Since we already have a low power sensor chip which can detect nudge, do you think developers will be able to add low power DT2W functionality to this phone?
I feel google mad a major miss by not adding it.
What's the point of DT2W when you have a fingerprint scanner that you litterally just tap and it turns on and unlocks the phone
mgorman said:
What's the point of DT2W when you have a fingerprint scanner that you litterally just tap and it turns on and unlocks the phone
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I have an anecdotal scenario where double-tap would be useful. I prop up my Nexus 6P on a stand on my desk while I work, and when I hear the notification sound it would be nice to just double-tap my screen to see what it is. I don't really want to pick up the device for that. First world problems...but still.
I would really love a way to enable dt2w only when the phone is flat (like on a table) because it's so annoying when my skin somehow activates it through my jeans. I'm guessing this is why they did not include it.. pocket dialing and pocket photos should be a thing of the past but with dt2w it happened a lot.
On the Nexus 6, there was a hidden Double tap to wake feature that was disabled. I'll have to have a further look at the source when it becomes available.
If there isn't one hidden then dt2w can always be ported over from other phones.
It should be noted that dt2w is only useful when combined with software that prevents double tap to wake when the phone is in your pocket and low-power dt2w.
When it is sitting on my desk and i want to wake it up? Don't tell me nudge, cause its ridiculous to have to push my phone around
ohhdavid said:
I would really love a way to enable dt2w only when the phone is flat (like on a table) because it's so annoying when my skin somehow activates it through my jeans. I'm guessing this is why they did not include it.. pocket dialing and pocket photos should be a thing of the past but with dt2w it happened a lot.
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It can easily be avoided by combining with on body detection and or proximity sensor.
zephiK said:
On the Nexus 6, there was a hidden Double tap to wake feature that was disabled. I'll have to have a further look at the source when it becomes available.
If there isn't one hidden then dt2w can always be ported over from other phones.
It should be noted that dt2w is only useful when combined with software that prevents double tap to wake when the phone is in your pocket and low-power dt2w.
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Thats the big Q, is will be low power, in theory you already have the code for nudge.. so if that is not proprietary blob then we would have a look into the low power sensor array..
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Had this phone for about 5 days so far, and coming from an old HTC one X I'm amazed by the battery life! And generally really liking the phone, however..........
I cannot seem to find how to mute the phone's alerts by turning the phone over onto it's screen. i.e. in a meeting or restaurant, phone begins to ring... and I can just flip it quickly over to shut it up and know that it won't ring again whilst turned over.
I know I'm probably being stunningly dim, but any hints?
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Had this phone for about 5 days so far, and coming from an old HTC one X I'm amazed by the battery life! And generally really liking the phone, however..........
I cannot seem to find how to mute the phone's alerts by turning the phone over onto it's screen. i.e. in a meeting or restaurant, phone begins to ring... and I can just flip it quickly over to shut it up and know that it won't ring again whilst turned over.
I know I'm probably being stunningly dim, but any hints?
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I guess this isn't supported on x play.
alex.mc said:
Had this phone for about 5 days so far, and coming from an old HTC one X I'm amazed by the battery life! And generally really liking the phone, however..........
I cannot seem to find how to mute the phone's alerts by turning the phone over onto it's screen. i.e. in a meeting or restaurant, phone begins to ring... and I can just flip it quickly over to shut it up and know that it won't ring again whilst turned over.
I know I'm probably being stunningly dim, but any hints?
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That's a handy feature to have... Someone should work on that.
abhish3k9 said:
That's a handy feature to have... Someone should work on that.
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It's kernel related I think. You can tell the developers about it on kernel related thread.
K.khiladi said:
It's kernel related I think. You can tell the developers about it on kernel related thread.
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I don't think so. I think, it's just using the proximity sensor to mute the device while receiving a call. An app for non-rooted phones will do. Though, it can be embedded in custom ROMs.
abhish3k9 said:
I don't think so. I think, it's just using the proximity sensor to mute the device while receiving a call. An app for non-rooted phones will do. Though, it can be embedded in custom ROMs.
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Nope it isn't that easy that just an app would enable it. X play has notification led also but requires custom kernel to support it.
K.khiladi said:
Nope it isn't that easy that just an app would enable it. X play has notification led also but requires custom kernel to support it.
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I might be wrong, but, enabling the notification LED i.e letting power into it or establishing a connection to it (hardware level) is different than using a (already working) sensor. The feature mentioned in this thread is just a cleaver use of sensors.
abhish3k9 said:
I might be wrong, but, enabling the notification LED i.e letting power into it or establishing a connection to it (hardware level) is different than using a (already working) sensor. The feature mentioned in this thread is just a cleaver use of sensors.
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The sensors are working correctly but for that particular trick to work there has to be support from software level and that comes from kernel support. I haven't heard of any app that initiates this flip to mute thing. I could also be wrong. I ain't a developer but just reading stuffs everywhere.
You don't need special kernel support for this.
Any app (if you grant the permission) can mute the phone by setting RINGER_MODE_SILENT via Android Audiomanager.
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/AudioManager.html
And any app can choose to be notified on sensor data changes of a specific sensor (e.g. proximity semsor) if it registers a listener for this sensor.
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/SensorManager.html
If you combine both and put it as background service you have an app that mutes the phone based on sensor input. E.g. if proximity sensor if covered. Quite easy.
Though for flip to mute proximity sensor alone probably doesn't help as the sensor is a also covered if the phone is in your pocket. I guess gyroscope would be best, which X Play doesn't have...
But maybe you can detect the flip motion also via clever combination of magnetometer and accelerometer data?
But I would be very surprised if there were no apps in Google Play which offer flip to mute functionality
u42671 said:
You don't need special kernel support for this.
Any app (if you grant the permission) can mute the phone by setting RINGER_MODE_SILENT via Android Audiomanager.
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/AudioManager.html
And any app can choose to be notified on sensor data changes of a specific sensor (e.g. proximity semsor) if it registers a listener for this sensor.
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/SensorManager.html
If you combine both and put it as background service you have an app that mutes the phone based on sensor input. E.g. if proximity sensor if covered. Quite easy.
Though for flip to mute proximity sensor alone probably doesn't help as the sensor is a also covered if the phone is in your pocket. I guess gyroscope would be best, which X Play doesn't have...
But maybe you can detect the flip motion also via clever combination of magnetometer and accelerometer data?
But I would be very surprised if there were no apps in Google Play which offer flip to mute functionality
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Thanks for correction and I haven't heard of any app with that feature.
I haven't seen a standalone app for this (but then I haven't really looked too hard) but if you have xposed installed you can use GravityBox which has "Flip action while ringing" under the "Phone Tweaks" section. Options are:
Do nothing (default)
Mute ringer
Dismiss call
The flip action is defined as "device is flipped face down while ringing".
Wondering if theirs a baked kernel that has a raise to wake feature. Installing a 3rd party app might cost wake time. And I love the feature on my iOS10. Doubletap to wake is nice but raise to wake it a bit more convenient during a hang over.
nomadman said:
Wondering if theirs a baked kernel that has a raise to wake feature. Installing a 3rd party app might cost wake time. And I love the feature on my iOS10. Doubletap to wake is nice but raise to wake it a bit more convenient during a hang over.
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What exactly did raise to wake? Please explain for non apple users [emoji5]
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He means waking device using motion/proximity sensor..
Like moto display
You pick up the phone, display gets on for 2,3 sec... shows notification and time..
Not sure but maybe it is called ambient display.
Hey Guys. No problem strongst. Not everyone uses an idevice. yea its a upward motion sensor that lights up the screen. Exactly what Vikas mention on his 3rd line post. But I dont think its a proximity sensor or has anything to do with ambient.
Ive tried a few 3rd party apps and they didn't work very well. Also you have to pick it up in a angle, and what's annoying is when the screen is off you carry it and tilt it in an angle the screen lights up. 3rd party apps also have to be always whitelisted in my batt saving settings because it needs to be always active to work. I am getting 3 days on battery and would like to keep it that way
vikas966591 said:
He means waking device using motion/proximity sensor..
Like moto display
You pick up the phone, display gets on for 2,3 sec... shows notification and time..
Not sure but maybe it is called ambient display.
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I'm sure you can make such things with Tasker,but it's wast of battery in my opinion to much false positives I think.
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I'm hoping to get double tap to wake function working so that I don't have to pick up the phone when it's resting on a surface.
Anyone have double tap to wake feature working on their Pro 3?
Which Xposed module are you using?
Thanks.
Not Xposed module but this one works for me. Just a hiccup when combined with FP unlock.
Joms_US said:
Not Xposed module but this one works for me. Just a hiccup when combined with FP unlock.
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any detrimental effect on battery life / wakelock?
Joms_US said:
Not Xposed module but this one works for me. Just a hiccup when combined with FP unlock.
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Interesting, I always thought DT2W needed kernel support. Have you had any false wakes in your pocket? That was always what killed it for me on phones that didn't have it stock. They would randomly wake up in my pocket (not using light sensor clearly)
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any detrimental effect on battery life / wakelock?
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Well it definitely has effect on battery. I will do some test today and get back here.
benjmiester said:
Interesting, I always thought DT2W needed kernel support. Have you had any false wakes in your pocket? That was always what killed it for me on phones that didn't have it stock. They would randomly wake up in my pocket (not using light sensor clearly)
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That's not a real double tap to wake. The app just runs an all black wall paper as 'off'. Since the Le pro 3 has an lcd rather than AMOLED screen, it would have a huge impact on battery life.
rocketJeff08 said:
That's not a real double tap to wake. The app just runs an all black wall paper as 'off'. Since the Le pro 3 has an lcd rather than AMOLED screen, it would have a huge impact on battery life.
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Well as far as my eyes can see, it does wake and shut of screen. Try it first before making any wild guess.
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I stand corrected, yes it does turn the screen blank only as soon as you turn of the screen via power button or the nifty (hold back) button.
So if you are not gonna use it like overnight doze or in your pocket, turn off the screen twice to make sure it is really turned off.
I noticed if one enables Double Tap to Wake feature, the lock screen wakes in one's pocket without double-tapping it. It appears if the screen is too sensitive to touch and wakes up as if one were double tapping it.
I normally carry my phone in my shirt pocket with the screen facing inwards and have noticed this happens often when walking or standing up that the screen wakens with double tap feature on.
I have now disabled this useful feature to save battery.
Please check if this is happening to you as well and post your replies.
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I noticed if one enables Double Tap to Wake feature, the lock screen wakes in one's pocket without double-tapping it. It appears if the screen is too sensitive to touch and wakes up as if one were double tapping it.
I normally carry my phone in my shirt pocket with the screen facing inwards and have noticed this happens often when walking or standing up that the screen wakens with double tap feature on.
I have now disabled this useful feature to save battery.
Please check if this is happening to you as well and post your replies.
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I also noticed that, but if I turn off the wake when you lift it feature the screen does not come on. Dbl tap works fine then.
Also def make sure that accidental touch protection is on
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I also noticed that, but if I turn off the wake when you lift it feature the screen does not come on. Dbl tap works fine then.
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My lift to wake is off and still does it.
dakalter said:
Also def make sure that accidental touch protection is on
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This is on and it still does it.
The only time it does not do this is if I place phone in my pocket with screen facing outwards. Annoying as I prefer screen to face inward for better protection.
pickwit said:
My lift to wake is off and still does it.
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Weird tested mine 50 times and it works fine.
It is sad to see that gesture to wake up from theS9 was replaced in the S10 by Lift to wake, which is actually kinda useless, well we have double tap to wake, but gesture to wake was way more badass, you felt like a jedi waking up the screen of your phone.
I used to have it enabled too. I guess it's true there is no real proximity sensor anymore ?
latino147 said:
I used to have it enabled too. I guess it's true there is no real proximity sensor anymore ?
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Furthermore the option to just call a contact by putting the phone against your ear is now gone too.... I hate when Samsung remove features from their flagships.... How hard is it for them to just use a normal proximity sensor inside or next to the speaker? Major disappointment.