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I have no idea where this should be posted, but since I have a Vibrant, and I know there is a lot of development going on with that platform, I figured I may as well post it here. I actually suggested this in the Bionix thread, but it got buried in all the other chatter pretty quickly. Hence, the reason for this post.
I think it would be great if the active devs here had read-only forums where they could post updates on their development efforts. That way people (non-devs mostly) could subscribe to those threads and get notifications whenever they post something. The ROM threads get so big so fast, it is hard to keep up without reading them several times a day (heck, several times an hour!).
This would require the admins here to set up the forum and grant editing rights to the active devs. Then a process would have to be developed to decide when new devs could be added to the list. In my mind, the way I envision this working is there would be one forum (call it "Developer's Corner" or something like that) and in it would be different threads for each development project. You subscribe to the threads that interest you and BAM, you are getting notifications from the forum when the devs post something there.
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Devs rely on users to post bugs so they can fix them. How would this be possible with such a system?
...by sending bugs via PM to the dev?
ronin4740 said:
...by sending bugs via PM to the dev?
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Why would you do that? Just use bug tracker on Google projects, it is far more organized e.g. http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
The idea of a read-only forum is just awful. If you want to follow the developer's progress then follow them on Twitter. You don't have to read every post, use the search functionality WITHIN that thread to search only in that thread to look for what you desire to find.
The real solution is to post a separate thread for each release. That way you know that everything in that thread is pertinent to that release and aren't looking through old replies that don't even matter anymore.
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Devs rely on users to post bugs so they can fix them. How would this be possible with such a system?
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There would still be open forums (the ones that already exist) in which people will be able to post questions, bugs, etc.
zephiK said:
Why would you do that? Just use bug tracker on Google projects, it is far more organized e.g. http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
The idea of a read-only forum is just awful. If you want to follow the developer's progress then follow them on Twitter. You don't have to read every post, use the search functionality WITHIN that thread to search only in that thread to look for what you desire to find.
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I didn't know anyone here was using the G bug tracker. That is a good idea.
As for using twitter, I am sad to admit that while I use twitter, I hadn't thought of following the devs there. I will take care of that today.
kangxi said:
The real solution is to post a separate thread for each release. That way you know that everything in that thread is pertinent to that release and aren't looking through old replies that don't even matter anymore.
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This is also a very good point. The differences between some of the different revisions is quite drastic, and having all of the revisions in one thread is counter-productive.
The bottom line here is the current method creates one big mess and there is clearly room for improvement. I think if the devs had a way of posting announcements for which users can opt-in to receive notification when those announcements are posted, then that solves one small portion of the mess.
Would that be so bad?
You have just described Twitter.
I was under the impression that one dev didn't want to know about bugs in their roms inside of their threads.
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I was under the impression that one dev didn't want to know about bugs in their roms inside of their threads.
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Only if it's super buggy and they know it is buggy, no reason to post bugs then.
Back on topic: Your idea got buried because it sucked. People read through all that, not everyone, but some do.
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I was under the impression that one dev didn't want to know about bugs in their roms inside of their threads.
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Often when someone posts something that they already know is full of bugs they will ask people to not post about them, just because they are already known issues.
Al right. I guess it's just me then.
Back to our regularly scheduled programming.
After i see a couple of threats closed and after this words i must say somethig, and if you want you may delete or do whatever yoy want!
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I must said That I'm tyred of you position and presumption over people.
If this is supously a forum for discuss ideas and point of views than i think You're not beave as you should.
If This isnt a forum to discuss ideas and pointsman of viewdata, than, congratulations for your beavement.
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With this behavior you remind me a presitent of my country since 30's to 75. Salasar. If you don't know who he was search Wikipedia. National fascism. Who try to silence others.
That's what you are doing here with You're commentary and behaviors.
finaly.
Since and unfortunately anybody until now can crack the bootloader we must discuss something EVEN ANGEL's SEX. but i think you won't admirer. RIGHT?!
Sorry for my enghish. If it wasn't good enough for you to read you can delete this.
i think this is the thing you like best. Being superior.
Thks. And until someday.
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Very trigger happy mods here. I mod on various forums too and you need to let people talk. Like someone else said, it's not a news group and we're not communicating through carrier pigeons or anything.
Well I pm'd PiLoT and he says he will open up the 2.1 thread once it has been released so that we can discuss it. So just wait a bit guys...
I was not refering ONLY to 2.1 threat.
Just check how many threats he had closed.
Long live censured sociaties and threats.
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I was not refering ONLY to 2.1 threat.
Just check how many threats he had closed.
Long live censured sociaties and threats.
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Yup I pm'd him with exactly the same stuff that you were talking about, and his reply seems reasonable (to an extent)
I've had posts deleted too. When things go pear shaped I jump in with something light hearted. I admin'd my own forum a few years a go and only deleted slanderous posts which could get you or the forum in trouble. Food for thought when there's mass SE slandering going on but a 2.1 gets removed instead..... hmmmmm....
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There should be a bit more organising of threads imo. I'd create a few new threads of some of the more common problems we are having so when a thread is closed you can be referred to the thread created by the mods.
But I do understand why some of the threads have been closed. If I'm having Market issues, I wouldn't dream of starting a new thread because there is just so many already, and that goes for most of the topics/questions that keep geting asked over and over.
Everyone needs to have thick skin on the internet. I am a genuine, caring person in real life but I'm not afraid to be a bit of a **** from time to time. I don't troll people and I'll drop it after a post or two. Most people are like that too.
The big problem makers just need to be banned. We don't need to nanny everyone and close all the threads.
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I've had posts deleted too. When things go pear shaped I jump in with something light hearted. I admin'd my own forum a few years a go and only deleted slanderous posts which could get you or the forum in trouble. Food for thought when there's mass SE slandering going on but a 2.1 gets removed instead..... hmmmmm....
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I personaly dont bother if we had or not 2.1
What bothets to me is JUST because someone gtes a "little"
pissoff dicided to close something
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Personally I agree with him with most - not all - the threads he closed, all of them would end in trash talk and trolling, look at this forum and other phone forums, the xda forum should be full of guides and index threads, FAQ, etc..
Instead here we have.. well, you can see yourself, if someone said he killed a mosquito with number 2.1 printed on its back we will a make 10 page thread for it,
Another thing, mods use their free time to clean our trash instead of having sex with their gfs so you should be thankful about it,
One more thing, I live in Egypt, Google "president of Egypt" and you will see what it is that you are talking about.
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You are all lucky you do not post on the wind forums ( Orascoms carrier in canada ) Say just 1 thing thats not pro wind and you are deleted.. Not just that but dare to complain about the handset choices or coverage and you are attacked by the pro right wing wind lackies. I think ladies and gentlemen we have it good here.
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One more thing, I live in Egypt, Google "president of Egypt" and you will see what it is that you are talking about.
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On that note google Orascom ! i hear what you are saying my friend loud and clear!
ok
firstly i want to point out the reasons behind deleting posts
A. If someone want to voice an opinion over a matter, then they need to do so in a thread that already exists for that purpose otherwise we have, for instance, multi touch debates on the first page, if someone opens a new thread to discuss a topic thats already being discussed then its called post redundancy, and im entitled to close it.
B."Ive had it with SE, X10" or "I've Sold me X10 for whatever reason"
I Close these thread as they contribute nothing to the forum in anyway shape or form
C, 2.1 Release updates
I admit im being overbearing as far as deleting these threads go, but the reason is simple. People broke the rules. there were two threads previous to the current one that got filled with hate and arguing so the current one was opened with rules stating post only news in here, no discussion or opinions, and i got 5 pages of posts to delete, therefore i locked it as we still need to news but i want PMs
then i get 4 or more of the same thread with info we all already know and will go into the news thread as soon as i get my pms, also bear in mind because of the monumental time that the updates has taken this is by far one of the most hostile sub-forums on xda and it cant continue. therefore ive had to take a necessary measure in order to keep the piece including banning three members as they couldn't stop arguing
D, Threads posted by iHIM or his sock-puppets
This one should be self explanatory
as for the comparison to António de Oliveira Salazar well im offended ive never visited Portugal nor do i intend taking over parts of Africa
also i don't believe in deleting thread if they threaten my beliefs on behaviour and moderation there fore this is being left undeleted so you can see my point of view
also youll see from some of my deleted threads im less dictator like as i let them know they can reach me via pm for discussion if they disagree with my decision
I hope you can see my points of view and come around to agreeing with my opinion XDA shouldn't ever have a forum full of nasty comments
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There should be a bit more organising of threads imo. I'd create a few new threads of some of the more common problems we are having so when a thread is closed you can be referred to the thread created by the mods.
But I do understand why some of the threads have been closed. If I'm having Market issues, I wouldn't dream of starting a new thread because there is just so many already, and that goes for most of the topics/questions that keep geting asked over and over.
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your refering to this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678156
no illadmit the mod who made that is never seen here so if you want to make a replacement and want it stickied and you believe it will be read then creat it post it then pm me and i will delete the moderators one
there fore u can be responsible for updating
This is the first time I've ever entered the X10 forums, at -PiLoT-'s request, and I have reviewed the deletions and thread closures, and all are in line with the way other forums and mods work on other sections of XDA.
Threads are constantly going off-topic, there is flaming in about every thread I have opened, and threads supposed to be used for news and announcements are being filled with off-topic flaming, abuse and attacks against other members.
There is more trolling in this forum than in any of the others combined, and the number of duplicate threads is significant. There is only a need for one thread on something. If it's the 2.1 update, then there is an existing thread for it. If all you've come to do is flame or attack someone else on this matter, then don't.
If you are in any doubt as to the purposes of this site, please take a read of both the forum rules and the XDA mantra (in my signature). XDA was set up as a community of developers to improve their devices as much as they could. Over time it has expanded to cover more devices, but the aim remains the same.
Multiple threads on the same matter are counter-productive, and make it harder for new users to find information, so those threads may be closed for that reason. Additionally, if a new thread is made to announce "old news", it is right that it be deleted.
As I said, I have reviewed deletions, and all I have found deleted are flames, personal attacks, rude posts, off-topic nonsense or a combination of the above. The forum rules are located at http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=615 and I would encourage anyone who feels this kind of behaviour to be acceptable on XDA to read them carefully, particularly rule 2.
With regard to closing threads, this is a step taken when a thread has derailed sufficiently (and been cleaned) that allowing posting to continue would result in more flaming/off topic/abuse/junk. Closing a thread permits everyone to see the information discussed previously, and is preferable to deletion in cases such as this. Deletion is used where the contents of a thread or post are duplicates of existing material, and discussion has not developed, or containing abusive content.
As such, I can see no complaint here, as everything done is in the interests of XDA users. Nothing has been removed which is of any value (which was not duplicated in more detail elsewhere), and closed threads had either become permanent flame-wars, or were duplicates of questions or information that has been posted numerous times (thus needing closed to allow people to find the answers via search without coming across pages of flame wars over asking a question).
Again, take a read of the forum rules if you can't see anything wrong with the threads/posts that got deleted, and take a read of the XDA mantra ("What is XDA about?" in my signature)...
Honestly I don't know why you guys are complaining, if you've been following the X10 thread since the device's release back at the end of March you'll know that the problems described above by the mods were getting WAY out of hand without a proper moderator here and we all complained we needed one. Now finally we have that and people are complaining about that! I don't get it
Use the search button, then use it again...then again....then one more time. Then decide if you really need to start a new thread, more than likely you don't.
If you read any other threads on XDA they're absolutely right about this one being the worst for hostility and trolling, it was horrible for a while and I for one and very happy to see someone finally cleaning up all the **** on here and enforcing proper etiquette. Think about how much time you waste sifting through crap and ignorant opinions on here while you're looking for some legit information. The best thread here is the "Custom rom development : Devs only" and why do you think that is?
I totally agree with the MODS. Its bad enough trying to find anything in this forum without having to troll through hundreds of useless and pointless posts.
Keep up the good work Mods........
come on now, i own many previous phones before! i never seen so many threads closed, it' getting ridiculous! i used to own HTC Tytn, then HTC HD2, and now Samsung Captivate, and my gf has X10. go check out Tytn, HD2, or Captivate forums, closed thread rarely happens. isnt forum is for discussion?
update: oh, i forgot, i also used to own sony X1. haha
Just to back this up, I just moved 10 threads out of development for being questions. That's 50% of the threads visible on the first page to me...
And once I moved those 10 threads, another 10 threads came onto the front page, and every one of them was a question, complete with question tag.
Well, after some comments by moderators, I admit that:
1 - Maybe (and just maybe) have exaggerated the words, however, does not invalidate my opinion at all.
2 - I understand and agree in part (and thank) the explanations given.
3 - I admit it is not permissible certain kind of feedback from users of this forum, so obviously these comments will be deleted, however, does not seem right to close a forum discussion because of those comments even more heated (up rude). Perhaps it is more correct to call attention to certain kinds of behaviors and the consequences if they aren`t changed.
4 - I think it is preferable to "delete" comments that closing a topic (of course repeated topics obviously have to be deleted, do not argue that)
5 - is evident to me that this "call" clutter the forum X10 has to do with the fact that the devs so far failed to crack the bootloader for our X10 and the delay on the part of the SE to release a new version of Android , which leads to discussions, arguments, theories, etc. on our part.
5 - it is true and obvious that users of this sub-forum are lazier than they should and in fact should look more carefully before opening useless topics.
6 - continuo a pensar que, embora tudo o que foi explicado anteriormente seja válido, existem demasiados tópicos fechados para meu gosto. pois este e qualquer outro forum existente, serve para discussão. pois é da discussão que o mundo avança.
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translate still think that even though everything was explained earlier is valid, there are too many threads closed for my taste. for this and any other existing forum serves for discussion. because the discussion is that the world progresses.
7 - For me the issue is closed
hi everyone,
I made this thread to prepare for starting a new thread in the xperia x10 Forum, the thread will be called "THE Guide"
In Case you are wondering why i made a Project thread about it, that is the way i want that thread to be it can't be done by one member, So i need your help
WHY ?
i am tired of new threads people make about very old problem that were solved millions of times, every forum have one of these thread and we shall make this one the best one.
IDEA
it will include everything we can imagine,
My view is like this:
- 1st Post will be the Index, it will contain links to the different parts of the guide
- the next for example 2 pages, each post will be about a different topic, example:
--> Root Post will contain links to differnet rooting methods, FAQ, known issues, etc
--> ROM post, will contain links to ROMS - if any -, Dev in Progress, etc
i hope you get the idea..
WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO:
- this thread will be always fresh and updated, and i can't make that alone, my time won't allow me to manage more than the index post and at most one other topic
- Anyone willing to join this epic Guide, write in this thread and tell me what topic you want to handle
- Any ideas about the topics are always welcome.
- you should have a decent amount of posts, etc.. ( i can't allow someone with 1 post to take part in this, sorry )
Posiible Topics that i came of till now:
- Branding/Debranding
- Rooting
- Market issues
- Battery problem
- themes, and related Howto's
- Dev tools, and related progress ( i think someone should arrange that for new Devs coming to help )
( those what came in my mind in just 2 mins )
BEWARE: THIS IS NOT THE GUIDE THREAD, AS SOON AS THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE AND WE ARRANGE WHO WILL DO WHAT, I WILL CREATE THE THREAD.
so for now lets here what you guys think about it.
Members applied so far:
pngface for News section
_calum_ for themes section
mezo9090 said:
hi everyone,
I made this thread to prepare for starting a new thread in the xperia x10 Forum, the thread will be called "THE Guide"
In Case you are wondering why i made a Project thread about it, that is the way i want that thread to be it can't be done by one member, So i need your help
WHY ?
i am tired of new threads people make about very old problem that were solved millions of times, every forum have one of these thread and we shall make this one the best one.
IDEA
it will include everything we can imagine,
My view is like this:
- 1st Post will be the Index, it will contain links to the different parts of the guide
- the next for example 2 pages, each post will be about a different topic, example:
--> Root Post will contain links to differnet rooting methods, FAQ, known issues, etc
--> ROM post, will contain links to ROMS - if any -, Dev in Progress, etc
i hope you get the idea..
WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO:
- this thread will be always fresh and updated, and i can't make that alone, my time won't allow me to manage more than the index post and at most one other topic
- Anyone willing to join this epic Guide, write in this thread and tell me what topic you want to handle
- Any ideas about the topics are always welcome.
- you should have a decent amount of posts, etc.. ( i can't allow someone with 1 post to take part in this, sorry )
Posiible Topics that i came of till now:
- Branding/Debranding
- Rooting
- Market issues
- Battery problem
- themes, and related Howto's
- Dev tools, and related progress ( i think someone should arrange that for new Devs coming to help )
( those what came in my mind in just 2 mins )
BEWARE: THIS IS NOT THE GUIDE THREAD, AS SOON AS THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE AND WE ARRANGE WHO WILL DO WHAT, I WILL CREATE THE THREAD.
so for now lets here what you guys think about it.
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Simpsons done it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678156
Hey OP, just wanted to know, can we post news articles over here as well? If so, I'm a pretty keen observer of all the x10 news(a la Google alerts ) so I wouldn't mind handling that. Let me know
Edit: I just remembered there's already a section for that in this forum... linked in the post above mine. maybe we should ask the mods before we do anything
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Simpsons done it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678156
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i hope you find this info useful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8778986&postcount=14
pngface said:
Hey OP, just wanted to know, can we post news articles over here as well? If so, I'm a pretty keen observer of all the x10 news(a la Google alerts ) so I wouldn't mind handling that. Let me know
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i will, to make it more organized i'll list everyone who apply here and will pm all at once when we are enough
Ahww ok, sorry bro
Good Idea. I just read PiLOT's post and I really do think we need to help people out that are as clueless as I was when I got my X10
I'll volunteer myself for getting the theme related stuff together. If nobody has already I'll get a list of the most important threads/how tos together.
Should I just post a list here and keep updating it?
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Good Idea. I just read PiLOT's post and I really do think we need to help people out that are as clueless as I was when I got my X10
I'll volunteer myself for getting the theme related stuff together. If nobody has already I'll get a list of the most important threads/how tos together.
Should I just post a list here and keep updating it?
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No, not in this thread, this thread is for getting people and arranging things.
We need at least 10 people to manage this guide.
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Yeah, I just meant sort of like a rough draft here...
Anyway, PM me if you want me to get going on this
good idea, i like it a lot, i keep up to date with all x10 news, so il join you
Please start a new thread when you put out a new version of your rom.
By the time the second version comes out for the really good roms it's impossible to follow all the issues as there can be upwards of 1000 posts in the thread. Starting at the back doesn't help because of all the "how's your battery life?" posts. Then again, maybe that's the problem.
Anyway, I REALLY appreciate the work you guys do on these roms and kernels. I just wish it were easier to follow the flow of development.
Thanks for listening.
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+1 .... i am with you !!!
+1 . Yeah it so annoying to go through thousands of old threads...
Moved to general
Moved? Do the people I'm talking to ever look in "general?"
I support this all the way people always tell everyone to use search but you barely ever get what your looking for..
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Please start a new thread when you put out a new version of your rom.
By the time the second version comes out for the really good roms it's impossible to follow all the issues as there can be upwards of 1000 posts in the thread. Starting at the back doesn't help because of all the "how's your battery life?" posts. Then again, maybe that's the problem.
Anyway, I REALLY appreciate the work you guys do on these roms and kernels. I just wish it were easier to follow the flow of development.
Thanks for listening.
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+100000000
Great suggestion. totally agree.
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Moved? Do the people I'm talking to ever look in "general?"
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Well it doesn't have anything to do with developing..
Although you do make a pretty good point, it is a LOT easier just to update the thread with a new download link & change log.
It would also cut down on a lot of clutter in that section.
If you are running an older version of what that dev posted, you shouldn't post bugs unless it didn't say it was fixed in the newest version of what they posted.
Master™ said:
Well it doesn't have anything to do with developing..
Although you do make a pretty good point, it is a LOT easier just to update the thread with a new download link & change log.
It would also cut down on a lot of clutter in that section.
If you are running an older version of what that dev posted, you shouldn't post bugs unless it didn't say it was fixed in the newest version of what they posted.
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Master, your thread specifically is almost impossible to follow because of the almost 10,000 posts in it.
The easy fix to your update example above:
1) go to post for last release
2) hit edit
3) Ctrl-A to select all and Ctrl-C to copy
4) Hit Cancel
5) Open new thread and Ctrl-V to paste
6) edit pasted text and hit preview
7) review the post and make corrections as needed
8) hit submit and wait for the flood
T313C0mun1s7 said:
Master, your thread specifically is almost impossible to follow because of the almost 10,000 posts in it.
The easy fix to your update example above:
1) go to post for last release
2) hit edit
3) Ctrl-A to select all and Ctrl-C to copy
4) Hit Cancel
5) Open new thread and Ctrl-V to paste
6) edit pasted text and hit preview
7) review the post and make corrections as needed
8) hit submit and wait for the flood
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9. Delete the old thread.
I think it's more of a "Let's see whose thread can get the mot posts" type of thing. Because it actually makes little to no sense to update a thread from months ago that is full of non-existent issues and then ask people to search through that thread as if the answer is supposed to jump out at them. Luckily I have given up on trying to read threads.
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9. Delete the old thread.
I think it's more of a "Let's see whose thread can get the mot posts" type of thing. Because it actually makes little to no sense to update a thread from months ago that is full of non-existent issues and then ask people to search through that thread as if the answer is supposed to jump out at them. Luckily I have given up on trying to read threads.
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Well first, you cannot delete your own threads nor close them.
There is a search button in the threads for a reason also..
I guess it could be a thing to get people into saying what version they are on when they report a bug/ask a question..
Just a thought
I have to say I kinda agree with the OP, although obviously from your point of view its just making work.
I run your Axura 2.1 ROM Master, and was feeling a little lag from it here and there. I was looking for one piece of information... "can I use OCLF with this ROM"... had bad experiences with Voodoo in the past.
Man, it was no mean feat to find this out. Eventually, I put the new Voodoo kernel on my phone and its running flawlessly (utterly love this ROM by the way man. Seriously. Better than anything out there by a royal mile), but it was a hugely frustrating process to figure out whether I had any other options. To get a definitive answer. Just to find something simple.
I've often asked people direct questions in PM, and got no response, or at least an unhelpful one. As a technical guy, but not a developer, any questions I have are usually pretty specific, and not newbie in nature, and finding the answer is a massive problem. One of the biggest hurdles to this is 1000+ post threads.
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Master™ said:
Well first, you cannot delete your own threads nor close them.
There is a search button in the threads for a reason also..
I guess it could be a thing to get people into saying what version they are on when they report a bug/ask a question..
Just a thought
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Personally I think the old threads should remain anyhow. They help to keep the versions separate, not everyone upgrades right away. People should post in the correct thread for their version, but right not this is not possible.
Also, the old, dead thread clean up is not the responsibility of the OP, but of the forum admin. I have owned and run many forums. I have used ikonboard, vBulletin, Invision Power Board, MyBB, Phorum, phpBB, and my favorite Simple Machines Forum. All of them have in the administrative back end the option to cleanup old dead threads with no posts with a set time frame.
Problem is rom gets updated, 300 posts of "OMG Thank You, flashing soon!!!!"
They don't care.. The only thing they care about is getting donations. Higher post conts = more attention = more donations. In summary: they do not care
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grennis said:
They don't care.. The only thing they care about is getting donations. Higher post conts = more attention = more donations. In summary: they do not care
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Sorry, gotta call BS on this one. Based on recent events I can guess that you are speaking at least generally if not specifically to Master, and he already addressed (IN THIS VERY THREAD) his thoughts both for and against. In fact so far he has been the ONLY developer to come forward and state he would be willing to do this.
Your statement does not contribute in any way to the discussion at hand, and I personally to not appreciate anyone that posts in running threads just to flamebait and be defamatory. Please check yourself.
I think an easier and better solution exists.
The problem for us the users is that we cannot find which posts relate to which rom version, correct?
The problem for developers if we choose to open a new thread for every release is to follow all 20 threads.
An easy solution would be to have one thread for the rom as it is now, BUT with every update of the rom (and the first page) the developer can add another post with update details at the end of his thread (basically a simple post reply) and put a link to it on the first page in the change log.
This way people viewing the change log will have links to the parts of the thread that discuss that update, while developers won't have 20 threads to maintain.
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Whether you are following 20 threads or the same number of posts in 1 thread the work is the same because you have to reply either way. Also, all versions in 1 thread plus people still using old versions leads to confusion, and confusion equals having to clarify which ultimately means more posts. If you subscribe to the threads and use proper subjects for the thread you should get an e-mail that not only tells you there was a reply, but to which thread version and you can prioritize your replies, ie. Current version I will answer that now, 3 versions back and he can wait until I am done with what I am working on or else he can upgrade. Also since the older threads will get posted to less frequently the chance of multiple posts after the e-mail is less, so if the question is something that was fixed in a newer version you can decide it is not even worth your time to reply. As a developer you can not do that now because there may be many replies after the one that triggered your subscription e-mail that you will not see until you visit the forum.
Trust me, I have run a BUNCH of forums, and 1 thread per version is a better idea for many reasons you have not even thought of yet. If you fully think it out you will realize that it is actually easier to keep track of the 2 or 3 most resent threads people actually pay attention to then try to track the last 2 or 3 versions in 1 thread.
I've run a few big forums too so I do know what im talking about.
With 95% of users upgrade to a newer version of the rom there would be no need to keep the threads for the old roms because no one will write there. But you can't delete them. So instead of having 20 threads with 20 roms, we will have 400 threads for 20 versions of those 20 roms if we follow your idea
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I would love to have a Sony UI on my Nexus 7.
Is there perhaps a ROM that lets me enjoy the Sony tablet UI on my Nexus 7?
I can't just install the Xperia Home apk file.
Sony's UI is the only one I think is better than stock Android as I have now and it would complement my current Sony Xperia S.
I've googled this and I've searched here on XDA for a similar thread but I couldn't find anything of use.
I can't be the only one, can I?
I would really appreciate anyone who could help me out. I'm sure you'll be helping out others too!
It's hard to port only launcher, because these OEM launchers rely heavily on their own framework. You can search around a little, I think (but not sure) that I was some xperia related apps being ported, but I don't know where.
issak42 said:
It's hard to port only launcher, because these OEM launchers rely heavily on their own framework. You can search around a little, I think (but not sure) that I was some xperia related apps being ported, but I don't know where.
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Is it difficult to port the entire Sony UI thingy to the Nexus 7 then?
It's a shame. Sony makes their UI very clean and very elegant. A Sony Nexus 7 would therefore be epic and I presumed it could just be ported as it's simply a skin of Android (or so I had thought).
Read this.
Use the search function next time please.
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Read this.
Use the search function next time please.
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I don't know if you've realised, but I had already tried searching and I even responded to that thread already.
So unfortunately your reply wasn't of much use to me. The thread even says it's "coming soon" but it was made a while ago.
Use your eyeballs next time please
Then post in an already existing thread rather than making a new one. Read the forum rules. Making threads about the same issue or question is not going to solve anything. Post in one that exist. If it gets a reply, great. If it doesn't, too bad.
Edit - You created this thread almost 2 hours before you wrote in the existing one, which tells me that you in fact did not search for it first, but just made a thread. So don't tell me to "use my eyes" next time.
^^^^^ A new mod or someone playing the part?
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^^^^^ A new mod or someone playing the part?
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You can't deny he's got ambition!
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Then post in an already existing thread rather than making a new one. Read the forum rules. Making threads about the same issue or question is not going to solve anything. Post in one that exist. If it gets a reply, great. If it doesn't, too bad.
Edit - You created this thread almost 2 hours before you wrote in the existing one, which tells me that you in fact did not search for it first, but just made a thread. So don't tell me to "use my eyes" next time.
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To the EDIT: I did indeed use the search function before posting this. I just couldn't find anything relevant in the first couple of pages so I guess it would've been easier to just make a new thread. Maybe others who hadn't thought about it might enjoy a Sony UI on their Nexus 7.
Oh and also, this thread is very generally speaking. I'm not just looking for the launcher. Or individual apps. My intention was to find a custom ROM or anything related to the Sony UI to be ported to the Nexus 7. Not just what(ever) was in that link.
Thanks anyway for the attention. This is getting off-topic so I would prefer to see posts of something relevant to my question. Like an actual ROM or something. Maybe even getting a modder as far as to make one himself :victory:
EDIT: Why do you feel the need to correct every tiny mistake I could've made regarding posting rules? My number of posts isn't very high so one would presume I'm new here and I don't know everything there is to this forum yet. A tiny additional note might've been more in place.
I'll try to keep this short. Around 99% of questions have already been asked and answered here on XDA. Chances are if you search hard enough, you'll find it. Rather than taking the lazy route and just creating a new thread, it's generally preferred to do research. That is what XDA is all about - research and development.
While I am not a moderator here, I am an active member, and I try to guide and point people to the right direction as much as I can, in order to keep the forums clean. Because after a while, you too will get sick of seeing people asking the same questions over and over again, even when there are 50+ page threads dedicated to the topic.
Don't take it personally, I am just trying to help. And I did by providing you with a link, pointing to where this discussion should be taking place - in an already ongoing thread.
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I'll try to keep this short. Around 99% of questions have already been asked and answered here on XDA. Chances are if you search hard enough, you'll find it. Rather than taking the lazy route and just creating a new thread, it's generally preferred to do research. That is what XDA is all about - research and development.
While I am not a moderator here, I am an active member, and I try to guide and point people to the right direction as much as I can, in order to keep the forums clean. Because after a while, you too will get sick of seeing people asking the same questions over and over again, even when there are 50+ page threads dedicated to the topic.
Don't take it personally, I am just trying to help. And I did by providing you with a link, pointing to where this discussion should be taking place - in an already ongoing thread.
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I agree with that, and yes, I have read enough on these XDA forums that I do get tired of noobs asking the same thing over and over again, but my thread is more of a general question regarding a way to add a Sony UI to the Nexus 7.
And I haven't seen one of these threads yet.
So yeah, if anyone has any idea how to get a full Sony Xperience on the Nexus 7, I'm more than happy to hear about that!
Sv: [Q] Sony Tablet UI on Nexus 7 - is it possible?
Hopefully, Xperia Tablet Z will be more popular, and get a bigger XDA community.
The search feature on the xda app is terrible. I find better results using the website or Google.
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ynrozturk said:
I'll try to keep this short. Around 99% of questions have already been asked and answered here on XDA. Chances are if you search hard enough, you'll find it. Rather than taking the lazy route and just creating a new thread, it's generally preferred to do research. That is what XDA is all about - research and development.
While I am not a moderator here, I am an active member, and I try to guide and point people to the right direction as much as I can, in order to keep the forums clean. Because after a while, you too will get sick of seeing people asking the same questions over and over again, even when there are 50+ page threads dedicated to the topic.
Don't take it personally, I am just trying to help. And I did by providing you with a link, pointing to where this discussion should be taking place - in an already ongoing thread.
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100% Agreed.
XDA is getting more and more diluted every single day.
Try this link....it is for sony launcher and widgets but I can confirm it is working fine on n7.
You can change alot of features and icons etc.
The link is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34823516
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