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How to check what screen you have

Hey everybody. My 32GB Prime arrived yesterday and I'm a little underwhelmed by the screen quality. Compared to my little Jiayu G4S the screen doesn't look great, especially white. Thanks to lolo9393 I was able to read through the thread below and on about the second page there is info about how to discover who made your screen. Even though Xiaomi claimed the screen would be made by Sharp, it looks as though this is not the case for some of us. To test which version you have, open the dialer and enter *#*#6484#*#*. This will open a test app. Tap 'software version' then scroll down to where it says 'LCM'. It would appear mine is made by Tianma which explains a lot.
For those of you who haven't bought your phone yet, I would recommend asking your reseller to test your device first and see which LCD had been used. It sounds like AUO make a better looking panel (edit - or not?)
Here's how my Tianma screened Prime looks next to an Oppo Find 7a. Both are set to Max brightness. The Note 2 display is set to 'cool' in settings which is as blue as it gets. Any of the other settings make it look more yellow. The Oppo is on the left. To the naked eye the Oppo doesn't have the pink tint that you see in the photo.
*update* I thought I'd take another photo of my screen after two weeks and three different ROMs. Now I'm using the most recent multi language development ROM from 11th September. Same scenario as before, both screens are set to maz brightness, Opposed find 7a on the left. The XRN2 is set to 'cool' in settings and reading mode is off. Looks a little bit whiter than before to my eyes, but perhaps that's just wishful thinking. Either way my cheapo Jiayu G4S looks better than both. Shame the GPS doesn't work on the Jiayu!
http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/225576-xiaomi-redmi-note-2-mt6795/

Same here, me and a friend checked it, and both we have the Tianma screen. Both phones are 16GB version.

unrealmitch said:
Same here, me and a friend checked it, and both we have the Tianma screen. Both phones are 16GB version.
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That's annoying. On the one hand, I guess it's common for manufacturers to use parts from different suppliers, but the phone has to only just been launched and Xiaomi made a point of bragging about using a Sharp screen. I think it's dishonest. I don't think I can return the phone to the reseller because it's not really their fault. My Jiayu G4S was just as cheap and has a much nicer screen.

Uhh. Does it really look that bad? I have ordered a Redmi Note 2. Hope that its screen is manufactured by Sharp.

For what I paid for this device, I think the Tianma screen (yes, I checked) on my device is fine. I think of this as an intermediary device as I dropped my old phone and needed one ASAP and in August this was the best thing on the market, for me it is a great intro to Xiaomi and I will wait to see what the Mi5 reviews are like when it is launched.

Do you have the TDD, FDD or GSM version?
Thank you!

Does anyone found a SHARP one, or they are all Tianma???

TziMmysGr said:
Does anyone found a SHARP one, or they are all Tianma???
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Yeah, I'm wondering about the same thing. Which versions have Tianma screen - all 16GB (not Prime) versions, or just the GSM version? Or is it completely random?
In a Russian video review a guy said that he had yellow tint with the GSM version, and that the display is better on LTE version (I don't remember which one was it though).

droidaem said:
Yeah, I'm wondering about the same thing. Which versions have Tianma screen - all 16GB (not Prime) versions, or just the GSM version? Or is it completely random?
In a Russian video review a guy said that he had yellow tint with the GSM version, and that the display is better on LTE version (I don't remember which one was it though).
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I have the 32GB Prime LTE version, and it has the Tianma screen. It's not awful, and considering the SoC I guess it's where they've saved money. If I hadn't just owned two Chinese cheap phones with better screens, I wouldn't have been any the wiser.
If I had a way to contact Xiaomi directly I would ask them to replace the phone, purely on principle.
One benefit of this screen is that it is softer on the eyes at night if you're reading in bed.
I might not be able to do it for a day or so, but when I get a chance I will try to take a photo of the difference between devices to show you.
Again, it's not terrible by any means, it just didn't meet my expectations.

Okay, thank you for your reply.
However, in this screenshot it looks like the other way around.
http://attach.bbs.miui.com/forum/201509/08/213030ox1sde17j41jcbd4.jpg.thumb.jpg
Tianma screen is blueish, but definitely looks better than AUO. Or could it be just about the Color Temperature setting in MIUI?

To my eyes the 'standard' setting looks creamy/yellow and the the 'warm' setting looks very pink/yellow. I set it to 'cool' immediately and it looks kind of OK, but it lacks 'pop'. I you were to put it next to a 2013 Nexus 7 it wouldn't look very good at all. Maybe tomorrow evening I'll try to mirror my screen to the TV and take a photo of the difference.
Viewing angles are good by the way. There is some 'crush' in videos and on the home screen wallpaper for me. I think it really will depend in what you're used to as to whether you like it or not.

This's the "old" news in China's forum, NONE of the screen is provided by SHARP
All the provider are from Tianma(85%)/AUO(15%) the number is the chance you will get.
There's also the rumor in China that Xiaomi never claimed they will use SHARP/AUO in screen, but actually, some of the people found that there's some evidences shows there's a slogan on their official site before selling.
And some of the people said Xiaomi break the rule in China's market with its super low price to force all the mobile manufacturer to lower their price. So some of the manufacturer edit the picture and spread the rumor that Xiaomi cheated consumers.
This is still a mystery because Xiaomi never apologize to this event but make good a loss
to the consumers a 5000 mAh power bank if you buying from their official recognized online shop, Tmall.com and JD.com.
I think Redmi Note 2 is released in the short time that the engineer in Xiaomi did't even tune it completely. The first or second wave who get the phone complaining the tint is too yellow compare to others. But if you are worry about the yellow tint, you can OTA to the latest stable version of MIUI or by FlashTool.
Don't forget MediaTek have the new technology, MiraVision™ which can easily tune the tint of screen color. By the latest stable ROM(6.7.5.0 Stable), Xiaomi also fix the unresponsive touchpannel by upgrading the driver of CTP from T2.0 to T2.3.
In short, you'll never get any screen from Sharp but mostly from Tianma and likely from AUO.

I have both LG G4 and N2 16gb, the Tianma screen isn't all that bad, although I see some slight bleeding that the bottom, but I can live with it, it is my seconardy/gaming phone afterall

I just got the phone. It has Tianma screen, but it looks good.

I'm pleased you like it I guess it just depends what screen each of us is used to. Sadly I've just come from a very 'white' looking screen (not sure if that makes sense).
I also just tweaked things manually using the Miravision app to get it more to my liking.

The screen on my phone looks very good, don't care who is the manufacturer of it, but i just checked and it is Thianma. I even compared it to calibrated with custom kernel Nexus 6, and still looked good.

dazed1 said:
The screen on my phone looks very good, don't care who is the manufacturer of it, but i just checked and it is Thianma. I even compared it to calibrated with custom kernel Nexus 6, and still looked good.
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That's interesting. I wonder if some are better than others. If not I must have really weird eyes, although the difference with the other phones in my household is very pronounced.

I checked and also got a tianma screen. It doesn't look too bad. I compared it to the xperia z2 (which has a pretty average screen though I think) and it wasn't really any worse. Maybe very slightly more faded at max brightness.
I'm more concerned about how much battery this thing uses. I've only had the phone for a few days but it hasn't seemed that great. Although the automatic brightness sometimes feels erratic and made the screen too bright.
Also I think I got some scratch already on mine. It's not visible if I wipe the screen clean so just need to do that and apply the screen protector that came with the phone. But I suppose no gorilla glass here!

dodke said:
I checked and also got a tianma screen. It doesn't look too bad. I compared it to the xperia z2 (which has a pretty average screen though I think) and it wasn't really any worse. Maybe very slightly more faded at max brightness.
I'm more concerned about how much battery this thing uses. I've only had the phone for a few days but it hasn't seemed that great. Although the automatic brightness sometimes feels erratic and made the screen too bright.
Also I think I got some scratch already on mine. It's not visible if I wipe the screen clean so just need to do that and apply the screen protector that came with the phone. But I suppose no gorilla glass here!
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Sorry to hear you have a scratch already I better hurry up and buy a screen protector for it. So far I only have a gel case to cover the back.
I'm not getting great battery life either, but I've only had a few battery cycles so far. Perhaps it will improve. My little Jiayu G4S also had a very good battery life which may mean my expectations are set quite high.
I'm not sure, but I think my screen may actually be getting whiter over time. Perhaps I'm just getting used to it!

my screen is scratched on day 2 as well in my pants too. Definitely not Gorilla glass.

Sony Xperia Z5 vs Samsung Note 4

Hey guys,
I am thinking of buying one of this mobiles. They both seems very good, got 3GB of RAM, big display (i want some bigger phone), but.... I am wondering which one have better display and which one got better battery. This is probably the most important for me.
If someone have more experience and use some of this i would appreciate your thinking.
Thanks in advance.

Note 4
Luckily for you, I've owned both phones since the month each got released.
Note 4:
Pros- bigger battery ( I've noticed slightly longer battery life)
- outstanding screen
- Pen
- Removable battery
- dont need to turn off phone to remove micro sd
- Ir blaster
- plethora of cases/accessories
Cons:
- Phone sometimes feels cumbersome to use
- Touchwiz sucks
Xperia z5
Pros:
- Sexy as hell
- Waterproof
- Normal screen size
- Camera button
Cons:
- Back gets warm pretty quick
- Doesn't have any of the pros listed for note 4
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Get the note. Every time I use my note 4 for something I notice how much crisper the screen is, and I hate not having that on the Xperia. Samsung did a really good job packing a ton of features in the note 4 and the screen will keep it future-proof longer than the Xperia. I actually prefer the note 4 to note 5. ( buy the unlocked version and install note 5 rom on it, you'll get the note 4's removable back + new software)

I also owned both and I should say Z5 screen is way superior to note 4.at least mine.I still have note 4 and can answer questions if you have any.
PS:note is easier to root and flash CM if you care.I had to return my Z5 because of lack of root for locked BL.I'm back to my Z2 and N4 is collecting dust.lol.

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Man,
Thanks a lot for this brief.
I always think that Sony have better display, probably because I am a big fan of Sony. But now when I see that Note wins bots display and battery I will for sure go for Note 4.
Just one more thing, because i am not that kind good with android and software. When you installed new custom rom to Note 4 you had no bugs or something like that? I found on forums that it can be very bad doing this so i need your opinion?
Thanks in advance!

Lol, comparing an OLED display vs any LCD display and pretending that LCDS can be on par or better than OLED displays is so dillusional its actually funny!
I would still choose Z5 but for different reasons: 1 performance, note 4 has a weaker cpu and gpu, z5 camera is more sophisticated than note 4 camera except z5 camera has no OIS and lacks several manual functions, but me and many others can live with that, Z5 has real radio, Z5 has water proof support and z5 has dedicated camera button.

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So many different opinions.
@ TheWarKeeper
Can you please tell me your experience with battery. I need it for my job and i am using a lot of calls, email-s, social networks.... Can it last at least one day.

TheWarKeeper said:
Lol, comparing an OLED display vs any LCD display and pretending that LCDS can be on par or better than OLED displays is so dillusional its actually funny!
I would still choose Z5 but for different reasons: 1 performance, note 4 has a weaker cpu and gpu, z5 camera is more sophisticated than note 4 camera except z5 camera has no OIS and lacks several manual functions, but me and many others can live with that, Z5 has real radio, Z5 has water proof support and z5 has dedicated camera button.
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It's not black and white. LCDs can and tend to be able to display proper white (sometimes you need to tweak it via white balance settings but YOU can have it unlike OLEDs) while OLEDs tend to have difficulty with it and never truly achieves proper whites and you have to calibrate with time due to OLEDs organic nature. But in contrary OLEDs displays deep blacks due to switching of the organic pixel (LCDs cant switch of becouse the R G B channels are just filters on top of the backlight). White is more important though as that is what is used most in apps, themes and so on. And due to the OLED being organic the blue, red and green pixel component each have a life length and blue has less than the other 2 which means having bright/white things displayed on your OLED would shorten the blue components life length faster resulting in uneven colors on the screen, "burn-ins" and it just gets worse with time.
LCDs dont have this problem becouse the only thing you lose with time is the brightness due to the backlight getting worn and so you can compensate by increasing brightness intensity. And Sony TFT and IPS LCD for their Z1+ lineup comes with Triluminos which adds an extra component to help the pixels and extends the color range to 85% of Adobe RGB 1998 ICC color profile which is far more than a regular LCD can do giving rich and accurate colors that without problems rivals OLEDs while still being proper and true to life without typical OLED oversaturation. Triluminos also helps with the black but cant rival OLEDs 'pixel switching off' blacks.
Now latest OLEDs from Samsung does better than older but they still tend to oversaturate since they also can display beyond standard sRGB color scheme that is the standard but cant really accomodate to it like an LCD with Triluminos can due to its organic nature and how it works.
You want precision that holds for years and proper white you go with Z5 but if you want deep blacks, "popping" colors and less precision you go with OLED. OLEDs also have better response time but that would mostly only be of importance if you play games at fast framerates.

In my opinion, you should also consider the UI of Samsung and Sony because TouchWiz (Samsung UI) is notorious for lagging as months passed by and when multitasking, while Sony UI is always smooth and rarely lags. :good:

I had a Note 4 before getting a Z5P. Stock Samsung is garbage. You have to look into AOSP/CM for the Note 4 and it may not be 100% stable. The Note 4's camera is definitely though. Z5 camera is only good on paper but in real world situation Note 4 wins easily. Z5 has way too many pixels can't produce a good image unless the source is extremely well lit.

EQ2000 said:
It's not black and white. LCDs can and tend to be able to display proper white (sometimes you need to tweak it via white balance settings but YOU can have it unlike OLEDs) while OLEDs tend to have difficulty with it and never truly achieves proper whites and you have to calibrate with time due to OLEDs organic nature. But in contrary OLEDs displays deep blacks due to switching of the organic pixel (LCDs cant switch of becouse the R G B channels are just filters on top of the backlight). White is more important though as that is what is used most in apps, themes and so on. And due to the OLED being organic the blue, red and green pixel component each have a life length and blue has less than the other 2 which means having bright/white things displayed on your OLED would shorten the blue components life length faster resulting in uneven colors on the screen, "burn-ins" and it just gets worse with time.
LCDs dont have this problem becouse the only thing you lose with time is the brightness due to the backlight getting worn and so you can compensate by increasing brightness intensity. And Sony TFT and IPS LCD for their Z1+ lineup comes with Triluminos which adds an extra component to help the pixels and extends the color range to 85% of Adobe RGB 1998 ICC color profile which is far more than a regular LCD can do giving rich and accurate colors that without problems rivals OLEDs while still being proper and true to life without typical OLED oversaturation. Triluminos also helps with the black but cant rival OLEDs 'pixel switching off' blacks.
Now latest OLEDs from Samsung does better than older but they still tend to oversaturate since they also can display beyond standard sRGB color scheme that is the standard but cant really accomodate to it like an LCD with Triluminos can due to its organic nature and how it works.
You want precision that holds for years and proper white you go with Z5 but if you want deep blacks, "popping" colors and less precision you go with OLED. OLEDs also have better response time but that would mostly only be of importance if you play games at fast framerates.
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The problems with white balance for oled displays are long gone, those issues were only present in the first few oled screens ever produced because back then the organic material for red and green were degrading at a different level than the blue.
My Galaxy S6 has the purest white any LCD dreams of and also a much bigger color gamut, also it has a fraction of the pixel response time of any gaming tft lcd out there producing less ghosting and blurring when in motion, on top of the pure blacks as you acknowledged also.
As for the over saturation, the oversaturation comes by default to boast the contrast capabilities of the oled screens, normally found in test units, my galaxy s6 for example came out of the box with such a toned down saturation that nobody would even dare to call it an OLED, but anytime i want to enable eye popping colours i just change the color scheme from the display settings itself.
Theres no reason to vote for a LCD anymore, except if you are concered about buying a monitor/tv thats always ON and not bothered with image quality, then LCD is best as it doesnt suffer from burn in issues, or color degradation, but frankly thats just about it.
EDIT: i also forgot to mention that the best LCD screen ive ever come across in any phone was the Xperia Z1 Compact screen, perfect color reproduction at everything, which put Xperia Z2, Xperia Z3 (both normal and compact) and Xperia Z5(Again, both normal and compact) screens to shame.
So for me the Xperia Z5 screens are dissapointing and white balance by default is over the top, too much RED, to calibrate it properly youll loose other screen abilities.
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TedNall said:
So many different opinions.
@ TheWarKeeper
Can you please tell me your experience with battery. I need it for my job and i am using a lot of calls, email-s, social networks.... Can it last at least one day.
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The phone should last a day as long as you dont push it and dont enable brightness to maximum all the time.
If it doesnt well, you can always get a pocket charger as the competition of z5 will last only a slightly more time which is negligible.
I would choose the Xperia Z5 over the note 4 anyday though, its a great phone and it wont dissapoint any average user.
Xperia Z5 only dissapoints enthusiasts like myself but not because of its quality, quality is great, but because of DRM and locked features which makes no sense beying locked.

What are you guys talking about? Note 4 has one of the best screens on the market. Near perfect white balance (6562K) and 99% Adobe RGB. Just use Photo Mode. Adaptive Display mode is over saturated but optional.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
Also color burn is an old issue from Galaxy Nexus devices and earlier. Samsung displays have burn-in protection.
Moving from Note 4 to Z5P was definitely a downgrade in color accuracy and white balance, but upgrade in pixels. I honestly thought I would care more, but I actually don't. I rather have no screen door effect in VR and higher resolution. Now if Samsung released a 4K AMOLED screen...

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The problems with white balance for oled displays are long gone, those issues were only present in the first few oled screens ever produced because back then the organic material for red and green were degrading at a different level than the blue.
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They still suffer from uneven colors and shades over the display.
My Galaxy S6 has the purest white any LCD dreams of and also a much bigger color gamut, also it has a fraction of the pixel response time of any gaming tft lcd out there producing less ghosting and blurring when in motion, on top of the pure blacks as you acknowledged also.
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The whites are though life dependant and Triluminos widens the color gamut to 85% of Adobe RGB 1998 ICC profile.
As for the over saturation, the oversaturation comes by default to boast the contrast capabilities of the oled screens, normally found in test units, my galaxy s6 for example came out of the box with such a toned down saturation that nobody would even dare to call it an OLED, but anytime i want to enable eye popping colours i just change the color scheme from the display settings itself.
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Interesting. So kind of cheating for tests/demoing regarding readability as you cant have both maximum readability and accurate colors.
Theres no reason to vote for a LCD anymore, except if you are concered about buying a monitor/tv thats always ON and not bothered with image quality, then LCD is best as it doesnt suffer from burn in issues, or color degradation, but frankly thats just about it.
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The highlighted part goes against your first comment. All 3 color channels degrade independantly of each other based on what is displayed and how colors are used. Blue is still used the most.
EDIT: i also forgot to mention that the best LCD screen ive ever come across in any phone was the Xperia Z1 Compact screen, perfect color reproduction at everything, which put Xperia Z2, Xperia Z3 (both normal and compact) and Xperia Z5(Again, both normal and compact) screens to shame.
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I have not tunned the Z5c LCD but it does actually for my unit use to much blue. Though my Z1 has near perfect white balance with minimal tweaks aswell as boosting impressive contrast, top notch color reproduction and good viewing angles. For being a TFT LCD with Triluminos it is quite close to IPS LCD regarding viewing angles except when brightness on displayed material goes above a certain threshold but immensly better than a regular TFT LCD. I have a JDI panel btw.
So for me the Xperia Z5 screens are dissapointing and white balance by default is over the top, too much RED, to calibrate it properly youll loose other screen abilities.
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Strangely enough it either goes for to much red or blue. Maybe panels come with different "qualities" and/or different assembly fabrics and quality. As long as you dont have to 'mute' a color channel to much to get good whites it should be OK else you lose brightness and contrast.
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I had a Note 4 before getting a Z5P. Stock Samsung is garbage. You have to look into AOSP/CM for the Note 4 and it may not be 100% stable. The Note 4's camera is definitely though. Z5 camera is only good on paper but in real world situation Note 4 wins easily. Z5 has way too many pixels can't produce a good image unless the source is extremely well lit.
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Aint as clear cut as you think regarding the camera.
http://www.manilashaker.com/sony-xp...v10-galaxy-note-5-nexus-6p-camera-comparison/

EQ2000 said:
Aint as clear cut as you think regarding the camera.
http://www.manilashaker.com/sony-xp...v10-galaxy-note-5-nexus-6p-camera-comparison/
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The camera is really bad in real world situations. Despite what you read in reviews that only test extremely bright or extremely dark environments, taking photos at home or indoors is pointless. People's faces will look like they were smeared with peanut butter. http://imgur.com/0OhbSaq
It performs worse http://imgur.com/Pfd76nR than my Note 4 http://i.imgur.com/wOvr0kl.png in indoor lighting, which means the camera was a straight-up downgrade for me. I don't bother trying to take pictures unless they're daylight or I can use flash which, to make matters worse, is still extremely weak. This all seems like extremely crappy postprocessing smudging pixels together and there's no way to turn it off since there's no RAW support.

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The camera is really bad in real world situations. Despite what you read in reviews that only test extremely bright or extremely dark environments, taking photos at home or indoors is pointless. People's faces will look like they were smeared with peanut butter. http://imgur.com/0OhbSaq
It performs worse http://imgur.com/Pfd76nR than my Note 4 http://i.imgur.com/wOvr0kl.png in indoor lighting, which means the camera was a straight-up downgrade for me. I don't bother trying to take pictures unless they're daylight or I can use flash which, to make matters worse, is still extremely weak. This all seems like extremely crappy postprocessing smudging pixels together and there's no way to turn it off since there's no RAW support.
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I own the Z5c and cant relate to what you are sayinh although it sure needs some white balance and algorithm tweaking. In your photo comparision it looks like the Z5 photo was taken with zoom and possibly older firmware vs just a crop from the Note 4. Without ISO and shutter speed info it's also quite pointless "comparision". Exif would show it zoom was used and much more. I can say though that not even with ISO 6400 in low light does my Z5c produce such bad image quality. Only with zoom.
And the test I linked to is properly done with information and different scenes with different lighting conditions unlinke the "tests" by random people on the interwebs posting photos without exif data nor information and croppings where you have no orignal fullsize photo as reference either. Who has more credibility, that test or your "test"? Anyway it's pretty much settled in stone that the Z5 is better.

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I own the Z5c and cant relate to what you are sayinh although it sure needs some white balance and algorithm tweaking. In your photo comparision it looks like the Z5 photo was taken with zoom and possibly older firmware vs just a crop from the Note 4. Without ISO and shutter speed info it's also quite pointless "comparision". Exif would show it zoom was used and much more. I can say though that not even with ISO 6400 in low light does my Z5c produce such bad image quality. Only with zoom.
And the test I linked to is properly done with information and different scenes with different lighting conditions unlinke the "tests" by random people on the interwebs posting photos without exif data nor information and croppings where you have no orignal fullsize photo as reference either. Who has more credibility, that test or your "test"? Anyway it's pretty much settled in stone that the Z5 is better.
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And you missed the point...
The point is, these are real world samples. The first shot was me at a wedding. Yeah, it's zoomed, but not the point. The point is the heavy smearing of pixels the post processor does, ruining the quality, just because to Sony all noise is bad.
The second was my Note 4 and Z5P both taking a picture at the exact same distance of something I have at home in dim lighting. The Z5 is straight up worst and if you can't see that, that's some serious " fanboyism" there. And yeah, my Z5P running 6.200, so no, it's not an "older firmware." You don't need EXIF data to see the point I'm making. In dim lighting, the Z5 severely underperforms. But you rather believe my sharing of these photos is part of some conspiracy to maliciously fake a comparison so the Note 4 is better go right ahead.

TheWarKeeper said:
Lol, comparing an OLED display vs any LCD display and pretending that LCDS can be on par or better than OLED displays is so dillusional its actually funny!
Well then.check it from the mouth of note 4 users.The quality control is aweful as it was with N3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
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TheWarKeeper said:
Lol, comparing an OLED display vs any LCD display and pretending that LCDS can be on par or better than OLED displays is so dillusional its actually funny!
Well then.check it from the mouth of note 4 users.The quality control is aweful as it was with N3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
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Thanks for the link! This pretty much validates my points about OLED flaws.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-replacement-s6-due-to-screen-t3074865/page95
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EQ2000 said:
They still suffer from uneven colors and shades over the display.
The whites are though life dependant and Triluminos widens the color gamut to 85% of Adobe RGB 1998 ICC profile.
Interesting. So kind of cheating for tests/demoing regarding readability as you cant have both maximum readability and accurate colors.
The highlighted part goes against your first comment. All 3 color channels degrade independantly of each other based on what is displayed and how colors are used. Blue is still used the most.
I have not tunned the Z5c LCD but it does actually for my unit use to much blue. Though my Z1 has near perfect white balance with minimal tweaks aswell as boosting impressive contrast, top notch color reproduction and good viewing angles. For being a TFT LCD with Triluminos it is quite close to IPS LCD regarding viewing angles except when brightness on displayed material goes above a certain threshold but immensly better than a regular TFT LCD. I have a JDI panel btw.
Strangely enough it either goes for to much red or blue. Maybe panels come with different "qualities" and/or different assembly fabrics and quality. As long as you dont have to 'mute' a color channel to much to get good whites it should be OK else you lose brightness and contrast.
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Aint as clear cut as you think regarding the camera.
http://www.manilashaker.com/sony-xp...v10-galaxy-note-5-nexus-6p-camera-comparison/
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Ok well it makes me think that you didnt own a proper OLED phone, maybe you did own a bad one in the past and the screen was crap (defective).
First of all, OLED screens do not result in color saturation shift when degrading because the software inside their panel drivers automatically correct the color shifting, (my galaxy s2 still has top notch colors).
As for the cheating, i have no idea what you mean by that, you can saturate the colors or desaturate them at your will, i dont know what cheating is involved because there isnt any cheating at all xD
I have tuned my Xperia Z5 screen and i had to keep red to minimum and blue and green almost to max to get a proper white balance, doing so, resulted in severly desaturated colors and bad luminosity (as the panel software disallows maximum brightness values when colors are calibrated).
I never liked the Xperia Z1 screen, a small tilt resulted in horrid washed out colors, Xperia Z1 Compact is a completely different beast with the best IPS panel ive ever seen in any phone 1800:1 contrast ratio (native)!
As for that complaint in the note 4 forums, its obvious that the user of that phone suffers from the typical defective screens that samsung fails to stop at production, uneven color or tints of any kind on the screen is not a characteristic of an oled screen, its a characteristic of a defective unit, i have to change 2 galaxy s6 untill i got 1 with perfect colours, i had to change 1 galaxy s2 to get the good screen and the galaxy s4 i got it with perfect color reproduction from start.
Finally, LCD screens were always the worst type of screens in term of image quality and color fidelity, even at professional image editing level which means wasting thousands of dollars on a proper IPS LCD screen, professionals were never really satisfied with its color reproduction and instead choose to use old school CRT monitors (myself included).
The only reasons why LCDs are successfull is because of good marketing, they suck at color accuracy, they suck at pixel response time and they suck at image definition. (My OLD Sony CRT ran 75hertz at 2048x1536)
It was a joy to use in any type of situation, movies, playing games and image editing software.

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Ok well it makes me think that you didnt own a proper OLED phone, maybe you did own a bad one in the past and the screen was crap (defective).
First of all, OLED screens do not result in color saturation shift when degrading because the software inside their panel drivers automatically correct the color shifting, (my galaxy s2 still has top notch colors).
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You still lose luminosty and or/color representation quality when correcting the other channels to lowest common denominator uniformly. S2, S3 and played with S4 and S5. The former ones wher just horrible. You could almost spot the pentile matrix design and colors overly saturated. "Eye bleeders"! :laugh:
As for the cheating, i have no idea what you mean by that, you can saturate the colors or desaturate them at your will, i dont know what cheating is involved because there isnt any cheating at all xD
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Contrast ratio tests which is what is mostly looked at compared to proper color output.
I have tuned my Xperia Z5 screen and i had to keep red to minimum and blue and green almost to max to get a proper white balance, doing so, resulted in severly desaturated colors and bad luminosity (as the panel software disallows maximum brightness values when colors are calibrated).
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You mean you had to set green and blue close to 255? That sounds like your screen is way off. I might look into mine later and see how much it needs to be tweaked via the white balance setting.
I never liked the Xperia Z1 screen, a small tilt resulted in horrid washed out colors, Xperia Z1 Compact is a completely different beast with the best IPS panel ive ever seen in any phone 1800:1 contrast ratio (native)!
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Well then that was the AUO panel. They made an ugly one by having different panels. I got the good one, JDI and I can tilt it and have very close results to that of an IPS LCD as long as the displayed graphics aint overly bright (lots of white) where it then performs worse but then I am talking about extreme viewing angles. Btw OLED also looses quality when tilting at sides and has 'color switching' and black suffers (if pixels aint switched off).
Finally, LCD screens were always the worst type of screens in term of image quality and color fidelity, even at professional image editing level which means wasting thousands of dollars on a proper IPS LCD screen, professionals were never really satisfied with its color reproduction and instead choose to use old school CRT monitors (myself included).
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Still better than having uneven colors and blotches. Nothing worse than having a display that looks like a CRT that has been abused with a magnet (not as bad though but still!).
The only reasons why LCDs are successfull is because of good marketing, they suck at color accuracy, they suck at pixel response time and they suck at image definition. (My OLD Sony CRT ran 75hertz at 2048x1536)
It was a joy to use in any type of situation, movies, playing games and image editing software.
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Well I did wait for the longest before switching to LCD from a CRT. Loved my Sony Trinitron monitor. Atleast it failed with pride.
As for that complaint in the note 4 forums, its obvious that the user of that phone suffers from the typical defective screens that samsung fails to stop at production, uneven color or tints of any kind on the screen is not a characteristic of an oled screen, its a characteristic of a defective unit, i have to change 2 galaxy s6 untill i got 1 with perfect colours, i had to change 1 galaxy s2 to get the good screen and the galaxy s4 i got it with perfect color reproduction from start.
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Right.. 3 on a row, 5 on a row, most/all retail store display units.. Then going by what you say Samsung has horrible QA for their OLED displays and you are in for a ride in the lottery. Tons of people in the 95 page thread going through multiple units all with the pink/green blotches with varying severity. Pretty few getting a rplacement display that has none. All showing some color hues and some reporting it going worse by time. You even got a video showing differences in white point color to at same display color settings!
I even checked at local mobile phone store and S6, Note 5 units had color blotches on a white background. Some better some worse but still there.
Just Google it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=s6+...en&ie=UTF-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=91W2VuCDMseyO9WDq7gB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/pink-tint-near-screen-t3081656
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-replacement-s6-due-to-screen-t3074865/page95
https://www.buyfromwhere.com/galaxy-s6-the-ugly-truth-about-its-screen/
Lots of users getting this with hard evidence to prove it. #Pink#Gate

You guys looks like one work at Samsung and one at Sony ??

Anyone else have blue color shifting when viewed even a little off-axis?

I received my Axon 7 on Wednesday this week. The AMOLED screen does have very good blacks and looks vibrant, but there is an issue I haven't seen discussed - I'm trying to determine if its just my phone, an issue with AMOLED in general, or perhaps a coating specific to the Axon 7:
When I view the phone directly, whites look correct (warm, natural or cool depending on the Display setting). However, turning the phone even a little off-axis, 10-20° either vertically or horizontally, introduces a very small blue shift - whites especially take on a bluish, sort of washed-out cast. It makes the colors seem much more shallow and unreliable. Can those of you who received your phones go to a WHITE or light-color screen and report if this happens for you too?
This is actually hard to identify, most people will just see something is a little "off" - to my eye, it looked like a very subtle version of a TN-panel color shift. I never have seen this on an IPS panel, though off-angles may get washed out (see Nexus 5/5X) quickly at 50-60°, they always retain their color, even if it lightens. Or, e.g., the Moto X Pure 2K IPS panel that I'm coming from has zero off-angle color shift, no wash-out, and just darkens a little even at 180°. This is my first AMOLED panel, so I'm not sure if it happens often.
If anyone can help me determine whether this is a defect or an expected limitation, that would be great.

I've noticed it on my A7 too. This is my first AMOLED phone, so I too am not sure if this is normal.

I see it also. Thanks a lot now I won't be able to insert it.
For now I will blame the screen protector that came in the screen.

Welcome to Amoled.
The cheap screen protector contributes too,

Thanks, all - I guess it's just the phone then. I actually don't have the screen protector insert applied, so I assume the "screen protector" refers to the factory glass overlay.
Does anyone know if even the new Samsung AMOLEDs exhibit this shift? I think the Axon 7 is technically a Samsung panel, but I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung kept the best AMOLED technology for themselves.
Not sure this is a dealbreaker, but it's definitely a step down from the great color-true viewing angles on the Moto X Pure. (Too bad Moto abandoned the good design the Moto X Pure had for gimmicky snap-on modules this year rather than iterating - it seems like the Axon 7 is otherwise the spiritual successor to the MXP.)

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Thanks, all - I guess it's just the phone then. I actually don't have the screen protector insert applied, so I assume the "screen protector" refers to the factory glass overlay.
Does anyone know if even the new Samsung AMOLEDs exhibit this shift? I think the Axon 7 is technically a Samsung panel, but I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung kept the best AMOLED technology for themselves.
Not sure this is a dealbreaker, but it's definitely a step down from the great color-true viewing angles on the Moto X Pure. (Too bad Moto abandoned the good design the Moto X Pure had for gimmicky snap-on modules this year rather than iterating - it seems like the Axon 7 is otherwise the spiritual successor to the MXP.)
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Of course Samsung keeps the top production panel for themselves... However, it's still a great panel according to colorimetry tests.

Don't notice it on my unit. Jumped from a galaxy S7 edge to the Axon 7 and the display looks exactly the same to me.

This is an area that has driven me a little crazy. I'm used to my Samsung AMOLEDs (Note 4, Note 3, S3, etc.), and they don't have any noticeable "shift", This screen is gorgeous, but it's not a top-tier Samsung panel (obviously). Still, small price to pay for a 400 dollar savings over a Note 7. I am also positive the matte screen protector isn't helping. Once my tempered glass one gets here, I will switch it out and see if it makes a difference.

Which tempered glass screen protector are you getting? I have not read one good review for any of them...yet.

As an update, I went and tried some floor model Galaxy phones at the mall, and they actually had worse off-axis blue shift. Not sure if that's because of the initial screen quality, or that it got worse over time.
Does anyone know of any AMOLED phone (specific model) that does not have any perceptible shift? Does anyone know if the shift gets worse over time?

ScaryBugThing said:
I received my Axon 7 on Wednesday this week. The AMOLED screen does have very good blacks and looks vibrant, but there is an issue I haven't seen discussed - I'm trying to determine if its just my phone, an issue with AMOLED in general, or perhaps a coating specific to the Axon 7:
When I view the phone directly, whites look correct (warm, natural or cool depending on the Display setting). However, turning the phone even a little off-axis, 10-20° either vertically or horizontally, introduces a very small blue shift - whites especially take on a bluish, sort of washed-out cast. It makes the colors seem much more shallow and unreliable. Can those of you who received your phones go to a WHITE or light-color screen and report if this happens for you too?
This is actually hard to identify, most people will just see something is a little "off" - to my eye, it looked like a very subtle version of a TN-panel color shift. I never have seen this on an IPS panel, though off-angles may get washed out (see Nexus 5/5X) quickly at 50-60°, they always retain their color, even if it lightens. Or, e.g., the Moto X Pure 2K IPS panel that I'm coming from has zero off-angle color shift, no wash-out, and just darkens a little even at 180°. This is my first AMOLED panel, so I'm not sure if it happens often.
If anyone can help me determine whether this is a defect or an expected limitation, that would be great.
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I believe others are correct that it is the cheap screen protector. Plastics is refracting the light leaving the phone. Since blue light refracts more (the reason the sky and sea is blue). you will then to get more blue especially at certain angles.
I don't think tempered glass of the same thickness will make a significant difference but i do recommend getting a tempered glass protection because the cheap plastic one will surely be scratched very quickly. There a lot of things that will cause increased color shift, but I am not sure its a huge issue. I don't think accurate color is needed off axis. I could be wrong. I typically only look at the screen off axis when I am trying to take a odd angle picture or too lazy to move when I am in bed.
If any one does find a screen protector that distorts less please let us know.

HonestOtter said:
I believe others are correct that it is the cheap screen protector. Plastics is refracting the light leaving the phone. Since blue light refracts more (the reason the sky and sea is blue). you will then to get more blue especially at certain angles.
I don't think tempered glass of the same thickness will make a significant difference but i do recommend getting a tempered glass protection because the cheap plastic one will surely be scratched very quickly. There a lot of things that will cause increased color shift, but I am not sure its a huge issue. I don't think accurate color is needed off axis. I could be wrong. I typically only look at the screen off axis when I am trying to take a odd angle picture or too lazy to move when I am in bed.
If any one does find a screen protector that distorts less please let us know.
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The first thing I did was remove the screen protector, and I still notice a blue-ish shift at angles. It's minor though, and it's definitely not a dealbreaker.

xtermmin said:
The first thing I did was remove the screen protector, and I still notice a blue-ish shift at angles. It's minor though, and it's definitely not a dealbreaker.
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AMOLED screens are typically like that. When I get on the bus and see people using their galaxies, it always looks cyan from an angle. LCD technology loses contrast at angles, whereas AMOLED has chroma shift.

HonestOtter said:
I believe others are correct that it is the cheap screen protector. Plastics is refracting the light leaving the phone. Since blue light refracts more (the reason the sky and sea is blue). you will then to get more blue especially at certain angles.
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If any one does find a screen protector that distorts less please let us know.
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Just to be clear - the color shift happens without any additional protector. Someone else used the word "protector," but I only have the bare Gorilla Glass in front of the AMOLED screen, no plastic or other layer added.

I see it as well with no screen protector on.

ScaryBugThing said:
Just to be clear - the color shift happens without any additional protector. Someone else used the word "protector," but I only have the bare Gorilla Glass in front of the AMOLED screen, no plastic or other layer added.
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I never understood why phone makers use glass. Just make it plastic with a removable glass screen protector that the user can replace if broken. My GF dropped her phone, The tempered glass protector broke but protected the glass screen.
I do like that the S7 active has a plastic screen just wish all companies did this.

Hello,
I have the same issue with 5 devices I was testing. Every Axon 7 had the issue with the color shift from a red tint, to a blue tint when tilted.
Is there someone without the issue or is it really normal?

Draygon said:
Hello,
I have the same issue with 5 devices I was testing. Every Axon 7 had the issue with the color shift from a red tint, to a blue tint when tilted.
Is there someone without the issue or is it really normal?
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I guess it's the pentile arrangement, since blue subpixels are larger

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LG G6 screen vs amoled: are you happy? I'm disappointed...

Hi everyone...
my operator just offered a limited-time rebate, that lowers G6 cost to just 310 EUR, so i decided to seriously consider it as my Note 4 is on its last legs with its snail-speed EMMC memory which is also a time bomb as it can fail at any moment.
LG G6 is one of the few phones (apart from the Sharp Aquos or Xiaomi Mi Mix) that i actually like...
so i went to a huge department store to test it in real life... and was very disappointed, as the screen looks dull, and text clarity is mediocre. Websites like Android Authority (with gray text) look mediocre too.. Also the store (mediamarkt) was very well lit with lamps, and raising the brightness to max level only made the brightness good enough... well, comparing the LG G6 screen with my note 4 side by side was upsetting, it looked somewhat grayish, and would be clearly a downgrade. The key thing is that it is not crisp.
In the same store were also samsung and huawei demo zones. I understand that LG G6 and Huawei phones have IPS screens... The phone (screen) that I liked very much turned out to be Huawei Mate 9. Huawei P10 was also nice, but Mate 9 screen was the best imho. Unfortunately i recommended a huawei phone to muy friend (it was Huawei Note 8) and now he has tremendous communication delays, whatsapps get delivered sometimes hours later (here users complain about the same problem), so Huawei unfortunately is not an option for me. I was really hoping LG G6 would do, especially at a very decent price of 310 EUR.
I thought maybe it was a defective unit... so i went to another department store nearby that was less lit and also had LG G6 demo zone. It actually had several G6s and they all had that mediocre screens...
Finally i'm afraid i will have to skip that 310 EUR offer which is a pity, i'd love to have a more snappy phone... And in general G6 is very compact and nice...
Wondering what are your impressions from LG G6 screen? I've looked though these forums and see that most people rave about it, which is astonishing. Am i too critical?

I have the (Korean?) H870DS 64GB, Quad DAC version and I am extremely happy with the screen. AMOLED screens may have vibrant colours and black-black, but the colours just don't look natural.

LG G6 has one of the best screens out there, it's got HDR10 display certified too that it almost matches the very best displays like the Galaxy S8, where as IPS Quantum Display in the LG is better than AMOLED is the oranges you see on the AMOLED appear very red , AMOLED are being notorious for over-saturation and longer image retention (screen burn in might be permanent in AMOLED where as IPS the burn in is temporary) LG IPS Quantum Display has excellent whites and more natural colours.

If you are used to seeing life through an over-saturated screen then accurate RGB will seem subdued.
However go into settings on your Note 4 and turn display mode to BASIC and you will see RGB mode on Samsung panels looks very different. Now compare to the G6 ...
Remember Display Mate rate Samsung panels highly based on the 'basic' mode due to colour accuracy and not on Adaptive Display mode they ship with as default.
However if you are fan of the boosted colours then likely only another over saturated AMOLED panel will appease and therefore the G6 isn't for you.
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I am happy with the change i have come from an s8 with the screen i have had all the s range all the note range bar the 5 as was not out in the uk and there is not really that much difference part from blacks look really black on samsung phones my whites look white on my g6 unlike my s8 they looked pink/ red if you are not picking you will find faults and the lg ui is more fluid and faster than my s8 not had one bit of stutter or lag on my g6 but had fair bot on s8

No complaints about the G6 screen. This was my first LCD phone is many years (previously S6, S4, S3, and Note 2; plus Galaxy Tab S), so was worried about switching to the G6's LCD. I see the differences when I compare side-by-side, but I don't notice the difference when I use the G6 by itself.
The Huawei you saw at the store might be set to demo/display mode (like TVs) that maximizes brightness and color to levels you probably wouldn't use.

Yes it does have the hdr 10 thing but there is other phones having it but what the lg g6 is the only phone certifed for , is the dolby vision nd it s the only phone till now it does take the hdr thing to another level :laugh:

No complaints with the screen here, seems just as crisp as my Galaxy S6, with the added benefit of no screen burn. Very happy.
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It's more of a personal choice. I find benefits in both superAmoled, and IPS panels. For me, Amoled is better for long time reading, mostly because of true blacks and less backlight emitition (as I use with my tab s3) while for more realistic colors and specially true white, I prefer my G6. It has probably the best IPS panel I've seen by far.
Unrelated, but somehow related to screen experience, my s7 was a fingerprint magnet. G6 oleophobic coating seems to be much better! (At least after a few weeks)

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Yes it does have the hdr 10 thing but there is other phones having it but what the lg g6 is the only phone certifed for , is the dolby vision nd it s the only phone till now it does take the hdr thing to another level :laugh:
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As with most tv content HDR is useless and really really useless during the daytime. This coming from a guy who invested $5k last year on 4k tv and playable equipment. From xbox 1 S. Amazing OLED LG 65" and samsung hdr 4k player

Does anyone use this? It's kinda cool I use it to get a better contrast ratio. Since we don't get screen modes like Samsung does. Been doing it since my g3

Sad ? First of all you should know the difference between amoled and LCD .
An amoled while delivers punchy vibrant colors is actually unreal or artificial colors.
LCD is not punchy but produce Real life colors almost.
Red is red and blue is blue .
Gotta doubt ? Try taking pics of some fruits mixed together and compare them in 2k amoled and 2k LCD.
And for original clarity of display the display brightness should be around 50%.
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Sad ? First of all you should know the difference between amoled and LCD .
An amoled while delivers punchy vibrant colors is actually unreal or artificial colors.
LCD is not punchy but produce Real life colors almost.
Red is red and blue is blue .
Gotta doubt ? Try taking pics of some fruits mixed together and compare them in 2k amoled and 2k LCD.
And for original clarity of display the display brightness should be around 50%.

I have the oneplus 3t and purchased a G6 from eglobal. Excellent service and price. I must say I was also disappointed with the G6 screen the whites are so cool they look blue. I tried changing the colour temperature in the visual settings but couldn't find any srgb mode like I have on the 3t. Brightness is also not great. I sold it on as for me the lcd was just not very nice to look at which is a shame tbh. Hoping the v30 will use a better screen.

Coming from S7 Edge, I must say the LG G6 screen is quite poor ( I still have the S7E). People here bragging about it being an LCD display, true color renditions, and HDR, doesn't know enough to judge the displays. Well, I have a Mi 5 and also compared the iPhone 7 display to the LG 6 ( Both Mi 5 and iPhone 7 has LCD displays) and unfortunately, g6's display was not impressive at all. Not deep enough blacks ( Again comparing only to other LCD's and not to an AMOLED screen), not bright enough(Even indoors, I keep it around 60 plus percent for a satisfactory brightness), not sharp enough ( The text looks pale and not so sharp) and the viewing angles are terrible. I am of course not in any way expecting the G6 to compete with the Samsung AMOLED displays, but G6 being 2017 flagship from LG, should be good enough to compete with at least the Xiaomi Mi 5 if not an iPhone 7.
I bought it for a few reasons,
1) Design and look ( Looks pretty sleek and neat)
2) Got it for a really cheap deal
3) Love the wide angle camera
I had a really tough time maintaining my S7E. It does not have a proper tempered glass due to its edge display and that's the main reason I wanted to switch to another phone so that I can avoid the head ache of changing the tempered glass every month and also my S7E display cracked even with a tempered glass on ( Though it's pretty usable and used it in that same condition for about 6 months). So thought it's not worth getting the display replaced as it seems too fragile and I did not find any other phone to switch to(Not a fan of iPhones), so have temporarily switched to the G6. I think I will switch to Pixel 2 as soon as its launched ( Hate the present pixel for those ugly big chins)
So yeah the G6 display is a very mediocre and definitely not something you should buy the phone for.

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Coming from S7 Edge, I must say the LG G6 screen is quite poor ( I still have the S7E). People here bragging about it being an LCD display, true color renditions, and HDR, doesn't know enough to judge the displays.
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Well this is a stupid assumption because me for example, reviews Monitors for Companies like Yamakasi, Catleap, Samsung, Dell. I had around 15 different Monitors in the last four years (21:9,4K,WQHD,IPS,TN,244 Hz,3D,PLS,G-Sync,Freesync, pretty much everything). And i can tell you from a standpoint where facts matter, the Amoled Smartphone displays are total crap. Amoled has nicer blacks because it doesn't require to power black pixels, in other words, black means off. But the over saturation is completely unrealistic and extremely annoying when taking pictures on your Smartphone and then transfering them to your PC suddenly noticing the Image is way less colorfull and saturated on a Eizo calibrated Eizo Foris. This is nuts. And if you find IPS Panels White color too cool, then you must know that Witebalance is increased with brightness. Whites may look whiter, but if you over expose greys become white too, thats why IPS displays look a bit cooler, because otherwise you would have a solid block of white instead of a nice dynamic range.
Im coming from a Galaxy Note 4 and, guys. This Display is so much better for people who actually want realistic colors and know how to use the camera properly. (eg. Tech Guys). I know many people want extreme Bass on their Headphones or over saturated displays, but it doesn't change the fact that you are loosing details or faking the output. Its simply unpleasant to the eye to have such a big amount of saturation where in reality everything looks much more natural. This stuff was cool when i was 14. Nowadays i want to reproduce everything 1:1, no matter if its Sound Quality or Display color. Professionals are much better off with the G6.

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Well this is a stupid assumption because me for example, reviews Monitors for Companies like Yamakasi, Catleap, Samsung, Dell. I had around 15 different Monitors in the last four years (21:9,4K,WQHD,IPS,TN,244 Hz,3D,PLS,G-Sync,Freesync, pretty much everything). And i can tell you from a standpoint where facts matter, the Amoled Smartphone displays are total crap. Amoled has nicer blacks because it doesn't require to power black pixels, in other words, black means off. But the over saturation is completely unrealistic and extremely annoying when taking pictures on your Smartphone and then transfering them to your PC suddenly noticing the Image is way less colorfull and saturated on a Eizo calibrated Eizo Foris. This is nuts. And if you find IPS Panels White color too cool, then you must know that Witebalance is increased with brightness. Whites may look whiter, but if you over expose greys become white too, thats why IPS displays look a bit cooler, because otherwise you would have a solid block of white instead of a nice dynamic range.
Im coming from a Galaxy Note 4 and, guys. This Display is so much better for people who actually want realistic colors and know how to use the camera properly. (eg. Tech Guys). I know many people want extreme Bass on their Headphones or over saturated displays, but it doesn't change the fact that you are loosing details or faking the output. Its simply unpleasant to the eye to have such a big amount of saturation where in reality everything looks much more natural. This stuff was cool when i was 14. Nowadays i want to reproduce everything 1:1, no matter if its Sound Quality or Display color. Professionals are much better off with the G6.
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Serious the display is not good. The whites are so blue. Lets not turn this into amoled vs lcd because we all know LG, Apple/Sharp will be using Amoled in the future not lcd.
Just pick up an iPhone and compare the G6 screen and that will show how poor it is. Just hope v30 will be better.

I'm disappointed in Samsung crappy Amoled panels. My first S8+ had severly brighter upper half than bottom when viewing dark content. My second unit has white balance shift on the bottom part. Red left side green right side. I can never ever get a good Samsung panel. With the S7+ I switched phones 4 times and never got a good screen. Also Amoled whites suck it's not white like LCD. I ****ing give up on Sammy phones forever now I enjoy my G6 LCD so much more it has punch to its white and not these quality issues Samsung always has had.

Darksession said:
Well this is a stupid assumption because me for example, reviews Monitors for Companies like Yamakasi, Catleap, Samsung, Dell. I had around 15 different Monitors in the last four years (21:9,4K,WQHD,IPS,TN,244 Hz,3D,PLS,G-Sync,Freesync, pretty much everything). And i can tell you from a standpoint where facts matter, the Amoled Smartphone displays are total crap. Amoled has nicer blacks because it doesn't require to power black pixels, in other words, black means off. But the over saturation is completely unrealistic and extremely annoying when taking pictures on your Smartphone and then transfering them to your PC suddenly noticing the Image is way less colorfull and saturated on a Eizo calibrated Eizo Foris. This is nuts. And if you find IPS Panels White color too cool, then you must know that Witebalance is increased with brightness. Whites may look whiter, but if you over expose greys become white too, thats why IPS displays look a bit cooler, because otherwise you would have a solid block of white instead of a nice dynamic range.
Im coming from a Galaxy Note 4 and, guys. This Display is so much better for people who actually want realistic colors and know how to use the camera properly. (eg. Tech Guys). I know many people want extreme Bass on their Headphones or over saturated displays, but it doesn't change the fact that you are loosing details or faking the output. Its simply unpleasant to the eye to have such a big amount of saturation where in reality everything looks much more natural. This stuff was cool when i was 14. Nowadays i want to reproduce everything 1:1, no matter if its Sound Quality or Display color. Professionals are much better off with the G6.
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Did you even read my complete post? My god, how you just want to jump all over and prove me wrong. Please read my complete post if you haven't already. I clearly said i am not comparing the G6's display to the AMOLED ones and i am a professional photographer myself and i know what it means to have a display that can render true colors. But i clearly mentioned that, when i compared this display with the Mi 5, iPhone7 and I even compared it to the Mi 6 today which all have LCD displays and not AMOLED, and unfortunately, they all render better colors ( Of course true colors), they look sharper ( In fact all those phones i mentioned doesnt even have a QHD display, they are all full HD) and over all more impressive. I am not here to win an argument, i am simply stating the facts. being a G6 owner my self, i have no reasons to prove anything against it, unless it is really true.

It really strikes me how display quality perception differs among individuals.
I'm in the process of choosing my next smartphone and, being picky on display quality, I read a lot of posts and reviews putting attention to the display topic.
Well, someone says LG G6 is an excellent display, with good luminosity, well calibrated colors and deep blacks (second only to HTC U Ultra, which looks to have one of the best LCD displays to date).
Someone else, the minority in my reading actually, are not happy and say that blacks quickly turn to grays even at little angles.
Obviously I'm puzzled, and now my only hope is that a store near me will receive a G6 soon, so I'll be able to check it out first hand.

Oneplus 3t in maximum brightness and lg g6 in maximum brightness which is brighter and better to read in the sun? I miss my oneplus two because it was mich better to read
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Clarity/resolution

The Huawei P30 Pro has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

They should have definitely gone with a 2k panel, as the display on this phone reminds me a lot of the S5 and S4 displays. Texts looks fuzzy, and the brighter the screen goes, the more you'll be able to notice the pixels, and you don't even need to look for them. Maybe my eyes got used to the sharper displays I had in the past few years, but even when compared to my last year's P20 P30, this doesn't look that good in terms of sharpness.

If you keep the phone really near your face for example when in bed or trying to read something, you will notice it.
You also noticed it when comparing some videos between this and a 2k screen. The images in this phone are very sharp, but in a bad way..

You will also notice the better battery life. It was the major negative in the specification and nearly stopped me buying the phone. But I checked out the display in the shop and I was happy with the OLED panel. Not blown away but I think the difference between this and some of the higher resolution phones is marginal. I cant see any pixels in text have changed the default size of text in the phones settings?
Wonder why be default Samsung set the Galaxy S10 to FHD+ the same as the P30?

No pixelation at all,and default settings for most of 2k phones is fhd+ resolution.
The 2k resolution is useful for VR content using cardboard or similar.
For normal eye,we can't notice any pixelation with FHD+ resolution. 2k resolution is selling point only for other phones or brand but not necessarily useful or noticable

They should give us the option to use 1440p or 1080p instead of just took it away while charging full flagship price.

You won't notice the difference at all unless comparing side by side.
Came from a pixel 2 xl and the downgrade in the screen is barely noticeable

rajziel said:
You won't notice the difference at all unless comparing side by side.
Came from a pixel 2 xl and the downgrade in the screen is barely noticeable
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Pixel 2 xl screen on white was already grainy.
You can see pixels on Black text on whites for sure sure sure. The display is so bad. Compare it with any 1080p display in market. That's the only down side of this phone and also the camera hype.

I've compared to quite a few devices. The whole pixel display hysteria was a non issue with later models.
But I have access to samsung s8 and s9 and the display is not that far behind them in terms of quality. Heck I'm straining at the text as I write this and I can't make out any pixels.
Either you have a dodgy unit or seeing things.
Also the camera is pretty damn good. Got some amazing shots that is just not possible from other devices

Maher.k22 said:
They should have definitely gone with a 2k panel, as the display on this phone reminds me a lot of the S5 and S4 displays. Texts looks fuzzy, and the brighter the screen goes, the more you'll be able to notice the pixels, and you don't even need to look for them. Maybe my eyes got used to the sharper displays I had in the past few years, but even when compared to my last year's P20 P30, this doesn't look that good in terms of sharpness.
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An update on this matter after owning the phone for almost two weeks now:
I don't know if it was the tweaks I did to the screen's scaling, or the font size, or my eyes were used to 2k displays, or maybe a combination of all what I mentioned above, but I don't notice the pixels on my phone anymore, and even when I grab my wife's S10+, I don't feel like I'm looking at a much crisper screen. The S10+ still looks like the better panel imo, it feels like it's a sticker that is sitting on top of the glass, but in terms of clarity, I honestly don't see the difference as much as I did the 1st few days after I got my P30 Pro.

mathrania said:
Pixel 2 xl screen on white was already grainy.
You can see pixels on Black text on whites for sure sure sure. The display is so bad. Compare it with any 1080p display in market. That's the only down side of this phone and also the camera hype.
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Depends which pixel 2 xl they sent you, mine is pure white and been happy with it since release, and yes the text is awful on the p30 pro, should have been a 2k screen.

Ady1976 said:
Depends which pixel 2 xl they sent you, mine is pure white and been happy with it since release, and yes the text is awful on the p30 pro, should have been a 2k screen.
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wow i'd love to see your p30 pro panels because mine is nice and crisp.
Nothing wrong with the text
Even had comments on how good the display is from other people

rajziel said:
wow i'd love to see your p30 pro panels because mine is nice and crisp.
Nothing wrong with the text
Even had comments on how good the display is from other people
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Lucky you, the one i sent back was worse clarity than my pixel 2 xl, do some research and apparently they're using 2 different panels, already can't trust a company that can't be arsed using the same **** trying to fulfill orders.

i use fhd+ resolution setting and not the smart choice(default). I m pretty satisfied with the res. FHD is enough for a screen 6-10 inches. Even in 55 4k tv's most people strungle to separate real 4k from FHD(Not me), so this is more psycological feeling than visual on phone screens. Of course side by side qhd looks crispier than fhd but not by far.

Having used many 1080p devices I found the display not seem as sharp as other 1080p devices, never mind 2k. Not sure if its because of the size or the panel. Maybe it would have been better if it was a samsung panel?

Mine is also nice and crisp, you have to change the resolution to 1080p+. Its not as sharp as the s10 but after a while not noticeable. The colours are good and outdoor visibility is great.

I cant honestly tell the difference! if it saves me battery, I am all for it!

Have used it alongside note 8 display, can't seem to find any difference. Works good for me.

Screen looks just as sharp and vibrant as my Note 9. Battery life is noticeably better than that phone though. I can't fault the decision to use a 1080p screen at all.

coming from a Note 9. I definitely see the difference. P30 Pro display is not as crisp. I agree with above that you can actually see the pixels without looking hard