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I just found a benchmark (antutu) of the dev console while I was browsing the web and the CPU looks pretty decent, but sadly the gpu was left untested. (Link to this person's Imgur: http://imgur.com/a/4welz )
It scores about the same as the infinity though, so nothing really impressive.
Infinity scores: http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=126
It's somewhat disappointing that they couldn't up the clock speed a bit more considering it has fan and no power restraints, but perhaps the tegra 3 doesn't perform well at those speeds.

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Good find looks like we are going to have quite the decent system on our hands

Hope they do a revision with tegra 5 or with sgx next time around.
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Yeah, I just don't see the incentive to buy if it doesn't perform better than a smartphone. I feel like that majority of their market will already have a phone or tablet that performs similar to or better than this. Hopefully the gpu is overclocked because if it isn't than I see almost no reason for having a fan and heat sink Lol, perhaps it will come in handy with overclocking later.

tcb4 said:
Yeah, I just don't see the incentive to buy if it doesn't perform better than a smartphone. I feel like that majority of their market will already have a phone or tablet that performs similar to or better than this. Hopefully the gpu is overclocked because if it isn't than I see almost no reason for having a fan and heat sink Lol, perhaps it will come in handy with overclocking later.
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If you already have a fast smartphone or tablet you'd be better off getting a controller like the Moga Pro, sixaxis, or similar instead and taht HDMI cable. This thing is very cheap so it may be worth it for those that want a portable emulator.

I have noticed that watching games like Need for Speed Most Wanted and Deadtrigger the games are not as smooth as on my Excite 7.7, TF300 or even the GS3 (Dual Snap version). I thought it was a Youtube frame rate issue, but notice the lack of smoothness with all 3D game videos I have seen when compared to my other devices. Is this an output issue to larger displays? Seems it would not be, but must be some reason. I output the Excite via HDMI and as smooth as on the device display.
Ironic Need for Speed is a game being shown, since that one game takes up one third of the storage space (It is 2GB counting user data).

My nexus 10 getting warm from only web browsing.

My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.

benzs129 said:
My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.
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If it's only getting hot with certain apps or content, it's probably those apps or content stressing your device, not the device being defective. This CPU does get a bit hot sometimes. I don't know if all ARM CPUs are like this, or just the ones I have.
I suggest you install the Battery Widget app by Elvison, so that you can see how hot Android says the CPU is getting when you do these things. We can then compare temperatures, if you also note the background temperature in your town when you are testing, so we can compare how much hotter the device gets from the baseline background temperature. I have gotten my HTC One X+ to report a temperature of 60 degrees C when playing a lot of HD video, but while my Nexus 10 gets somewhat hot, it never gets that hot. :fingers-crossed:

benzs129 said:
My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.
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Hi, that is perfectly normal. What a lot of people don't know is that web rendering is one/if not the most CPU intensive ask you'll do on your tablet. So for it to get warm at the back after several minutes stressing the CPU out from web rendering is not bad at all. It's nothing to worry about, every phone/ tablet does this. Hope this helps

Plus the wifi chip dumps out a lot of heat just by itself, even if it isnt even being used very hard.

EniGmA1987 said:
Plus the wifi chip dumps out a lot of heat just by itself, even if it isnt even being used very hard.
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The wifi combo chips don't draw a lot of power, and usually go into a low-power idle mode for even less draw (already just a few milliwatts max)...
(Giving benefit of doubt because N10 has dual MIMO fancy chip. Might draw a bit more. Still feels wrong, though.)
Are you sure?

Yep I am very sure. If I leave the wifi on when I play a game I will hit thermal throttling WAY faster than with it off, and the tablet feels much warmer overall as well. Turning wifi off and doing the same thing lowers the reported temperatures by around 5-6 degrees Celsius.

believe it or not it probably chrome... i had the same issue with my nexus 4.... try using boat browser or something else lightweight and see if that changes anything

EniGmA1987 said:
Yep I am very sure. If I leave the wifi on when I play a game I will hit thermal throttling WAY faster than with it off, and the tablet feels much warmer overall as well. Turning wifi off and doing the same thing lowers the reported temperatures by around 5-6 degrees Celsius.
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Right, but the correlation between heat reducing with wifi off doesn't mean the wifi chip itself is the source of the heat. It could just as easily be that having wifi on allows background processes to connect to the network, and their use of the CPU increases load, thus heat.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that assuming cause from correlation is tricky.
Should be easy to resolve for someone with a laser thermometer.

Another thought: Display brightness is directly related to a fair amount of heat output. Maybe you changed that setting.

THER!AL THROTTLING Issue

Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)

bruce2662 said:
Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
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Lol, afaik doesnt throttle at 50c

bruce2662 said:
Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
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I have an LTE shield and although I have two other phones that are unlocked and rooted,this time i decided that i would keep this device standard and i have to say, I do not,repeat,do not, have any lag or thermal throttling issues that you speak of?? not sure what changes you've made to yours but up to now I have had only a great experience with this tablet absolutely great, gaming has been brilliant.a great piece of kit,i was going to buy a nexus 9 but after reading all the negative reviews i'm glad I chose this instead and it turned into a right hassle trying to get the nexus,anyhow cancelled and very pleased I did now-faultless in my eyes.I run both real racing two and three and a few other high end games and have only praise for the experience,don't know why you are having the problems you write about.but just sharing my experience. cheers

bruce2662 said:
Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
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Sorry but i'm yet to find a way to make my shield tablet throttling I can play GTA or doom3 settings maxed out with shield CPU set to max performance for two hours without making it throttle.

Something wrong with the OPs tablet. The Shield Tablet thermal behaviour is impeccable, see the Anandtech review. Like the other posters I get no throttling.

bruce2662 said:
Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
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Which roms ?

Have the European Lte version running on complete stock Lollipop. This thing is awesome, no lags or freezes. All Games are running great and i didn't notice any throttle until now, btw. i played Half Life 2 for about 4 hours on max performance settings while charging!

I also do not get throttling. It has only heated up once on me after being in recovery for a while. Standard use the thing isn't even warm to the touch. Either something is keeping your cpu at max freq or your tab is indeed defective.

bruce2662 said:
Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
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This is a Shield tablet not a MiPad or a Nexus 9,
on my side i never noticed throttling no matter what game i played (on or off AC power ) but i am on a pure stock 5.0 (why change the perfection when everythings works fine?)
Real Racing3 temps 62-66°c average no throttle,
4hrs of Kritika 68° at max,
rendering a 5 minutes scene in loop for 2hrs with Music Girl (variable physics, accuracy set on 1/180, textures max) 75°
(never got past 75° even in Antutu 3DMark or any benchmark)

OP seems to be a troll, he posted the same at the z3c forums

No throttling here either, I use system monitor to verify that easy enough.
I've twenty odd games installed, HL,HLP1,Portal, RR3, MC4, MC5, damn maybe too many lol.
No throttling, considering that the metal frame is a kind of heat sink the way the tablet is built is no surprise, what is though is someone blaming throttling for stutter especially on RR3, its a mild game, perhaps their tablet is not so well set up, poor memory card, Facebook who knows.
Could be as suggested someone trolling.
WR

WarRaven said:
[...] Facebook who knows.
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Laughed way too hard at this, although sadly you're right.
That thermal throttling is definitely a problem with your device OP. Talk to NVIDIA about it, see if they'll do an RMA.

After reading he is having other issues like laggy rotation and stuff, I believe him.
Though, like above, it's not normal per this tablet and I bet it's something gone bad on install or no hard reset after upgrade.
It's worth investigating for sure.
My money is always on Facebook though, dirty dirty app.
WR

Major issue with OnePlus 2 Throttling

Quick question if possible.
After about 5 minutes of play in all 3D games it looks like device starting to Throttle. All games loose FPS and become unplayable. I mean Order and Chaos 2 , after about 5 mins I am getting like 7 FPS. Unacceptable.
Now here is the question. IS there anyway to combat that I mean force CPU to be on specific clock or may be lover clock so it's not 100% but not 35% when CPU goes to safe mode.
Anyone ?

Also another thing. Help me understand something. All tests I do like 3DMark ot AnTuTu I am getting great results. Like in AnTuTu 5.7.1 I am getting 63059 and that an amazing result but once inside the game like I said before I clearly see game run just fine and then slowing down BIG time. Yet in let's say 3DMark I see temperature holing at steady 43C for all duration of the test.
May be I am expecting something that does not exist but I had OPO and I had better and smoother experience with games.
So with that I have a question. Is there a tool that will basically simulate 3D game play and will show on the screen in real time temperature, clock speed of CPU/GPU so I can see what is happening (beside 3D mark that showing nice graphs after) cause I feel I am going crazy. How tests showing me one thing yet in real life it's complete different experience. I need to know why games are slowing down.
Also as we know next Nexus 6P will have 810 v2.1 with diffirent clock speed just a bit. So clearly QualComm fixed overheating issue otherwise Google never would of put it in. So yeah, I am confused.

I guess people are also clueless.

Let's just wait and see. Hopefully if anything was optimized in 6P, it could be patched over by devs or OnePlus will path themselves in the near future
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Sony Z5 Snapdragon 810 SoC Temperature heat map - heatpipe test - video

Hello friends,
I did a quick test video created about overheating
In this video are runs two benchmark test (first antutu and later Geekbench3)
in the attachment is a screenshot of the temperature profile, I had a maximum of 80 degrees in this test.
is this now too hot for a smartphone ? What is your opinion on it?

Surface temp didn't exceed 43C? That's pretty good. As far as the internal SoC temp goes, 70-80C can happen on any phone. Here's a 4K test on S6. It hit >70C after 5 minutes of 4K shooting.

schecter7 said:
Surface temp didn't exceed 43C?
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in my 5min test goes the temp not over 44C, I can test the week continue ,to increase temp

The fact people on here states it gets noticeably warm doing basic tasks eg web browsing its alarming for me mostly.
I guess the 820 on 14nm will help, from what I've seen the S6 can remain relatively cool after running benchmarks.

Based on my experience:
- doesn't get warm / hot when doing browsing, facebook, other lightweight apps.
- easy to get warm (but NOT hot) when using camera, playing intensive games (e.g. Hearthstone, Asphalt) and viewing media
- only gets HOT when recording 4K video for a long time (but other people are exaggerating .. it doesn't get too hot for me to hold, experienced practically the same for my Z1)
All in all, isn't really a huge deal breaker for me. Some people just take it way out of context because of the SnapDragon 810 issues from before.

bloodfire1004 said:
Based on my experience:
- doesn't get warm / hot when doing browsing, facebook, other lightweight apps.
- easy to get warm (but NOT hot) when using camera, playing intensive games (e.g. Hearthstone, Asphalt) and viewing media
- only gets HOT when recording 4K video for a long time (but other people are exaggerating .. it doesn't get too hot for me to hold, experienced practically the same for my Z1)
All in all, isn't really a huge deal breaker for me. Some people just take it way out of context because of the SnapDragon 810 issues from before.
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My experience is, is hot when doing browsing , at 4k recording (5min) it is normally warm.
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I can this week to create a new video in which I reproduce this: 4K recording, playing games and browsing.
if you have something which make temperature trouble, please let me know

King p1n said:
The fact people on here states it gets noticeably warm doing basic tasks eg web browsing its alarming for me mostly.
I guess the 820 on 14nm will help, from what I've seen the S6 can remain relatively cool after running benchmarks.
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It doesn't get warm during web browsing. Where did you get that bit of random fud?

Dunno how much 3DMark stresses the phone but mine only got mildly hot after running a few suites, and that was just after running another Unigine based bench.