Currently I have not rooted my 6P so I cannot run the DoubleTap2Wake function using the terminal command. So instead I will be using the smart lock feature to at least prevent from having to use my fingerprint to unlock the device. I am choosing to use an NFC tag under my large mouse pad to act as a the smart lock trigger. I am curious to know if leaving my phone on the NFC tag for an extended period of time will prevent doze from activating. Also how can I look at when doze was on?
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Since we already have a low power sensor chip which can detect nudge, do you think developers will be able to add low power DT2W functionality to this phone?
I feel google mad a major miss by not adding it.
What's the point of DT2W when you have a fingerprint scanner that you litterally just tap and it turns on and unlocks the phone
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What's the point of DT2W when you have a fingerprint scanner that you litterally just tap and it turns on and unlocks the phone
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I have an anecdotal scenario where double-tap would be useful. I prop up my Nexus 6P on a stand on my desk while I work, and when I hear the notification sound it would be nice to just double-tap my screen to see what it is. I don't really want to pick up the device for that. First world problems...but still.
I would really love a way to enable dt2w only when the phone is flat (like on a table) because it's so annoying when my skin somehow activates it through my jeans. I'm guessing this is why they did not include it.. pocket dialing and pocket photos should be a thing of the past but with dt2w it happened a lot.
On the Nexus 6, there was a hidden Double tap to wake feature that was disabled. I'll have to have a further look at the source when it becomes available.
If there isn't one hidden then dt2w can always be ported over from other phones.
It should be noted that dt2w is only useful when combined with software that prevents double tap to wake when the phone is in your pocket and low-power dt2w.
When it is sitting on my desk and i want to wake it up? Don't tell me nudge, cause its ridiculous to have to push my phone around
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I would really love a way to enable dt2w only when the phone is flat (like on a table) because it's so annoying when my skin somehow activates it through my jeans. I'm guessing this is why they did not include it.. pocket dialing and pocket photos should be a thing of the past but with dt2w it happened a lot.
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It can easily be avoided by combining with on body detection and or proximity sensor.
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On the Nexus 6, there was a hidden Double tap to wake feature that was disabled. I'll have to have a further look at the source when it becomes available.
If there isn't one hidden then dt2w can always be ported over from other phones.
It should be noted that dt2w is only useful when combined with software that prevents double tap to wake when the phone is in your pocket and low-power dt2w.
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Thats the big Q, is will be low power, in theory you already have the code for nudge.. so if that is not proprietary blob then we would have a look into the low power sensor array..
Hi! As many others, I am really happy with the S7Edge. I encountered one problem with the Smart Lock functionality though which I really find annoying.
I am using my Pebble as trusted bluetooth device. Now, when I turn off my Pebble (while the phone's screen is off), the phone should lock, right? Well, it doesn't. I am still able to turn it on one time. Only when going into standby mode for the 2nd time it requires my finger print / code in order to unlock.
It does work correctly on a Nexus device so I assume this is caused by a bad implementation by Samsung? Can anyone here confirm this behavior?
Thank you in advanced!
TopGun82 said:
Hi! As many others, I am really happy with the S7Edge. I encountered one problem with the Smart Lock functionality though which I really find annoying.
I am using my Pebble as trusted bluetooth device. Now, when I turn off my Pebble (while the phone's screen is off), the phone should lock, right? Well, it doesn't. I am still able to turn it on one time. Only when going into standby mode for the 2nd time it requires my finger print / code in order to unlock.
It does work correctly on a Nexus device so I assume this is caused by a bad implementation by Samsung? Can anyone here confirm this behavior?
Thank you in advanced!
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I can confirm you that SmartLock is crap ! I have set my car as trusted device, my headhones too and fav locations, and regularly I have to use the fingerprint or the schema.
moulip said:
I can confirm you that SmartLock is crap ! I have set my car as trusted device, my headhones too and fav locations, and regularly I have to use the fingerprint or the schema.
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Smart Lock works fine for me. I've never had to use a fingerprint or pin when my phone is connected to a registered BT device. I don't use locations, so can't comment on that.
Does going to lock screen and security>other security setting>trusted agents toggle smart lock off?
I don't really understand the concept of Smart Lock having trusted places, devices etc. for turning off pin etc. to unlock the screen when it still leaves a lock screen you have to swipe. What is the reasoning behind that? Screens don't really turn on in people's pockets do they? I've never had a phone where I used a lock screen (except away from home in case it's lost) until the last several days with my Axon 7 and having to swipe the screen when I don't use the fingerprint reader (I've discovered having it on the back instead of front is inconvenient, at least for me) is starting to drive me batty.
So is there a way to remove it? I'd want it removed COMPLETELY in certain scenarios, such as being connected to home WiFi or truck bluetooth.
If not, and if that's normal, how can people stand it? :cyclops:
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You need to be rooted and have Xposed firmware. Then just search on Google for the module: lockscreendisabler xda. With that module you can deactivate the lockscreendisabler permanently.
Certain scenarios:
By location, Bluetooth you can use smart lock. For wifi: there is an app called smart lock WiFi, I think. You can too find it on xda.
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Permanently:
You need to be rooted and have Xposed firmware. Then just search on Google for the module: lockscreendisabler xda. With that module you can deactivate the lockscreendisabler permanently.
Certain scenarios:
By location, Bluetooth you can use smart lock. For wifi: there is an app called smart lock WiFi, I think. You can too find it on xda.
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The smart lock built into the phone? That doesn't disable the lock screen, it just disables having to put in a code etc. on the lock screen.
Hello everyone, I just came from a Nexus 6P, and was wondering if "ok google" from screen off is a feature on the OnePlus 5. I have swore I had it when I first got the phone but now it doesn't seem to be working. I've looked around a little and there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether it's possible or not. Does anyone want to test it and post whether it works for them or not? (or used to work)
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Hello everyone, I just came from a Nexus 6P, and was wondering if "ok google" from screen off is a feature on the OnePlus 5. I have swore I had it when I first got the phone but now it doesn't seem to be working. I've looked around a little and there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether it's possible or not. Does anyone want to test it and post whether it works for them or not? (or used to work)
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I never used stock OOS, only xXx and Pure Fusion, and "ok google" doesn't work on either while phone is locked (which, to my understanding, is not the same thing as "screen off")
I have been missing this ever since I got this phone and moved away from my Moto x Pure. It's really aggravating there is no way to get this to function correctly, or at all, with the screen off. I don't get it.
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Hello everyone, I just came from a Nexus 6P, and was wondering if "ok google" from screen off is a feature on the OnePlus 5. I have swore I had it when I first got the phone but now it doesn't seem to be working. I've looked around a little and there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether it's possible or not. Does anyone want to test it and post whether it works for them or not? (or used to work)
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FYI: This was answered in a thread on Google Assistant.
1. "OK Google" will NOT work from the lock screen even when "Trusted voice" is enabled and the screen is off.
2. "OK Google" will unlock the lock screen when "Trusted voice" is enabled AND the screen is on.
3. "OK Google" will react if the screen is off but the lock screen is not on.
I hope that helps.
From what I read its speculated that with OOS it was chosen to save battery by turning off "listening" when the lock screen is on and the screen is off. Personally I think that OOS should be "listening" under those conditions if your also charging or at least have that option as a settings toggle.
I've personally had to hack a way around this issue by using a couple of apps (Caffeine, Screen Off (no lock)) to get into a #3 (above) condition when I'm attached to the charger so my OP5 can double as a Google Home and have my screen off most of the time without automatically locking.
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FYI: This was answered in a thread on Google Assistant.
1. "OK Google" will NOT work from the lock screen even when "Trusted voice" is enabled and the screen is off.
2. "OK Google" will unlock the lock screen when "Trusted voice" is enabled AND the screen is on.
3. "OK Google" will react if the screen is off but the lock screen is not on.
I hope that helps.
From what I read its speculated that with OOS it was chosen to save battery by turning off "listening" when the lock screen is on and the screen is off. Personally I think that OOS should be "listening" under those conditions if your also charging or at least have that option as a settings toggle.
I've personally had to hack a way around this issue by using a couple of apps Caffeine, Screen Off (no lock)to get into a #3 (above) condition when I'm attached to the charger so my OP5 can double as a Google Home and have my screen off most of the time without automatically locking.
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I understand that this feature has been cut off as a measure to optimize battery life but
This thread is not on xda just to discuss what OEMs have restricted us to, right?
Besides there are many of us who would prefer this feature over an hour or two of battery life
I've also been doing some research
I've tried those apps that keep your display "Always on" after you press the power button, but that option wasn't very robust:
One extra press of the power button would turn off the app and thus the screen
Ok Google detection works well if the device was locked recently, not working at all after a few hours
Associated with an hour less of battery life
But the app made checking time and notifications a bit less tedious
Basically the AOD feature from recent Samsung devices
Let me know of any workarounds that involve least number of third party apps
BTW, I use trusted voice, and it works well, friends tried a lot to get through but never could , helps with the unlocking part of the above feature
TL;DR: It is very much possible!
I was were you guys were some weeks ago and also thought that it would be nice to have true hands-free capabilities, so I searched for an app that could do this. The main issue with the "OK Google"-detection, as @3DSammy already stated, is that the screen has to be on in order for it to work (and trusted voice has to be enabled, obviously). The best workaround for this is an app that keeps your screen turned on without draining the battery too much. For this purpose I downloaded an app called "Always On AMOLED - BETA" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tomer.alwayson&hl=en), which enables an always-on display, as the name suggests. The app itself works really well with few bugs and doesn't drain the battery too much, although it is noticeable. It will automatically start once you lock your device and is customizable to your liking. While it is running, you can use "OK Google" at any time when it's outside your pocket (and the always-on display is on), just make sure to disable aggressive doze and enable auto-start for the app to prevent it from getting choked off by the OS. Root access may also help. When pressing the power button the app will close and open your lockscreen as you would expect, and the fingerprint sensor does also work straight from the a-o display, which can't be said for every app out there. The sensor is a bit slower though...
Hope I could help!
It's possible to set up for when locked in Settings > Security > Smart Lock, but I'm not sure if you can do it when it's OFF.
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TL;DR: It is very much possible!
I was were you guys were some weeks ago and also thought that it would be nice to have true hands-free capabilities, so I searched for an app that could do this. The main issue with the "OK Google"-detection, as @3DSammy already stated, is that the screen has to be on in order for it to work (and trusted voice has to be enabled, obviously). The best workaround for this is an app that keeps your screen turned on without draining the battery too much. For this purpose I downloaded an app called "Always On AMOLED - BETA" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tomer.alwayson&hl=en), which enables an always-on display, as the name suggests. The app itself works really well with few bugs and doesn't drain the battery too much, although it is noticeable. It will automatically start once you lock your device and is customizable to your liking. While it is running, you can use "OK Google" at any time when it's outside your pocket (and the always-on display is on), just make sure to disable aggressive doze and enable auto-start for the app to prevent it from getting choked off by the OS. Root access may also help. When pressing the power button the app will close and open your lockscreen as you would expect, and the fingerprint sensor does also work straight from the a-o display, which can't be said for every app out there. The sensor is a bit slower though...
Hope I could help!
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Thank you, but my fingerprint doesnt work until I turn on my screen
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Thank you, but my fingerprint doesnt work until I turn on my screen
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maybe try contacting the dev of the app for that? It's been some time since I used this setup myself
What apps would anyone recommend to allow the proximity sensor to wake and sleep the V20? Anyone use one regularly? What app and what settings in the app?
Thanks!
I've found this one to be pretty good and up to date:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jarsilio.android.waveup
I enjoyed the pocket unlock feature.
I've used this in the past (not on my V20).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexnor.gravityscreenofffree