Hello,
My I9505 is now on Omega 4.4.2. Now I would like to update my phome to a 5.0.1, because I see on sammobile the Original one is out.
When I read on the internet I see some sites where they say it's better to stay on 4.4.4 then go to 5.0.1.
They say 4.4.4 is more stable then 5.0.1 and 5.0.1 miss some important features.
Who can help me with this. Is it good to update to 5.0.1 or is it better to go to 4.4.4?
Tbh,this Question isn`t easy to answer because its subjective. There are changes (some for the better,some for the worse) and you have to "re-learn" some things regarding Android in general but overall it all depends on you (if you like these changed/can handle them). I may be wrong but the performance is about the same so that shouldn`t be the reason to update
Well oke thanks for the answer. Of I go to 5.0.1, can I go back to 4.4.4? If yes, how? Only flash a 4.4.4 rom or do it with odin?
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I would suggest to stay on kitkat
Better then lollipop 5.0.1? Them i will search a rom with 4.4.4
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ikkuh007 said:
Better then lollipop 5.0.1? Them i will search a rom with 4.4.4
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No, it's not good to stay on an outdated firmware. You leave your device vulnerable to malware etc. It's even better to flash Cyanogenmod and be on the latest version 5.1.1.
Lennyz1988 said:
No, it's not good to stay on an outdated firmware. You leave your device vulnerable to malware etc. It's even better to flash Cyanogenmod and be on the latest version 5.1.1.
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Thanks! But 5.1.1 is not out for the I9505 I see on sammobile. Will it be fast and stable enough?
And CM, why that and not the android version self? Why is better to use that? I never installed it before.
ikkuh007 said:
Thanks! But 5.1.1 is not out for the I9505 I see on sammobile. Will it be fast and stable enough?
And CM, why that and not the android version self? Why is better to use that? I never installed it before.
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No, it's not out and probably never will.
There are lot's of roms that are AOSP in the development section. You have to Google for yourself what all the differences are.
Bottom line: If you want to keep running a version that is outdated and more vulnerable to malware then keep using 4.4.4. If you want your device to be up to date then flash a CM/AOSP based rom. And yes they are really stable.
I will search and look what I will do. 1 more question. Once on 5.0.1, I can;t go back to 4.4.4 or lower, is that true?
imo its better...
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I will search and look what I will do. 1 more question. Once on 5.0.1, I can;t go back to 4.4.4 or lower, is that true?
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No, not true.
You can either go back on a custom rom or on stock. But on stock you need to keep using the Lollipop modem.
Will install today a 501 rom. Thanks all
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Hi folks!
I'm one of the the few lucky ones still being on the pre-KNOX 4.2.2, buildnumber JDQ39.I9505XXUBMGA. I own the international (swedish unbranded) version of the I9505. At the moment i have Root and a custom recovery installed, stock TouchWiz.
Now I want to discuss the pros and cons of WHETHER staying on this version, installing a custom ROM and a custom recovery OR updating to Jelly Bean 4.3 and only having the possibility to root without voiding my warranty.
I'm wondering:
Are there are any improvements in performance and stability with Jelly Bean 4.3?
Is there a stable custom ROM?
Is there a stable custom ROM that uses all the possibilties on the SGS4?
The reasons why I want to have ROOT is the annoying inability to move app data to the SD card. I don't want to void warranty.
Every answer/idea/opinion is welcome!
eTaurus
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Hi folks!
I'm one of the the few lucky ones still being on the pre-KNOX 4.2.2, buildnumber JDQ39.I9505XXUBMGA. I own the international (swedish unbranded) version of the I9505. At the moment i have Root and a custom recovery installed, stock TouchWiz.
Now I want to discuss the pros and cons of WHETHER staying on this version, installing a custom ROM and a custom recovery OR updating to Jelly Bean 4.3 and only having the possibility to root without voiding my warranty.
I'm wondering:
Are there are any improvements in performance and stability with Jelly Bean 4.3?
Is there a stable custom ROM?
Is there a stable custom ROM that uses all the possibilties on the SGS4?
The reasons why I want to have ROOT is the annoying inability to move app data to the SD card. I don't want to void warranty.
Every answer/idea/opinion is welcome!
eTaurus
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Hi, first of all, you lucky guy can flash every custom ROM 4.3 and also 4.4.2 when no new bootloader is included.:good:
the Samsung based ROMS are fully working. All you have to do is to flash a ROM of your choice and update your baseband. It should have the same base as the ROM. So if the ROM is based on a NB8 firmware, you have to use a NB8 baseband. But flash only the modem.bin file, not the non-hlos file.
for working wifi use a custom kernel like KT or similar.
The performance and the batterylife are in my opinion much better in 4.3 and 4.4.2.
it depends on your using.
just try a little bit. As long as you not update you bootloader, you're on the safe side.
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Hi, first of all, you lucky guy can flash every custom ROM 4.3 and also 4.4.2 when no new bootloader is included.:good:
the Samsung based ROMS are fully working. All you have to do is to flash a ROM of your choice and update your baseband. It should have the same base as the ROM. So if the ROM is based on a NB8 firmware, you have to use a NB8 baseband. But flash only the modem.bin file, not the non-hlos file.
for working wifi use a custom kernel like KT or similar.
The performance and the batterylife are in my opinion much better in 4.3 and 4.4.2.
it depends on your using.
just try a little bit. As long as you not update you bootloader, you're on the safe side.
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How do I know that a custom ROM doesn't contain the new bootloader? Does the bootloader come with the kernel? If so, which kernel versions are safe? Which custom ROM without new kernel is most stable?
Do 4.3 and 4.4 run on the old kernel? Are there significant improvements in the original kernel coming with 4.3?
After reading about 4.4 I absolutely do not want to update to KitKat.
Many questions but the amount of kernels and ROMs is simply overpowering for someone who does not have the time to read every post on XDA every day.
Seeing forward to your answers.
I'm pre knox and have flashed various rims including the Google Edition roms. Currently I'm on KitKat TW rom using the pre rooted debloated version. You'll have to update to the kitkat kernel but this is included in the rom. All custom roms that are flashable via recovery will not have the new bootloader. Knox is tied into the bootloader. Why don't you want to install kitkat? It's better overall with the new kitkat features.
I run KT kernel it's a fantastic kernel in my opinion and has many tweaks.
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nikzDHD said:
Why don't you want to install kitkat? It's better overall with the new kitkat features.
I run KT kernel it's a fantastic kernel in my opinion and has many tweaks.
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Thank you for your answer. I read about problems accessing the SD card in KitKat. Or is this not a problem with custom ROMs? I want to be able to move app data to SD card.
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eTaurus said:
Thank you for your answer. I read about problems accessing the SD card in KitKat. Or is this not a problem with custom ROMs? I want to be able to move app data to SD card.
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it got fixed, don't worry about it
nikzDHD said:
I'm pre knox and have flashed various rims including the Google Edition roms. Currently I'm on KitKat TW rom using the pre rooted debloated version. You'll have to update to the kitkat kernel but this is included in the rom. All custom roms that are flashable via recovery will not have the new bootloader. Knox is tied into the bootloader. Why don't you want to install kitkat? It's better overall with the new kitkat features.
I run KT kernel it's a fantastic kernel in my opinion and has many tweaks.
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Would you mind and give me the link? I want something to start with.
Hi guys,
So, I just got an S IV today, as a replacement for my beloved S III.
As I've been running CM11 for a long time on my S III, I'd like to keep it that way on my S IV.
However, I've been looking a bit in the forums, and as I got the official 4.4.2 on my S IV, I see that I might be running into some problems, due to Knox - Or will I?
As far as I've understood, I just have to be sure not to flash something that downgrades or installs another bootloader, correct?
If a kind person can clearify for me, that I just can go ahead and do an auto-root, flash a custom recovery and a custom CM11 build - Or what I should avoid, that would be perfect.
Thank you in advance
Your only problem will be that your warranty will be voided if you flash a custom recovery. Other than that there should be no big issues if you are using aosp roms.
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Scumbag Sammy.. But I guess it's almost the same as the flash-counter on my SIII.
Anyway, then there's no chance of bricking and so on?
And if I choose to go back to official Sammy software, I will have to only upgrade, not downgrade?
Well there is always a minimal chance of bricking but if you read the instructions carefully then you will be fine.
Just search for a custom recovery and flash it via odin. Then install the rom you want.
You will not be able to downgrade but in my opinion KitKat is good
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Neo3000x said:
Scumbag Sammy.. But I guess it's almost the same as the flash-counter on my SIII.
Anyway, then there's no chance of bricking and so on?
And if I choose to go back to official Sammy software, I will have to only upgrade, not downgrade?
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Yes it's the same flash counter ? Very difficult to brick as long as you follow guides ?
If you want to go back official you can use odin & correct there's no way to downgrade only stay same or upgrade when next version comes up ?
Hi All
Just unpacked my new unlocked UK/EU Note 3 and its still on its 1st charge, however, I traded my S4 when I upgraded my contract and the KK on the S4 was abysmal and buggeed...
Question:
Is KK on the Note 3 as broken and would you recommend me to update to 442 or just flash the latest 4.3 in ODIN
Thanks
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Just unpacked my new unlocked UK/EU Note 3 and its still on its 1st charge, however, I traded my S4 when I upgraded my contract and the KK on the S4 was abysmal and buggeed...
Question:
Is KK on the Note 3 as broken and would you recommend me to update to 442 or just flash the latest 4.3 in ODIN
Thanks
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Depends on various things, KK on the Note is fine but JB was also -- I assume it has JB on it hence the KK question? cause you cannot downgrade to JB if KK is already only on it.
My recommendation, stay at 4.3 if you don't have any problems. I only update to kk, because Deepsleep problem in 4.3.
After updating to KitKat I don't have the Deepsleep issue.
The SD CARD permission crap for most 3rd party apps is not important for me
If for you, than stay at 4.3
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No, my N3 comes with XXUBMI6 (4.3) dated 11th Sept 2013 at bootup, but this is my works phone for my business, so I want 442 stock to be ok. I have read that theres an Update called MD6 which fixes the bugs of MD5, as long as i get good battery and for the N3 to function as it should then ill just update, but im asking if anyone has had any real issues with KK 442, like the issues on the S4 KK?
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My recommendation, stay at 4.3 if you don't have any problems. I only update to kk, because Deepsleep problem in 4.3.
After updating to KitKat I don't have the Deepsleep issue.
The SD CARD permission crap for most 3rd party apps is not important for me
If for you, than stay at 4.3
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All i use the SD card for is Photos, which is connected to OneDrive and Music, nothing else.. so like you I didnt have an issue on the SD either, But it sounds like 442 is fine, Ive just been burned by the s4 crap, and am a bit apprehensive..
NightOrchid said:
No, my N3 comes with XXUBMI6 (4.3) dated 11th Sept 2013 at bootup, but this is my works phone for my business, so I want 442 stock to be ok. I have read that theres an Update called MD6 which fixes the bugs of MD5, as long as i get good battery and for the N3 to function as it should then ill just update, but im asking if anyone has had any real issues with KK 442, like the issues on the S4 KK?
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My recommendation, stay at 4.3 if you don't have any problems. I only update to kk, because Deepsleep problem in 4.3.
After updating to KitKat I don't have the Deepsleep issue.
The SD CARD permission crap for most 3rd party apps is not important for me
If for you, than stay at 4.3
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All i use the SD card for is Photos, which is connected to OneDrive and Music, nothing else.. so like you I didnt have an issue on the SD either, But it sounds like 442 is fine, Ive just been burned by the s4 crap, and am a bit apprehensive..
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99 out of 100 users have zero issues with KK on the N3 - I had no issues either. - Go for the update.
buell47 said:
My recommendation, stay at 4.3 if you don't have any problems. I only update to kk, because Deepsleep problem in 4.3.
After updating to KitKat I don't have the Deepsleep issue.
The SD CARD permission crap for most 3rd party apps is not important for me
If for you, than stay at 4.3
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Like you I didnt have an issue with the SD permissions, I only used it for Pics, Music and MS Office documents.. so its ok.
Ive just been burned by the S$ KK and Im just a bit wary with my New N3 thats all..
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99 out of 100 users have zero issues with KK on the N3 - I had no issues either. - Go for the update.
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Thanks Friend., will do, appreciated.. Just my shiney new N3.. hehe. Wouldnt want to see it broken
Note 3 ist the Best phone for me, with 4.3, and also with 4.4.2
Can't say bad things about 4.4.2, but can't say..... go quickly and update your phone because KitKat sounds good or had any new features and so on. Both runs very good..... only Deepsleep was a problem.
If you make a update, do it right at first time. Spend some time an reset it before, use the recovery mode, wipe cache, use Odin and update your phone. Again reset via recovery mode
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So be carreful about Knox if you don't want losses your warranty
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If you flash the original Samsung Firmware with Odin you don't trigger Knox or something else!!!
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If you flash the original Samsung Firmware with Odin you don't trigger Knox or something else!!!
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Thanks all for your help and advice.. Im downloading XXUEND3 dated 14/04, which appears to be the latest one for UK/EU and ill flash with ODIN 309, then wipe through recovery and let you know how i get on.
Ive flashed using ODIN before so i know how it goes
Cheers
Good luck and enjoy your nice phone
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Just to add.
If you are on JB, you have possibility to root (and also update to KitKat with root) without triggering the KNOX. However, on KitKat, there is currently no way to root by not killing the KNOX.
I have searched but do not understand LP bootstacks. Can someone tell me what is LP bootstacks? When I use it? By the way, what 4.2, 4.4 aboot? I am on stock lollipop with TWRP 2.8.7.1.
kennguy said:
I have searched but do not understand LP bootstacks. Can someone tell me what is LP bootstacks? When I use it? By the way, what 4.2, 4.4 aboot? I am on stock lollipop with TWRP 2.8.7.1.
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Lollipop bootstack is just a bunch of files which are neccesary along the bootloader for functioning like download mode related files, modem/radio related files etc. And aboot is basically the bootloader.
So short, aboot is the bootloader and bootstack are the additional files along the bootloader.
Loki roms need 4.2 aboot. Bump works on 4.2 and 4.4. I suggest reading the OP's what you all need to use to let the rom function properly. Also use newer roms as the old roms are not all perfect with the old sourcecode.
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wulsic said:
Lollipop bootstack is just a bunch of files which are neccesary along the bootloader for functioning like download mode related files, modem/radio related files etc. And aboot is basically the bootloader.
So short, aboot is the bootloader and bootstack are the additional files along the bootloader.
Loki roms need 4.2 aboot. Bump works on 4.2 and 4.4. I suggest reading the OP's what you all need to use to let the rom function properly. Also use newer roms as the old roms are not all perfect with the old sourcecode.
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Is there any benefit of Bump mate?
kennguy said:
Is there any benefit of Bump mate?
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Yes the benefit of bump.is that it works on both 4.2 and 4.4 and because its easier. No big other benefit really, only for devs mostly
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wulsic said:
Lollipop bootstack is just a bunch of files which are neccesary along the bootloader for functioning like download mode related files, modem/radio related files etc. And aboot is basically the bootloader.
So short, aboot is the bootloader and bootstack are the additional files along the bootloader.
Loki roms need 4.2 aboot. Bump works on 4.2 and 4.4. I suggest reading the OP's what you all need to use to let the rom function properly. Also use newer roms as the old roms are not all perfect with the old sourcecode.
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I have been wondering what a bootstack was too, even asked people!! No one ever replied, gotta love the G2 forums...
Thank you for the explanation!
What do you guys think is the most stable / best firmware out there? I have seen all sorts of people use COD6 / DOK2 / NK4... etc.
Is there one thats better than the others? I think the DOK2 is the most up to date AFAIK.
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What do you guys think is the most stable / best firmware out there? I have seen all sorts of people use COD6 / DOK2 / NK4... etc.
Is there one thats better than the others? I think the DOK2 is the most up to date AFAIK.
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I'm still on kit Kat because all of the Xposed modules work. I didn't see a big benefit to moving to lollipop. Also once you go to 5.1.1 you are stick with the lollipop bootloader.
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Thats DOK2?
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Thats DOK2?
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ANK4
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I used to be on ANK4 but I switched to DOK2. It seems I am having more gps issues with DOK2 than what I did ANK4. Its just too bad I am at work currently or else I would flash back.
If you've gone to 5.1.1 then you have to stick to either that or 5.0.1 because they lock the bootloader to lollipop.
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I stayed with NK4 as well. I've learned that most times updating isn't the best way to go. I always wait to see how things go. As for what I have seen, the NK4 (KK 4.4.4) is still the best with battery life. What I've been doing is playing CM 12.1 (nightly 10-01-15) while still on the NK4 and all works flawlessly.
I've stayed on FireKat now on v22. The battery is outstanding and it keeps the original touchwiz which I like. Thankfully we have options
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looks like I am stuck on dok2