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Hey guys,
I'm feeling rather enterprising at the moment. The question is, what would it take to get a clean/stock/aosp version of Gingerbread up and running for the Verizon Fascinate? Could an XPrize style reward work? If so how much would it need to be? $1000? less? A LOT MORE? Thoughts? PLEASE ANYBODY, THOUGHTS? I need replys from devs and non-devs... If there is enough interest we could easily setup a prize fund and have it auto-refund people if the prize was not attained within a given time frame...anybody?
/Andrew
UPDATE 1: I'm totally gonna set this up! See my latest post (pg.4) for more details and new questions.
UPDATE 2:
(1) Money is the strongest motivating force that we can use.
(2) Refunds will be available should you change your mind about supporting the XPRIZE.
(3) Waiting for an official release is futile. They are MONTHS behind on a Froyo release, and we will all likely have new phones with HoneyComb before we get gingerbread through official channels.
(4) The CDMA radio is understandable the biggest obstacle, money should at least get people to work more aggressively to fix this or pursue a leak.
(5) beg, borrow, steal, i want a true google experience with the ability to RULE THE AIR, on verizon.
"Can you hear me now?"
come on guys, i can tell this is getting a few views, just add a quick reply and say, that you think this a good or bad idea...please
Sounds appealing, but I don't think this is the ideal phone developers would want to spend time on. I'm using this phone simply as a bridge to the Nexus S.
i can understand the nexus S appeal, but i imagine there are many people who wouldn't want to leave Verizon. In fact i ditched my iphone not only because Steve Jobs is a prick, but more importantly because Verizon has a much better network...
trojjanhorse said:
Sounds appealing, but I don't think this is the ideal phone developers would want to spend time on. I'm using this phone simply as a bridge to the Nexus S.
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Oh, and it looks like you may not even have a Sansung Fascinate...on verizon...which is the phone i am posting about. Most of the Galaxy S variants are GSM/HSPA phones, the fascinate is a CDMA/EVDO phone and seems to be not benefit as much from the development on the other variants because of its different modem/radio. This is why i think we (verizon facinate owners) need to put some incentives out there...
I like the idea, just not sure how viable it actually is.
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dboss713 said:
I like the idea, just not sure how viable it actually is.
+1
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andrewblanejr said:
Oh, and it looks like you may not even have a Sansung Fascinate...on verizon...which is the phone i am posting about. Most of the Galaxy S variants are GSM/HSPA phones, the fascinate is a CDMA/EVDO phone and seems to be not benefit as much from the development on the other variants because of its different modem/radio. This is why i think we (verizon facinate owners) need to put some incentives out there...
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i agree with this
Would gladly donate a few bucks for that sweet Gingerbread..
It's a nice idea but I don't think it'll go. We don't even have a working port of 2.2 yet, nor AOSP of 2.2 running on this device... Would I like to see some gingerbread goodness? Why heck yes, but do I think it's possible...? Nope. Best just to wait for OTA release and modify it I say...
...Yes I know with samsungs history we wont see that until android 5.1 but that's besides the point!
I would gladly donate sounds like a good idea if we can make it happen
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Good idea sure
Although I have not done any really really heavy dev work for the platform, I think this is more a question on feasibility. Would I kick in for it sure, breaking totally free of the VZW\Samsung cycle would be great. However without some support or "leaks" making everything work would be a monumental task. At least if I understand the methodology.
i'd give at least $30 towards this..
I'm not going to say its not possible....but more like its not probable. It might get some money hungry devs on the fascinate though (ultimatedroid), so it cant be too bad. Well talk is cheap as they say.... So start the xPrize and see what happens...the worse thing that could happen is probably nothing gets done.
And i apologize right now in advance.... but this doesnt belong in this forum.... lol... i had to. im sorry.
Being a dev, I have to say its more trouble than its worth.
First we'd have to hack up at LEAST the .32 kernel and get froyo running. Without the froyo kernel source, its more of a pain than anything. Getting the system running to be compatible is no where near as hard as Getting the kernel.. That's something different.
I don't know what would be involved in making something like this happen, but I'd throw $50 at it.
Considering we don't have a fully working build of AOSP 2.1, I can't see this happening. Maybe if there is better source released for 2.2 when it gets here it will be easier, but I feel like if that happens, then devs would work on it anyway.
I don't think people realize that we've had aosp froyo all along. What we don't have is our driver specific kernel. We'll have gingerbread the day it becomes available but that doesn't mean anything as we won't have kernel again at the release.
@op you want us build up from the ground like we did with milestone? NONE of us will go through that hell again ever. $1000? haha that amount is nothing considering what we would put in if we were to build it up from the ground again.
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i have seen a prize work
a little history
my first smart phone was the VZ 6900 aka the HTC vogue
a windows mobile 6 phone that never had an "official" Rom or Kernel for android and yet the dev were able to not only build a fully working android 2.2 including getting all drivers to work, and as we speak those same vogue dev are now working on 2.3 builds, mind you i am not a dev and but i know this took a lot of work but a prize is what got the team moving and i would give $20 or more if we could get this going
So among poll responders most non-dev USERS would be willing to contribute some money towards this. Good news, but with only two responders claiming to be developers it's hard to say whether we could really get the interest of developers...perhaps i should PM some people? who are the big shot developers in these parts?
Hello you all
mods, feel free to move our delete my post if you feel it's in the wrong section
I am planning to buy the find 5, but I want to be sure this is the right buy for me. I know the performance is awesome and the screen is one of the best or there, so +1 for those, but now for development support. I see there it's a fresh new cm10.1 so that seems ok but are you developers going to keep this phone for a long time? The price tag is pretty hefty for me and I want to keep the phone for a few years. Any change for long term development here? With android 5, and up support? Fast kernels?
Thank you so much
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Hello you all
mods, feel free to move our delete my post if you feel it's in the wrong section
I am planning to buy the find 5, but I want to be sure this is the right buy for me. I know the performance is awesome and the screen is one of the best or there, so +1 for those, but now for development support. I see there it's a fresh new cm10.1 so that seems ok but are you developers going to keep this phone for a long time? The price tag is pretty hefty for me and I want to keep the phone for a few years. Any change for long term development here? With android 5, and up support? Fast kernels?
Thank you so much
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ask Oppo, but they might not guarantee it, or go back on their word
eg: motorola promises android update, then reneges on it
developers do porting on their free time, if you want to guarantee something (like having Android version x), do it yourself........ bootloader is unlocked - you can install anything you want on it
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ask Oppo, but they might not guarantee it, or go back on their word
eg: motorola promises android update, then reneges on it
developers do porting on their free time, if you want to guarantee something (like having Android version x), do it yourself........ bootloader is unlocked - you can install anything you want on it
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Yeah I wasn't really talking about oppo itself, more of xda support
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Phenziox said:
Yeah I wasn't really talking about oppo itself, more of xda support
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as I said, devs work on this on their free time
no dev will tell you: "I will work on this forever and not sell it.. if it breaks, i'll get a new one to continue support"...
if you want android 5.x, learn how to port
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as I said, devs work on this on their free time
no dev will tell you: "I will work on this forever and not sell it.. if it breaks, i'll get a new one to continue support"...
if you want android 5.x, learn how to port
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Yup. So far, I see myself as far less likely to wind up in the "OMFG I HATE THIS DEVICE AND I AM SICK OF DEALING WITH IT" category like all of the Exynos4 CM maintainers did.
That said, if I get spread too thin, the device might receive less attention in the future.
A lot depends more on Qualcomm than on Oppo.
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Yup. So far, I see myself as far less likely to wind up in the "OMFG I HATE THIS DEVICE AND I AM SICK OF DEALING WITH IT" category like all of the Exynos4 CM maintainers did.
That said, if I get spread too thin, the device might receive less attention in the future.
A lot depends more on Qualcomm than on Oppo.
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Well, you got that right
The exact reason why I was planning to skip on the s3
And to be clear, I wasnt trying to demand support, just asking whether it was there or not
And I saw the full source code was available so this seems like a good source to learn development xD
Thank you
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Oppo has been great about getting the find it developers hand. They have given out almost ten free devices. So there will be Roms, not as much as a nexus but a few. Again in the long term support won't be as good as a nexus but it uses a qualcom chip so support is easy, not nexus easy but second best. I say it will be supported as long as the nexus four dependent on binary issues.
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Is it just me, or is there a lack of diversity when it comes to ROMs for the n4? I have been using the nexus lineup since the nexus s, and it seemed back then, and with the galaxy nexus, there was more variety. As in sense ROMs or xperia ROMs, miui etc... With the n4 its miui or aosp variants like AOKP or cm10.
I was a flashoholic for sure back then but now it rarely seems like its worth the effort to try new ROMs out. I typically find one that is stable, and I stick to that for weeks or perhaps a couple of months. There is the odd new feature added to these new ROMs that's interesting, but nothing ever drasticly different.
Don't get me wrong, I love the ability to dump some lines of code in and have an LTE device, or benchmark near what the new s4 puts down, I do like the phone, but why no ports?? Even now there are 4.2.2 xperia ROMs on devices out there, why no n4 love? I have been waiting forever for an alternative lock screen (bb10 or lg's) that I don't think will ever come. Just find it weird.
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many of the developers love the pure android side of it in the first place, thats why they are here. and ports just arent the same, and dont run as well as a native rom. if you want a port, see what you could do to build one, id try it if you put one out
I have thought about trying to port. I don't believe I have the skills to get this done, nor the time to gain said skills. I just wonder, is this perhaps due to the fact that this is an lg device, and the others were Samsung? I would think not, but I don't know enough to say for sure.
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j_mullet said:
I have thought about trying to port. I don't believe I have the skills to get this done, nor the time to gain said skills. I just wonder, is this perhaps due to the fact that this is an lg device, and the others were Samsung? I would think not, but I don't know enough to say for sure.
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that does make things harder. writing new drivers probably wouldnt be worth it, among other things. that is, unless the developer really wanted that port
When I was on my GNex, I don't remember any Sense/TouchWiz/Blur ROMs, at least not functional.
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You bought a nexus 4, but didn't want AOSP?
If you want a different lock screen, there's apps for that.
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None of the ports would ever get into a useable state or be a fully functional daily driver.
It's easier to have a samsung/htc/whatever and go cyanogenmod when you want the closest-to-stock feel, and you'd also have variations of stock roms (sense, tw..).
I don't think the situation was different in the galaxy nexus forum than it is now here, but i do remember that every once in a while threads about how "all roms are the same" would pop up.
And a last point, i don't get this flashing habbit. There's nothing wrong in sticking to 1 rom for a long time, it only means it's stable and it has all the features you actually use/need. *It's a phone, not a toy, if you're bored during your days maybe it's time to find a hobby or maybe start dating or smth. , or just get another non nexus phone and use it to satisfy your flashoholic needs with buggy ports.
*not being rude..
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No Diversity?
I believe that Diversity starts here.
PIE? Halo? Just a couple off the top of my head.
I would rather have stable and new innovations rather then buggy and every option CM can add thrown at me. Hence why I own a Nexus.
Don't forget Ubuntu Phone, that's pretty far from an AOSP ROM. Most other phones besides Galaxy Nexus don't even have a usable port of this.
Nothing to see here... Just another lazy window shopping end-user with very little knowledge on how developing works trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Human beings can never be satisfied.
(Tendency of human beings)
Exynos S4 users are crying for AOSP based ROM and here nexus 4 users are crying for some OEM based ROM.
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Akhil said:
Human beings can never be satisfied.
(Tendency of human beings)
Exynos S4 users are crying for AOSP based ROM and here nexus 4 users are crying for some OEM based ROM.
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It happens.
On Moto forums people cry for sense ROM. On HTC forums people cry for touch wiz. On Samsung forums people cry for MotoBlur.
(This may or may not be real but when I was in the moto section before there were so many threads asking for a Sense port)
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I would love a perfectly functioning sense rom for the nexus 4 but I highly doubt that will ever happen. Then again the reason I bought this phone was not to have manufacturer and carrier restrictions like the other ones do.
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Nothing to see here... Just another lazy window shopping end-user with very little knowledge on how developing works trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
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As a former Nexus S 4G and GNex owner, I agree with him. I don't flash roms anymore because I'm bored with them. I picked up another Nexus phone because I know from experience that Nexus phones push the limits of android, and I just don't feel that about the N4. I'm very thankful for all the devs that are out there, but most of the ROMs coming out for the N4 are large group roms (PA, CM10.1, AOKP) and are not made specifically for our device. ROMs that are made specifically for our device lack diversity.
With the HTC Evo 4G I was trying every ROM out there, and when ICS was released I was on the cutting edge with it, and upgraded to the NS4G because of the way it handled ICS. I then switched all over the place looking for more speed and stability, eager to try out every new feature. Then came the GNex, with Jelly Bean first being released, it was again an adventure of trying new things and having an active development community building for it.
The Nexus 4...I don't know. Other than aesthetics I don't think it's as good of a phone for me as the GNex was. The same core of ROMs run on both phones, but the Galaxy Nexus had a lot more storage.
I still like my phone, but I almost feel like I lost a hobby.
In response to the "get a hobby / start dating" comment. I'm married, work a ton, and have a few hobbies, but I still liked tinkering with my phone during my free evenings.
Yeah, where's all the 13 y/o developers (jk) who used to use the kitchen to make cute roms with custom everything (fonts wallpapers bootanimations dialer you name it) and really stand behind the ROM . As much as other big respectable devs who build from source like to ridicule them, I actually really miss them.
I see illusion ROM kinda doing it right now for the nexus 4 and love it. hopefully more come for us...
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Is it just me, or is there a lack of diversity when it comes to ROMs for the n4? I have been using the nexus lineup since the nexus s, and it seemed back then, and with the galaxy nexus, there was more variety. As in sense ROMs or xperia ROMs, miui etc... With the n4 its miui or aosp variants like AOKP or cm10.
I was a flashoholic for sure back then but now it rarely seems like its worth the effort to try new ROMs out. I typically find one that is stable, and I stick to that for weeks or perhaps a couple of months. There is the odd new feature added to these new ROMs that's interesting, but nothing ever drasticly different.
Don't get me wrong, I love the ability to dump some lines of code in and have an LTE device, or benchmark near what the new s4 puts down, I do like the phone, but why no ports?? Even now there are 4.2.2 xperia ROMs on devices out there, why no n4 love? I have been waiting forever for an alternative lock screen (bb10 or lg's) that I don't think will ever come. Just find it weird.
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you have a point....but stock android with optimization is what most people download the roms for and get nexus 4 in first place (for many ppl)
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As a former Nexus S 4G and GNex owner, I agree with him. I don't flash roms anymore because I'm bored with them. I picked up another Nexus phone because I know from experience that Nexus phones push the limits of android, and I just don't feel that about the N4. I'm very thankful for all the devs that are out there, but most of the ROMs coming out for the N4 are large group roms (PA, CM10.1, AOKP) and are not made specifically for our device. ROMs that are made specifically for our device lack diversity.
With the HTC Evo 4G I was trying every ROM out there, and when ICS was released I was on the cutting edge with it, and upgraded to the NS4G because of the way it handled ICS. I then switched all over the place looking for more speed and stability, eager to try out every new feature. Then came the GNex, with Jelly Bean first being released, it was again an adventure of trying new things and having an active development community building for it.
The Nexus 4...I don't know. Other than aesthetics I don't think it's as good of a phone for me as the GNex was. The same core of ROMs run on both phones, but the Galaxy Nexus had a lot more storage.
I still like my phone, but I almost feel like I lost a hobby.
In response to the "get a hobby / start dating" comment. I'm married, work a ton, and have a few hobbies, but I still liked tinkering with my phone during my free evenings.
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Well you said it, galaxy nexus had jelly bean. There were no big updates during the era of the nexus 4, but give it a bit of time till KLP (or whatever it's gonna be called) arrives, none of those buggy touchwiz or sense roms will interest you. Oh and it's gonna be exclusive to a few devices (nexus line and GE phones)
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I'd rather have developers pushing the boundaries of AOSP (so everyone can enjoy them) than investing time in a proprietary and in the end, lackluster result compared to the stock experience.
Unless the device is a direct relative, you won't see a good port of any OEM firmware.
I believe stock has a great level of quality and that can be seen on the polls, most people using pure stock.
Also we have great Roms that build upon AOSP and our device is first party supported (see PA). With features like HALO, privacy controls and others, they are delivering great improvements across all devices.
In the end, if you want the best AOSP experience, get a Nexus.
If you want the best Touchwiz experience, get S4.
If you want the best Sense experience, get One.
Etc.
If you really need a OEM overlay, I guess you have the wrong device, friend.
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I just installed PA with HALO to try to prove my thoughts wrong, and there's really no way to get rid of HALO? It's annoying and intrusive, I absolutely hate it, and it just sits there. I went to hide it, and it still just sits on the edge of my screen. Gah! It makes me claustrophobic. I realize that this isn't a popular opinion as everybody raves about HALO, but I can't stand it.
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I just installed PA with HALO to try to prove my thoughts wrong, and there's really no way to get rid of HALO? It's annoying and intrusive, I absolutely hate it, and it just sits there. I went to hide it, and it still just sits on the edge of my screen. Gah! It makes me claustrophobic. I realize that this isn't a popular opinion as everybody raves about HALO, but I can't stand it.
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Same here, I couldn't stand it for more than 5 minutes when I tried it. I even tried to like the whole pie craze, but after 2 days I got sick of swiping to use the navigation buttons, it just felt like extra work. I mean don't get me wrong the PA team are absolute geniuses at what they do, but it just wasn't for me.
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I've been watching this space for last few days, especially to know how much active development this device would get. There is no doubt that this is one of the best device you can buy right now in the Android market. But it still has less active development than a high end device would see after a month of its release. And being a cousin to Nexus 5, I thought this device will see the added advantage of much more development but what ever is happening is absolutely opposite to it. The development activity is so less, compared to what previous flagships HTC One, S4 had after one month of their respective release, there isn't a need to create separate forums for each major (carrier) version of the device.
Is it because locked bootloaders? or something else?.
blame it on Samsung S series and Note...Plus LG isnt known yet for the average consumer
I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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blame it on Samsung S series and Note...Plus LG isnt known yet for the average consumer
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Yes, I agree that LG G2 is not as quite as popular as it should beconfused but an average user doesn't hang out in XDA looking for different roms. Even Sony's one or two years old phones are getting KitKat where as this phone has not even having more ROMS to choose from. This is supposed to be the flagship & highest speced device along with Galaxy Note 3. And as I said, being a distant cousin device of Nexus 5, I thought many ROMs from different beloved developers will be available for this device but it is not the case. Many people like me choose Android platform over other(Windows Phone 8 & IOS) because of the availability of different ROMs to choose from. But seeing that is not the case, even those people back off from buying this device.
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I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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Its not only AOSP ROMs but also stock based ROMs too
Patience guys, the ROM's are coming.
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If you want more development then learn to develop and provide your work to the masses. Seems to me there are a few good devs working on this phone. Keep in mind there are several variants which complicates things. I believe that the Nexus 5 will help get more ports for this device but I don't feel entitled to ask for anything or complain about slow development.
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If you want more development then learn to develop and provide your work to the masses. Seems to me there are a few good devs working on this phone. Keep in mind there are several variants which complicates things. I believe that the Nexus 5 will help get more ports for this device but I don't feel entitled to ask for anything or complain about slow development.
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With due respect, before giving those heroic comments & suggestions, you should have understand what I'm trying to do with this thread, which is to get to know the reasons for not seeing as much development as we usually see with flagship phones(I don't know where you get the notion that I was complaining). I never tried or try to complain or demand anything, heck who the hell I'm to even think of those lines. I clearly was asking for the reasons in the OP(than complaining about any thing) that is it because of locked bootloaders or some other reasons. And every flagship has different variants, its not this phone alone.
But one thing I'm sure about is, any one who visits or comes frequently to this wonderful forum, he/she buys the device which is supported by our beloved developers, they don't care about the manufacturers supporting them in software update.
The "why no development for this device" threads are getting tiresome no matter how an OP tries to disguise it.
If you want a device with a lot a ROM's, I suggest you get a Nexus or a Galaxy S phone and not an LG, Plain and simple.
A lot of xda users know that LG suck at providing updates to the latest version of Android. Samsung and HTC used to be the same way but they have really improved. Besides when it comes to GSM devs, I think most preferred going with the cheaper option the Nexus 5 offers. Also, quite a few people don't really like the rear button placement. Most of us have gotten used to it but try convincing someone who has yet to try the device.
LG is in Samsung's shadow
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I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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I think this is one of the reasons. Prior to getting the G2, I used phones that were as close to vanilla as possible, and modded my phone to be that. I am actually very pleased with how LG built their UI and I appreciate tge customization that is built in. I have never seen so many people on here so happy with the UI that they weren't in a rush to ROM their phones. Hell, the only reason I even rooted and added TWRP was to use certain apps.
The second reason I don't think it's not getting the support you're looking for is tge cost and how close to tge Nexus 5 it was released. If I was a developer, it would be hard to justify spending $600 outright for a phone when the Nexus was right around the corner with similar hardware for $350. The only thing that might motivate me to purchase the G2 would be the fact that I'm on Verizon and we won't be getting a Nexus.
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I think this is one of the reasons. Prior to getting the G2, I used phones that were as close to vanilla as possible, and modded my phone to be that. I am actually very pleased with how LG built their UI and I appreciate tge customization that is built in. I have never seen so many people on here so happy with the UI that they weren't in a rush to ROM their phones. Hell, the only reason I even rooted and added TWRP was to use certain apps.
The second reason I don't think it's not getting the support you're looking for is tge cost and how close to tge Nexus 5 it was released. If I was a developer, it would be hard to justify spending $600 outright for a phone when the Nexus was right around the corner with similar hardware for $350. The only thing that might motivate me to purchase the G2 would be the fact that I'm on Verizon and we won't be getting a Nexus.
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I was lucky enough to get a nexus 5 very early after the launch...i played around with it the day i got then packed it up and sent it back the next day..bought a G2 the next day and am glad i did
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low devolpment?you haw minimum 10 stock costum rom and 8 aosp rom in all carriers.low dev?
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muhamet said:
low devolpment?you haw minimum 10 stock costum rom and 8 aosp rom in all carriers.low dev?
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Def low development for D803.
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Theres a bounty in general to get all variants official AOKP. You want more development then donate.
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Def low development for D803.
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Def low development for D803.
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Low development? There's no development.
Is pretty simple... Most devs knows that LG is not dev friendly and most devs has gone through this with LG before.
This particular lg is very dev friendly
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Mind you, I have only had this phone for a day, but all I've done is played around with the software until now, somehow I was expecting more.
I've never owned a Nexus device and the last phone I had was a m8, granted it's a lot older now but I modded it from the beginning and I get the feeling there was more content on the HTC side.
Not saying there is little going on here, but I was expecting more.
So what's the deal about "if you like modding software this is for you" every reviewer says out there?
I haven't done any research on Nexus devices prior to getting the phone because my HTC gave up on me.
So far I'm very impressed by the phone though.
Edit: when I say I modded I'm just talking about editing files or installing zips
For starters, there's the hassle of unlocking the M8's bootloader. Second, with other OEM devices such as Samsung, HTC, and LG, devs usually have to start from scratch unless there are already some sources.
When it comes to Nexus.... it's AOSP + Google's Nexus apps. That's it. Then there's the sources easily available.
I'm sure someone else can explain it way better than that, but when my girl bought an HTC M8 two years ago, it took at least an hour to get a custom ROM installed onto it. My 5X (or even my Nexus 5 at that time) had CyanogenMod flashed in 15 minutes.
Vuciz said:
For starters, there's the hassle of unlocking the M8's bootloader. Second, with other OEM devices such as Samsung, HTC, and LG, devs usually have to start from scratch unless there are already some sources.
When it comes to Nexus.... it's AOSP + Google's Nexus apps. That's it. Then there's the sources easily available.
I'm sure someone else can explain it way better than that, but when my girl bought an HTC M8 two years ago, it took at least an hour to get a custom ROM installed onto it. My 5X (or even my Nexus 5 at that time) had CyanogenMod flashed in 15 minutes.
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Have you noticed the low sound volume in CM13 for N5X, I wait t change until fixed.
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Have you noticed the low sound volume in CM13 for N5X, I wait t change until fixed.
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I really dont think the sound volume is that big of a deal. However you can edit the mixer paths file to bring the sound volume back up, if it is to you.
Either way razorloves has isolated the change thay reduced the volume level so hopefully a fix will come quickly now that they have identifed exactly what caused the problem.
As to the OP, Give it some time. Probably as you learn about modding and see how much support is in the Nexus community you well will understand more.
The Nexus experience isn't exactly a specific experience due to the unique nature of the phone, but rather the ease with which customization and modification is achieved. Nexus devices are also very forgiving in terms of mistakes you may make when modding - for example there's been at least a handful of people even on just this device that have bricked their phones but been able to successfully fix them. On most other devices, bricking would have meant game over.
Additionally, if you bought the phone from Google, part of the Nexus experience is the great warranty support policies Google has, both for manufacturing defects and issues you may have caused yourself (for example, I believe they will replace your phone once if you break the screen)
Buy a 6P, maybe you miss the boomsound
Was expecting more from the nexus experience (first impression) Title of the OP
"Mind you, I have only had this phone for a day,"
Ok and this is your post? One day?
"....a m8, granted it's a lot older now but I modded it from the beginning and I get the feeling there was more content on the HTC side."
More content on the HTC side? What are you saying?
"I haven't done any research on Nexus devices prior to getting the phone because my HTC gave up on me."
Ok so who's problem is that? What did you expect with all the research you have done? Oh nvm, I see.
"So far I'm very impressed by the phone though."
Wait a sec.. you OPd and said you were expecting more. And now you're impressed? Why did you create this thread?
"Edit: when I say I modded I'm just talking about editing files or installing zips "
Do you even know what you're saying?
How about you close this thread and stop this silliness? That would be the best post at this time.
Huh? Your post history suggests you're at least active in some rom sections for the m8 and you're asking about modding on the 5x, a FREAKING NEXUS PHONE?
You wanna do a nokia phone mod with blinking keypads lights and techno beats?
OP, you've clearly missed the point of the whole Nexus experience in general. Nexus devices are for those who want the latest updates to Android, clean software, and stability. Unlike other manufacturers that load their devices with a whole bunch of sh!t apps and/or features no one uses. I'm not saying people DON'T use those features, but Nexus devices are for people who want a stable phone, or an easy to mod/root if they so choose.
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On try paranoid Android Rom. Smoothest I've tried.
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Was expecting more from the nexus experience (first impression) Title of the OP
"Mind you, I have only had this phone for a day,"
Ok and this is your post? One day?
"....a m8, granted it's a lot older now but I modded it from the beginning and I get the feeling there was more content on the HTC side."
More content on the HTC side? What are you saying?
"I haven't done any research on Nexus devices prior to getting the phone because my HTC gave up on me."
Ok so who's problem is that? What did you expect with all the research you have done? Oh nvm, I see.
"So far I'm very impressed by the phone though."
Wait a sec.. you OPd and said you were expecting more. And now you're impressed? Why did you create this thread?
"Edit: when I say I modded I'm just talking about editing files or installing zips "
Do you even know what you're saying?
How about you close this thread and stop this silliness? That would be the best post at this time.
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Huh? Your post history suggests you're at least active in some rom sections for the m8 and you're asking about modding on the 5x, a FREAKING NEXUS PHONE?
You wanna do a nokia phone mod with blinking keypads lights and techno beats?
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iamterence said:
OP, you've clearly missed the point of the whole Nexus experience in general. Nexus devices are for those who want the latest updates to Android, clean software, and stability. Unlike other manufacturers that load their devices with a whole bunch of sh!t apps and/or features no one uses. I'm not saying people DON'T use those features, but Nexus devices are for people who want a stable phone, or an easy to mod/root if they so choose.
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Hey, no need to feel insulted guys.
First of all this was my first impression like the title states, what's wrong with that?
I bought this phone in a hurry, I was asking because I had heard people (mostly youtubers and the like) recommending this phone for "modders/flashers" around the Web, not just the nexus 5x in particular, but nexus devices in general.
This gave me the assumption that the modding/development community would be even more active than on other devices.
Coming from the m8, which had/has a big selection of mods, roms and tips & tricks etc, I was expecting a lot more to be found here on the forums (I was not comparing the devices directly).
And yes I'm impressed by LGs 5x, I was not expecting to get so much at this low price point (I paid under 300€), regardless of software (which is awesome btw, I haven't used stock Android before).
I hope this clears things up for you
I guess many of the things that make nexus devices "better" in this regard are out of my skill set.
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Hey, no need to feel insulted guys.
First of all this was my first impression like the title states, what's wrong with that?
I bought this phone in a hurry, I was asking because I had heard people (mostly youtubers and the like) recommending this phone for "modders/flashers" around the Web, not just the nexus 5x in particular, but nexus devices in general.
This gave me the assumption that the modding/development community would be even more active than on other devices.
Coming from the m8, which had/has a big selection of mods, roms and tips & tricks etc, I was expecting a lot more to be found here on the forums (I was not comparing the devices directly).
And yes I'm impressed by LGs 5x, I was not expecting to get so much at this low price point (I paid under 300€), regardless of software (which is awesome btw, I haven't used stock Android before).
I hope this clears things up for you
I guess many of the things that make nexus devices "better" in this regard are out of my skill set.
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OEM device forums usually have more mods because people try and make the stock OEM rom more like the stock Nexus rom. Those mods are obviously not needed. There aren't really any stock Nexus based roms either since AOSP roms are stable and for the most part bugless. The rom threads are not as big either since there are far less bugs to report. OEM device forums are filled with ways to make their phone the way ours comes out of the box.
What you are observing is more meat and less fat.
Its a good phone for the recent prices, with the nexus branding it becomes better for longetivity.
If you did further research then you would have realize the bigger community is over at the 6p section. 5x is good but not flagship level good especially when you feel the lack of ram