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Just a quick one guys, is the bootloader any different in the firmware builds of 4.4.2? As in, NB3 or NA7 etc etc? Is it really worth flashing a later firmware to get the 'latest' bootloader? In my knowledge, I doubt there much different as it has not much of a bearing in the firmware itself, I've been told anyway.
Thanks in advance!
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Just a quick one guys, is the bootloader any different in the firmware builds of 4.4.2? As in, NB3 or NA7 etc etc? Is it really worth flashing a later firmware to get the 'latest' bootloader? In my knowledge, I doubt there much different as it has not much of a bearing in the firmware itself, I've been told anyway.
Thanks in advance!
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As far as I know, there is no difference in the bootloader between the KK builds -- or if there is, they seem to be fully compatible.
Thanks mate. Yeah, I didn't think so. What are you running at the moment? Did you flash KK firmware and flash custom?
Thanks again.
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I think you can download these versions, extract it and binary compare the files inside to know if they are the same or different.
Flashing bootloaders is a risky business... These little puppies will almost always give you an expensive paperweight if something goes wrong during the flash...
Custom rom with NB3 bootloader... Like the old Androidnow rom, NC2 but developement has stopped and also Assassin rom, waiting fop the V3 with the latest base....
Both those roms have good battery life (depending on use of course) but my screen on time is generally around 4 - 5 hours with around 70% battery left....
That's insane. Haha. I'm just sick of waiting for Samsung to do there business in Australia. This is ridiculous. I've never had a device this long without rooting... It feels, unnatural haha. I'm thinking xnote, crash, bobcat it assassins.
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ultramag69 said:
Flashing bootloaders is a risky business... These little puppies will almost always give you an expensive paperweight if something goes wrong during the flash...
Custom rom with NB3 bootloader... Like the old Androidnow rom, NC2 but developement has stopped and also Assassin rom, waiting fop the V3 with the latest base....
Both those roms have good battery life (depending on use of course) but my screen on time is generally around 4 - 5 hours with around 70% battery left....
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wow that is awesome screen time... but are you connected to internet at all times? If so, is it with wifi or mobile network?
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xdm9mm said:
wow that is awesome screen time... but are you connected to internet at all times? If so, is it with wifi or mobile network?
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Both... However in the last few days this has increased somewhat due to me turning off my mobile data cause I went over my limit... Bloody google+ and it's update of pictures and videos. There's a reason I use a 64gb sd card....
Well, I flashed the Netherlands latest firmware and working like a charm. Even kept my Data partition haha.
So bootloader is 4.4.2 now. Trying to find a way to flash twrp without tripping Knox. Don't think it's possible. I've read that the kernel and the recovery are the parts that trigger Knox.
I noticed that there is an option to flash update zips through stock recovery. Could this be a way to flash a rooted custom rom with stock kernel and not trigger Knox?
Thanks again.
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jisoo said:
As far as I know, there is no difference in the bootloader between the KK builds -- or if there is, they seem to be fully compatible.
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ND3 has a locked bootloader apparently, that makes it impossible to downgrade to earlier KK builds.
@antique_sonic
upgraded and tried to flash NC2 FW/roms but they don't work..
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Well, I flashed the Netherlands latest firmware and working like a charm. Even kept my Data partition haha.
So bootloader is 4.4.2 now. Trying to find a way to flash twrp without tripping Knox. Don't think it's possible. I've read that the kernel and the recovery are the parts that trigger Knox.
I noticed that there is an option to flash update zips through stock recovery. Could this be a way to flash a rooted custom rom with stock kernel and not trigger Knox?
Thanks again.
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No way to flash a custom kernel or recovery and keep Knox. Also no way to root on 4.4.2 without tripping knox, if you had rooted on 4.3 and kept root while upgrading to 4.4.2 you could have used MO (Mobile Odin) to flash roms.
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Dam, I just flashed. Haha. Oh well, thanks anyway man. I'll just have to trip it then! Haha. Hopefully in time CF works out how to reset the efuse... If it's even physically possible...
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OK after trying a couple of ROMs and failing miserably and having to reload the stock Firmeware a couple of time i am getting tired of this. Even what Rom makers say it is W8 compatible i get screwed... It's not my first phone, was on a S3 before and did plenty of modding and Roms , but this S5 W8 is starting to give me headaches... Maybe it's me, maybe i'm stupid all of a sudden...
So Canadian owners of the S5 W8 what Roms are you using successful ? And how did you do it.
I know it was discussed before and the consensus was that a separate W8 Canadian section was not needed due to it's compatibility with the F version, but i think it is, maybe it's just me....
W8 Telus here. XtraSoLite for the last two weeks without any problem. Stock kernel. Blaze kernel didn't work for me so I gave up for now.
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OK after trying a couple of ROMs and failing miserably and having to reload the stock Firmeware a couple of time i am getting tired of this. Even what Rom makers say it is W8 compatible i get screwed... It's not my first phone, was on a S3 before and did plenty of modding and Roms , but this S5 W8 is starting to give me headaches... Maybe it's me, maybe i'm stupid all of a sudden...
So Canadian owners of the S5 W8 what Roms are you using successful ? And how did you do it.
I know it was discussed before and it the consensus was that a separate W8 Canadian section was not needed but i think it is, maybe it's just me....
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What Kernel did you use ? This one StockXXU1ANE2Kernel from the link in the Rom thread ?
I'm using alliance with blaze kernel and have had no problem flashing any thing else.What I did was flash super su via Odin to get root, then I installed mobile Odin and flashed latest twrp recovery. I backed up stock Rom then through Rom customizer I flashed alliance. Good luck.
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Salem's galaxy said:
I'm using alliance with blaze kernel and have had no problem flashing any thing else.What I did was flash super su via Odin to get root, then I installed mobile Odin and flashed latest twrp recovery. I backed up stock Rom then through Rom customizer I flashed alliance. Good luck.
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Did you have the W8 version or the F ?
Bell variant w8. I see it says sent from my sm-g900f. I tHink that is because when I flashed the Rom it changed my build.prop.
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Just changed my signature.
Sporting Alliance with insane customization and flawless design.
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Did you have the W8 version or the F ?
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Are you still having difficulty? What are your steps? Maybe I could help?
Sporting Alliance with insane customization and flawless design.
Before you flash a ROM you should make a backup through recovery. In the case that the flash fails this will enable you to recover instead of ODIN restore
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Thanks Salem , got the Alliance rom running ( still had the yellow kernel warning ) but it booted. Followed the steps you wrote.
I'm on the fido w8 and I tried just about every rom and blaze kernel everything worked. I'm back to stock with exposed though nothing beats it imo.
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New W8 version out for Canada http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/canadian-900w8-roms-released-t2809889
mrnovanova said:
I'm on the fido w8 and I tried just about every rom and blaze kernel everything worked. I'm back to stock with exposed though nothing beats it imo.
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Newb here.
When you say stock with exposed .. can you clarify ?
Stock rom? or stock kernel? And is exposed a rom or just a framework you can install?
Cheers.
Stock, rom stock kernel only xposed framework and modules mainly wanam.
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Using bobcat ROM v1.0 with kt latest kernel @2.7 GHz!!
Is anyone on Bell ? what rom works ?
What's the best ?
I heard Omega is good ????
Is anyone else getting a persistent voicemail notification? I'm on the Rogers variant and some Googling has indicated that people using the AT&T/Sprint versions had the same issue. I'm on the latest update but this is still happening.
What Canadian Rom come whit Spanish whit it.
I'm sure
Cholerabob said:
Thanks Salem , got the Alliance rom running ( still had the yellow kernel warning ) but it booted. Followed the steps you wrote.
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can you tell me what steps you took i too have the yellow kernal warning but alliance stop mid boot....and then all black
I know this is old but I happen to be playing with an s5 from bell right now. I'm on ressurection remix nougat and lineage os 14.1 nougat works as well. Flash cf root with Odin. Flash a custom recovery, I use TWRP. Go to the ressurection site and get the ROM, for you it will be klte. Reboot into recovery,wipe the phone, install ressurection remix. You also want the magisk 12.0 zip and manager APK. That's pretty much it. Custom rooted ROM running a lineage kernel. If you aren't familiar with lineage it's where the cyangoen team went. MIUI ROM works too but it's a slow download for not much reward. I've loaded lots of others but they require tweaks and fixes for things and I don't want you to need more help after the fact. Stick with one of the two I listed for the s5 and you will be ok. Also remember KLTE ROM. And as for how I'm on two roms that's a whole other story and probably not something you need to do.
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I know this is old but I happen to be playing with an s5 from bell right now. I'm on ressurection remix nougat and lineage os 14.1 nougat works as well. ....
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I'm doing the same with my SM-900W8, but I'm finding the Camera app (in RR keeps crashing). I have no issues when I use the stock rom. The camera is the only problem I'm finding. It freezes (sometimes after the first couple photos) and then reboots. Are you having this issue? Likely not. Don't know if I'm missing something.
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I'm doing the same with my SM-900W8, but I'm finding the Camera app (in RR keeps crashing). I have no issues when I use the stock rom. The camera is the only problem I'm finding. It freezes (sometimes after the first couple photos) and then reboots. Are you having this issue? Likely not. Don't know if I'm missing something.
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Download this. It's a different kernel. It fixes the bug.
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=889764386195917649
Flash it from recovery.
Basically I'm wondering if I even need to update my stock ROM or can I just put new 4.4 ROMs in the Safestrap slots and everything should be fine?
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Basically I'm wondering if I even need to update my stock ROM or can I just put new 4.4 ROMs in the Safestrap slots and everything should be fine?
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If you're on MJE you can't run the NC4 roms. But don't take the OTA to do it. Plus your version of safestrap will need to be updated as well.
Read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627
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If you're on MJE you can't run the NC4 roms. But don't take the OTA to do it. Plus your version of safestrap will need to be updated as well.
Read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627
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It's looking like I'm going to flash the NC4 deodexed stock rooted from Beans...
That will then allow to me rom it up in 4.4 land I believe.
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TMFGO45 said:
It's looking like I'm going to flash the NC4 deodexed stock rooted from Beans...
That will then allow to me rom it up in 4.4 land I believe.
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You should be fine after that. Be advised that rom slots work but it's advised on most roms to only use the stock rom slot. I thought Hashcode would get those fixed soon but he's getting a new gig and won't be supporting safestrap anymore. Can't be anything but happy for him and be ever so thankful for what he's given us..:good:
Just did mine on Tmo N910T
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Just did mine on Tmo N910T
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I did mine because of xposed and also I think I encountered several crashes on Lollipop.
I tried to give lollipop a chance but after 2 weeks and a couple of hard resets the battery life was still significantly worse than Kit Kat.
Flashed back yesterday and after investing 3 hours setting everything back up I'm really happy with my decision. Battery life is looking good again and I now realise that you loose more than you gain from running lollipop in is present state.
Can you downgrade without root? I know I've tried to downgrade from BOC5 to BOC3 with Odin and didn't work.
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George.B said:
Can you downgrade without root? I know I've tried to downgrade from BOC5 to BOC3 with Odin and didn't work.
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I was able to go from BOC2 to AOA1 via Odin full firmware flash on the sm-n910u.
Maybe you could try going back to 4.4.4 and then up to BOC2.
George.B said:
Can you downgrade without root? I know I've tried to downgrade from BOC5 to BOC3 with Odin and didn't work.
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You should be able to. The root has no effect on Odin. Did you set it to download mode first?
It was giving me a headache but it's simple... Go into recovery while still on lollipop and do a factory reset, then a cache wipe, then do your Odin, it works no problem.
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i am seriously thinking about downgrading back to kitkat !!
Can i just download the KITKAT from sammobile and flash it via odin (after a factory reset and cleared cashes in recovery?)
another question, i want to root if i got back to kitkat, but on the website of chainfire the root file is made for android 5.0.1, can i root my Kitkat with this autoroot file ???
and do you know if Blurred UI (Xposed) works on kitkat ?
i dont like the UI on kitkat very much
Thanks in advance !
You will need to find the correct version of cf autoroot for the version of android. at least on my F version i did.
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You will need to find the correct version of cf autoroot for the version of android. at least on my F version i did.
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but where did you find it ? can you give me a link maybe ?
on chainfire's website it only says 5.0.1
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i read somewhere that you have to do something with the bootloader to succesfully downgrade back to kitkat, is this true ?
Almost downgraded back to kitkat because of battery life, factory reset saved lollipop. Now it's smooth and battery life is much better
Racinghart91 said:
i am seriously thinking about downgrading back to kitkat !!
Can i just download the KITKAT from sammobile and flash it via odin (after a factory reset and cleared cashes in recovery?)
another question, i want to root if i got back to kitkat, but on the website of chainfire the root file is made for android 5.0.1, can i root my Kitkat with this autoroot file ???
and do you know if Blurred UI (Xposed) works on kitkat ?
i dont like the UI on kitkat very much
Thanks in advance !
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You will need to find the correct version of cf autoroot for the version of android. at least on my F version i did.
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I used the latest version of cf-autoroot on kit Kat just yesterday and all went fine.
junkun13 said:
Almost downgraded back to kitkat because of battery life, factory reset saved lollipop. Now it's smooth and battery life is much better
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I did two factory resets and my battery life was still up the fugg. Apparently there is a known bug in lollipop that keeps apps awake and polling mobile data even when they aren't using it (or something like that). Even if your battery life is better after the reset I doubt it's back to kit Kat levels.
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I used the latest version of cf-autoroot on kit Kat just yesterday and all went fine.
I did two factory resets and my battery life was still up the fugg. Apparently there is a known bug in lollipop that keeps apps awake and polling mobile data even when they aren't using it (or something like that). Even if your battery life is better after the reset I doubt it's back to kit Kat levels.
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thanks !
so i dont have to do anything about the bootloader
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im downgrading right now !
i cant wait to get back on kitkat ! and use xposed again im happy like a pig in the sh*t :laugh:
so i downgraded succesfully !
Yeah !
but i cant root with the autoroot file from chainfires website, it fails.. it says something about recovery...
i dont think this has anything to do with it but, i downloaded the stock firmware from sammobile from Vodafone ( my phone was vodafone but on lollipop roms i downloaded the unbranded version) could this maybe be the problem ?
i fixed it, reactivation lock was still enabled ( i wanted to go to fast )
I downgraded because of Xposed and a better battery life
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Almost downgraded back to kitkat because of battery life, factory reset saved lollipop. Now it's smooth and battery life is much better
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I too shall be downgrading, I have really tried with Lollipop but its a bag of ****, my phone is laggy and the performance is terrible, I get about 6 hours less battery, this is after doing 3 factory resets now lol.
I know that the OD builds are meant to be better but Samsung have fudged the general LP rollout.
Rolled back yesterday and soooo relieved. My apps aren't being killed off, and I don't have horrendous Antutu.
Lollipop IS pretty though, KitKat is so Boring! Still, I'll wait for a better update, I'm very happy.
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Rolled back too, and there is such a big difference in touch response and general performance. Staying on Kitkat until they sort out Lollipop.
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I wonder if i can roll back? I am on n910g india model completely stock.
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I used the latest version of cf-autoroot on kit Kat just yesterday and all went fine.
I did two factory resets and my battery life was still up the fugg. Apparently there is a known bug in lollipop that keeps apps awake and polling mobile data even when they aren't using it (or something like that). Even if your battery life is better after the reset I doubt it's back to kit Kat levels.
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yes bug is there. apps can drain battery but eventhough i have 100 apps or something it only happens me with twitter and nba game time app. so battery can be changed by people cuz they use different apps. battery is great for me in lollipop alteast its totaly same with kitkat still 6 hours sot easyly.
general performance is way better in lollipop i compared it alot of times lollipop is much responsive smoother and faster in everywhere for me.
Anyway to downgrade stock 5.0 to 4.4. Seams there isnt anymore support for verizon note 3 as compared to tmobile version which i use to own. I went to note 4 then 5. This is for my brother and after trying numerous methods to root/install custom recovery, either the links no longer work or the method itself do work on 5.0
Verizon phones are much more complicated to mod than others
Root success........
We now have root.
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Anyway to downgrade stock 5.0 to 4.4. Seams there isnt anymore support for verizon note 3 as compared to tmobile version which i use to own. I went to note 4 then 5. This is for my brother and after trying numerous methods to root/install custom recovery, either the links no longer work or the method itself do work on 5.0
Verizon phones are much more complicated to mod than others
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GoNavyMike said:
We now have root.
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Could you please point me in the right direction. Which method really works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...b6-of1-n900v-note-3-verizon-oneclick-t3333569
I had to go back to 4.4.4 again.. For some reason, even with the stock version, my battery drains 2X faster... On 4.4.4, I usually get nearly 5 hours of screen time and the battery lasts all day. On 5.0, I max out at about 2 hours screen time and at most 10 hours. If I check the battery drain, it is always the Android OS.
Anyway, You can easily root the 5.0 and then downgrade to 4.4.4 using FlashFire.
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I had to go back to 4.4.4 again.. For some reason, even with the stock version, my battery drains 2X faster... On 4.4.4, I usually get nearly 5 hours of screen time and the battery lasts all day. On 5.0, I max out at about 2 hours screen time and at most 10 hours. If I check the battery drain, it is always the Android OS.
Anyway, You can easily root the 5.0 and then downgrade to 4.4.4 using FlashFire.
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Did you actually go from lp rooted to 4.4.x?
Far as I know that is impossible. . .
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Yes.... I installed Jasmine ROM last year and had the same battery drain and additional unstable OS, with all the Lollipop versions. So went back to 4.4.4. After trying the stock Lollipop, several of the unstable issues were gone but not all and the battety drain was the same. So went back to 4.4.4. I even mounted the 4.4.4 system.img in Ubuntu, debloated it and now have a working, debloated 4.4.4 flashable rom through Flashfire.
Can you try safestrap 3.75b see if that might work.. 4.4.2 was the last one working
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4.4.2 is not possible
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Did you actually go from lp rooted to 4.4.x?
Far as I know that is impossible. . .
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4.4.2 is not possible
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Trying to clarify this... it is possible to odin downgrade from 5.0 (rooted or not) to 4.4.4 stock. Root is not preserved this way, of course...
But are you saying that you have flashed a system.img from rooted 5.0 with flashfire and kept root in 4.4.4 ?
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Yes.... I installed Jasmine ROM last year and had the same battery drain and additional unstable OS, with all the Lollipop versions. So went back to 4.4.4. After trying the stock Lollipop, several of the unstable issues were gone but not all and the battety drain was the same. So went back to 4.4.4. I even mounted the 4.4.4 system.img in Ubuntu, debloated it and now have a working, debloated 4.4.4 flashable rom through Flashfire.
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Hey, trying to figure this out... do you have root in 4.4.4 after flashing just system.img (and probably boot.img) with FlashFire ???
Jusy FYI, as @bishop0114 has indicated, you CAN flash stock based 4.4.4 roms with FlashFire from rooted 5.0 and keep root.
I was able to install stock 4.4.4 and then SuperSU and it seems to be stable.
Yeah 4.4.4 works well. You can also install Xposed and Viper4Android. V4A only works if you disable Knox, which is pretty easy if you are rooted.
The only way we can get xposed to work on 5.0 is to deodex it. I extracted the system image for 5.0 and deodexed it. After rebuilding and flashing, I didnt get any errors but it would'nt boot. I havent had time to get back to it.
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