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Epic another #1 ranking.....

PC World ranks Epic #1
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/1671/top_10_cell_phones.html

Now that the upload is fixed, that was the only real complaint I had left. Android 2.2 will be nice sure, but the phone kicks ass as it is.

Firon said:
Now that the upload is fixed, that was the only real complaint I had left. Android 2.2 will be nice sure, but the phone kicks ass as it is.
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I agree....only thing I was worried about was support...but it seems they are on top of the ****....I love the phone!

For PC world to rank this phone as #1 they are smoking something over there.
While it is a GREAT phone. If this is the ABSOLUTE TOP PHONE that HUMAN BEINGS can produce right now, we are a sad sad world.
What about the droid X that not only scores higher, but gets better 3g speeds and doesn't have a gps lock problem out of the box?

J3ff said:
For PC world to rank this phone as #1 they are smoking something over there.
While it is a GREAT phone. If this is the ABSOLUTE TOP PHONE that HUMAN BEINGS can produce right now, we are a sad sad world.
What about the droid X that not only scorews higher, but gets better 3g speeds and doesn't have a gps lock problem out of the box?
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why are you here? Are you a troll? Everytime I come to. This forum your complaining. Trade in your epic and go get the droid x.
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itsmebryan said:
why are you here? Are you a troll? Everytime I come to. This form your complaining. Trade in your epic and go get the droid x.
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I'm not really complaining - I'm just pointing out that pc world has rated a phone #1 when it has glaring issues and that if this is really the best phone in the country. Well.........wow.

J3ff said:
For PC world to rank this phone as #1 they are smoking something over there.
While it is a GREAT phone. If this is the ABSOLUTE TOP PHONE that HUMAN BEINGS can produce right now, we are a sad sad world.
What about the droid X that not only scores higher, but gets better 3g speeds and doesn't have a gps lock problem out of the box?
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Have you used a droid x after the 2.2 update? The damn application menu scrolls at something close to 15 fps. I love the build quality of the hardware but damn moto blur sucks. (i'm not a huge fan of touchwiz either, but at least it's not running at a wholly unacceptable framerate.... a little bit of disclosure, i'm an animator so crappy frame rate REALLY bothers me.)

houkah said:
Have you used a droid x after the 2.2 update? The damn application menu scrolls at something close to 15 fps. I love the build quality of the hardware but damn moto blur sucks. (i'm not a huge fan of touchwiz either, but at least it's not running at a wholly unacceptable framerate.... a little bit of disclosure, i'm an animator so crappy frame rate REALLY bothers me.)
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Yup. I wouldn't touch a Droid X. Thing is choppy as hell. Besides, our GPU blows it out of the water.

Even though I love my Epic, the subpar battery life makes me disagree about it being rated # 1. It's really close I think but I'm not 100% there yet.
Let's see what 2.2 brings and then we can assess it better then. I love this phone much though. :-*
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...

J3ff said:
For PC world to rank this phone as #1 they are smoking something over there.
While it is a GREAT phone. If this is the ABSOLUTE TOP PHONE that HUMAN BEINGS can produce right now, we are a sad sad world.
What about the droid X that not only scores higher, but gets better 3g speeds and doesn't have a gps lock problem out of the box?
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What is hard to believe about Epic being #1? If you think all phones aside from the Epic are perfect out of box you are kidding..in perspective the issues that the Epic came out with weren't so bad in comparison to many other devices....
Anyways..sprint made a bunch of funny commercials based on getting the #1 from pc-world:
http://www.sprint.com/epic/

gTen said:
What is hard to believe about Epic being #1? If you think all phones aside from the Epic are perfect out of box you are kidding..in perspective the issues that the Epic came out with weren't so bad in comparison to many other devices....
Anyways..sprint made a bunch of funny commercials based on getting the #1 from pc-world:
http://www.sprint.com/epic/
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What up Gten......bro dont get started with Jeff...he has been whining for a bit now.....I am still trying to figure out why he still has the phone.......take it back Jeff!!!!!!!!!....lol......all in fun bro.....no offense....

flyers2114 said:
What up Gten......bro dont get started with Jeff...he has been whining for a bit now.....I am still trying to figure out why he still has the phone.......take it back Jeff!!!!!!!!!....lol......all in fun bro.....no offense....
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Maybe he is a sadist? lol...but yeah If someone doesn't like the phone they should just take it back..
Oh and I'm fine...finally happy I got MobileAP working and everything..wish it would transfer more of the 4g speeds but I guess its still faster then 3g a bit :/...
And I suggest watching the Epic Hero one..its the best lol

Listen guys, I don't mean to just sit here and bash my phone. The truth is I want to love it!
Today was a better day for me and my epic. The gps did a good job out on the boat and with the upload fixed I'm doing better.
IMHO a phone that is rated #1 should have NO ISSUES at all. While I realize that's never going to happen. It's a sad statement on our technology that something with multiple problems on launch day is rated #1

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IMHO a phone that is rated #1 should have NO ISSUES at all. While I realize that's never going to happen. It's a sad statement on our technology that something with multiple problems on launch day is rated #1
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That makes no sense. Issues or not, someone's gotta be #1. This is the best phone, and the droid x is weak in comparison.
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p-niiice said:
That makes no sense. Issues or not, someone's gotta be #1. This is the best phone, and the droid x is weak in comparison.
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Nexus 2.2 ?

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Nexus 2.2 ?
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The Nexus One wasn't even meant to be a consumer phone..that said, its not like Nexus One is flawless out of the bag. and in their ratings my guess they went off stock on when it came out initially aka 2.1.
That said Nexus One still got #6 which is not too bad considering...

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That makes no sense. Issues or not, someone's gotta be #1. This is the best phone, and the droid x is weak in comparison.
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Yeap...It is what it is

This phone to me is perfect with a root doesn't even need a custom rom.....now if it could only make me a sammich mmmmm

PC World must be on Crack!
Yes the phone has top notch specs/feature, but it doesn't seem to do anything well ... Other then the pix and vids it takes.
I'm not saying PC World is on crack because I feel it's a bad phone. I just don't think it should be ranked #1 because of all the problems everyone's been seeing.
The biggest issue is that GPS is broken, even though Sprint/Samsung stated it was fixed just before launch. The compass doesn't work either. And until just the other day, the upload was capped.
I also don't think they (Sprint/Samsung) will ever get the GPS "Fixed" because I feel it's a hardware or design issue. I say this because the GPS problem is on all the Galaxy S phones, so Samsung has had plenty of time to get it fixed, if software could fix it. I hope I am proven wrong on this....
I also don't know if it was done on Sprint's request, but there's no video out on the 3.5mm jack and no FM radio, even though the hardware is supposedly there. What happened? It makes no sense to not have the video out, when all the other Galaxy S phones do.
I'm not saying this phone isn't a good phone. I just think it should be ranked #1, with the problems it has.

crabjoe said:
Yes the phone has top notch specs/feature, but it doesn't seem to do anything well.
I'm not saying PC World is on crack because I feel it's a bad phone. I just don't think it should be ranked #1 because of all the problems everyone's been seeing.
The biggest issue is that GPS is broken, even though Sprint/Samsung stated it was fixed just before launch. The compass doesn't work either. And until just the other day, the upload was capped.
I also don't think they (Sprint/Samsung) will very get the GPS "Fixed" because I feel it's a hardware or design issue. I say this because the GPS problem is on all the Galaxy S phones, so Samsung has had plenty of time to get it fixed, if software could fix it. I hope I am proven wrong on this....
I also don't know if it was done on Sprint's request, but there's no video out on the 3.5mm jack and no FM radio, even though the hardware is supposedly there. What happened? It makes no sense to not have the video out, when all the other Galaxy S phones do.
I'm not saying this phone isn't a good phone. I just think it should be ranked #1, with the problems it has.
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I feel the same way, you just have a more eloquent of saying it.

Buying a Nexus One - Few queries

Hi guys, I m buying a Nexus One. I just have a few queries regarding the phone.
1: The N1 is running on OS 2.3.6 but the Quadrant scores are around 1100. Is it because its not rooted? Any good custom kernels available?
2: How's the performance of the phone? I mean HD gaming, 3D, etc. I own a Galaxy S and its variant from T-Mobile (Vibrant) and do not want to get disappointed by the performance of N1.
3: Any known issues/checks that I need to do before buying the phone?
Last question: Any hardware/software bugs?
Comments much appreciated.
Thanks,
Dinesh.

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Hi guys, I m buying a Nexus One. I just have a few queries regarding the phone.
1: The N1 is running on OS 2.3.6 but the Quadrant scores are around 1100. Is it because its not rooted? Any good custom kernels available?
2: How's the performance of the phone? I mean HD gaming, 3D, etc. I own a Galaxy S and its variant from T-Mobile (Vibrant) and do not want to get disappointed by the performance of N1.
3: Any known issues/checks that I need to do before buying the phone?
Last question: Any hardware/software bugs?
Comments much appreciated.
Thanks,
Dinesh.
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I can't answering the first two question's simply because I don't really do gaming and quadrant tests on mine.
-The Power Button on the N1 is a problem or could be a problem. You will see several members on here have had this issue. I personally have had to send mine back to HTC to get the power button fixed.
- The touchscreen sucks flat out lol. This is a known issue as well. Only thing you can do is turn it on and off and the screen will be calibrated again.
- Limited room for apps on the internal memory. That is when you do some kind of apps to sd type thing.
Aside from that it really is a great phone. I enjoy mine.

While I love my N1 to death (and will have a seriously hard time parting with it when I decide to upgrade), I can't honestly recommend this phone to anyone anymore. There are sooo many other phones out there with better hardware for the same price or less. The limited internal space of the N1 is a huge downfall. Granted, that can be alleviated a bit with various app2sdext options out there, but that is a hassle. Also, as hogg2500 mentioned, the powerbutton and touchscreen issues are really problematic.
Save yourself the money and get a more modern phone. The N1 is almost 2 years old, and while it was an awesome phone for its time (and it still holds up fairly well the newer competition), for the current price and the specs of the device, I just don't think it is worth it to buy.

lifehijack said:
Hi guys, I m buying a Nexus One. I just have a few queries regarding the phone.
1: The N1 is running on OS 2.3.6 but the Quadrant scores are around 1100. Is it because its not rooted? Any good custom kernels available?
2: How's the performance of the phone? I mean HD gaming, 3D, etc. I own a Galaxy S and its variant from T-Mobile (Vibrant) and do not want to get disappointed by the performance of N1.
3: Any known issues/checks that I need to do before buying the phone?
Last question: Any hardware/software bugs?
Comments much appreciated.
Thanks,
Dinesh.
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1. quadrant scores mean nothing. i mean.. literally.. nothing. dont worry about it..
2. the n1 runs games very smoothly.. havent had any problems as long as you dont have 424252534 apps running at once lol
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- the problem of low internal storage means nothing when you have a class 6 microsd with a2sd or s2e
- some people have a power button problem. ive never faced this.
- the touchscreen works. the problem is, sometimes it gets a little weird thinking youre pushing buttons youre not close to lol. on certain kernels it happens often, but on others it rarely ever happens. also, multitouch has the axis crossing problem like most phones from its time. even my buddys nexus s sort of has that problem.
theres not much more i could ask for. (a slide-out qwerty woulda been nice ) although its almost reaching 2 years of age i can still use this phone for a few years. theres nothing new that has caught my attention in both hardware features and design.. theyre just little upgrades here and there. nothing to WOW me..
btw, there are 2 versions. AMOLED and SLCD.. the amoled has very clean looking colours..blacks are BLACK you know but with slcd you get a sharper crisper picture though.

Agree with bass and grimey,
But if you are paying 250.00 or more, actually more than 199.00, I would wait for the Nexus Prime
But, as bass said there are some awesome phones out there, many have Sense which some don't like
I am waiting for the Prime and ICS
Also, depends on your needs and expectations of your next phone--there are two big issues with N1 as mentioned--Pwr Button and Touchscreen are BIG. I also think Signal Strength sucks--IMHO

Go for the desire S,better hardware for the same price,and it looks better!

One of the nicest features of the N1 is the illuminated trackball.

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Go for the desire S,better hardware for the same price,and it looks better!
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i really REALLY wanted this phone but it didnt support AWS (1700mhz/2100mhz) .. but atleast i get a very useful colourful trackball

I just bought a N1 today off craigslist. Glad you asked these questions so i knew what to look for when i was buying. I followed all the advice of the other posters and i didn't find any problems at the time of purchase or after. Granted i've only had it for a few hours but just heed the advice given above check for the problems noted.

My N1 is still going strong. No power button issues, never really had any touch screen issues. Internal storage is a bit small. I think it really depends on what you want it for. As a PHONE (which all these devices really are first and foremost), it is one of the best call quality phones around. I always have a great conversation. Never dropped a call, and no static either, or any issues with voice at all. The earpiece may be a bit low for some, but it's fine for me. All current day apps run silky smooth. I Haven't found one that doesn't work. I haven't rooted it, but I have used "SetInstallLocation 2", so apps that aren't meant to be on the SD I now have there, so room really isn't an issue. I love the trackball notifications. All in all it's a great phone that still holds its own today. The look, feel, and finish makes it 1st class all the way.

bobbyphoenix said:
My N1 is still going strong. No power button issues, never really had any touch screen issues. Internal storage is a bit small. I think it really depends on what you want it for. As a PHONE (which all these devices really are first and foremost), it is one of the best call quality phones around. I always have a great conversation. Never dropped a call, and no static either, or any issues with voice at all. The earpiece may be a bit low for some, but it's fine for me. All current day apps run silky smooth. I Haven't found one that doesn't work. I haven't rooted it, but I have used "SetInstallLocation 2", so apps that aren't meant to be on the SD I now have there, so room really isn't an issue. I love the trackball notifications. All in all it's a great phone that still holds its own today. The look, feel, and finish makes it 1st class all the way.
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What notifications app do you use?

bobbyphoenix said:
I haven't rooted it, but I have used "SetInstallLocation 2", so apps that aren't meant to be on the SD I now have there, so room really isn't an issue.
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OMG, thank you for this. Had never heard about it (and have remained unrooted). Just gave myself a pile of extra space. Phone seems speedier now, too.

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None. The stock notifications work well enough for me. White=Call, Blue=Text, Green=Message. I may have them mixed up, but they flash different for each instance.

bobbyphoenix said:
None. The stock notifications work well enough for me. White=Call, Blue=Text, Green=Message. I may have them mixed up, but they flash different for each instance.
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AFAIK stock notifications were all white! (until they stopped working)

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AFAIK stock notifications were all white! (until they stopped working)
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It used to be all white until I think FroYo. They definitely change colors now on stock Gingerbread.

Considering Switch from Moto X 2014

So here is a question for you guys. Looking for some opinions on switching my 2014 Moto X to a Xperia Z3. Here is my pros and cons for the switch so far. Pro, unreal battery life and expandable storage. Cons are the software side of things, bloatware and skin, slow updates and consequences for unlocking the bootloader. I currently am enjoying the Moto X but the battery life and lack of storage (I have the Telus version so I was stuck with 16GB) is starting to get to me. I barely have anything on the phone and I am almost out of space.
I really do want the Z3 but I don't know how hard it will be to live with Sony's bloatware and slower updates. I would love to unlock and root it but the whole DRM thing just seems to penalize people way to much for it. Anyway I guess what I am asking you guys as owners is how easy is it to live with the Sony bloatware (how much of it can be removed) and for those that have unlocked the bootloader, are there that many negatives?
I have until the 13th to take my phone back an exchange it for the Z3. Should I do it?

You can adb to block a lot of sony's packages. However, rooting might take a while. I'm debating on switching to the n4 just because I hate the feeling without root.

Don't you will die without root and if you unlock the bl you will miss out on many stuff.

BrendenDonaher said:
So here is a question for you guys. Looking for some opinions on switching my 2014 Moto X to a Xperia Z3. Here is my pros and cons for the switch so far. Pro, unreal battery life and expandable storage. Cons are the software side of things, bloatware and skin, slow updates and consequences for unlocking the bootloader. I currently am enjoying the Moto X but the battery life and lack of storage (I have the Telus version so I was stuck with 16GB) is starting to get to me. I barely have anything on the phone and I am almost out of space.
I really do want the Z3 but I don't know how hard it will be to live with Sony's bloatware and slower updates. I would love to unlock and root it but the whole DRM thing just seems to penalize people way to much for it. Anyway I guess what I am asking you guys as owners is how easy is it to live with the Sony bloatware (how much of it can be removed) and for those that have unlocked the bootloader, are there that many negatives?
I have until the 13th to take my phone back an exchange it for the Z3. Should I do it?
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I made the switch from X to Z3 and I haven't looked back. Storage was horrible. 10gb on a 16gb phone. Might as well just use a dumb phone if we don't want to store anything.
Phone feels great in hand and the updates are great but haven't missed anything much on Z3. You don't really need updates since everything basically works, you have SD option, water resistant, sound quality is better than Z2 so that is a plus and it's just a better package IMHO overall.
As much as I love Motorola, no SD card and less storage along with tiny battery has killed it for me.

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I made the switch from X to Z3 and I haven't looked back. Storage was horrible. 10gb on a 16gb phone. Might as well just use a dumb phone if we don't want to store anything.
Phone feels great in hand and the updates are great but haven't missed anything much on Z3. You don't really need updates since everything basically works, you have SD option, water resistant, sound quality is better than Z2 so that is a plus and it's just a better package IMHO overall.
As much as I love Motorola, no SD card and less storage along with tiny battery has killed it for me.
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You don't find the skin horrible or the bloat unmanageable? Those are my only real hesitations. Which moto X were you coming from first or second gen?

Well root is there, just happens that you **** up the camera with it

I took 3 days to decide what to buy (moto x vs z3)
I got the z3 simply because of better low light imaging, amazingly better battery, more storage etc
The only 2 things that was better in moto x was art availability and faster updates
I have the z3 now! You decide carefully before buying!

It is tough because I have the X 2014 now, and I am liking it but to me it is just another phone. The enhancements are nice but when I am working next semester and the battery life will be the biggest benefit to me. I think I am going to do it.

BrendenDonaher said:
You don't find the skin horrible or the bloat unmanageable? Those are my only real hesitations. Which moto X were you coming from first or second gen?
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There is no such thing as perfect phone. You have to really weigh what benefits you and go with it. Skin bothers me a little but not as much as the storage or battery. I use apex launcher and use all the features it has and hide all the apps that I don't like (the ones I can't disable). It's really not that bad once you get to realize how much better of a package Z3 is. Of course, people will say otherwise on X forum. I had 1st gen before I got 2nd gen. 1st gen 16gb had more available then 2nd gen 16gb and they held back a little with the 2nd gen IMHO.

Yeah you are right. I can hide the apps with a launcher and all will be well. I shall go swap it tonight.

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Yeah you are right. I can hide the apps with a launcher and all will be well. I shall go swap it tonight.
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May the forZ3 be with you
I know it's dumb but the nerd inside me had to..lol

Just got home with the Z3. Loving it so far. I actually really like the UI tweaks Sony made and after I disable the bloatware as much as I can I'll be happy

BrendenDonaher said:
Just got home with the Z3. Loving it so far. I actually really like the UI tweaks Sony made and after I disable the bloatware as much as I can I'll be happy
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make sure to disable the small apps and the one widget that is next to google now...

monomojao said:
make sure to disable the small apps and the one widget that is next to google now...
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I disabled the whats new via ADB. Anyone have the commands to disable the rest of what can be done via ADB?

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I disabled the whats new via ADB. Anyone have the commands to disable the rest of what can be done via ADB?
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You can do "pm list packages" which will list all of the packages on your phone. These are the ones i did:
pm block com.sonymobile.advancedwidget.entrance
pm block com.sony.smallapp.app.widget
pm block com.sony.smallapp.launcher

monomojao said:
make sure to disable the small apps and the one widget that is next to google now...
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Why? Not that I use them that often but the smallapps quicknote app is pretty handy now and then...

BrendenDonaher said:
Well root is there, just happens that you **** up the camera with it
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IMO, the camera is already a piece of junk.

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make sure to disable the small apps and the one widget that is next to google now...
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mocsharp said:
IMO, the camera is already a piece of junk.
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Been messing around with it for a bit. Not bad considering I came from an N5 and Moto X...

mocsharp said:
IMO, the camera is already a piece of junk.
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Sony's software for the cam sucks, especially in auto, try manual its fairly good. Night shots are much better than my G2.

Do you know which package the What's New option is? I really need that to get out of my swipe up process for Google Now! Haha
Edit: I'm an idiot. Tried the first one mentioned and it worked. You guys are awesome.

Why the bad ram management is still present ?

Looks at all this quick reviews, all show that the S7 still sucks with the ram management...
https://youtu.be/NPjb71yfWAk?t=452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV0rL0EQz30&feature=youtu.be&t=394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sssTg8cwYE4
There are a lot more that prove this...
I like the phone, but can't buy it for this problem.

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DoKaTSuYa said:
Looks at all this quick reviews, all show that the S7 still sucks with the ram management...
https://youtu.be/NPjb71yfWAk?t=452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV0rL0EQz30&feature=youtu.be&t=394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sssTg8cwYE4
There are a lot more that prove this...
I like the phone, but can't buy it for this problem.
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Its amazing this problem still exists. I also was waiting to see if this was fixed. It must have to do
with the bloatware Samsung apps because on the Nexus 6P this does not exit at all.
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you wont buy the phone because it is a big deal for you to wait for one second to refresh after opening 7 apps..thats just one stupid reason to not get this phone

hello00 said:
you wont buy the phone because it is a big deal for you to wait for one second to refresh after opening 7 apps..thats just one stupid reason to not get this phone
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Because all the others phone, don't have this problem, HTC, Sony LG, and especially a Nexus and IPhone.
So I think that's actually more stupid to buy something when you know it has some problems.
And it's not 7 apps, it just need one 3D games and it fails...
So just fix this problem, that's it.
And when it's a game, it's not one second, you have to wait all the loads since the beginning and more, you have to restart the mission, so you lost at your mission. Wow !

Don't buy it if you don't like it. Simple as that.
People and their existential problems.

lhrrob said:
Don't buy it if you don't like it. Simple as that.
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I like it like I said, but can't buy it... not simple as that actually

Just left the iPhone and apps refresh also.
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It's not a problem because people don't use 7 apps at the same time and expect them to open on demand.
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Wow and in one review only one app refreshed. Lol. Some people are funny. If you don't want the phone done buy it. People need to stop trying to taint others perception of things just so they can feel the made a good choice. The S7 edge performed great and looks phenomenal with that edge to edge display against the Sony phone; and the Nexus phone just looks ugly to me.
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Cyberguycpt said:
Wow and in one review only one app refreshed. Lol. Some people are funny. If you don't want the phone done buy it. People need to stop trying to taint others perception of things just so the can feel the made a good choice. The S7 edge performed great and looks phenomenal with that edge to edge display against the Sony phone and the Nexus phone just looks ugly to me.
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There's no just one app refreshed unfortunately, but yes the phone looks good that's why people like it, if it used to looks like the S5, meeeh, I don't think people will just say "ohh you know there's only one app refreshed".

DoKaTSuYa said:
Because all the others phone, don't have this problem, HTC, Sony LG, and especially a Nexus and IPhone.
So I think that's actually more stupid to buy something when you know it has some problems.
And it's not 7 apps, it just need one 3D games and it fails...
So just fix this problem, that's it.
And when it's a game, it's not one second, you have to wait all the loads since the beginning and more, you have to restart the mission, so you lost at your mission. Wow !
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Let's be clear. EVERY phone has problems. EVERY. SINGLE. PHONE. It always has been and always will be a balance of weighing the pros and the cons.
It's absolutely naive to suggest otherwise.

Well, somehow the S7 in this test/video has no issues with RAM management at all. 3 games and 3 apps (like YouTube) open at the same time. Seems to be no problem.
Maybe it depends on the chip? The phone in this video uses the Exynos.
For my preference it is fine. It's more than I would use simultaneously on a normal day (I have tha habit to close all apps regularly).

DoKaTSuYa said:
There's no just one app refreshed unfortunately, but yes the phone looks good that's why people like it, if it used to looks like the S5, meeeh, I don't think people will just say "ohh you know there's only one app refreshed".
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Well in the videos posted, one doesn't play and in Erica's review that was a prereleased model so we don't know if a software update happened between the video and time of release. And in the last video temple run refreshed and subway surfers crashed due to it being a crappy app. So I'm only counting one. But yeah im a IPhone reconvert and the S7 edge was the first phone in over a year and a half that even made me look at Android again and that's saying a lot. And don't get me started on that LG phone it looks hideous too, but that's only my opinion.
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Im pretty sure the average person doesn't use more than 3 apps at the same time, unless you have ADHD, which makes whole different story !

I've just underlined the problem, it's not big as with the S6's one but it still present, that's it and for me it's a big problem.
Samsung just need to fix this, but they take forever, it software not hardware, does it bring better battery life ? I don't think so because the S6 was not awesome at this point. It just Touchwizz still not at point.
I don't care about USB Type-C or Quick Charge 3.0, but I care about this ram management. It's not a small problem, it's not like the picture is not good as I expected, no it's a software problem, imagine your computer can't keep apps in background. Shame.

DoKaTSuYa said:
I've just underlined the problem, it's not big as with the S6's one but it still present, that's it and for me it's a big problem.
Samsung just need to fix this, but they take forever, it software not hardware, does it bring better battery life ? I don't think so because the S6 was not awesome at this point. It just Touchwizz still not at point.
I don't care about USB Type-C or Quick Charge 3.0, but I care about this ram management. It's not a small problem, it's not like the picture is not good as I expected, no it's a software problem, imagine your computer can't keep apps in background. Shame.
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Well it's that your deal breaker than thats your deal breaker. Your not going to change any minds here just like no one here is going to change your mind. I look at phones as a total package not just one thing. So for me the galaxy s7 edge has all that I need.
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DoKaTSuYa said:
Looks at all this quick reviews, all show that the S7 still sucks with the ram management...
https://youtu.be/NPjb71yfWAk?t=452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV0rL0EQz30&feature=youtu.be&t=394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sssTg8cwYE4
There are a lot more that prove this...
I like the phone, but can't buy it for this problem.
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There could be a specific reason why that game refreshed that has nothing to do with ram. If some of the other apps didn't open I could see it as an issue.
Also your second example is ridiculous to post. You don't even know that is final software.
So basically one app refreshed.

Honestly, I still confused about meaning of bad RAM management.. As long as the performance doesn't decreased too much, I won't tell the phone has bad RAM management.. That's why Samsung provide Smart Manager to maintain the phone to its top performance although I don't recommend to clean RAM too often because Android has a features that will close a rarely use apps.

fernando sor said:
There could be a specific reason why that game refreshed that has nothing to do with ram. If some of the other apps didn't open I could see it as an issue.
Also your second example is ridiculous to post. You don't even know that is final software.
So basically one app refreshed.
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Your post is ridiculous, because the other videos are sure final software !
And more, the S6 is still not final software ? like really, Don't be dumb.

overall galaxy S7 Edge is the best phone you can buy right now.
Good points about the phone outweigh the bad points.
For most people its not a deal breaker if 1 or 2 app refreshed in the background.
I will still buy the phone if i was you.

Who is returning their OnePlus 5? [MEGA THREAD]

So who is not satisfied with their OnePlus 5 and wants to return is using the 15 day no-hassle return system. If you can please state your reason why.

I'm not returning it, because my unit is not defective, and it's a great phone. Sure, it's not perfect, and the camera isn't that it was hyped to be, but it's still an amazingly snappy phone at a not unreasonable cost.

You should have an option for not returning as that's the question you've asked.

for design reasons '? really ? you guys need a kick on your head...

I'm still testing my phone but for now, i'm really not impressed by the camera. After 7 years of using iPhone i finally decided to buy an Android phone. OnePlus 5 is a beast in terms of performance. But even my iPhone 6 can make better photos sometimes and video recording is all blurry and can't focus at all. If I keep OP5, i will keep it just for near stock android experience but i'm not sure yet. Maybe i will wait for Pixel 2 and hope for some reasonable price.

returned, camera *****
other things ok

Really? You guys knew what the phone was like before you bought it.

Hastaloego said:
for design reasons '? really ? you guys need a kick on your head...
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Agreed. I mean you saw what the phone looked like before you ordered it...

white43 said:
Really? You guys knew what the phone was like before you bought it.
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No i didn't know that the camera can be so bad i. I can't record any video without having focus issues. Even the code was Clearer Photos but it's not the case at all.

im very happy with the phone and camera. However, I came from the Honor 8 to this one, so the upgrade was extreme. And both cameras on this phone seem to be working extremely well after the update released yesterday(or saturday?). with that said video recording might still need some tweaking in 4K mode without using a stabilizer aside from that, i have no good reason to return this phone.

i don't know why people are bashing on the phone for terrible photo's? especially after the update from yesterday the phone makes pretty good images. would love to know a phone which has a better one under 500 euro's

roba93 said:
i don't know why people are bashing on the phone for terrible photo's? especially after the update from yesterday the phone makes pretty good images. would love to know a phone which has a better one under 500 euro's
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Seems people was expecting a true DSLR camera on a 500$ phone. Come on people, think about yourself 10 seconds please.

casual_kikoo said:
Seems people was expecting a true DSLR camera on a 500$ phone. Come on people, think about yourself 10 seconds please.
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true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$

roba93 said:
true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
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Totally agree !

roba93 said:
true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
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+1

roba93 said:
true .. funny thing is, the camera will probably get alot better after a couple of software patches.
So if your that irritated by the * bad * camera get yourself an S8 bloatware phone for just 800$
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I think its more that OP made the camera a big selling point. I never really expected it to be as good as the Pixel or S8 but more about a step below. This camera seems to be much much worse than what people were expecting
I hate Samsung and would never buy a galaxy but I have to admit with recent deals, the S8 would be a better phone to buy

worldsoutro said:
I think its more that OP made the camera a big selling point. I never really expected it to be as good as the Pixel or S8 but more about a step below. This camera seems to be much much worse than what people were expecting
I hate Samsung and would never buy a galaxy but I have to admit with recent deals, the S8 would be a better phone to buy
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Yeah, I agree with you when you say that they made their selling point on the camera. But don't forget the fact that it can change a lot with software update, and maybe we are only at the beginning of a great journey with it. Look, already an update yesterday.
With every iteration of OnePlus, I think it was like this: many updates. to improve software sides of components.

roba93 said:
i don't know why people are bashing on the phone for terrible photo's? especially after the update from yesterday the phone makes pretty good images. would love to know a phone which has a better one under 500 euro's
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s7 edge

submitted an RMA already, Wifi hotspot issue w/ Echo Dot music playback...

paulyz said:
s7 edge
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I had An s7 before the op5 and most definitly its slower/worse battery/camera slow as hell. So sorry but no lol