Anyway to downgrade stock 5.0 to 4.4. Seams there isnt anymore support for verizon note 3 as compared to tmobile version which i use to own. I went to note 4 then 5. This is for my brother and after trying numerous methods to root/install custom recovery, either the links no longer work or the method itself do work on 5.0
Verizon phones are much more complicated to mod than others
Root success........
We now have root.
tyronekndrck said:
Anyway to downgrade stock 5.0 to 4.4. Seams there isnt anymore support for verizon note 3 as compared to tmobile version which i use to own. I went to note 4 then 5. This is for my brother and after trying numerous methods to root/install custom recovery, either the links no longer work or the method itself do work on 5.0
Verizon phones are much more complicated to mod than others
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GoNavyMike said:
We now have root.
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Could you please point me in the right direction. Which method really works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...b6-of1-n900v-note-3-verizon-oneclick-t3333569
I had to go back to 4.4.4 again.. For some reason, even with the stock version, my battery drains 2X faster... On 4.4.4, I usually get nearly 5 hours of screen time and the battery lasts all day. On 5.0, I max out at about 2 hours screen time and at most 10 hours. If I check the battery drain, it is always the Android OS.
Anyway, You can easily root the 5.0 and then downgrade to 4.4.4 using FlashFire.
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I had to go back to 4.4.4 again.. For some reason, even with the stock version, my battery drains 2X faster... On 4.4.4, I usually get nearly 5 hours of screen time and the battery lasts all day. On 5.0, I max out at about 2 hours screen time and at most 10 hours. If I check the battery drain, it is always the Android OS.
Anyway, You can easily root the 5.0 and then downgrade to 4.4.4 using FlashFire.
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Did you actually go from lp rooted to 4.4.x?
Far as I know that is impossible. . .
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Yes.... I installed Jasmine ROM last year and had the same battery drain and additional unstable OS, with all the Lollipop versions. So went back to 4.4.4. After trying the stock Lollipop, several of the unstable issues were gone but not all and the battety drain was the same. So went back to 4.4.4. I even mounted the 4.4.4 system.img in Ubuntu, debloated it and now have a working, debloated 4.4.4 flashable rom through Flashfire.
Can you try safestrap 3.75b see if that might work.. 4.4.2 was the last one working
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4.4.2 is not possible
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{davros} said:
Did you actually go from lp rooted to 4.4.x?
Far as I know that is impossible. . .
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4.4.2 is not possible
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Trying to clarify this... it is possible to odin downgrade from 5.0 (rooted or not) to 4.4.4 stock. Root is not preserved this way, of course...
But are you saying that you have flashed a system.img from rooted 5.0 with flashfire and kept root in 4.4.4 ?
bishop0114 said:
Yes.... I installed Jasmine ROM last year and had the same battery drain and additional unstable OS, with all the Lollipop versions. So went back to 4.4.4. After trying the stock Lollipop, several of the unstable issues were gone but not all and the battety drain was the same. So went back to 4.4.4. I even mounted the 4.4.4 system.img in Ubuntu, debloated it and now have a working, debloated 4.4.4 flashable rom through Flashfire.
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Hey, trying to figure this out... do you have root in 4.4.4 after flashing just system.img (and probably boot.img) with FlashFire ???
Jusy FYI, as @bishop0114 has indicated, you CAN flash stock based 4.4.4 roms with FlashFire from rooted 5.0 and keep root.
I was able to install stock 4.4.4 and then SuperSU and it seems to be stable.
Yeah 4.4.4 works well. You can also install Xposed and Viper4Android. V4A only works if you disable Knox, which is pretty easy if you are rooted.
The only way we can get xposed to work on 5.0 is to deodex it. I extracted the system image for 5.0 and deodexed it. After rebuilding and flashing, I didnt get any errors but it would'nt boot. I havent had time to get back to it.
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I stayed on 4.2.2 rooted with TWRP and never took the MJA/MK2 OTAs, to avoid knox. I've been waiting for KitKat, and I'm ready to take the plunge. I've read through a bunch of threads, and have thoroughly confused myself. I have a few basic questions, so I can determine what my options are:
1) Is it possible to go from MF9 (rooted) to NAE, and retain my data? What happens to the modifications I made to MF9 (hotspot, xposed, etc.)?
2) If the answer to 1 is no, is it reasonable to assume that there will be a flashable NAE rom in the near future, so that I wouldn't have to odin to MK2 before going through the OTA update to NAE?
3) Should I give up on trying to keep my existing bootloader, and just suck it up and take knox? It seems like there's probably enough differences in the rom and modem that the bootloader is probably a necessary evil at this point.
Thanks in advance for your help.
There have been several reports of people whose WiFi and data have worked just fine with the NAE ROM plus older bootloader like MF9. I'd wait until a stock rooted NAE ROM appears so we can try it with the knox-free MF9 bootloader.
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I am in the same situation and currently on a stock rooted MF9 with a custom recovery as well. I would like to know the best upgrade path to 4.4.2 and hopefully stay on a knox free boot loader.
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Once Warboy releases the updated stock, rooted NAE, I'm gonna flash it with Philz recovery to see whether everything's compatible with the Knox-free MF9 bootloader. In the meanwhile, I'm gonna flash just the NAE modem. Cant wait for Kitkat~! (Even though I've had the 4.4.2 update for a long time through my Nexus 5, I'm still very excited, LOL~)
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Im still on mdl lol.....maybe I should atleast update to mf9? Haha
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cfendrick said:
I am in the same situation and currently on a stock rooted MF9 with a custom recovery as well. I would like to know the best upgrade path to 4.4.2 and hopefully stay on a knox free boot loader.
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I'm in same boat
on MF9 , didnt even go to 4.3, still sitting at 4.2.2 (with the update icon in my status bar, but i assume its for 4.3 not kit kat)
Im rooted and have exposed installed
would rather have a knox free loader too!
if anybody can advise on the best route to take would be lovely
would like to have kit kat on my phone today!!
I was on this boat but last night flashed the gummy Rom. It is okay but I would love to have the stock Rom. I don't like few things on the Gummy.
icuc said:
I was on this boat but last night flashed the gummy Rom. It is okay but I would love to have the stock Rom. I don't like few things on the Gummy.
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so you had MF9 bootloader? (and do you keep that one or switch to the knox one?)
just flashed rom with TRWP? (that'll update radio too?)
and what things dont you like on Gummy?
sandman121383 said:
Im still on mdl lol.....maybe I should atleast update to mf9? Haha
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Lol I've been wondering if anyone else stayed on 4.2.2. Lol Im rooted with custom recovery. I hit the update button the other night and it wouldn't install and that icon went away, so I got that going for me. But I can't wait for kit kat, just waiting on the whole knox deal.
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so you had MF9 bootloader? (and do you keep that one or switch to the knox one?)
just flashed rom with TRWP? (that'll update radio too?)
and what things dont you like on Gummy?
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Yeah I have MF9 and I could keep the same.
I had issues with BT connection with my BMW but works fine with BT headset.
Home screen kind of wacky and you can't select the one that you like.
I just went back to 4.2.2 again until I find a good one.
Yikes
I'm in the same situation, living on my phone with MF9, have TWRP/Custom Recovery installed, and am interested to upgrade to Kitkat. I'm very interested to know what will be the upgrade method for me to 4.4.2, similar to many others in this thread.
I'm on slimkat now and all is working great. Only drawback is no theme chooser
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I just simply flashed the KitKat rom with twrp
SayWhat10 said:
I'm on slimkat now and all is working great. Only drawback is no theme chooser
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I just simply flashed the KitKat rom with twrp
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Which KitKat rom did you use? Did it just upgrade your OS or did you have to start from a clean install? Any issues with Knox?
asuh said:
Which KitKat rom did you use? Did it just upgrade your OS or did you have to start from a clean install? Any issues with Knox?
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i used Slimkat, but it froze occasionally. now im on CM 11 and its FLAWLESS
did clean install (but had some apps backed up with Titanium)
to my knowledge the whole Knox thing is with Touchwiz based roms
both slimkat and CM 11 are not,so no worries about Knox
I am still on MF9 modem and bootloader
gonna get around to flashing the NAE modem later though
SayWhat10 said:
i used Slimkat, but it froze occasionally. now im on CM 11 and its FLAWLESS
did clean install (but had some apps backed up with Titanium)
to my knowledge the whole Knox thing is with Touchwiz based roms
both slimkat and CM 11 are not,so no worries about Knox
I am still on MF9 modem and bootloader
gonna get around to flashing the NAE modem later though
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Alright. I'm personally looking to update only to official rom and NAE modem, not custom rom. Hoping I can do upgrade instead of clean install but hoping to get root access back or keep it at least.
Ok so i dont think i care about the knox thing anymore.. So with that said i would like to upgrade to 4.4.2 with the stock sprint rom. What is the best way to go about that? Sorry im just confused with the bootloader and modem flashes.. Its been awhile since ive had a samsung phone.. Im assuming i cant do the OTA due to TWRP....
I am running completely stock and rooted with saferoot,
4.2.2
baseband mf9
bootloader mf9
TWRP installed
please help
Can you just unroot and install the NAE ota then reroot with cf auto root? This is coming from stock rooted mk2.
so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
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so upgraded to the leaked KK for my att note 3, and my wife just got the note3 as well and hers had an OTA to KK - versions are different and the bugs im experiencing are not on her version... i know i cant downgrade but how can i flash that update (official) since when i got to do an update it says im at the latest?
thanks !
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I want to upgrade from MLG to NC2 too. However, there is no direct way to do it at the moment.
However, if you are still at A2, you can use Safestrap to switch between MJ5 and NC2 (Please don't flash NC2 aboot.mbn!!!!!!)
Yes there is just do the mj5 restore that is in this section then follow one of the guides on how to install the ota
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As Jerrycoffman said. . . .
Restore back to MJ5 using this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Don't root using the last part. It removes knox which will block you from being able to update the phone.
Next there will be a OTA to install its around 60mb. This is NB4
Lastly, just download kitkat OTA that's available. This may take sometime because it is a larger file size.
A lot of people have had issues installing the Kitkat OTA (including me). It fails at a certain percentage.
If you have this problem just follow this guide to fix it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701062
Make sure you back up any apps and files you need before starting this
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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Agree 100%!!!
mutantblack said:
Honestly instead of upgrading to official KK, why don't you just root and flash of of the available KK rom which is so much better than stock. Unless you don't care about the custom rom and root, you can follow what other has suggested to get the official OTA. Once you update thought, no way to get it root anymore
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There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
jreed3786 said:
There is absolutely NO reason, if you follow instructions correctly, to accept the official update. Been there, done that. Glad I returned my OFFICIAL 4.4.2 phone and got another one to keep root on!!!
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i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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As far as I know, that's a NO.
amendolaro1 said:
i was under the impression that i cannot root once i am on KK? also i use ISIS on a daily basis... do the new custom KK roms support ISIS?
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Isis can work on kit kat. I had it working but changed to wallet out of principal
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Best solution:
Go to Best Buy and ask one of the Samsung people to get you to stock, in less than 10 to 15 minutes you'll be in OTA Kit Kat.
No reason to have OTA kitkat when you lose root.
I use ISIS daily with the following mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425346
Just did mine on Tmo N910T
erapmicks said:
Just did mine on Tmo N910T
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I did mine because of xposed and also I think I encountered several crashes on Lollipop.
I tried to give lollipop a chance but after 2 weeks and a couple of hard resets the battery life was still significantly worse than Kit Kat.
Flashed back yesterday and after investing 3 hours setting everything back up I'm really happy with my decision. Battery life is looking good again and I now realise that you loose more than you gain from running lollipop in is present state.
Can you downgrade without root? I know I've tried to downgrade from BOC5 to BOC3 with Odin and didn't work.
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George.B said:
Can you downgrade without root? I know I've tried to downgrade from BOC5 to BOC3 with Odin and didn't work.
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I was able to go from BOC2 to AOA1 via Odin full firmware flash on the sm-n910u.
Maybe you could try going back to 4.4.4 and then up to BOC2.
George.B said:
Can you downgrade without root? I know I've tried to downgrade from BOC5 to BOC3 with Odin and didn't work.
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You should be able to. The root has no effect on Odin. Did you set it to download mode first?
It was giving me a headache but it's simple... Go into recovery while still on lollipop and do a factory reset, then a cache wipe, then do your Odin, it works no problem.
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i am seriously thinking about downgrading back to kitkat !!
Can i just download the KITKAT from sammobile and flash it via odin (after a factory reset and cleared cashes in recovery?)
another question, i want to root if i got back to kitkat, but on the website of chainfire the root file is made for android 5.0.1, can i root my Kitkat with this autoroot file ???
and do you know if Blurred UI (Xposed) works on kitkat ?
i dont like the UI on kitkat very much
Thanks in advance !
You will need to find the correct version of cf autoroot for the version of android. at least on my F version i did.
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You will need to find the correct version of cf autoroot for the version of android. at least on my F version i did.
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but where did you find it ? can you give me a link maybe ?
on chainfire's website it only says 5.0.1
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i read somewhere that you have to do something with the bootloader to succesfully downgrade back to kitkat, is this true ?
Almost downgraded back to kitkat because of battery life, factory reset saved lollipop. Now it's smooth and battery life is much better
Racinghart91 said:
i am seriously thinking about downgrading back to kitkat !!
Can i just download the KITKAT from sammobile and flash it via odin (after a factory reset and cleared cashes in recovery?)
another question, i want to root if i got back to kitkat, but on the website of chainfire the root file is made for android 5.0.1, can i root my Kitkat with this autoroot file ???
and do you know if Blurred UI (Xposed) works on kitkat ?
i dont like the UI on kitkat very much
Thanks in advance !
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mattjgay said:
You will need to find the correct version of cf autoroot for the version of android. at least on my F version i did.
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I used the latest version of cf-autoroot on kit Kat just yesterday and all went fine.
junkun13 said:
Almost downgraded back to kitkat because of battery life, factory reset saved lollipop. Now it's smooth and battery life is much better
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I did two factory resets and my battery life was still up the fugg. Apparently there is a known bug in lollipop that keeps apps awake and polling mobile data even when they aren't using it (or something like that). Even if your battery life is better after the reset I doubt it's back to kit Kat levels.
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I used the latest version of cf-autoroot on kit Kat just yesterday and all went fine.
I did two factory resets and my battery life was still up the fugg. Apparently there is a known bug in lollipop that keeps apps awake and polling mobile data even when they aren't using it (or something like that). Even if your battery life is better after the reset I doubt it's back to kit Kat levels.
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thanks !
so i dont have to do anything about the bootloader
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im downgrading right now !
i cant wait to get back on kitkat ! and use xposed again im happy like a pig in the sh*t :laugh:
so i downgraded succesfully !
Yeah !
but i cant root with the autoroot file from chainfires website, it fails.. it says something about recovery...
i dont think this has anything to do with it but, i downloaded the stock firmware from sammobile from Vodafone ( my phone was vodafone but on lollipop roms i downloaded the unbranded version) could this maybe be the problem ?
i fixed it, reactivation lock was still enabled ( i wanted to go to fast )
I downgraded because of Xposed and a better battery life
junkun13 said:
Almost downgraded back to kitkat because of battery life, factory reset saved lollipop. Now it's smooth and battery life is much better
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I too shall be downgrading, I have really tried with Lollipop but its a bag of ****, my phone is laggy and the performance is terrible, I get about 6 hours less battery, this is after doing 3 factory resets now lol.
I know that the OD builds are meant to be better but Samsung have fudged the general LP rollout.
Rolled back yesterday and soooo relieved. My apps aren't being killed off, and I don't have horrendous Antutu.
Lollipop IS pretty though, KitKat is so Boring! Still, I'll wait for a better update, I'm very happy.
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Rolled back too, and there is such a big difference in touch response and general performance. Staying on Kitkat until they sort out Lollipop.
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I wonder if i can roll back? I am on n910g india model completely stock.
dr.m0x said:
I used the latest version of cf-autoroot on kit Kat just yesterday and all went fine.
I did two factory resets and my battery life was still up the fugg. Apparently there is a known bug in lollipop that keeps apps awake and polling mobile data even when they aren't using it (or something like that). Even if your battery life is better after the reset I doubt it's back to kit Kat levels.
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yes bug is there. apps can drain battery but eventhough i have 100 apps or something it only happens me with twitter and nba game time app. so battery can be changed by people cuz they use different apps. battery is great for me in lollipop alteast its totaly same with kitkat still 6 hours sot easyly.
general performance is way better in lollipop i compared it alot of times lollipop is much responsive smoother and faster in everywhere for me.
So I stayed away from Lollipop due to silent mode being gone. Finally updated and sure enough hate the sounds modes. I saw there was an exposed module to bring back KitKat silent mode.
Been doing tons of research on this forum and other websites and can't find a clear answer. Does exposed work on the Verizon S5 on Lollipop?
Some sites say at first it didn't but it was then updated..then other sites say even the update won't work on touchwiz ROMS? Idk if that just means stock VZW ROMS or even custom touchwiz ROMS?? Very confusing
If anyone knows please let me know. Also if it WILL work are there instructions for this phone specifically. Any Xposed instructions I find mention booting to a customer recovery...and then I remembered hearing that safestrap doesn't work on Lollipop so idk
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I've done many clean install of kitkat previously.. Every time I switch roms so I know my phone is always running the best it can. Did the same when installing lollipop last night..full charge over night and man is this battery life bad compared to kit kat..didn't use my phone much this morning and just used it for an hour or so now and I'm at 60%
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Xposed afaik currently unofficially works with certain deodexed touchwiz roms
i'm using this version of xposed and it works fine. You do need to use FlashFire to flash the zip though give it a try just install the app then flash the zip.
wrecless said:
i'm using this version of xposed and it works fine. You do need to use safestrap to flash the zip though give it a try just install the app then flash the zip.
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Firmware has to be deodexed?
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kaipro said:
Firmware has to be deodexed?
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Yes. Samsung has done some of their own tinkering with ART on lollipop which makes Xposed cause a bootloop. The unofficial version only works on Deodexed versions.
@aholeinthewor1d
If you want to use Xposed on TW Lollipop, you can use this ROM. Then you can go here to install Xposed.
Also, Safestrap DOES work on Lollipop, you just have to use a KitKat kernel to access it. This app/thread makes accessing Safestrap on Lollipop extremely easy. No need for a computer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3132458
I posted it somedays back to confirm my note3's status..
PDA: N900VVRUDNJ6
CSC: N900VVZWDNJ6
RECOVERY : KTU84P.N900VVRUDNJ6
was running 4.4.4 with baseband N900XXUENG1...
I purchased it via CUSTOM India and tried to root it but failed then i c phone info application saying root access 'yes'.. to my surprise it was rooted and i installed supersu and all root apps works fine like greenify , xposed installer etc
I tried to flash custom recovery but there it ceased saying..."wrong software flashed,switch off phone and take it to nearest Verizon store"
I downloaded ob6 5.0 for Verizon and Odin flashed it...everything is working fine now..
Till now 4.4.4 root is not available then how it was rooted and by which method..it has custom recovery having Chinese written in middle...
Plz check pics and screen shots in the link given above...
Did u keep root with Lollipop OB6 ?
I flashed custom recovery on 4.4.4 and rom crashed.. i flashed lollipop and so lost the root...
Root for 4.4.4 is definately present and that too some Chinese method but we dont know ????
You had custom 4.4.4 with root which is NOT the same as stock 4.4.4 which can't be rooted. If your phone didn't crash, you could have flashed custom LP like Jasmine and kept root. Stock LP however can't be rooted
HueyT said:
You had custom 4.4.4 with root which is NOT the same as stock 4.4.4 which can't be rooted. If your phone didn't crash, you could have flashed custom LP like Jasmine and kept root. Stock LP however can't be rooted
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Stock 4.4.4 can be rooted with towel root.
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Hyro864 said:
Stock 4.4.4 can be rooted with towel root.
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This would be big news if true. Since when has TowelRoot worked on 4.4.4?
Hyro864 said:
Stock 4.4.4 can be rooted with towel root.
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Nope...4.4.2 can be rooted via towelroot. Not 4.4.4
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HueyT said:
You had custom 4.4.4 with root which is NOT the same as stock 4.4.4 which can't be rooted. If your phone didn't crash, you could have flashed custom LP like Jasmine and kept root. Stock LP however can't be rooted
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Yup...u r right and it is my misfortune.. although lollipop is good but if it ll get root it ll be awesome...lets hope for the best..