Which do you prefer and why?
Have always used google voice(now) but it seems the moto one uses google now for a lot of things and expands on it.
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I agree. The Moto seems to rely on Google now for all of my commands.
Does it recognise your voice command @ all times? Maybe it's my wakeup command needs changing, I find that I have to repeat it few times before the device responds.
I like moto voice better but now it activates with out a command even in a quite room. I have a nexus 6 with Android 6.0 and it works with screen off and is better than moto voice so far.
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You have to record your voice in a very quiet environment. Otherwise your phone will be listening for weird background noise and activate at random.
I don't remember my command failing even 1 time.
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Your Google voice command or moto command?
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I like Google now better. If I tell it to call a local business, it uses search results to find the number. Moto will only dial numbers in my contacts.
Think I'm liking Google Now a bit better, but haven't used Moto voice enough to give a good reason to not use it. Gotta give it more time and then make the decision which to go with.
I've tried using only the Google Now voice commands, and I keep coming back to the Moto X commands for one main reason: I can still use voice commands when the screen is off and the phone is not charging. That's one of the big reasons I bought the OG Moto X, and it is something that is a pain point in trying to change.
Until I can ask my phone, "What's up?" with the screen off and not charging and have my phone respond, I'll stick with the Moto X voice actions.
... Actually, "What's up?" doesn't even work with the Google Now voice commands, right??
Anyone here uses Moto 360?
I was thinking in grabbing one.
Does it turns the Moto Voice from the smartphone useless?
Think I'm gonna have to go back to Google. Moto voice is activating at strange times and last night at my daughters band banquet it dialed my Pastor of all people and I heard the phone ringing, my wife is like 'is that your phone?' and then I hear 'Hello? Hello?' lol. Stupid thing....
Are you using a phrase that may be too common? I can't say I have had that happen.
'Ok Moto X'. Maybe I should change it? Didn't think that was easy to match but who knows...
Could be keying off OK too much. Mine is Moto are you ready. I never have any issues. Good luck.
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Mine is Moto make me a sandwich and it goes off once or twice a day. Feel like an idiot when my phone just randomly turns on. Probably going to turn it off. I refuse to use a more complicated phrase, then it's no longer convenient for me.
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yes moto voice uses google now for a lot of commands, but moto voice does its own things too, like when you say goodnight, putting it into sleep mode. telling you your notifications when saying "whats up"....and even ringing your phone when you say "find my phone"
moto voice is basically google now + extras
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Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
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AlexWekell said:
Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
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Just be patience and wait a few weeks.
I´m sure some developers (and Google itself) will port this feature to the nexus 4
If they even Google make this feature for the Nexus devices, I prolly won't use it because it'll prolly eat too much battery. It has to be on all the time trying to listen to your voice. Plus if you don't use Google now search feature often this feature won't benefit you.
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AlexWekell said:
Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
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yes you can do it combining 2 apps , tasker and autovoice.
Hopefully the ROM is ported since the dual moto x is optimized significantly better than the wasteland software Google put in this thing. The optimization is so ridiculous that the dual krait outperforms the quad S600. Yes the moto x is faster cause the moto engineers don't just push device into the market free fall style. /morning rant
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yes you can do it combining 2 apps , tasker and autovoice.
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But you still need some kind of trigger.
The "magic" of the moto X is the "always on" microphone with a special DSP which is capable to do the voice recognition while consuming next to nothing of energy. While current phones would be forced to do this via general CPU and would kill a battery in a pinch.
Depending on the implementation this even could be a win for privacy, since the processing is taking place locally in the phone and not somewhere "in the cloud". I would be very uncomfortable with a phone which constantly listens to me and relays it to the el goog, microsoft, apple or somebody else.
AlexWekell said:
Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
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Its an updated Google now...I received the update this morning then when you open up Google now there is a slide informing you to say OK Google now and some sample questions. Even before the update all you need to do is say Google and you can speak to it.
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But you still need some kind of trigger.
The "magic" of the moto X is the "always on" microphone with a special DSP which is capable to do the voice recognition while consuming next to nothing of energy. While current phones would be forced to do this via general CPU and would kill a battery in a pinch.
Depending on the implementation this even could be a win for privacy, since the processing is taking place locally in the phone and not somewhere "in the cloud". I would be very uncomfortable with a phone which constantly listens to me and relays it to the el goog, microsoft, apple or somebody else.
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He didn't ask if it will consume more battery on a nexus4, the same as i didn't ask why the hell would anyone want to put his nexus4 in an "always listening" mode, he wanted to know if it was possible to implement
And you don't need a trigger with the combination i mentioned, voice commands work even with screen off.
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Simple answer: wait.
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Hopefully the ROM is ported since the dual moto x is optimized significantly better than the wasteland software Google put in this thing. The optimization is so ridiculous that the dual krait outperforms the quad S600. Yes the moto x is faster cause the moto engineers don't just push device into the market free fall style. /morning rant
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And you're basing that performance from a crappy benchmark that couldn't even see the device had a dual core chip.
There is no magic sauce here. Faulty testing.
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And you're basing that performance from a crappy benchmark that couldn't even see the device had a dual core chip.
There is no magic sauce here. Faulty testing.
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I wasn't serious. :silly: And I tried that app and only get 18K which is disappointing.
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Hopefully the ROM is ported since the dual moto x is optimized significantly better than the wasteland software Google put in this thing. The optimization is so ridiculous that the dual krait outperforms the quad S600. Yes the moto x is faster cause the moto engineers don't just push device into the market free fall style. /morning rant
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Seriously, if you are gonna whine in every thread because you are not happy with your phone, just sell it and get a different phone. The N4 is not for everyone and obviously you are one of those it is not for.
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Yes, Please
This would be the most awesome feature ever. Imagine asking for the weather before you even sit up in the morning.
AlexWekell said:
Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
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check out this app folks, is under development
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.RSen.OpenMic
AlexWekell said:
Is it possible to create a setup that will allow me to feed all my questions into Google search without touch? I want to imitate the new feature from the moto X phone where I can say a hotword at anytime and I will be able to search Google now. I.e: OK Google Now: "who founded Google?" To which it would feed that as a Google search command and return the result as i had normally used Google voice search
Watch this video and see how she searches with touching anything (this is what I'm trying to achieve):
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ojhzy0u2qwrwlq23izhpy2makcrbtk
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Check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eheFXIIF1Ss
I read somewhere that the G2 was one of a few phones, aside from the Moto X and the other new Droids, that has the necessary hardware to support the software Motorola uses for the Touchless Controls, the whole "Okay Google Now" thing. Has anyone tried to port this software over to the G2 yet? I bought my mother the Moto X, and have to admit the feature is pretty cool. I would do it myself, except the fact that I don't have a clue how!! So, whose butt do I have to kiss to get this thing to work on the G2? Thanks!!!!
I dunno I kinda felt silly using the Voice Mate and saying Hello Genie.
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I dunno I kinda felt silly using the Voice Mate and saying Hello Genie.
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Yeah, I don't see using the feature all that much in public. But while I'm in my car or at home, would be nice. I do find "Okay Google Now" to be a tongue twister somehow. Try it.
toddnbrown said:
Yeah, I don't see using the feature all that much in public. But while I'm in my car or at home, would be nice. I do find "Okay Google Now" to be a tongue twister somehow. Try it.
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Yea it comes in handy I mean I've used Google Now with voice searching and dictated some texts while driving so yea it would be nice feature but those times are rare since I usually just have music going in car and rarely text or take calls when driving. Still I guess if my phone was always listening for my commands it could be cool to sit it up on a table near me while I'm doing whatever and tell it what to do.
I retrained my launch phrase to be Ok Moto Now and it works better than OK Google Now, plus it doesn't feel as stupid to say!
Cozume said:
I retrained my launch phrase to be Ok Moto Now and it works better than OK Google Now, plus it doesn't feel as stupid to say!
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Cool - just by training? Or did you change something in the system?
You probably will have many more false positives.
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yeticomes said:
Cool - just by training? Or did you change something in the system?
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yes, just by retraining.
lucfig said:
You probably will have many more false positives.
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Why, it is the same number of syllables? And Moto is somewhat an unusual word like Google.
This is actually a topic I was going to start on Reddit a few days ago. How "Ok Moto" is so much easier to say, and just makes more sense than the ridiculous phrase they came up with. It's also adding to their brand recognition every time someone sees/hears you use it.
I recall reading here that when someone looked into the code that handles decoding the phrase the original may have been "hello moto". The "OK google now" was clearly a google influence. I have tried various other word combos but none work as well as "ok google now", the code is clearly optimized for it.
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I recall reading here that when someone looked into the code that handles decoding the phrase the original may have been "hello moto". The "OK google now" was clearly a google influence. I have tried various other word combos but none work as well as "ok google now", the code is clearly optimized for it.
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I have been testing it for hours now and the OK Moto Now works better for me. YMMV.
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This is actually a topic I was going to start on Reddit a few days ago. How "Ok Moto" is so much easier to say, and just makes more sense than the ridiculous phrase they came up with. It's also adding to their brand recognition every time someone sees/hears you use it.
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ITA and it works better for me. Late at night when I am tired or if I have been drinking, I can't even pronounce Google properly, lol! Moto is so much easier to say and not as stupid sounding.
Been trying this with no success - it's as if it realizes I'm saying something other than "Ok Google Now", says "Sorry didn't catch that". Do I need to clear data?
Cozume said:
ITA and it works better for me. Late at night when I am tired or if I have been drinking, I can't even pronounce Google properly, lol! Moto is so much easier to say and not as stupid sounding.
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I dropped the "Now" entirely and so far it seems to work just fine with "OK Moto!". Will run with it until I notice any problems. It complained a bit on the 3rd training attempt, but I finally got it to accept the new phrase.
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I dropped the "Now" entirely and so far it seems to work just fine with "OK Moto!". Will run with it until I notice any problems. It complained a bit on the 3rd training attempt, but I finally got it to accept the new phrase.
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I did that, too and it is working fine for me. Much easier to say OK Moto. And no big deal to retrain if it gives me false positives.
I found just OK moto was activating it when just saying OK. By changing it to ok moto now it works just like saying OK Google now.
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Why not "Hellloooo Moto"?
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cannondale0815 said:
Why not "Hellloooo Moto"?
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I tried Hello Moto and it wouldn't take it.
For the same number of syllables, I'm surprised nobody has suggested "OK Moto X" yet.
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For the same number of syllables, I'm surprised nobody has suggested "OK Moto X" yet.
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That works, too; it is just that it responds before I even get to say "X". So it is really responding to "OK Moto".
rsage said:
Been trying this with no success - it's as if it realizes I'm saying something other than "Ok Google Now", says "Sorry didn't catch that". Do I need to clear data?
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It should say/show that your phrase is incorrect. Given enough times it will set it to whatever you say. Mine would respond to "Ok Moo Cow" but the ambient noise issues and accidental dials when I was doing nothing made me change back.
I've had numerous false activations while driving, and once while it was in my pocket. Oh well, it was worth a shot.
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Friends--
If you're like me, you've found the native 'ok google' prompt to be a much faster / more elegant solution on lollipop than the moto middleman.
We can disable the moto software and enable the google implementation, however we are never given the option for it to work while the screen is off (and unplugged). We know that the hardware is there, so I am assuming that there is a flag somewhere that we need to change.
I'm going to start exploring on my own, but anyone else who can help look / has ideas on where to look, i figured this thread could be a group development project on this.
Looking forward to this!
Anyone have a thought on where to start looking?
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After disabling Moto Voice, go to the Google Settings app -> Search & Now -> Voice -> "Ok Google" Detection.
There you can set "Ok Google" to respond then the device is locked.
tobeannouncd said:
After disabling Moto Voice, go to the Google Settings app -> Search & Now -> Voice -> "Ok Google" Detection.
There you can set "Ok Google" to respond then the device is locked.
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Thanks this works better then the Native Moto App
I still believe it won't work with the screen off and unplugged!!!!
Its possible.
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Selected that and still doesn't work with screen off
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Selected that and still doesn't work with screen off
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Sorry, you have to hit the power button first and then it'll work. I forgot about that and couldn't test at the time I posted.
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Yes. So this is exactly my point, and exactly what I'm trying to figure out
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It's terrible and unfair! Motorola says they are giving the "Pure" Android Experience, no bloatware, just adding "Value Added" Software. Thank you Motorola, but give me a CHOICE! If you are FORCING your software on me, you are no better than Verizon!
This phone HAS the Instant On Hardware, and Lollipop Fully supports it. Again, thank you Motorola for your enhancements to Google Now (for those that like them). BUT for those of us that that don't, crippling Android Functionality is NOT the answer!!!
Give it back!!!
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It's terrible and unfair! Motorola says they are giving the "Pure" Android Experience, no bloatware, just adding "Value Added" Software. Thank you Motorola, but give me a CHOICE! If you are FORCING your software on me, you are no better than Verizon!
This phone HAS the Instant On Hardware, and Lollipop Fully supports it. Again, thank you Motorola for your enhancements to Google Now (for those that like them). BUT for those of us that that don't, crippling Android Functionality is NOT the answer!!!
Give it back!!!
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Then get a different phone that has the hardware....stop your crying.
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Friends--
If you're like me, you've found the native 'ok google' prompt to be a much faster / more elegant solution on lollipop than the moto middleman.
We can disable the moto software and enable the google implementation, however we are never given the option for it to work while the screen is off (and unplugged). We know that the hardware is there, so I am assuming that there is a flag somewhere that we need to change.
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I look forward to your findings. Being able to use Ok Google from the screen off state -while- unplugged would be nice to have. I'd bet dollar to doughnuts that moto disabled the necessary flag in order to allow their Voice middleware to function properly - without giving it the ability to set it back when Voice is disabled.
I think I've read something somewhere about flag 199? It's likely I'm mistaken though.
Good luck!
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Then get a different phone that has the hardware....stop your crying.
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If you were as smart as your uncalled for, snide comment, you would KNOW it DOES have the hardware!
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If you were as smart as your uncalled for, snide comment, you would KNOW it DOES have the hardware!
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I realize that it does have the hardware....that is proprietary to Motorola. I was suggesting that you find a different phone that suits your needs.
Your right, it was uncalled for. Just as much as your baby rant.
So, back to being helpful. Have you tried tasker at all? I know there is a way with xposed and tasker, but we don't have xposed as of yet...
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It's terrible and unfair! Motorola says they are giving the "Pure" Android Experience, no bloatware, just adding "Value Added" Software. Thank you Motorola, but give me a CHOICE! If you are FORCING your software on me, you are no better than Verizon!
This phone HAS the Instant On Hardware, and Lollipop Fully supports it. Again, thank you Motorola for your enhancements to Google Now (for those that like them). BUT for those of us that that don't, crippling Android Functionality is NOT the answer!!!
Give it back!!!
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The hardware in the Moto X 2014 was designed to work with Motorola's implementation of screen-off voice recognition. Unfortunately the phone came out just a little too early to have the "standard" Google implementation since phones supporting that did not start coming out until ~1 month later.
It's not that easy
The X8 processing core in this device comes with a Natural Language Computing Processor NLCP core built in, which is a proprietary low power implementation. Therefore, the software portion that handles the output from the core is custom made by Motorola, and is not something that you find in the Android source tree, because a low power LCP core like the X8 never existed before. Similarly, the 'Ok Google' implementation is Google's proprietary implementation, part of the Google Suite of Applications, only to be installed as add-ons on devices that are compatible with 'Android Compatibility Definition Document'. The apps provided by Google usually do not undergo any OEM customizations.
To conclude, it's not as easy as enabling/ disabling a flag in the Android source to link to proprietary implementations from different vendors together.
P.S - Google's 'Ok Google' may work from from all the screens including a secure lock screen, but it cannot leverage the low power LCP core. This will impact your battery life !!!
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Its possible.
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Yeah got it to work yesterday (with the screen off) for about 2 hours. Then it started not to work at all. Went back to Moto native app and its hit and miss with the app. hopefully it get fix cause its pretty annoying that the reason why i got this phone is because of this feature.
Not only the response is slower and unstable but it is limited to a single person..
Native ok google never fails... Its quicker.. And allows my girlfriend to give commands to the phone on the car along with me...
This thread has a simple tasker profile to do this. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1rfqsj/psa_note_3_has_always_listening_out_of_the_box/
That doesn't help me, since I would like the option to use both at the same time. What chip is the nexus 6 using, I thought they were close. Both TI dsps right? Would it be possible to trick now into thinking it is on a Nexus 6?
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This thread has a simple tasker profile to do this. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1rfqsj/psa_note_3_has_always_listening_out_of_the_box/
That doesn't help me, since I would like the option to use both at the same time. What chip is the nexus 6 using, I thought they were close. Both TI dsps right? Would it be possible to trick now into thinking it is on a Nexus 6?
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Its the exact same chip. We should be able to have that feature working on ours as well. We'd have a better chance if we reach out to Motorola to make it possible. Just like switching on the ambient display, they should let us chose between google now or moto voice!
Keep reading how Google Assistant will be pushed out to all Android 6 and 7 phones starting this week. I'm assuming we'll have on the Moto Z but, when it arrives, how will I know I've got it? Does Google Now go away, replace with Google Assistant? Is this a good thing? I have no idea what to expect.
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Keep reading how Google Assistant will be pushed out to all Android 6 and 7 phones starting this week. I'm assuming we'll have on the Moto Z but, when it arrives, how will I know I've got it? Does Google Now go away, replace with Google Assistant? Is this a good thing? I have no idea what to expect.
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I just got it didn't notice until I tried to long press the home button for now on tap then it popped up.
One cool thing I've noticed is saying okay google launches the assistant but pressing the mic on the top search bar let you use google now. So if I want it to read my last text message I use the mic. Best of both worlds.
I don't use moto voice it has slowed down considerably as of late, and okay google runs smoother.
Hope this answers your question. Also I'm in the midwest (minnesota) and it launched tonight.
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I just got it didn't notice until I tried to long press the home button for now on tap then it popped up.
One cool thing I've noticed is saying okay google launches the assistant but pressing the mic on the top search bar let you use google now. So if I want it to read my last text message I use the mic. Best of both worlds.
I don't use moto voice it has slowed down considerably as of late, and okay google runs smoother.
Hope this answers your question. Also I'm in the midwest (minnesota) and it launched tonight.
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Wow.. must be moving west to east! I'm in Virginia and just long-pressed the home button and was greeted with the notice that "You just got the Google Assistant!"
Guess I'll be able to find out for myself now what all the fuss is about!
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Keep reading how Google Assistant will be pushed out to all Android 6 and 7 phones starting this week. I'm assuming we'll have on the Moto Z but, when it arrives, how will I know I've got it? Does Google Now go away, replace with Google Assistant? Is this a good thing? I have no idea what to expect.
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I just got it tonight, 3/9/17, Verizon Moto Z Force, in New York City.
I've been long pressing the home button all week to no avail. It just worked tonight, at 10:00pm.
Just got it this morning 3/10/17, Moto Z Force in Wichita, KS.
Just got it this morning, z force, Chicago.
Huh. Just got google assistant apparently. Z-Force in Canada.
Ive also got the assistant. It seems to be a real battery drain though. Has anyone else noticed?