Here is why
G4 and GS6 can have VoLTE disabled....yet can still pick up Band 12.
...yea bs indeed
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PunishedSnake said:
Here is why
G4 and GS6 can have VoLTE disabled....yet can still pick up Band 12.
...yea bs indeed
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I'm really curious to see what all the fuss is about band 12
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mykenyc said:
I'm really curious to see what all the fuss is about band 12
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It's the lowest frequency cellphone band, so theoretically has the best range...
for t-mo at least, it's their answer for being able to keep a cell phone signal inside of buildings. the lower the MHz, the better it penetrates, and like was said, generally the longer the range too.
If you're not on T-Mobile band 12 is worthless to you.
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G4 and GS6 can have VoLTE disabled....yet can still pick up Band 12.
...yea bs indeed
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What exactly is BS? T-Mobile is pushing manufacturers to disable band 12 if they don't have VoLTE due to issues calling 911. Until Motorola decides to add VoLTE on their devices, I doubt you will ever see band 12 enabled on their non T-Mobile branded phones ever again.
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What exactly is BS? T-Mobile is pushing manufacturers to disable band 12 if they don't have VoLTE due to issues calling 911. Until Motorola decides to add VoLTE on their devices, I doubt you will ever see band 12 enabled on their non T-Mobile branded phones ever again.
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Did you read the op?
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Did you read the op?
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I sure did. Btw, you should read this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...2-lte-support-from-some-unlocked-smartphones/
It contains the reason T-mobile is not allowing band 12 without VoLTE on new phones.
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I sure did. Btw, you should read this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...2-lte-support-from-some-unlocked-smartphones/
It contains the reason T-mobile is not allowing band 12 without VoLTE on new phones.
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By the way still not buying the reason as b12 is still active upon disabling volte and this thread was created way before T-Mobile spoke about it
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By the way still not buying the reason as b12 is still active upon disabling volte and this thread was created way before T-Mobile spoke about it
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You may not buy it, but it is clear T-Mobile is pushing manufacturers to disable it when they don't support VoLTE. I guess it is fun to have grand conspiracy theories but the real reason is clear.
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You may not buy it, but it is clear T-Mobile is pushing manufacturers to disable it when they don't support VoLTE. I guess it is fun to have grand conspiracy theories but the real reason is clear.
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I guess you choose to read what you want
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I guess you choose to read what you want
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You didn't even give a reason. You just said Motorola is lying. Yet, we know manufacturers of unlocked phones are disabling band 12 when they don't support VoLTE. Clearly, T-Mobile is pushing them to do it as they gain nothing by disabling it for any other reason. I'm not going to believe your random conspiracy theory over common sense.
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You didn't even give a reason. You just said Motorola is lying. Yet, we know manufacturers of unlocked phones are disabling band 12 when they don't support VoLTE. Clearly, T-Mobile is pushing them to do it as they gain nothing by disabling it for any other reason. I'm not going to believe your random conspiracy theory over common sense.
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I gave the reason twice
Not my fault you don't understand it
....and here I thought I'd just be reading a petition thread...
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I cannot find any carrier info on either this phone or the OnePlus One. Also, is this going to be some insider invite only thing?
Thanks.
I'm almost sure that the OP2 will work on all carriers like the one
and as for the "invite only thing" - yes, you will be able to buy it only with an invite (source)
I think they're unlocked for any carrier. Until last week I saw you could buy the oneplus one without an invite only on tuesdays. And now it says no invite needed, but that's just because the 2 is going out soon. I dont know think it will be the same for the 2 at least for a few months..
Like the OPO and Nexuses, the 1+2 will work on any carrier. If anything it will have even more support for worldwide LTE.
I'd be willing to bet it won't be in CDMA carriers.
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I'd be willing to bet it won't be in CDMA carriers.
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Was the OPOne able to be on Verizon or Sprint?
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Was the OPOne able to be on Verizon or Sprint?
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No. The SD 801 is compatible with CDMA though, so I don't know why it never was, at least for Sprint. Verizon will never allow any dev friendly phones.
Don't think you will be able to have this on VZW or Sprint, they don't like to have phones that they themselves are not selling you. You'd have to get the ESN added, and they don't do that.
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I cannot find any carrier info on either this phone or the OnePlus One. Also, is this going to be some insider invite only thing?
Thanks.
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Maybe OnePlus 2 will be unlocked as OnePlus One.
The OP2 will be unlocked as it is not sold with a particular carrier. Don't expect CDMA though, that requires a different chipset (and a small company like OnePlus are going to make a few variations as possible).
Hopefully it will have the 800MHz band that the OP1 so severely lacked - it is one of the more common and the only widespread LTE band in the UK
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No. The SD 801 is compatible with CDMA though, so I don't know why it never was, at least for Sprint. Verizon will never allow any dev friendly phones.
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Not true. The Nexus 5X works great on Verizon. I think the 6P might also. I do not have that phone.
I'm looking to get the 1+2 I live n the US I have At&t does it fully support the At&t band's ?
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Does anyone know if the the Pure edition is going to support VoLTE on T-Mobile?
Would love to see confirmation on this as well as the other T-Mobile special features like wifi calling and advanced text messaging. If it's missing all of these carrier features it's definitely less appealing.
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thegreatone3 said:
Would love to see confirmation on this as well as the other T-Mobile special features like wifi calling and advanced text messaging. If it's missing all of these carrier features it's definitely less appealing.
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WiFi calling will come via Android M.
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Welp, this has suddenly become a more important question than anybody previously thought.
T-Mobile has, uh, gently persuaded Motorola to remove Band 12 support on the Moto E and G models because they don't support VoLTE. So if you're planning on using the X Pure on T-Mo in an area where they make extensive or exclusive use of Band 12, it's going to matter a whole lot whether it can do VoLTE or not--and from what Moto is saying off the record, getting T-Mo's certification for VoLTE is neither easy nor cheap.
The ball is sort of in Motorola's court now, but they're not talking...
oh and I asked same question didn't see your thread, I would love to know if volte advanced calling will work with VZW. I enjoy it a lot.
I just made a comment regarding this in someone else's thread as well.
I've posed the question directly to Motorola (as well as a couple of reviewer sites) a couple of times myself and received no response yet, which is leading me to believe it will not.
For me, this is a deal breaker, as my purpose of getting this phone was the freedom to move to any carrier/uncarrier. Having test driven T-Mobile just before they opened up the 700mhz band 12 spectrum, I already know the building penetrating alone is poor enough in Kansas City without it that it's not practical for me to make that transition. Then there's the semi spotty service in the more outlying areas, which a lot of will be resolved by the 700mhz spectrum.
John Legere made a comment on Twitter which also leads me to believe that this device will not support FULL VoLTE on the 700mhz spectrum.
The only possibility that keeps me hopeful, is that Motorola MAY have decided to pay T-Mobile for certification for this to get the proprietary info required for true, Full VoLTE on their network.
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I'm thinking that it should be possible to enable band 12 through NV editing (assuming it doesn't work out of the box). Wifi calling is coming natively through the M update. If Moto is smart, they'll roll their 12/volte update in with it, or sooner than that. Either way, I don't think it should be too difficult to get it going.
Aaaaaand, here's the answer: Out of the box, the Pure will not support VoLTE, and Band 12 (700 MHz) is being disabled for T-Mobile. They "expect" to support those things in the future, which is not the same as promising to support them.
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Aaaaaand, here's the answer: Out of the box, the Pure will not support VoLTE, and Band 12 (700 MHz) is being disabled for T-Mobile. They "expect" to support those things in the future, which is not the same as promising to support them.
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Just curious, what's your source of this info?
I'm on US Cellular which also uses Band 12 LTE for rural coverage, so this is kind of a big deal to me. They can't just block it on TMO, as there aren't carrier-specific variants, and we are the only other US carrier affected.
borxnx said:
Just curious, what's your source of this info?
I'm on US Cellular which also uses Band 12 LTE for rural coverage, so this is kind of a big deal to me. They can't just block it on TMO, as there aren't carrier-specific variants, and we are the only other US carrier affected.
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Source for T-Mobile Band 12 support via update:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/cab8687a11?commentId=977403#977403
Also, you may be interested in this:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e570e4be47?commentId=978408#978408
YankInDaSouth said:
Source for T-Mobile Band 12 support via update:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/cab8687a11?commentId=977403#977403
Also, you may be interested in this:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e570e4be47?commentId=978408#978408
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Thanks for the info! This is a sticking point for many USCC users, and is often debated. They will allow Nexus 6 devices and iPhones purchased as unlocked devices to be used on their network. This is a very new policy, and communication has not been very efficient. It seems only some reps know about this.
I believe they are confusing "unlocked" with the previous paradigm of "GSM-only unlocked/international", because they are activating the N6 and iPhones left and right. Sometimes you just have to call back and get a different person who is willing to punch in the IMEI. They are often surprised themselves when it works.
Everything I have read has pointed to the answer that yes, they will activate this device. Employees, radio specifications, press releases, and this recent shift in their policy are all strong indicators. But we'll see, I know a few people who have ordered the device already to use on USCC's network, so I will report back when we know for sure.
Who's going to carry this beast?
4th option supposed to say Sprint, couldn't fix the poll.
i can guarantee it will be att/sprint/tmobile/fi compatible i cant yet guarantee Verizon though.
You think US Cellular will make the list?
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A lot more people with T-Moble than I thought. T-Mobile here
Same here
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I'm sure at&t will support it but I'm hoping they will carry it through THIER next program... I'm here crossing my fingers...
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Sprint if they sell it through there store at some point.
So, there are only 4 carriers in the world?
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So, there are only 4 carriers in the world?
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Correct. Only the four major carriers... in the world. And by world I means the US.
Why you all think XDA is a US specific website when it was actually created in Netherlands??
How likely is it that it will come to sprint
really hoping the offer a trade in program or something
T-Mobile usa has been great at home and for world traveling!
Will tmobile have to carry it for it to have wifi calling and VOLTE?
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Will tmobile have to carry it for it to have wifi calling and VOLTE?
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yes. tmobile will have to offer it for it to have those. they have to add their libs to their 6P model to enable it to be compatible with wifi calling and volte.
freebee269 said:
yes. tmobile will have to offer it for it to have those. they have to add their libs to their 6P model to enable it to be compatible with wifi calling and volte.
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Does that mean they have to carry it before project FI will work as well?
I really hope AT&T next program also
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yes. tmobile will have to offer it for it to have those. they have to add their libs to their 6P model to enable it to be compatible with wifi calling and volte.
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Just read the 6p supposedly has tmo wifi calling out of the box. A developer got his hands on a leaked system image and its there.
I hope they bypass carriers in the US and go the Motorola route. Sell them on Amazon, Best Buy and Google Play only.
Hoping they offer the 6P with Jump On Demand on T-Mobile so I can just upgrade to it from my G4 without a hassle.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...nline-only-wont-be-sold-in-us-carrier-stores/
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Thinking of getting this BOGO s7 special from t mobile and switching to verizon at a later date. Would the s7 work on Verizon?
No. They generally do not.
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Tmobile phones only has GSM radios and not CDMA radios which is what Verizon uses. It might work if you put your sim card in there but it probably won't connect at full speed with Verizon's LTE since they have different frequencies.
Thanks guys.
I think the difference here is that the T-Mobile S7 says it supports LTE bands 4 and 13, so I wonder if it could be used as an LTE only device if you just swap SIMs.
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Tmobile phones only has GSM radios and not CDMA radios which is what Verizon uses.
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Holy crap its 2016 and people still post this?!
AkumaX said:
Holy crap its 2016 and people still post this?!
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It's 2016?
People post things?
What's the point of your comment? Sounds like your surprised CDMA and GSM still exists, or that people know they still exist.
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It's 2016?
People post things?
What's the point of your comment? Sounds like your surprised CDMA and GSM still exists, or that people know they still exist.
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I actually mixed it around and thought he asked if Verizon's S7 would work on T-Mobile (which it would)
And of course, the T-Mobile S7 wouldn't work on VZW (because of the missing CDMA radios, of course)
That doesn't exclude all T-Mobile phones -- T-Mobile capable phones such as the iPhone 6/6S, Nexus 5X/6/6P, and Moto X/X2 will work on both T-Mobile and Verizon.
T-mobile s7 will only work as data device. Only band 2 and 4 are supported on T-mobile version and no VoLte support.
Volte is nice but shouldn't be a deal breaker. Verizon didn't update their z3 with volte support until a year after its release.
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Volte is nice but shouldn't be a deal breaker. Verizon didn't update their z3 with volte support until a year after its release.
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But without VoLTE or CDMA you won't get any calls or SMS.
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Curious.... What are people going to do if they get the phone on TMobile and it has no volte? Essential won't tell us so who knows
I thought this was already stated that it would work with all carriers including Tmobile
Yes but that doesn't mean it will support volte, HD or evs
I’m pretty sure it was asked directly if the phone would work with those features and they said if the service supports it then it will work as intended. The only questionable thing was some sprint uses which I forget what it was.
well, my Mi Note 2 supports VoLTE so I have no reason to think that this device will not work accordingly.
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I’m pretty sure it was asked directly if the phone would work with those features and they said if the service supports it then it will work as intended. The only questionable thing was some sprint uses which I forget what it was.
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Essential has to certify the device with Tmobile.
skw5115 said:
well, my Mi Note 2 supports VoLTE so I have no reason to think that this device will not work accordingly.
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On Tmobile USA?
km8j said:
Essential has to certify the device with Tmobile.
On Tmobile USA?
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Yes on TMobile USA. Also, if I'm not mistaken, it's already certified on T-Mobile, just not Verizon.
Only Verizon certification is not complete. At least from the information I have.
I have the phone on T-Mobile and it supports Wi-fi calling, HD Voice, and VoLTE out of the box.
KalenXI said:
I have the phone on T-Mobile and it supports Wi-fi calling, HD Voice, and VoLTE out of the box.
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Where are you able to confirm this on the phone?
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Where are you able to confirm this on the phone?
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For wi-fi calling I just went to an area with wi-fi but no cell signal and confirmed I was able to make a call with it turned on. For VoLTE I just checked that the data didn't drop to 3G or EDGE when I made a call. And for HD Voice I just called another T-Mobile phone and it'll say "HD" next to the call timer if it's an HD Voice call.
Wifi calling turned on today on my phone after not working the past 3 days.
KalenXI said:
I have the phone on T-Mobile and it supports Wi-fi calling, HD Voice, and VoLTE out of the box.
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Any band 12 support?
Charkatak said:
Any band 12 support?
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I'm in Houston Texas, and depending the area where I am sometimes I'm in band 12, but the majority of the time I'm in band 4.
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ndonnine said:
Wifi calling turned on today on my phone after not working the past 3 days.
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Might have been that your APN updated. I had to manually edit the APN to reflect the proper settings and all features have worked since.
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I'm in Houston Texas, and depending the area where I am sometimes I'm in band 12, but the majority of the time I'm in band 4.
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So when your phone is in band 12, have you tried to make a call and stay on that band?
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So when your phone is in band 12, have you tried to make a call and stay on that band?
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I will try next time when I get into band 12 area and let you know.
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So, after all the latest updates, are there any issues with the Essential phone working on TMobile? I was hoping to by one.
shochman said:
So, after all the latest updates, are there any issues with the Essential phone working on TMobile? I was hoping to by one.
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Same here...how is this phone running on T-Mobile Essential users? VoLTE? WiFi Calling working?
3's&7's said:
Same here...how is this phone running on T-Mobile Essential users? VoLTE? WiFi Calling working?
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They both work for me. In Dallas.