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Screen disappointment?? Anyone else?

Hi guys!
First off I wanna say I love my Note!! I have the Korea version as well.
Anyway, I still have my Galaxy S I which I ended the contract to get a Note.
I have to say as far as the "blacks" are concerned, the Galaxy S I wins hands down and also the text/color is sharper and even brighter than the Note.
I tried to take side by side photos but this was the best I could do to show the difference. Both phones are at max. brightness
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/img0005ib.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img0006pq.jpg/
The pics do not do justice. In person there is a real difference. Even the capacitive lights on the bottom are brighter and whiter.
Not a big deal though when my Gaalaxy S isnt being compared to the Note. Just bothers me a bit personally
Thanks!!

Its becoz of the resolution . Galaxy Has 480 x 800 and in Note 1280 x 800, their is a lot of difference in these too models. anyway Supercurio is working on color issues on Note. lets Hope for better result.
Display issue Thread by Supercurio.. here is the link .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430847

After installing Screen Adjuster free from the market ..I just upped the red a fraction [+3] to get rid of the slightest green tinge to my screen.
Then installed Voodoo Screen from the Market and set it to Native Mode... this has fixed 90% of the banding issue on my Note.
Now the screen is beautiful and can hardly fault it.

cybermessiah said:
After installing Screen Adjuster free from the market ..I just upped the red a fraction [+3] to get rid of the slightest green tinge to my screen.
Then installed Voodoo Screen from the Market and set it to Native Mode... this has fixed 90% of the banding issue on my Note.
Now the screen is beautiful and can hardly fault it.
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Was the app called "Voodoo Screen Tuning R/D" ?
I downloaded it from market but get a message saying it doesnt support my model.
I have a Korean Note

What did u turn red upto perhaps a screen shot of your settings if u could pls
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Aaaargh it requires root. Im n00b and dont want to do that i n the first month :/
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You can turn it on and off
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markmessier8888 said:
Hi guys!
First off I wanna say I love my Note!! I have the Korea version as well.
Anyway, I still have my Galaxy S I which I ended the contract to get a Note.
I have to say as far as the "blacks" are concerned, the Galaxy S I wins hands down and also the text/color is sharper and even brighter than the Note.
I tried to take side by side photos but this was the best I could do to show the difference. Both phones are at max. brightness
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/img0005ib.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img0006pq.jpg/
The pics do not do justice. In person there is a real difference. Even the capacitive lights on the bottom are brighter and whiter.
Not a big deal though when my Gaalaxy S isnt being compared to the Note. Just bothers me a bit personally
Thanks!!
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Coming from a galaxy s with a perfect screen i have to agree that the black levels on the note is not as good and yes picture quality on the first generation screen is better even if its just plain pentile and non hd resolution.
People who started with the galaxy note are easily blown away but those who started with the first gen need more to be pleased. I also started a thread about this before and got the same results on the black levels.. im hoping that hd samoled plus can redeem the samoled family.

I think it is an amazing screen!!! I love it, about it being less bright, god I think the note is too bright. I never have it on full brightness unless its really bright sunshine, and in the dark I wish it would go darker, but it won't.
And the black levels!!!(I'm sick of hearing about this in the this forum) some people are so anal about this, I mean I can only just about tell that the screen is on, on a full black screen when I'm in a pitch black room, which I did to test the blacks. So 99% of the time you can't tell, and even in a pitch black room as soon as theres a pixel of light on the screen your eyes adjust and the blacks look black again. Secondly how many of you that are bothered about this, actually sit in the cinema or watch tv or when on the computer, say oh my good the blacks aren't quiet black. I can pretty much guarantee that all the screens in your life aren't LED so why bother so much about it on your phone?

I also love the screen. No disappointment at all!
Would you rather have 480x800!?
This is brand new technology! It pushes the limits of what can be done at consumer price.
And people are complaining!? WTF!
edit: I owned a SGS1, but I like the Note's screen way more. Much sharper.
Although I must say I'm not experiencing the issues I read about on the forum.

DaanJordaan said:
Would you rather have 480x800!?
This is brand new technology! It pushes the limits of what can be done at consumer price.
And people are complaining!? WTF!
Although I must say I'm not experiencing the issues I read about on the forum.
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Are you joking???
I worked a few years in an industrial R&D department and designed new products, but we NEVER would have dared to release a product with such massive quality fluctuations (problems) onto a mass market! Especially when the screen is THE major unique selling argument!
Fine that YOUR screen is fine for YOU, but sorry, your arguments are pure ignorance! You do NOT have this issues, fine, then why judge about their seriousness??

TML1504 said:
Are you joking???
I worked a few years in an industrial R&D department and designed new products, but we NEVER would have dared to release a product with such massive quality fluctuations (problems) onto a mass market! Especially when the screen is THE major unique selling argument!
Fine that YOUR screen is fine for YOU, but sorry, your arguments are pure ignorance! You do NOT have this issues, fine, then why judge about their seriousness??
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Jeez, dont buy a samsung nexus then because that thing is a mess. Signal fluctuates so badly that its kinda funny. Fake screen size (the android buttons are actually on the bottom of the screen, reducing the screen size to the razr. The sound is a joke, the battery useless. Match that with no sd card slot no hdmi and the headphone jack at the bottom of the phone and youve got a 600$ flop.
I bought it for my 12 year old and even he doesnt want it. He wants me to bring it back and get a razr....
BTW, i have a bad s pen and the trademark samsung pink hue in the middle of my camera but asude from that, i love my note. When i saw it in youtube early 2011 i knew it would become my daily phone web surfer.
I wish for the same phone with S amoled PLUS, volume and sleep buttons not across from each ither, no pink in camera, mute button (like iphone) and the sane type of notification light as on the samsung nexus, micro hdmi out and quad core

try the free wallpaper called "no wallpaper" by simplicity apps. The blacks that you see with that wallpaper are amazing and it is free. i often use my phone at night when my child is sleeping, so lights are off and dark and see pitch black screen.
have 2 htc desires at home with amoled screens and the note screen is way better than that. have seen SGS and SGS2 screens and the note is definetely much better than that.
also try the wallpaper (free and paid versions) of KF Flames or KF Flames Donation by kittehface software. the blacks on that are also awesome with equally awesome flame effects. prefer the stock setting than variations possible with paid version but bought paid version just to support developer as liked free version.
the screen on even the sgs2 is no comparison to the one on the note. is your phone stock version or is having different roms affecting the display?

ICS should sort out most issues as its 32bit colour .... (or it could be 24 bit not 100 percent) ,,,
no wallpaper works a treat ... also lowering red to 3
still some apps which are lower density look like they have lines on .. but if you take screen shot they are still there when looking on pc so its the app not the phone
this phone rocks ... never ever going back to the half eaten apple ....

TML1504 said:
Are you joking???
I worked a few years in an industrial R&D department and designed new products, but we NEVER would have dared to release a product with such massive quality fluctuations (problems) onto a mass market! Especially when the screen is THE major unique selling argument!
Fine that YOUR screen is fine for YOU, but sorry, your arguments are pure ignorance! You do NOT have this issues, fine, then why judge about their seriousness??
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Where in my post am I "judging" about "their" seriousness?
If you find the screen their "major unique selling argument", why did you buy it before doing research on the screen?
If you are so worked up about the screen, why don't you get a replacement or trade it for a different phone?
Why do you point your frustration at someone who bought a phone he likes?
Because you bought a phone that you do not like?
Really, if you are so pissed off that you have to enter a forum discussion this angry. You should return the phone.
If you worked in a research and design department you must be a smart guy. You know getting angry won't get us anywhere.

markmessier8888 said:
Hi guys!
First off I wanna say I love my Note!! I have the Korea version as well.
Anyway, I still have my Galaxy S I which I ended the contract to get a Note.
I have to say as far as the "blacks" are concerned, the Galaxy S I wins hands down and also the text/color is sharper and even brighter than the Note.
I tried to take side by side photos but this was the best I could do to show the difference. Both phones are at max. brightness
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/img0005ib.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img0006pq.jpg/
The pics do not do justice. In person there is a real difference. Even the capacitive lights on the bottom are brighter and whiter.
Not a big deal though when my Gaalaxy S isnt being compared to the Note. Just bothers me a bit personally
Thanks!!
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The blacks on my old S2 is way deeper than the one in the Note.
Disappointing for sure.
But i'll take sharper screen over deeper blacks any day.

Well I was the proud owner of two notes this week, first one had a screen which used to tint between pink and green, so I got Amazon to send a replacement, which came today.
Alas this one isn't rendering the blacks properly and makes Black & White photos and videos look awful, pity as I'm a photographer and wanted to show client photos on the note (First note rendered Blacks great, just the white balance kept going off every odd second or so).
So two notes being returned, not taking the risk again.

Shingle said:
Well I was the proud owner of two notes this week, first one had a screen which used to tint between pink and green, so I got Amazon to send a replacement, which came today.
Alas this one isn't rendering the blacks properly and makes Black & White photos and videos look awful, pity as I'm a photographer and wanted to show client photos on the note (First note rendered Blacks great, just the white balance kept going off every odd second or so).
So two notes being returned, not taking the risk again.
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3rd times tge charm! Grab it while its the international version! The home button is brilliant.i dont at&ts stink on it.

cybermessiah said:
After installing Screen Adjuster free from the market ..I just upped the red a fraction [+3] to get rid of the slightest green tinge to my screen.
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I adjusted the red to +1 on my Note, and it's worked perfect
Much clearer now, thanks for that tip - I'd never heard of that app before.

Livewings said:
The blacks on my old S2 is way deeper than the one in the Note.
Disappointing for sure.
But i'll take sharper screen over deeper blacks any day.
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I'm not sure how the black levels are perceivably different from one OLED screen to another, whether it's AMOLED, SAMOLED, SAMOLED Plus, or HD SAMOLED.
I mean, think about it...
All OLED displays are actively lit, which means that each pixel is its own source of light as opposed to being, essentially, active colour filters for a backlight, like on an LCD.
Let's go ahead an use 24-bit colour for the following example:
Basically, each pixel is able to register 256 levels of intensity per colour, which is represented by 8 bits per colour. And since you have three colours (Red, Green, and Blue), that's 8 bits times 3, hence 24-bit.
In the case of an LCD, where each pixel is essentially a filter, blocking or allowing backlight through, a bit value of 0 for any particular colour would mean fully blocking light, and a bit value of 255 would mean fully allowing as much light through as possible.
However, since the backlight in an LCD is always on, regardless of the image, the front panel isn't always able to completely block all the light, even on a completely black image. That's why you're still able to see a little bit of bleed-through, even on the best LCD's.
With any kind of OLED display technology, this is not the case however. On an OLED display, each pixel is essentially a microscopic cluster of light emitting diodes, and since each pixel produces its own light, there is no backlight whatsoever. Thus, on an OLED display, a 255 bit value for a given colour means full intensity, and a bit value of 0 simply means "off."
Q.E.D. on any kind of OLED display, true black is truly black in the same sense that when a light bulb is turned off, it's completely off.
So, if you're perceiving a difference in the black levels between respective OLED devices, it could be simply that you're not viewing a truly black image. The image might contain pixel bit values close to 0, but not actually 0.

How to avoid screen aging?

I have my Galaxy Note for 10 weeks and after using it always with 100% brightness there are aging effects.
Specially at blue backgrounds, but also at white and gray I can see the home screen icons, the clock and some buttons from jelly defense (I played jelly defense 3 weeks daily 2 hours) shining darker. (you can see it on the photo)
Now my Galaxy Note is in service for screen changing.
But what can I do in the future to avoid this aging effects? 80% brightness, 90% brightness?
Samsung didn't know this problems (I'll not believe it).
Has anyone practical experience with this problem?

Typically Blue pixels age the fastest. So pick a warm/red background. Avoid 100% brightness. Use auto if possible. Avoid leave screen on for prolonged period. Avoid static text or icon on the screen for too long. Basically the same care you would do to a Plasma TV except even the plasma TV screen(around 80,000 to 100,000 hrs) lasts 10 times longer than the AMOLED screen (estimated around 10,000 to 20,000 hrs).

Looks like you've discovered amoleds dirty little secret. I avoid pixel burnout by using launchers that auto hide the notification bar as well as browsers that allow you to hide the navigation bar such as opera. Opera let's you browse in fill screen mode.
I often refrain from using apps that show static images for long periods of time. I try to use the browser for everything that can be done through the regular Web portal of a site.
There is no way of getting around static images in apps unless the Dev accounts for it. Some devs are aware of amoled burn out and have options to hide navigation bars.
Ultimately you have to be mindful of static images and make sure to either avoid them on your screen for prolonged periods of time or remember to rotate your screen.
This is why I'm not looking forward to virtual buttons on ICS. It will destroy amoled screens for sure. Hopefully Samsung will retain physical button(s)

10 weeks is a pretty short life time, My friend's Nexus One (1yr++) does not have the very slightest hint of screen aging why my the galaxy S2 that I used for just 2 months already had the AM/PM burned in.
Its normal for OLED screens to age but it should not be this fast, this is probably why apple is not looking into OLED screens as the quality and or lifespan could be problematic.

There are some manufacturing defects. Some screens are just fade faster than others. But in general, if you know how to take good care of your screen, it will last a long time. My old Galaxy S lasted over a year without any noticeable burn-in. My new Galaxy S2 has been 4 months w/o any problem.

foxbat121 said:
There are some manufacturing defects. Some screens are just fade faster than others. But in general, if you know how to take good care of your screen, it will last a long time. My old Galaxy S lasted over a year without any noticeable burn-in. My new Galaxy S2 has been 4 months w/o any problem.
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like the part where you say "noticeable"
no matter how much you try to take care of it. It will happen. Its already there. (Depends to which degree)
My advice apart those ones about hiding the element that are always present.
Do not look for a screen burn in. Or do not look at the ****ty quality of the AMOLED. When you would look on for example on grey/ brown background easiest to spot when going to the marker you would notice the differences between the different parts of the screen. Its not perfectly even from the time its build. The color is displayed in different shades usually presenting itself in "lines".
Had my Note for 1 hour and I noticed it. Brand new.
But then again I know what to look for (proud owner of Galaxy S) and where to look for it.
I bought this device for the resolution and power. Not for the screen build quality

When I say 'noticeable', I meant to use screen test patterns. Last time I did that with my Galaxy S, I don't see any burn in with the test patterns at all. But I agree one should not purposfully sort after the burn in. It will always be there. But I also don't need live in panic. The great contrast of the screen (or infinite black) outweights any shortcomings it has. Side by side with an iPhone 4/4s, I simply can't stand the foggy looking screen of the LCD on iPhones. Every iPhone owners I encounter liked my SAMOLE screen better.

PAGOT said:
But then again I know what to look for (proud owner of Galaxy S) and where to look for it.
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Hello fellow Galaxy S owner, This is the phone that brought up my standards and expectation for a SAMOLED device. I never saw any lines/uneven screen brightness and other garbage on my Galaxy S, even on greys. So this has brought up my expectation for a very high level which was crushed by the Galaxy Note's screen.
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I bought this device for the resolution and power. Not for the screen build quality
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Good for you, I bought the device as a while package with the top concern about screen build quality and as an HD playback device which it does not meet the purpose

Just a quick tip I picked up from someone else on this site (I forget now who it was, sorry). Change your clock from 12 to 24 hour every now and then (and visa versa), it shifts all the icons along a little

This is both an interesting and depressing post to find. I was so excited to order my International Note soon, but now I'm super paranoid about screen aging. I've read so much conflicting information about it online, I don't even know what to believe anymore.

Featherbeard said:
This is both an interesting and depressing post to find. I was so excited to order my International Note soon, but now I'm super paranoid about screen aging. I've read so much conflicting information about it online, I don't even know what to believe anymore.
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In terms of lifespan, LCDs still trump amoleds. That's a fact you'll have to live with.

No screen technology is perfect. SAMOLED for the moment has the problem that pixels decrease in brightness with ussage. So try to minimize the amount of light you get off the screen. That will also give you more battery life.
Try to use black backgrounds, and white text on black background if the application allows it. Of course if you spend 3 hours a day on a game with static icons and menus, that will wear some pixels more than others and you'll end up with something like the OP.
If you go looking for small variations of color, you're going to find them. But the superior brightness and contrast of a SAMOLED screen wins me over. Even when I know its effemeral and will degrade with time. But anyway, who keeps a phone more than 2 years?

Yeah, but I just found this information for the first time today, which is why I'm so depressed. I'm a digital artist so having a nice little on-the-go sketchpad has me super excited, but also worried because of the screen. Expansys tells me there's a 2 year warranty, but I don't know how that would work on an international phone if the screen goes bad...
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vcespon : Yeah, I normally keep the brightness on my Atrix down quite low anyways. The max brightness setting is *blindingly* bright. As for the 'who keeps a phone more then 2 years", I had my iphone 3gs for quite awhile thank you very much. That and if I spend 600-700 bucks on this baby I want it to last! If I get at the very least a year to a year and a half out of the screen I'll be somewhat happy, though closer to 2 would be better obviously. I wonder what the long-term outlook is for the life of these screens anyways. Does anyone know the mean-time-before-failure for them?

I would also try using black backgrounds or dark themes on as many apps as possible also. Like tapatalk or k9 for instance.
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Featherbeard said:
I wonder what the long-term outlook is for the life of these screens anyways. Does anyone know the mean-time-before-failure for them?
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I think there are some references how long the pixels "live". You should google. Even though Samsung said that they used new materials to build the displays.
I can tell you one thing you get used to the inferior screen in time.(Few rants not and then) So I wouldn't worry about that. If it really fails you. Meaning someone else will notice something wrong on the screen no just you. Claim warranty
Also to pointing out. There is shor-term memory effect as well. I think I already posted some bad quality pics here about that from my SGS. > http://goo.gl/URYzm I do not remember if this is a burn it or just the memory effect. I think its the memory bla bla. Second pic is best.

Thanks for the information! I think I remembered someone saying that the short-term memory effect gets better over time as well. I'm mostly worried about the screen quality as I plan on doing a lot of sketching on it, which kind of sucks because it'll most likely be using a light-colored background then. :\ I wonder if the AT&T version will have the exact same screens or if they'll be a slightly updated version. I guess not considering AMOLED is still AMOLED.
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I think there are some references how long the pixels "live". You should google. Even though Samsung said that they used new materials to build the displays.
I can tell you one thing you get used to the inferior screen in time.(Few rants not and then) So I wouldn't worry about that. If it really fails you. Meaning someone else will notice something wrong on the screen no just you. Claim warranty
Also to pointing out. There is shor-term memory effect as well. I think I already posted some bad quality pics here about that from my SGS. > http://goo.gl/URYzm I do not remember if this is a burn it or just the memory effect. I think its the memory bla bla. Second pic is best.
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Featherbeard said:
Thanks for the information! I think I remembered someone saying that the short-term memory effect gets better over time as well. I'm mostly worried about the screen quality as I plan on doing a lot of sketching on it, which kind of sucks because it'll most likely be using a light-colored background then. :\ I wonder if the AT&T version will have the exact same screens or if they'll be a slightly updated version. I guess not considering AMOLED is still AMOLED.
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You worry too much. And you do not even have that phone yet.
First of all not sure how its in your country, but here you can return in if you dont like it in a week I think.
Also if it becomes really apparent you really can go to a service center. I do not remember someone saying that samsung refused to change the screen.
Also I was ranting here already a year ago about the Galaxy S. I hate SAMOLED soo much since I got the SGS (18 months ago). I own an iPhone 4 and love retina and SLCD. And yet bought the Galaxy Note as well (despite the fact I knew how faulty it will be and how I will hate it )

Hey, I'm paranoid! I *really* get upset when I get a device that either isn't stable or has something wrong or defective about it. (Especially something that costs this much!) I'm in the US and am debating ordering through Expansys (USA), and I've heard they have I believe it was a 2 year warranty, but I have a feeling I'd have to send it to Expansys and have them take care of it if something went wrong. I can't see Samsung handling an international phone's repair in the US?
Aren't we strange with how we buy our gadgets? We know we will hate something and yet still buy it.

Featherbeard said:
Hey, I'm paranoid! I *really* get upset when I get a device that either isn't stable or has something wrong or defective about it. (Especially something that costs this much!) I'm in the US and am debating ordering through Expansys (USA), and I've heard they have I believe it was a 2 year warranty, but I have a feeling I'd have to send it to Expansys and have them take care of it if something went wrong. I can't see Samsung handling an international phone's repair in the US?
Aren't we strange with how we buy our gadgets? We know we will hate something and yet still buy it.
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All oled displays suffer from amoled burn out. Not much you can do.

vcespon said:
Try to use black backgrounds, and white text on black background if the application allows it.
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Here you can see my homescreen. There is already white text on black background.
But I can see the shadows of the big clock and all icons. The shadows are the white parts of the homescreen; for example the "S" of my S-Banking-App is very visible as a black shadow in all other apps with lighter background (Internet-Browser, ebook-Reader etc..).
And the homescreen is visible only for a few minutes, because when I want to use an app I directly start the app. I don't look so much time to the homescreen and my Galaxy Note goes after one minute in standby mode.
That means only 10 minutes/day homescreen with 100% brightness is enough to damage the screen visible after 10 weeks?
Okay, playing Jelly Defense 2 hours a day at 100% brightness is not so good, but the problem is not the time, because a few minutes looking to the homescreen has nearly the same aging effect.

G3 visible screen texture (LCD issue)?

I'm contemplating returning the G3 but need to ask everyone who owns the model if your units suffer the same issue or if this is just an LCD issue in general. I'm comparing on white backgrounds this noise/textured pattern reminiscent to a digitizer somewhat that literally for me defeats the purpose of having a QHD screen since it's the only thing I notice. When looking at my S4 AMOLED there is no such issue, and I just checked out the HTC One M8 with its Super LCD 3 in store and it doesn't seem to have the issue. The Xperia Z2 does also have this effect as well. Can anyone comment on this, and tell me how does it not distract you if it is there since for me it is a deal breaker!

I see it too- I just assumed it was my screen protector though...
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I just realized this. I don't think a replacement will help. Seems like a panel problem. Until LG acknowledges this and ships out a fresh batch, I think I'll hold off on a replacement.
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I've seen this on every G3 so far that I've looked at. It's not the digitizer because you'd see that when the screen was off.

My AT&T variant doesn't have any visible digitizer pattern

i dont see it on mine either

Its very hard to see. It can be seen on a white or light grey background. It almost looks like pixelation. Hard to explain.

Enddo said:
My AT&T variant doesn't have any visible digitizer pattern
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It's not a digitizer pattern, definitely has to do with the lcd. Just reminded me of a weak digitizer annoyance. You have to look for it though but once you notice it you'll never unsee it

ladelfm said:
It's not a digitizer pattern, definitely has to do with the lcd. Just reminded me of a weak digitizer annoyance. You have to look for it though but once you notice it you'll never unsee it
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Seems like a vague statement. With the incredibly powerful cameras and even microscopes that can be done to really see these screens in detail, where is a picture of this 'visible screen texture'?
I can put the display all the way up against my face and can not see any texture you speak of. Please help to explain or at least show what you're talking about

ladelfm said:
The Xperia Z2 does also have this effect as well. Can anyone comment on this, and tell me how does it not distract you if it is there since for me it is a deal breaker!
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OK do you have your G3 rooted? Probably you've got G3 with JDI panel, why don't you try to find it out and vote in that thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/g3-display-manufacturer-t2824310 ? Sony has also such patterns because they also use their own JDI panels.

I think that someone here is "looking for hair in the egg"!

I have this problem as well. I actually thought it was a real problem and went to get a replacement about 4 times. After the fourth one, I gave up after noticing that a lot of the G3s have it. I looked at a lot of display models (best buy and att stores) and looked at a lot of G2s as well. At first I was really annoyed by it, but now I've gotten used to it

I can see it on mine in certain conditions, but most of the time it's not visible. Same with any other device I've had, really.

I think I see what you're talking about, I just don't know how to explain it. I can only see it on a bright white area, and I'm guessing it's a result with the panel and how high the resolution is. I don't mind seeing it though... I don't see it as a defect since others are reporting it. MUCH less of an issue (if one at all) compared to a yellow screen area or something. Comparing this display to 1080s which never did this isn't fair. The technology is too new and doesn't have anything to compare to.
Not everyone can be expected to see it or notice it, especially since near sightedness is going to vary amongst people. Uncorrected, I can see extreme detail on objects within a 1-2 feet, but I can't see any details past 20 (signs are unreadable, etc). When I am using corrected vision though, my near vision gets slightly worse and the effect is less pronounced.
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Yep, I noticed this as well. However, it is mostly only visible when the screens shows only a single color. E.g., it's really visible if you use an app like Dead Pixel Test. Under normal conditions, I've only seen it a few times, which is fine with me. The real problem still is the oversharpening.

I have seen maybe about 30 different G3s now, all of them have it but with varying levels of visibility.

It's one of those issuses there is probobly no point worrying about. All G3's probobly have it, nothing we can do about it (at the minute). If it bothers certain people that much, get a different phone

leomd333 said:
It's one of those issuses there is probobly no point worrying about. All G3's probobly have it, nothing we can do about it (at the minute). If it bothers certain people that much, get a different phone
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Done and done! Switched to the M8 and the super LCD screen is fantastic, Crystal clear. Love the G3 and I'll miss it but once I noticed that issue it was basically game over for me.
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I agree with others that it's only apparent in unique moments, typically where black text is on a light background. After a bit of thought, I've decided that certain apps are not able to display the high resolution that the G3 can produce...so dithering artifacting occurs.

Its not an issue. I have seen it on every single lg g3 and its only visible on high brightness with a white background. And it seems like some models show it more than others, but most are acceptable.

Mediocre - Subpar screen quality

My 32/3 Mi Max just arrived today, not too happy with the screen. It seemed so dull, some leaks on the edge. No competition between AMOLED screen and this. But the 7' LCD of 1920x1200 mediapad X2 is still a height better than this. Heck, even redmi note 2 is better. A little disappointed, glad I didn't go all out with 128/4 version.

Cryonics said:
My 32/3 Mi Max just arrived today, not too happy with the screen. It seemed so dull, some leaks on the edge. No competition between AMOLED screen and this. But the 7' LCD of 1920x1200 mediapad X2 is still a height better than this. Heck, even redmi note 2 is better. A little disappointed, glad I didn't go all out with 128/4 version.
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Mine isn't that bad. Download Color Changer Pro from the Play Store. You can increase the saturation and colors in it. Mine almost looks as good as an AMOLED now minus the blacks.

Cryonics said:
My 32/3 Mi Max just arrived today, not too happy with the screen. It seemed so dull, some leaks on the edge. No competition between AMOLED screen and this. But the 7' LCD of 1920x1200 mediapad X2 is still a height better than this. Heck, even redmi note 2 is better. A little disappointed, glad I didn't go all out with 128/4 version.
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The screen protector you have reduces screen quality especially black levels. 100% the cause. Most of the full cover glass for 2.5d screens does not actually adhere to the screen reducing contrast.
The screen quality is v.good although it uses software contrast boosting to make the colors nice, which can crush some details in colors.
Take off the screen prortector and show the same photo, you will see the big difference.
Btw what case do you have?

https://imgur.com/gallery/csM1E
I've made some comparison photo from some of my available devices on hand. It's horrible, They're definitely cutting corners on the screen. Even my $60 Alcatel phone looks better. My Mi Pad, and Redmi Note 2 have the same "washed out tinting" issues, but this is definitely worse than that.
Just for a note:
I took of the screen protector

Cryonics said:
https://imgur.com/gallery/csM1E
I've made some comparison photo from some of my available devices on hand. It's horrible, They're definitely cutting corners on the screen. Even my $60 Alcatel phone looks better. My Mi Pad, and Redmi Note 2 have the same "washed out tinting" issues, but this is definitely worse than that.
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Did you read what I said about your screen protector.
The screen is IPS, there will always be changes in brightness when viewing off axis. It's called IPS glow. Depending on the screen, you will see it more from different angles. Mi Max might look better at a different angle than the other phones.
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Cryonics said:
https://imgur.com/gallery/csM1E
I've made some comparison photo from some of my available devices on hand. It's horrible, They're definitely cutting corners on the screen. Even my $60 Alcatel phone looks better. My Mi Pad, and Redmi Note 2 have the same "washed out tinting" issues, but this is definitely worse than that.
Just for a note:
I took of the screen protector
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Now you can see the contrast is increased and black levels are better.
This is why I hate phones with 2.5d screens. You can get these full cover protectors which reduce quality or normal glass protectors which don't cover the screen fully. There is also tpu screen protectors which will cover fully without reducing quality, but they feel a bit rubbery and are hard to apply.

spix123 said:
Did you read what I said about your screen protector.
The screen is IPS, there will always be changes in brightness when viewing off axis. It's called IPS glow. Depending on the screen, you will see it more from different angles. Mi Max might look better at a different angle than the other phones.
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I forgot to put the note on the bottom, I took off the screen protector.
All LCDs have that bleeds, glows or whatever you want to call it, I'm well aware of that. But, If you need to put your phone in an angle to get correct color reproduction, i think it defeats the purpose of "IPS" display in the first place.

Cryonics said:
I forgot to put the note on the bottom, I took off the screen protector.
All LCDs have that bleeds, glows or whatever you want to call it, I'm well aware of that. But, If you need to put your phone in an angle to get correct color reproduction, i think it defeats the purpose of "IPS" display in the first place.
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IPS screens don't really have a purpose, it's just a screen type. Every type of screen has its flaw.
Amoled has image retention and must use pwm to reduce brightness. Some people notice the flicker/eye strain from it.
TN panel has inverted colors instead of ips glow. IPS still has better viewing angles and IPS glow is only noticeable at certain angles.

I have to agree that the full screen coloured screen protector is POS, just realised that it doesn't have any glue in the middle, making some gap between the screen and the protector. Gonna order some better one.
Besides the screen, it's a solid good phone I reckon. I get more than what I bargained for because it's really is an inexpensive phone.. too pampered by AMOLED I guess.

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I have to agree that the full screen coloured screen protector is POS, just realised that it doesn't have any glue in the middle, making some gap between the screen and the protector. Gonna order some better one.
Besides the screen, it's a solid good phone I reckon. I get more than what I bargained for because it's really is an inexpensive phone.. too pampered by AMOLED I guess.
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The battery life is amazing. I recently got the 3/32, currently 8.5 hours SOT and 40% battery left.
Hows the miui 8 rom? I've left mine on miui 7 for now as I've read some bad things about it on the miui forum.
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I have to agree that the full screen coloured screen protector is POS, just realised that it doesn't have any glue in the middle, making some gap between the screen and the protector. Gonna order some better one.
Besides the screen, it's a solid good phone I reckon. I get more than what I bargained for because it's really is an inexpensive phone.. too pampered by AMOLED I guess.
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There is some full coverage protectors with glue in the middle, at least for other phones. Not sure if there is one for mi max but if there is, they are very rare.

It's fresh out of the box. Haven't really tried anything yet, but I'm on 8.0.1.0 apparently. I'm not sure about the battery life.. I'm more than happy to get 6.5hrs sot. My daily driver is iPhone SE, hands down its a beast of a phone, 9 hours on time give or take.
I just ordered Nillkin glass protector for my mi max, kind of expensive, but can't go wrong with that one. Please share with me if you found any good full screen glass protector.

The big draw of the Mi Max screen is the size, not the color accuracy or black levels or brightness. It's an average screen, not mediocre like a lot of cheap Chinese Android junk but not as good as an LCD on a flagship device. AMOLED is on a different planet because of the crazy saturation and inky blacks. I've had a few phones with AMOLED and although they're great for viewing photos and videos, they're not good for web surfing or working with documents because white draws more power. I didn't have any issues with burn in though.

1. The photo attached in the first post doesn't actually have the mi max in it. I suggest you remove it.
2. Second, the comparison album you made on imgur has software buttons and doesn't actually show that it's a Mi Max, while the separately attached photo in that same post has the xiaomi rom running. The separately attached photo clearly shows its the Mi Max and the display looks great to me with no issues.
My personal experience is also that the screen is great and I'm not sure where you're coming from...

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1. The photo attached in the first post doesn't actually have the mi max in it. I suggest you remove it.
2. Second, the comparison album you made on imgur has software buttons and doesn't actually show that it's a Mi Max, while the separately attached photo in that same post has the xiaomi rom running. The separately attached photo clearly shows its the Mi Max and the display looks great to me with no issues.
My personal experience is also that the screen is great and I'm not sure where you're coming from...
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In the first post, Mi Max is the middle phone. The user has installed a full coverage black glass screen protector which reduces the contrast as there is an airgap between it and the display.

I thought long and hard about wading into this thread, but after using the phone for a week I figured why the chuff not.
So, yeah, after 7 days use I've got to say I think the screen is pretty great! I haven't seen any hint blue tint I've read about in a few reviews, although, my device is much newer than the first batches and preproduction models, so that could explain it.
It's not as punchy as an AMOLED, but AMOLED colours are often way inaccurate. Which brings me to my next point, I find the screen pretty spot on in terms of colour accuracy (visually speaking at least, I've got no idea as to the reproduction of the panel on a spec level). It's definitely an improvement over my Meizu M1 Metal.
For the money, it's hard to fault this device. It's by no means perfect, but it's 1/5 the cost of a Samsung Galaxy Whatever.

MikusP said:
I thought long and hard about wading into this thread, but after using the phone for a week I figured why the chuff not.
So, yeah, after 7 days use I've got to say I think the screen is pretty great! I haven't seen any hint blue tint I've read about in a few reviews, although, my device is much newer than the first batches and preproduction models, so that could explain it.
It's not as punchy as an AMOLED, but AMOLED colours are often way inaccurate. Which brings me to my next point, I find the screen pretty spot on in terms of colour accuracy (visually speaking at least, I've got no idea as to the reproduction of the panel on a spec level). It's definitely an improvement over my Meizu M1 Metal.
For the money, it's hard to fault this device. It's by no means perfect, but it's 1/5 the cost of a Samsung Galaxy Whatever.
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It is a bit on the blue side but just a bit & you correct it with enabling reading mode & moving slider to the beginning position.
Did my own view test today by using MX player & putting it in to the 32 bit RGB display colour format and then I played a 10 bit Hevc movie. Well the display is quite good but nothing mind blowing. Luminance is an a down side required for something like HDR but it can pass presumably if you use it in controlled darker environment. Actually with brightness set to 11 out of 15 possible (which translate into 73.3%) its good enough but if you go over that contrast and with it quality begins to go down drastically, 12 (80%) is top & even that I would call a compromise. Don't be missed by this for a mobile phone LED display this one is perfectly fine, not a stellar one nor the best one out there but perfectly fine. The little more brighter displays won't make much of the difference between 450 & 550 nits their is little to non difference you will be able to see in this particular case regarding LCD's, next category should be a 700~1000 nits but mobile phones & only couple of them are stepping in lower margins of that category.
At the end I just can't not to wonder if the guy who did a calibration of the display had a little problem with its eye sight because you see as much a display is on a cold (blue) side & that is minimal a tad or two the photos (with main camera) are proportionally on the opposite warm (yellow) side.
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Truth About Oneplus 8 Pro Display!

I am not Going to waste your time!
Read it Carefully: Truth is Oneplus 8 Pro Display issue is pretty solid. And there is literally nothing they can do to fix that issue via software as that is the Hardware problem.
For details see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dfF6JehZ0s
I have also attached two screenshot of that video at the attachment section.
1. First Screenshot is from The Early Unit
2. Second Screenshot is from The Replacement Unit
NB: Oneplus is trying to hide the display issue via software update by reducing the capability of dimming the brightness at low level I mean you can't lower the brightness like other phones or like the previouds unit of OP8 Pro where you could previously see those issue clearly. See that video by SuperSaf for better understanding. That's why people who got the device recently are not complaining about that but yet you can see those issue with replacement unit. And after zooming the video and photo you can clearly see a horizontal wide line through punch hole Camera. It is hardware issue literally as they could not master the Laser cut tech like Samsung. So, spend your money wisely!

So, now what

Pretty sure it's a Samsung display. Mine is flawless. Have had it since launch day. Maybe I got lucky?

What display issue? This is the best screen on a smartphone I've had.

Yeh, so far my screen is brilliant looking!

I hope most people with an effected screen makes a fuss to OnePlus so it hurts them in their pockets. I hate when the consumer takes the hit when OnePlus should be addressing the problem and being honest. I am lucky I feel in my unit but if OnePlus doesn't act transparent, this will be my first and last product I purchased.

My first unit had this problem too. I really loved the phone but couldn't stand the tint so I got a replacement unit. My replacement unit at first had the same problem on greys, but I wasn't interested in shipping it back because I had to import my phone to Australia (no official Oneplus store). So I decided to get rid of the grey in the system ui by using a pitch black substratum theme, and I never saw the problem again, even on grey. I even went looking for it the other day and still couldn't see anything worse than what I see on my galaxy tab s6 also with an amoled display. Either recent updates fixed the issue, or I just got charmed by the otherwise gorgeous display. I am not too salty about it at all personally.

My screen is great, no issues.

No issues on mine.
In fact not had any of the issues ever mentioned about the 1+8pro

Apologies to the OP, but I have to join the chorus here. I got my 8 Pro on the second, "pre-launch", and one of the first things I did upon receiving it was inspect the screen for the noted problems. Couldn't find one flaw and the display itself is simply beautiful. Best Android on the market, at the moment, imo.

I have to agree with the ones with a seemingly perfect display.
Got mine on launch and it's the best android phone I've ever owned.

I had mine pre-ordered and been using since day one. Not a single problem with the screen. In fact it's the best one I have ever had on a phone. Looks amazing. No issues here.

Got mine at launch. Tried all the tests I read here and had no problems. Beautiful display. The people that have problems are always the loudest. That doesn't mean it's everyone or even particularly widespread
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Anyone having the black crush issue? I can see it when watching movies. Dark areas tend to go all black losing the detail. I can see more detail on my 3yr old samsung s8. Plus front cam looks softer than my s8 too. Any thoughts?

Enchiridion20 said:
Anyone having the black crush issue? I can see it when watching movies. Dark areas tend to go all black losing the detail. I can see more detail on my 3yr old samsung s8. Plus front cam looks softer than my s8 too. Any thoughts?
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Yes and the crush is worse on the latest update 10.5.9.
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Do you think it's a software issue? I surely envy those guys who got a perfect panel.

Enchiridion20 said:
Do you think it's a software issue? I surely envy those guys who got a perfect panel.
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I think it's HW. I don't think there is a perfect panel either, I think people just aren't looking for it or testing for it.
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Batfink33 said:
I think it's HW. I don't think there is a perfect panel either, I think people just aren't looking for it or testing for it.
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Exactly this. People saying that their panel is perfect is because they don't use dark themes with grey backgrounds

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Exactly this. People saying that their panel is perfect is because they don't use dark themes with grey backgrounds
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Why is it hard to believe people actually have a great screen?
I have had my 8pro since release day and haven't noticed any issues, I use dark mode on everything, I have wallpapers of all colours including greys, now, if you tell me I haven't look hard enough, then that's your problem. I absolutely love my phone and the screen. Best I've ever owned.
The phone is not without faults, but comments like yours assume that everyone has experienced the same things as you... Could it be the light receptors in your eyes are faulty? Cos my 20/20 vision has yet to see any green tint, and crushed blacks on my handset.

yodasmaster said:
Why is it hard to believe people actually have a great screen?
I have had my 8pro since release day and haven't noticed any issues, I use dark mode on everything, I have wallpapers of all colours including greys, now, if you tell me I haven't look hard enough, then that's your problem. I absolutely love my phone and the screen. Best I've ever owned.
The phone is not without faults, but comments like yours assume that everyone has experienced the same things as you... Could it be the light receptors in your eyes are faulty? Cos my 20/20 vision has yet to see any green tint, and crushed blacks on my handset.
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How can OP release FW updates that affect every phone to try and fix the display, but your phone is fine? They even admitted it to Android Police. There's literally commits in the source altering the gamma levels!
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