm said:
I'm using a z1 right now the only thing I am not satisfied with is the battery life
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I think the chip is clocked way too high to keep cool and be power efficient unfortunately.
The 3G, LTE radio is set way too fast and this adds more drain and heat.
So in fact the device is cooking itself to death just like the x10 did.

OmegaRED^ said:
I think the chip is clocked way too high to keep cool and be power efficient unfortunately.
The 3G, LTE radio is set way too fast and this adds more drain and heat.
So in fact the device is cooking itself to death just like the x10 did.
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Yea you are right my phone heats up while using data very quickly and the battery drains

Ohhdayumm said:
Yea you are right my phone heats up while using data very quickly and the battery drains
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They could pull down the speed on the 3G/LTE radio more.
As over 1MB a sec is overkill.
And i think this will be the thing that makes me root and drop in a custom kernel.
:edit
So yeah I suggest adding a 3G/LTE speed limiter in future builds for the phone.

Z1 is one of the best devices in the market

OmegaRED^ said:
They could pull down the speed on the 3G/LTE radio more.
As over 1MB a sec is overkill.
And i think this will be the thing that makes me root and drop in a custom kernel.
:edit
So yeah I suggest adding a 3G/LTE speed limiter in future builds for the phone.
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Cant relate to it. My Z1 is around 25 degrees in standby (battery) and CPU less than 40 degrees with ambient temp of 20-22 degrees. All power saving functions disabled and no queue for data. With use battery is 30-35 seldom reaches 40 and CPU between 45 and 60 depending on work. It's even less when on 4G instead of 4G + WiFi. I also got tons of background services running constantly like Adguard Premium (high quality for all apps filtering), KIS Security checking all connections and all file operations, Whatsapp, KiK, Messenger, Dumpster, GSAM monitor, ACR, Apex Launcher, AppLock, Clipper+, Gmail, Gravity Screen (proximity auto lock/unlock for flipcover), Greenify, HeadsOff, Notifyer+, TrueCaller, Type Machine, Weather Timeline, KCAL LCD calibrator and more.
Screen brightness 40-45%, sound enhancements on, X-Reality off, SOT around 4 hours (includes around 50 photos captured, photo editing on mobile and more).
Only time ever it heats to the battery to 45 degrees and CPU to 70-72 degrees is when clearing dalvik cache and it rebuilds it at boot (ambient temp 25).

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Cant relate to it. My Z1 is around 25 degrees in standby (battery) and CPU less than 40 degrees with ambient temp of 20-22 degrees. All power saving functions disabled and no queue for data. With use battery is 30-35 seldom reaches 40 and CPU between 45 and 60 depending on work. It's even less when on 4G instead of 4G + WiFi. I also got tons of background services running constantly like Adguard Premium (high quality for all apps filtering), KIS Security checking all connections and all file operations, Whatsapp, KiK, Messenger, Dumpster, GSAM monitor, ACR, Apex Launcher, AppLock, Clipper+, Gmail, Gravity Screen (proximity auto lock/unlock for flipcover), Greenify, HeadsOff, Notifyer+, TrueCaller, Type Machine, Weather Timeline, KCAL LCD calibrator and more.
Screen brightness 40-45%, sound enhancements on, X-Reality off, SOT around 4 hours (includes around 50 photos captured, photo editing on mobile and more).
Only time ever it heats to the battery to 45 degrees and CPU to 70-72 degrees is when clearing dalvik cache and it rebuilds it at boot (ambient temp 25).
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4G seems less problematic than 3G.
Low signal also effects heat.
Try playing Nova 3.
The phone turns into a nuclear reactor.

Yeah.. Now i am raging..
This phone is a cancer to unlock... Its a pain to figure out what roms will work and a total witch to fine tune. My s4mini took 1 day to get on a fully stable custom rom.
Idk wtf sony is thinking.. The cpu clock is way to high and the heat output is brutal.
Not everyone lives in a liquid nitrogen jar.
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You live in the djungle or? How hot is the weather Tarzan?

EQ2000 said:
You live in the djungle or? How hot is the weather Tarzan?
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Its about 25 to 30*c ambiently normally.
Plus with the increase in heat from global warming i see a sad future ahead for mobile chip developers.
My sgs4 mini never overheated this badly even when clocked to 2GHz
Im hoping that there is something i can do like disable 2 of the cores or drop the clock a bit once i finally get it properly on a custom rom else me and this device are going to be tough on each other.
My X10i also bloody overheated like this when downloading over 3G or gaming heavy stuff it drove me insane.

OmegaRED^ said:
Its about 25 to 30*c ambiently normally.
Plus with the increase in heat from global warming i see a sad future ahead for mobile chip developers.
My sgs4 mini never overheated this badly even when clocked to 2GHz
Im hoping that there is something i can do like disable 2 of the cores or drop the clock a bit once i finally get it properly on a custom rom else me and this device are going to be tough on each other.
My X10i also bloody overheated like this when downloading over 3G or gaming heavy stuff it drove me insane.
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Well I do agree they are putting in and/or clocking CPUs at such levels the heat dissipation aint really adequate and thus makes phones throttle CPU/GPU. Just look at early SD810 equipped mobiles. They IRL with random above normal workload performed worse than A SD800 equipped phone due to constantly throttling creating hitches. They design thermal dissipation to just be enough for benchmarks (where many are worthless and or easy to cheat 'legally'). Few mobiles you can run at 100% CPU and GPU load without them throttling at some point, earlier or later. Though the Z1 has quite good thermal characteristics and throttling should seldom if ever happen unless something is locking the CPU and GPU to 100% for prolonged periods.
For normal use, movies 4k, Youtube it is far from reaching throttling levels. Games I cant comment since I dont play on my mobile. Not interested and my opinion is almost all games are coded in a ****ty way using unecessary resources and the fact you cant even chose render resolution ingame is ridicolous. A game like Prey for PC would be perfectly doable on the SD800 at 1080 yet no Android game even comes close to such visuals.

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Well I do agree they are putting in and/or clocking CPUs at such levels the heat dissipation aint really adequate and thus makes phones throttle CPU/GPU. Just look at early SD810 equipped mobiles. They IRL with random above normal workload performed worse than A SD800 equipped phone due to constantly throttling creating hitches. They design thermal dissipation to just be enough for benchmarks (where many are worthless and or easy to cheat 'legally'). Few mobiles you can run at 100% CPU and GPU load without them throttling at some point, earlier or later. Though the Z1 has quite good thermal characteristics and throttling should seldom if ever happen unless something is locking the CPU and GPU to 100% for prolonged periods.
For normal use, movies 4k, Youtube it is far from reaching throttling levels. Games I cant comment since I dont play on my mobile. Not interested and my opinion is almost all games are coded in a ****ty way using unecessary resources and the fact you cant even chose render resolution ingame is ridicolous. A game like Prey for PC would be perfectly doable on the SD800 at 1080 yet no Android game even comes close to such visuals.
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Im a gamer that often ends up putting a device thru the acid test via extended gaming.
The heat generated in the Z1 is not good and could easily damage the hardware over time.
Now this concerns me as a device that can run games should not just be able to do this for demo purposes alone... Thats cheating. Sacrificing stability and device life expectancy for a mere chart topping benchmark score or to merely capture the eye of a consumer. Thats cheating and not a welcome trait.
Losing my respect for sony again.
The fact that the psvita was canned so early too.
It's not funny. Nova 3, neon shadow, all use unity.
Doom3 using Diii4A for example is nearly the same engine used for prey and the game runs flawlessly on the sd800 but the heat... Even when lowering the quality brutally the throttle on the cpu is too high. Nova 3 sadly has no quality settings so the 1080p resolution brings brutal overheating.

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Im a gamer that often ends up putting a device thru the acid test via extended gaming.
The heat generated in the Z1 is not good and could easily damage the hardware over time.
Now this concerns me as a device that can run games should not just be able to do this for demo purposes alone... Thats cheating. Sacrificing stability and device life expectancy for a mere chart topping benchmark score or to merely capture the eye of a consumer. Thats cheating and not a welcome trait.
Losing my respect for sony again.
The fact that the psvita was canned so early too.
It's not funny. Nova 3, neon shadow, all use unity.
Doom3 using Diii4A for example is nearly the same engine used for prey and the game runs flawlessly on the sd800 but the heat... Even when lowering the quality brutally the throttle on the cpu is too high. Nova 3 sadly has no quality settings so the 1080p resolution brings brutal overheating.
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Well pretty much all brands have phones that throttle early even the Iphone. If anything Sony phones are those that take the longest time to throttle due to relatively good design, aluminium besel and rigid 'heatsink' plate. Though it varies depending on SoC.