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Are the IR sensors for Moto Display always visible when the screen is off and the room is dark. I've had the phone about a week, and I'm just now noticing this.
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Ganondroid said:
Are the IR sensors for Moto Display always visible when the screen is off and the room is dark. I've had the phone about a week, and I'm just now noticing this.
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I have noticed this since day one. If you disable moto display and I think adaptive/attentive display under Android display settings they will go off hence reducing battery consumption.

Yes they are by default... I remember when I got my first iPhone (3g) and seen a faint red glow next to the speakers? I thought I was crazy and finally seen others posting they were the IR sensors that turned the screen off and one when it was by/away from your ear. I also seen this on my Samsung S3 a few years ago.
I can easily see 3 in my Moto X Pure - two at the bottom and one at the top.

I've noticed that only 2 of mine are lighting up, does everyone else see 3 in a dark room?

Two at the bottom and one next to the front camera.

The bottom right one doesn't light up on mine. I could swear that it did the first day I had the phone. Also Moto display seems less sensitive now, maybe I'm just going crazy though... It doesn't wake up at all from waving my hand around the bottom of the phone, only around the top.

ogre23 said:
The bottom right one doesn't light up on mine. I could swear that it did the first day I had the phone. Also Moto display seems less sensitive now, maybe I'm just going crazy though... It doesn't wake up at all from waving my hand around the bottom of the phone, only around the top.
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I'm facing the same with my Moto X Style. When I'm holding the phone in hand, swiping over the bottom IR sensors doesn't light up moto display sometimes. However it lights up immediately when swiped over upper IR sensor.
Although, swiping over the bottom sensors does lights up moto display perfectly when the phone is lying on some surface like table. Is this normal?

AsquareX said:
I'm facing the same with my Moto X Style. When I'm holding the phone in hand, swiping over the bottom IR sensors doesn't light up moto display sometimes. However it lights up immediately when swiped over upper IR sensor.
Although, swiping over the bottom sensors does lights up moto display perfectly when the phone is lying on some surface like table. Is this normal?
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I think bottom sensors only works when you try to grab the phone.. The upper one is the primary one. And it works for the wave to wake up feature

GRVsingal said:
I think bottom sensors only works when you try to grab the phone.. The upper one is the primary one. And it works for the wave to wake up feature
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Thanks. I did some research and found the same for X Style and the previous generation Moto X 2014. So it seems like nothing to worry.

Same here, 1 showing at the top and one bottom left but the bottom right doesn't light up anymore, it used to when I first got the phone so not sure if software update has ballsed it up or of its a hardware problem.

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Nexus One in "The Event"

I was so happy when I saw it! GO NEXUS!
http://hoopload.com/profiles/blogs/nexus-one-spotted-in-the-event
It always is so strange to me when I see someone in person with a Nexus One. You can tell it is immediately but it just shocks you given how rare they are compared to other smartphones.
Hmm, not so sure...
I saw the same episode the other night and thought exactly the same as you. I went as far to rewind and freeze frame it.
It was then that I noticed a slight difference between my Nexus One and the one on the screen. The ear piece has two LED's (one either side). Then I realised it was the Desire as that has indicator lights there. The other reason is the headphone socket is on the other side to ours on the shot as it pans out.
well that kills the rarity then...as the desire is not as rare (no where near as rare) as the Nexus One.
My best friend is on US Cellular and dumped blackberry to go Android(at my prodding) He preferred the Desire over the Samsung Mesmerize(Galaxy S) because of the build quality. Hard to argue with him. He'll love this post.
tdiboy said:
I saw the same episode the other night and thought exactly the same as you. I went as far to rewind and freeze frame it.
It was then that I noticed a slight difference between my Nexus One and the one on the screen. The ear piece has two LED's (one either side). Then I realised it was the Desire as that has indicator lights there. The other reason is the headphone socket is on the other side to ours on the shot as it pans out.
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It's not a Desire. I have one right beside me. Look at the picture - the Desire doesn't have that curvature at the top of the screen.
edit: and the Desire only has one LED as far as I'm aware...
Desire has one LED, same as the N1, possibly one of the sensors being picked up by the camera somehow?
The IR proximity sensor might be picked up as a LED by the camera and turned visible - many cameras "see" some of the IR spectrum, unlike human eyes.
Judging by the picture - it doesn't look like Desire, it can be only Nexus.
Jack_R1 said:
The IR proximity sensor might be picked up as a LED by the camera and turned visible - many cameras "see" some of the IR spectrum, unlike human eyes.
Judging by the picture - it doesn't look like Desire, it can be only Nexus.
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I have to agree that it isn't the Desire (just Google Imaged it) and the earpiece os totally different but there are definately two LED looking sections either side of the earpiece grill (ours doesnt have anything similar). The main difference is the headphone socket sits on the left on the unit (ours is on the right) as the guy is holding it, we see the underside of the phone.
What episode is that?
Re: the headphone jack, it could be mirrored?
Bravo for the Nexus actor skills
It was episode 7 (26:10 into it). I had thought that about it being mirrored (used loads in TV and film to suit a camera angle it seems) but in the same shot, the camera housing is square and it doesn't seem to have any LED flash by it either. Also, the volume rocker sits slightly raised from the phone (Nexus One almost flush) and looks lower down the left side of the phone. It could be two phones, one for the screen view and one for the looking up at the "phone in the hand" shot as it looks smaller in the guys hand on the long shot. Not really sure what the little bugger is really...
The sensor shows up as purple... Its a nexus... It just looks weird from the angle/lens just my two cents
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tdiboy said:
...but there are definately two LED looking sections either side of the earpiece grill (ours doesnt have anything similar).
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Look closer on the both sides of the earpiece, when the phone is in direct strong light that will penetrate the screen tint. You'll see 2 "things" on the left side of the earpiece, and 1 "thing" on the right. The "thing" on the right you know - it's a charging LED, which is visible. The left one your eyes can't see - but cameras see it, as I pointed earlier, and it's a proximity sensor - blinking IR LED with IR receptor which measures reflected light.
If you look at matte (anti-glare) screen protectors, you'll see that some of them have a cut in top left corner - just where the proximity sensor resides.
So "ours doesn't have anything similar" is just untrue.
ap3604 said:
It always is so strange to me when I see someone in person with a Nexus One. You can tell it is immediately but it just shocks you given how rare they are compared to other smartphones.
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I've never even seen one in person other than mine!
The only time I've seen one was some lady had one that she got given at some google event, she didn't even know what root was!
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I've been seeing N1s on that show too! Almost took a screenshot of one scene where the trackball glows white. Rewound and checked and thought that it could be a reflection of something shiny.
It always makes me chuckle when I see someone put a smartphone up to their ear and the screen stays on; you know they aren't really on a call.

Ir motion sensors not working properly.

I have noticed since unlocking bootloader and rooting the IR motion sensors seem to be less accurate. Bottom ones hardly activate now. Not sure if it's just me. Or has anyone else had this problem?
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Never had a problem here.
Having a big problem now. Both bottom IR sensors are not picking up when I reach for phone or wave my hand in front of it. Anyone else? Gunna be a pain if I have to restore back. Thanks
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It's common problem of CM based ROMs.
But I'm using stock ROM...?
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I have the exact same issue. I'm completely stock, bootloader locked, etc.
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Tek-Toyz said:
I have the exact same issue. I'm completely stock, bootloader locked, etc.
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Does it always not work? Mine seem to work sometimes?
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No, mine didn't work at all. I got tired of it and sold it and now I have a nexus 6p
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What size did you get
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64gb
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The two things on the bottom of screen are IR lights, not motion sensors. The proximity sensor that is used for Moto Display is in the top right of the phone, next to the front facing camera and flash. This is the case with the Moto X 2014 and Moto X 2015, so this is unrelated to your bootloader, this is just how Moto Display works.
Sorry I actually misspoke a little. The exact workings of this quite fascinates me so I dug a little deeper and found out that the thing in the top right is actually also an IR light just like the two on the bottom of the phone and not a proximity sensor. On the top left I'm pretty sure is an ambient light sensor, but next to it is actually the ir receiver. (I'm pretty sure the leftmost one is ambient light sensor and the one near the left center is the ir receiver)
The reason why Moto display shows up when you wave your hand over the top right ir light but not the bottom two is because in the current version of Moto display, it is set so that the top right checks for things within 1 or 2 cm, and the bottom two ir lights are for things between 10 and 15 cm. Try it out on your own phone and you should see that behavior.
This should also help a bit for understanding what is going on. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-X-2nd-Gen/Solved-Motorola-Moto-X-2014-Sensors/m-p/3120329
thaatz said:
The reason why Moto display shows up when you wave your hand over the top right ir light but not the bottom two is because in the current version of Moto display, it is set so that the top right checks for things within 1 or 2 cm, and the bottom two ir lights are for things between 10 and 15 cm. Try it out on your own phone and you should see that behavior.
This should also help a bit for understanding what is going on. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-X-2nd-Gen/Solved-Motorola-Moto-X-2014-Sensors/m-p/3120329
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holly s43t you're right, i just noticed this and was absolutely amazed when waving my hand close to the screen for the top right sensor and higher a lil bit for the 2 below. Thanks so much for showing me that MM didn't mess with the ir sensors cuz ever since the mm update I thought the bottom sensors had moods.
thaatz said:
Sorry I actually misspoke a little. The exact workings of this quite fascinates me so I dug a little deeper and found out that the thing in the top right is actually also an IR light just like the two on the bottom of the phone and not a proximity sensor. On the top left I'm pretty sure is an ambient light sensor, but next to it is actually the ir receiver. (I'm pretty sure the leftmost one is ambient light sensor and the one near the left center is the ir receiver)
The reason why Moto display shows up when you wave your hand over the top right ir light but not the bottom two is because in the current version of Moto display, it is set so that the top right checks for things within 1 or 2 cm, and the bottom two ir lights are for things between 10 and 15 cm. Try it out on your own phone and you should see that behavior.
This should also help a bit for understanding what is going on. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-X-2nd-Gen/Solved-Motorola-Moto-X-2014-Sensors/m-p/3120329
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You are absolutely right

Bought used X Force and have some questions

Hi everybody. Yesterday I bought a used Moto X Force and have some concerns about it. (Yes, noticed them before paying, but the price was appealing )
First of all, I think there is a missing top screen layer (or some kind of a factory screen protector) because there is a hole where the front flash is sitting. Can you confirm that it must be absolutely flat screen there? And if yes, can you recommend some nice thin screen protector (I am in Europe and will not have the patience to wait for it to come from China...)
The second concern for now is the screen colours. I have Moto X Play and the screen is much more bright than that on Moto X Force. When in Settings menu, the basic colour on Play is much more bright. Same is when I look same picture on the two devices. That is very, very strange for me. Plus, there is no COLOR MODE menu in Display Settings, that I have on X Play. Any thoughts about this difference in display performance?
Third - WiFi make some battery drain - it is on top of the list with 10% for the night. On X Play it even is not on the list (same settings).
Well that is what I have found for now. Will be glad to see your opinions here.
I confirm you that the screen should completely flat. If the last layer of the screen is missing you can buy a new one directly from Motorola.fr, .uk or .de (about 30€)
Screens colors of the moto x are not correctly calibrated, it's a known issue when compared to the moto x play/style
Wi-Fi drain is a also known bug of Android 6, battery settings shows it drains a lot but in reality it's the contrary, you can install app like BetterBatteryStats to confirm it
Send it back. You are missing a screen layer!!
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Moto display and AMOLED

I'm coming from a '13 Moto X. Moto Display is one of my favorite features. With the play, it looks terrible when the clock comes on, and the whole background is grey.
Is there any way to only show when there is a notification?
Does it fade to black when you pick it up for anyone else? Like the loss of gyroscope means it doesn't know I picked it up to look, and if I'm too slow I can't get it to come back on without using the power button.
This and a couple other things that bother me make me want to go back to my '13.
AaronCompNetSys said:
I'm coming from a '13 Moto X. Moto Display is one of my favorite features. With the play, it looks terrible when the clock comes on, and the whole background is grey.
Is there any way to only show when there is a notification?
Does it fade to black when you pick it up for anyone else? Like the loss of gyroscope means it doesn't know I picked it up to look, and if I'm too slow I can't get it to come back on without using the power button.
This and a couple other things that bother me make me want to go back to my '13.
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1. Your Moto X used AMOLED screen. X Play, X Pure use IPS LCD. With LCD whole screen lights up, AMOLED only lights up pixels accordingly. The clock is the main interface for Moto Display, I would say it is not possible to adjust it to show only when getting notifications. You'll probably could turn off Moto Display and use an app called AcDisplay instead.
2. On Lollipop the timeout is too short and I always missed to touch it and ended up using the power button. With MM the timeout has been increased probably an extra second, it is better now.
pijes said:
1. Your Moto X used AMOLED screen. X Play, X Pure use IPS LCD. With LCD whole screen lights up, AMOLED only lights up pixels accordingly. The clock is the main interface for Moto Display, I would say it is not possible to adjust it to show only when getting notifications. You'll probably could turn off Moto Display and use an app called AcDisplay instead.
2. On Lollipop the timeout is too short and I always missed to touch it and ended up using the power button. With MM the timeout has been increased probably an extra second, it is better now.
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Thanks. I know its IPS and I personally think it looks terrible with Active display.
I still think the time out is to short, and it doesn't seem to ever know that its actually in my hand. I'm going back to my 2013 model.
AaronCompNetSys said:
Thanks. I know its IPS and I personally think it looks terrible with Active display.
I still think the time out is to short, and it doesn't seem to ever know that its actually in my hand. I'm going back to my 2013 model.
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Good for you.
Yes it looks bad though i don't use it.
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Horizontal Lines on Moto g5 Plus Display.

There horizontal lines on moto g5 plus display which can be seen in at perticular angle in direct sun light or artificial lighting conditon.
Some users have this issue and some not.
So is this normal or should i replace my phone.
And what is the reason behind this?
PLEASE HELP!!!!
Dush4711 said:
There horizontal lines on moto g5 plus display which can be seen in at perticular angle in direct sun light or artificial lighting conditon.
Some users have this issue and some not.
So is this normal or should i replace my phone.
And what is the reason behind this?
PLEASE HELP!!!!
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This is not an issue bud. Your screen isn't defective at all. This is the limitation of ips panel. Some/very few users who aren't able to notice(including me) might have not good eyes like ur's
So don't panic. Just relax and enjoy this device
Dush4711 said:
There horizontal lines on moto g5 plus display which can be seen in at perticular angle in direct sun light or artificial lighting conditon.
Some users have this issue and some not.
So is this normal or should i replace my phone.
And what is the reason behind this?
PLEASE HELP!!!!
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It's is not a issue with the device.It is some kind of sensors for Moto display.Turn Moto display off and it vanishes.This issue has been raised in one of the forums in lenovo , to which they replied that it is a sensor and not a display defect.So chill!
The horizontal lines are available in each and every device. The one who tells that they haven't noticed it, they might have not seen it properly. To see it you have to revise your geometry and have to see it at different angle under sunlight with hawk eyes.
I have noticed this on my G5 plus and it is normal (as in it doesn't hamper the functionality or doesn't imply malfunction).
See the photo
They are the touch sensor patterns. However, I also came across another G5 plus(one of my friend's) which has a different patterns (grids instead of horizontal lines) and they are barely visible even in bright outdoors.
The kind of sensor pattern you're talking about(only horizontal lines) are however, have more visibility, which kind of disappointing, and are hard to be unnoticed once you see them . So, there are two types of displays on G5 plus, and those who have the grid sensor patterns are the lucky few.
Thank you all for your kind reply.
I have the same issue... I dont like it but i want to keep the phone... Don't know if i want to return it beacause of this.
I was concerned about the horizontal faint white lines in my display. Thanks @williamj949 for explaining it's part of Moto Display. Confirmed that they go away if you turn it off. Good to know the display isn't faulty.
It's the digitizer's (touch sensing layer beneath the glass) grid.
Actually its been awhile since I've seen it on a phone (last one I saw was on Nexus 5s), guessing it's just the side effect of buying a medium-tier priced phone.
I'm. totally cool with it though, you don't notice it after a while.
williamj949 said:
It's is not a issue with the device.It is some kind of sensors for Moto display.Turn Moto display off and it vanishes.This issue has been raised in one of the forums in lenovo , to which they replied that it is a sensor and not a display defect.So chill!
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It has nothing to do with Moto display, it will still be visible as it's a hardware thing
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rayzen6 said:
This is not an issue bud. Your screen isn't defective at all. This is the limitation of ips panel. Some/very few users who aren't able to notice(including me) might have not good eyes like ur's
So don't panic. Just relax and enjoy this device
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I'm used to oled panel and now I'm using g5 plus. I can see the lines and now it's really bugging me.

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