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Just finished talking to Verizon and they said that if I buy the phone in store at $199, full retail price for the Moto G, you can use it on a different CDMA carrier! So for all you people wanting to activate the G on Net10/Tracfone/Page Plus, there you go.
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Walliser said:
Which carries are CDMA?
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Net10, tracfone, page plus, I think paygo, and others.
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Just finished talking to Verizon and they said that if I buy the phone in store at $199, full retail price for the Moto G, you can use it on a different CDMA carrier! So for all you people wanting to activate the G on Net10/Tracfone/Page Plus, there you go.
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THANKS!
The problem is where else can we get a CDMA version of moto-g besides BB/Verizon; it is not (yet) available from motorola.com. I just called them and the sale people said they have not info as to when/where/whether or not the CDMA version will be available beside BB/Verizon. And in my case, I'm interested in the tracfone BYOP (as opposed to net10/ST), and it's not at all clear if tracfone BYOP would allow moto-g (although it might be more of a tracfone issue as opposed to a MNVO issue).
I am excited to hear about this possibility. Please keep us informed if you (or anyone) managed to score a full-priced CDMA moto-g (esp the 16G one) and get activated.
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THANKS!
The problem is where else can we get a CDMA version of moto-g besides BB/Verizon; it is not (yet) available from motorola.com. I just called them and the sale people said they have not info as to when/where/whether or not the CDMA version will be available beside BB/Verizon. And in my case, I'm interested in the tracfone BYOP (as opposed to net10/ST), and it's not at all clear if tracfone BYOP would allow moto-g (although it might be more of a tracfone issue as opposed to a MNVO issue).
I am excited to hear about this possibility. Please keep us informed if you (or anyone) managed to score a full-priced CDMA moto-g (esp the 16G one) and get activated.
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I talked to Motorola on their chat and they said that they are planning on selling the CDMA version on motorola.com, presumably without any restrictions. No date yet though. If I had to guess, I would say before the end of the month, but don't quote me on that. As another wanting to activate on Tracfone BYOP, I hope it gets here soon.
This might be a stupid question, but what are the advantages of CDMA? Clearly anything I know wont apply since the last CDMA network over here was shut down in the late 90's.
I've always wondered about the CDMA/GSM war that you lot have in the US. Clearly there must be some upside or GSM would've won already.
ares93 said:
This might be a stupid question, but what are the advantages of CDMA? Clearly anything I know wont apply since the last CDMA network over here was shut down in the late 90's.
I've always wondered about the CDMA/GSM war that you lot have in the US. Clearly there must be some upside or GSM would've won already.
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There's really no advantage, especially since more and more carriers are moving to LTE. LTE kind of unifies GSM and CDMA with SIM cards. However, carriers that don't support LTE yet or ones that reserve LTE for their postpaid devices (Verizon and others) require CDMA devices.
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I talked to Motorola on their chat and they said that they are planning on selling the CDMA version on motorola.com, presumably without any restrictions. No date yet though. If I had to guess, I would say before the end of the month, but don't quote me on that. As another wanting to activate on Tracfone BYOP, I hope it gets here soon.
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I have serious doubts the Moto G will work with tracfone.
mrfeh said:
I have serious doubts the Moto G will work with tracfone.
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Tracfone has a BYOP program now for CDMA 3G phones.
tracfonewireless.com/byop
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Tracfone has a BYOP program now for CDMA 3G phones.
tracfonewireless.com/byop
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Yup, I know. I'd love to use the CDMA Moto G w/ tracfone, so I spent some time interacting with their user support. They would not commit to saying it would work, so I'm assuming it won't. I don't think Verizon will allow it.
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Tracfone has a BYOP program now for CDMA 3G phones.
tracfonewireless.com/byop
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According to posts on the howards forum, except for a couple of "accidental cases" no one has been able to activative a NEW, Droid X2/Droid 3 (which are still on 2.3) CDMA 3g phone on tracfone BYOP. Now, tracfone's BYOP program is still very new and there are lots of quirks to be ironed out, and personally I really look forward to getting one myself, but for now I'm not holding my breath.
Please prove me wrong.
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According to posts on the howards forum, except for a couple of "accidental cases" no one has been able to activative a NEW, Droid X2/Droid 3 (which are still on 2.3) CDMA 3g phone on tracfone BYOP. Now, tracfone's BYOP program is still very new and there are lots of quirks to be ironed out, and personally I really look forward to getting one myself, but for now I'm not holding my breath.
Please prove me wrong.
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I was able to activate a used Samsung Fascinate with this phone number 1-800-876-5753. Don't know if it makes a difference whether it's used or not. You can plug your MEID in this website tracfonewireless.com/byop and it will supposedly tell you if it's compatible or not. Don't trust it though, as their website has never worked right for me.
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Yup, I know. I'd love to use the CDMA Moto G w/ tracfone, so I spent some time interacting with their user support. They would not commit to saying it would work, so I'm assuming it won't. I don't think Verizon will allow it.
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If you buy it at $199, Verizon can't say anything about it because you are under no obligation to them whatsoever, monetary subsidy or contractual.
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If you buy it at $199, Verizon can't say anything about it because you are under no obligation to them whatsoever, monetary subsidy or contractual.
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I'm not aware of a $199 CDMA Moto G. I know they sell the GSM version at that price, which could be used w/ other carriers, but tracfone's byop program is for CDMA only.
I'd want some evidence that it will actually work before I buy the phone, and I haven't seen it yet.
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I'm not aware of a $199 CDMA Moto G. I know they sell the GSM version at that price, which could be used w/ other carriers, but tracfone's byop program is for CDMA only.
I'd want some evidence that it will actually work before I buy the phone, and I haven't seen it yet.
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Dude, check this link.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/new/prepaid/smartphone-plans/moto-g-by-motorola+prepaid/
Notice how it says "Full Retail Price" for $199.00. Again, I confirmed this with a Verizon representative.
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Dude, check this link.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/new/prepaid/smartphone-plans/moto-g-by-motorola+prepaid/
Notice how it says "Full Retail Price" for $199.00. Again, I confirmed this with a Verizon representative.
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Thanks for the link. I clicked on it and noticed that the $199 "full retail price" version still has just 8GB of storage. That is a major bummer/ripe-off (by VZW).
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Dude, check this link.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/new/prepaid/smartphone-plans/moto-g-by-motorola+prepaid/
Notice how it says "Full Retail Price" for $199.00. Again, I confirmed this with a Verizon representative.
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What did you confirm? How can a Verizon rep confirm it will work w/ Tracfone?
I'm waiting for either a) confirmation from a Tracfone rep that it will work or b) confirmation from a Tracfone customer.
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There's really no advantage, especially since more and more carriers are moving to LTE. LTE kind of unifies GSM and CDMA with SIM cards. However, carriers that don't support LTE yet or ones that reserve LTE for their postpaid devices (Verizon and others) require CDMA devices.
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If there is no advantage, why did it survive past 3G in the US when it didn't in most other parts of the the world? Here in Sweden it was abandoned in 1996, I believe. Which puts in on par with 2G GSM. I think there is still one minor carrier that operates mobile broadband on CDMA450, but that's the closest we come to CDMA. No phones. Clearly there was a reason you didn't abandon it when we did. There must've been a reason to continue to develop the infrastructure. However as far as I know, there is no advantage in speed, call quality or coverage.
Admittedly, I have limited experience with CDMA. I've use CDMA phones three times in my life and I've owned exactly one CDMA phone. And not by choice. It was pre-installed in my work truck. Part of some fancy police crap that was useless outside the US.
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Here are some software solutions online where you have to resort to programs that run in the background to monitor wireless activities.
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Think you missed a link there, mate. Thanks though.
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What did you confirm? How can a Verizon rep confirm it will work w/ Tracfone?
I'm waiting for either a) confirmation from a Tracfone rep that it will work or b) confirmation from a Tracfone customer.
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I confirmed it can even be done in the first place. If you want to wait, go ahead. I just thought I would share what I found concerning Verizon's prepaid phones.
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If there is no advantage, why did it survive past 3G in the US when it didn't in most other parts of the the world? Here in Sweden it was abandoned in 1996, I believe. Which puts in on par with 2G GSM. I think there is still one minor carrier that operates mobile broadband on CDMA450, but that's the closest we come to CDMA. No phones. Clearly there was a reason you didn't abandon it when we did. There must've been a reason to continue to develop the infrastructure. However as far as I know, there is no advantage in speed, call quality or coverage.
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I can't speak for the technical aspects, but the largest CDMA carrier here (Verizon), while really evil, does have very good nation-wide coverage, especially outside of major cities. So if you live outside of major cities and/or travel a lot, then CDMA becomes a very attractive (and sometimes, the only) option.
(disclaimer: of course "very good nation-wide coverage" is subjective and there are certainly plenty of holes in the coverage map, so hold your flame please )
Has anyone tried to buy one at full retail price from Verizon? It is my understanding from talking to a verizon sales rep. they are not allowed to and have no means to do so.
Just wanted to post a public service here for y'all.
If you're buying a Nexus 6 and plan to activate it on Verizon, Sprint, or US Cellular, you should either buy it from your carrier of choice or from Google Play. Unless Google pulled off a miracle (unlikely), all the CDMA carriers will only have IMEI numbers whitelisted for devices sold from Google Play and devices sold by that carrier.
In other words, if you're planning to skip Google Play and instead buy one from T-Mobile at full price, then walk over to a Verizon store and activate it, it's not going to happen.
Further, if you're buying a Nexus 6 and expect to be able to activate it on any of the 5 supported carriers at the drop of a hat, buy it from Google Play and don't even consider buying it from a carrier.
If you want a more in-depth explanation, I made a video on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cCT_ifWGLs
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Now that people are getting their Nexus 6s, we've got some more concrete information. Keep in mind that every Nexus 6 sold in the US supports CDMA. The problem is, unless you buy it from specific places, the carriers' systems won't allow activation.
VERIZON:
Verizon is not officially allowing any Nexus 6 on its network yet, however, that's only through official channels.
If you have an already-active line, you can take your SIM card (cut it down to nano size if necessary), put it into any Nexus 6 (no matter where you bought it), and you're good to go. If you need a new line of service, you'll have to activate using an IMEI number of a display device that takes a nano SIM (I'd recommend an HTC One M8 or a DROID Turbo), then once you get your SIM card, put it in your Nexus 6 and you'll be golden. And no, this is not stealing IMEI numbers. The minute that SIM goes into your Nexus 6, the display model's IMEI number is freed up. There's nothing morally questionable about this method at all.
SPRINT:
Sprint will currently allow devices sold from Google Play, Motorola, Sprint, and AT&T. We aren't sure about devices purchased from T-Mobile, or US Cellular. Since Sprint whitelists devices at network level, your MEID must be in the system in order for your device to actually handshake with the network. The Verizon trick of using an already-activated SIM card won't work for Sprint.
US CELLULAR:
USCC will activate devices that they sell, as well as ones purchased from Google Play. I attempted to activate my AT&T-purchased phone on USCC and the MEID (IMEI minus the last digit) was not in their system, therefore it could not be activated. Since USCC, like Sprint, whitelists devices at a network level, the Verizon trick of using an already-activated SIM card will not work. There is presently no word on whether or not USCC will activate phones purchased from Motorola, but I'd bet the answer is no, at least for now.
Great explanation. Thanks. I'll definitely be buying mine from the Play Store for use on Verizon.
So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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You fail at understanding "CDMA".
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So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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So you're implying that ATT is now a CDMA network? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
Given that they don't know where you bought the device..... and the fact that you can buy a device from Google, that's designed and advertised to work on all carriers..... and the fact that there is only one sku for all NA variants.... and they aren't making you choose a carrier when you order one..... This myth is busted. If I buy one from TMobile and take it to Verizon I can simply say I bought it from Google..... In which case they have to honor it because Google is selling it as compatible with all carriers.... Do you see? There isn't a "verizon" N6. If there was you would have to provide your carrier of choice at checkout. Otherwise the idea that they are comparing IMEIs is bunk.
lets say this is all true and u cant do that......what if i get from motorola site?
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Given that they don't know where you bought the device..... and the fact that you can buy a device from Google, that's designed and advertised to work on all carriers..... and the fact that there is only one sku for all NA variants.... and they aren't making you choose a carrier when you order one..... This myth is busted. If I buy one from TMobile and take it to Verizon I can simply say I bought it from Google..... In which case they have to honor it because Google is selling it as compatible with all carriers.... Do you see? There isn't a "verizon" N6. If there was you would have to provide your carrier of choice at checkout. Otherwise the idea that they are comparing IMEIs is bunk.
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seems it was the case for the N5. https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/150262
So it is very likely the same case would happen to the N6.
I planned on buying from the play store anyways.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
Honestly, anything at this point is purely speculation. I don't think you can confidently say that buying from t-mobile means your phone won't work on sprint or vzw...
I just hope vzw hasn't done something really dumb and only recognize IMEI numbers sold through THEM (not even google).
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Further, if you're buying a Nexus 6 and expect to be able to activate it on any of the 5 supported carriers at the drop of a hat, buy it from Google Play and don't even consider buying it from a carrier.
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You fail at understanding "CDMA".
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So you're implying that ATT is now a CDMA network? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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Quite the contrary, I understand CDMA well enough to not consider it if it was the last technology left still in use. (Ex Red subscriber). I totally agree that CDMA providers will need to whitelist the imei#. But by the OP's quote that I highlighted he said "any of the 5 supported carriers". Last I checked, 2 of the 5 supported carriers were GSM. (AT&T and T-Mobile in case you didn't know). I specifically was saying that I call BS that a T-Mobile phone would have any issues what-so-ever starting up and working on a AT&T network. So either you'll are misunderstanding me or I am more tired than I thought and have misread the OP in which case my bad...
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Typo? No longer carrying it?
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6102470
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Typo? No longer carrying it?
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6102470
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I would hope typo....Still showing verizon on here.....https://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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I would hope typo....Still showing verizon on here.....https://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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Yep. I noticed that. Moto site still has cdma supported also. There better be some clarification later today. I belive VZ also told Kellex at droidlife they were going to offer the NexSix?
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Yep. I noticed that. Moto site still has cdma supported also. There better be some clarification later today. I belive VZ also told Kellex at droidlife they were going to offer the NexSix?
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Yea they sure did. I'll definitely be holding off now until I'm 100% sure it's a go on Verizon.
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I would hope typo....Still showing verizon on here.....https://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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I'm wondering if the Play Store units are only compatible with TMo and ATT. Look at the way the carriers are listed on that image. TMo and ATT are above the line with the Play Store link. The CDMA carriers are below the line on their own. That can't be an accident.
Alright guys, time out.
Every Nexus 6 sold in the US, no matter where it's purchased from, will technically work on all 5 carriers. The issue is, the CDMA carriers won't have IMEI numbers white listed for stock sold from other carriers. Based on the IMEI number of your phone, I can tell what color it is, how much storage it has, and where it was sold.
You can activate any Nexus 6 purchased anywhere on AT&T or T-Mobile because they're GSM and don't care where it's from.
You cannot buy a device from anywhere and activate it on Verizon, Sprint, or US Cellular, though. You can lie and tell then you bought it from Play but it won't matter. If you purchased your phone anywhere other than Play or the CDMA carrier you're trying to activate with, they won't have your phone's IMEI in their database, thus no activation.
As for devices purchased from Motorola, I'm not going to speculate because I have no history to go on, but I would imagine that those would be OK as well.
T-Mobile and AT&T will take any Nexus 6 sold anywhere.
Verizon will take a Nexus 6 sold from Play or Verizon.
Sprint will take a Nexus 6 sold from Play or Sprint.
US Cellular will take a Nexus 6 sold from Play or US Cellular.
It doesn't matter that your Nexus 6 that you bought at T-Mobile works fine on al the CDMA carriers (and it will). The CDMA carriers will not activate it purely because the phone won't have a whitelisted IMEI number due to the fact that it wasn't purchased from that carrier or Play. It's no more or less complicated than that.
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Given that they don't know where you bought the device..... and the fact that you can buy a device from Google, that's designed and advertised to work on all carriers..... and the fact that there is only one sku for all NA variants.... and they aren't making you choose a carrier when you order one..... This myth is busted. If I buy one from TMobile and take it to Verizon I can simply say I bought it from Google..... In which case they have to honor it because Google is selling it as compatible with all carriers.... Do you see? There isn't a "verizon" N6. If there was you would have to provide your carrier of choice at checkout. Otherwise the idea that they are comparing IMEIs is bunk.
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That sounds logical, except its not how the cdma carriers work. The iphone 4s (and now the 6 and 6 plus in the US, though sprint has a different model, but verizon uses the same model as att/tmobile) was the same model for cdma and gsm, but it wouldn't work on cdma networks unless originally purchased from a cdma network. Basically they whitelisted imei numbers to only activate iphones that were orignally purchased on cdma networks even though the model was capable of both gsm/cdma.
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That sounds logical, except its not how the cdma carriers work. The iphone 4s (and now the 6 and 6 plus in the US, though sprint has a different model, but verizon uses the same model as att/tmobile) was the same model for cdma and gsm, but it wouldn't work on cdma networks unless originally purchased from a cdma network. Basically they whitelisted imei numbers to only activate iphones that were orignally purchased on cdma networks even though the model was capable of both gsm/cdma.
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I think what a lot of people don't understand is that you can tell by a phones IMEI number where it was purchased, it's color, the storage, and model number. So you're exactly right. The CDMA carriers only whitelist the devices that they sell, and they enforce that via the IMEI number.
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Honestly, anything at this point is purely speculation. I don't think you can confidently say that buying from t-mobile means your phone won't work on sprint or vzw...
I just hope vzw hasn't done something really dumb and only recognize IMEI numbers sold through THEM (not even google).
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The only time I have ever heard of Verizon allowing a non-Verizon or non-Play Store sold device on their network is by someone having an insider connection and white-listing it. I think it's pretty safe to say that if you buy a device from T-mobile, it will not work on Verizon, unless Verizon changes the policy that is has had in place for years.
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So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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An N6 bought from T-Mobile will work on AT&T and vice-versa. The OP was specifically referring to CDMA carriers.
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Anyone know for sure what bands each will have? I know the unlocked will have them all. Will every US version have all of the bands as well? Researching online for some reason right now is not giving me any info. The FCC filling for the unlocked U version is all I've found so far after a day of searching online.
http://www.androidguys.com/2017/03/...s-pass-through-the-fcc-supports-all-carriers/
I think I may have finally figured it out. Samsung hopefully did what moto and apple and nexus has done for years and made them all universal. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this all before but here is what info I'm going off.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/s/_/n-10+11+hv1rp+zq1xa/
T-Mobile
SM-G950UZKATMB
Verizon
SM-G950UZKAVZW
Sprint
SM-G950UZKASPR
AT&T
SM-G950UZKAATT
So the carrier versions are all the same just a different bloat package on all 4.
When an unlocked one arrives again the only difference might be less bloat.
This could be really good news for people who don't like contacts like myself.
Maybe faster updates from Samsung? I mean they can't possibly get slower than they already are can they?
They didn't. I have inside info from Samsung that it's the same as the GS7. They just changed the model numbering scheme to be more universally discernible. I was hoping for one phone with carrier customization but nope... they again made it impossible to get all features and bands on a different carrier.
The good news is the Verizon model doesn't have carrier branding any longer. I confirmed that today by unboxing an actual retail model.
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They didn't. I have inside info from Samsung that it's the same as the GS7. They just changed the model numbering scheme to be more universally discernible. I was hoping for one phone with carrier customization but nope... they again made it impossible to get all features and bands on a different carrier.
The good news is the Verizon model doesn't have carrier branding any longer. I confirmed that today by unboxing an actual retail model.
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So when do they finally release what bands each carrier model supports? Seems odd that no info exists on the phones releasing in 3 weeks. The unlocked model has all its bands published online but no official release date.
I'm curious to know if the Verizon model is the same as the unlocked one.
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Anyone know for sure what bands each will have? I know the unlocked will have them all. Will every US version have all of the bands as well? Researching online for some reason right now is not giving me any info. The FCC filling for the unlocked U version is all I've found so far after a day of searching online.
http://www.androidguys.com/2017/03/...s-pass-through-the-fcc-supports-all-carriers/
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If you get it unlocked, insert a different carrier's sim, factory reset and it will boot with the splash screen and preinstalled apps of the carrier. I've seen the Att to Tmobile and verizon to att swap
That's interesting . I will try that when I get it. But I'm not sure that would effect the boot logo? I'm imagining it would stay the same, no?
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I think I may have finally figured it out. Samsung hopefully did what moto and apple and nexus has done for years and made them all universal. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this all before but here is what info I'm going off.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/s/_/n-10+11+hv1rp+zq1xa/
T-Mobile
SM-G950UZKATMB
Verizon
SM-G950UZKAVZW
Sprint
SM-G950UZKASPR
AT&T
SM-G950UZKAATT
So the carrier versions are all the same just a different bloat package on all 4.
When an unlocked one arrives again the only difference might be less bloat.
This could be really good news for people who don't like contacts like myself.
Maybe faster updates from Samsung? I mean they can't possibly get slower than they already are can they?
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Did You check AT&T or T-Mobile have cdma support if they do they you are right if they don't may be carrier are going to release updates
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They didn't. I have inside info from Samsung that it's the same as the GS7. They just changed the model numbering scheme to be more universally discernible. I was hoping for one phone with carrier customization but nope... they again made it impossible to get all features and bands on a different carrier.
The good news is the Verizon model doesn't have carrier branding any longer. I confirmed that today by unboxing an actual retail model.
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I think your wrong. If you go check tmobiles website the software version is G950USQU1AQC9. There is nothing mentioning tmobile specifically there. I think that they will all come with carrier animation BUT be uninstallable.
I would hope so but I received this info from a Samsung Knox Development Manager who is an internal employee. I am crossing my fingers he is full of it.
I've got the bands for the AT&T and Verizon phones. Those companies had the decency to post the info online. Samsung chat was useless and told me some BS as usual about not knowing until the phone was released. Is it possible the T-Mobile bands listed on the website are the only bands it supports? 2,4,5,12?
If the websites are accurate and just considering bands alone it looks like the AT&T one has the best support.
I'm really Curious about exynos working on Verizon and can't find any info. I'm in Korea for another 8 months and was hoping to get the Korea model S8 and take it back to the states and use it on my Verizon network. I have a feeling it won't work just like the S7 did not.
The s8 Will be just like the note 7 was.... Internals are EXACTLY the same, just different SW, and can be flashed with any carrier SW to "make" them that carriers phone.
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The s8 Will be just like the note 7 was.... Internals are EXACTLY the same, just different SW, and can be flashed with any carrier SW to "make" them that carriers phone.
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Thats what I was thinking based on the 1 and only FCC filing with just the 'U' and no other carrier letters.
Bad news all 4 carriers support slightly different bands just like always
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=71771523
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Bad news all 4 carriers support slightly different bands just like always
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=71771523
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It's bs...Trust me. Note 7 on Samsung website showed the same. A simple flash of carrier FW makes it whatever FW is on it.
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It's bs...Trust me. Note 7 on Samsung website showed the same. A simple flash of carrier FW makes it whatever FW is on it.
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Does that mean that if say I pre-order the AT&T S8+ from Best Buy because I have in store credit and place a T-Mobile sim, it can possibly work?
nexus.knightly said:
Does that mean that if say I pre-order the AT&T S8+ from Best Buy because I have in store credit and place a T-Mobile sim, it can possibly work?
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Flash it with TMO SW, and it will be a "TMO" phone.
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Flash it with TMO SW, and it will be a "TMO" phone.
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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I think the best course of action for me would be to wait for the Unlocked version of the S8 to arrive in May, hopefully.
Is anyone going to try and see how the new phone works on sprint? I'm thinking about it.
I saw it has all the bands compatible. Curious if anyone is going to try this.
i have sprint, and want it... waiting for the 128gb to be available again...
edit: chatted with oneplus about sprint compatibility, got this answer : As for that concern, we still don't have official information though you may just wait for further updates from OnePlus or you can refer to our Official website.
idk about 600 for a phone that might work, stuck with about a year left on a 2 year contract...
still waiting to get the sprint chat to show on the site lol.
k4m4kz1 said:
i have sprint, and want it... waiting for the 128gb to be available again...
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So your going to give it a shot also?
realbananA said:
So your going to give it a shot also?
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see my edit above lol
My concern would be that by all bands, they are talking about GSM. Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. I would hold off if I was on either of those carriers.
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mikeprius said:
I saw it has all the bands compatible. Curious if anyone is going to try this.
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This isn't quite correct. Verizon uses primarily Band 0 CDMA which the OnePlus 5 (And 3/3T) have included. They all lack Band 1 CDMA which is what Sprint primarily uses and Verizon uses in some major markets. Sprint also uses Band 10 CDMA. For Verizon, you can simply pop the SIM in and get service, but Sprint activation is always tied to the device and not the SIM. Sprint only allows approved devices on their network which is the biggest obstacle.
So your service would not be optimal for 1X/3G even if it were activated on Sprint. You'd most likely get no signal at all. The device does support all the LTE Bands, but while there's CDMA Support the OP5 doesn't have any of the CDMA Bands that Sprint utilizes. If you were ever able to get the device manually added in the system or Sprint approved the device on the network, then it would be essentially an LTE-Only device. Note that this might be handy or interesting in a Dual SIM set-up but probably not very optimal for an ordinary Sprint user.
MrMeeseeks said:
My concern would be that by all bands, they are talking about GSM. Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. I would hold off if I was on either of those carriers.
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It does work on Verizon as did the 3/3T. Verizon uses Band 0 in most of the country, but they do use Band 1 in some major cities, so it's not optimal. The OP3/3T/5 supports Band 2/4 but not Band 13 which is the primary LTE Band for Verizon. People have gotten 1X/3G/LTE working on Verizon, but it's not optimal due to the band support. There also may have been issues switching between CDMA and LTE but haven't checked recently for updates. If going for Dual SIM then it may work well for some people's needs.
According to this site the phone is fully compatible with Sprint then Verizon, I saw some post where people put Verizon sims and they're not able to get LTE but according to this site it should with Sprint.
Now like the comment above, Sprint will have to approve the phone in their system since they have to activate the phone, yeah it sucks but it's how evil Sprint works, Sometimes they have to add the IMEI number of the phone to put it in their system to activate.
Try and see what they said. When Google released phones that were compatible with Sprint, they did activate the phone you bought through google so this can be the same
gypsy214 said:
According to this site the phone is fully compatible with Sprint then Verizon, I saw some post where people put Verizon sims and they're not able to get LTE but according to this site it should with Sprint.
Now like the comment above, Sprint will have to approve the phone in their system since they have to activate the phone, yeah it sucks but it's how evil Sprint works, Sometimes they have to add the IMEI number of the phone to put it in their system to activate.
Try and see what they said. When Google released phones that were compatible with Sprint, they did activate the phone you bought through google so this can be the same
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It has zero support for CDMA (1X/3G) on Sprint since Sprint uses Band 1 and Band 10 CDMA. It would be unlikely that Sprint would whitelist the OP5 or manually add them to the database, especially considering they never added the ZTE Axon 7 which had full support for Sprint. Would certainly be pretty awesome if they did so and would benefit anyone intending to use the OP5 as an LTE-Only device.
I got the OP5 today and poped my sim in and got LTE and the carrier ID on the sim carrier information. But i have to wait and see if i can get them to add the device into the system. Which i will be on the phone with them all day I'm sure. But I'm going to give it a shot at the least. So far the phone seems awesome.
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I got the OP5 today and poped my sim in and got LTE and the carrier ID on the sim carrier information. But i have to wait and see if i can get them to add the device into the system. Which i will be on the phone with them all day I'm sure. But I'm going to give it a shot at the least. So far the phone seems awesome.
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We're rooting for ya! Get it... ROOTing...
gmac24 said:
I got the OP5 today and poped my sim in and got LTE and the carrier ID on the sim carrier information. But i have to wait and see if i can get them to add the device into the system. Which i will be on the phone with them all day I'm sure. But I'm going to give it a shot at the least. So far the phone seems awesome.
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Any luck in getting it activated?
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Any luck in getting it activated?
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So far no. But today brings a new day. lol not giving up just yet. The guys I have talked to last night with Sprint tech support, told me to go into the store and get a new sim and that should fix my problem. They are saying that because I'm coming from a IPhone a new sim card is required. I will update tonight when I get done.
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So far no. But today brings a new day. lol not giving up just yet. The guys I have talked to last night with Sprint tech support, told me to go into the store and get a new sim and that should fix my problem. They are saying that because I'm coming from a IPhone a new sim card is required. I will update tonight when I get done.
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Pls do I need a new phone
gmac24 said:
So far no. But today brings a new day. lol not giving up just yet. The guys I have talked to last night with Sprint tech support, told me to go into the store and get a new sim and that should fix my problem. They are saying that because I'm coming from a IPhone a new sim card is required. I will update tonight when I get done.
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Any luck with new sprint sim card? I was not able to activate OnePlus 5 on Sprint Service. Here is comments from Sprint customer care:-
Laine P. : I totally understand how much you wanted to activate your phone. However, to activate it here in our network, I would suggest to contact back oneplus company to let the device be activated so that it will be loaded here in our system.
When I contact OnePlus they said "We are not supporting Sprint and Verizon"
I will be watching this very closely.
Harjinder.Sidhu said:
Any luck with new sprint sim card? I was not able to activate OnePlus 5 on Sprint Service. Here is comments from Sprint customer care:-
Laine P. : I totally understand how much you wanted to activate your phone. However, to activate it here in our network, I would suggest to contact back oneplus company to let the device be activated so that it will be loaded here in our system.
When I contact OnePlus they said "We are not supporting Sprint and Verizon"
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Well I will have my final answer today. I go back into the store and get my sim card and pop it in and see what happens if this doesn't work. Bye OP5 :crying:
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Well I will have my final answer today. I go back into the store and get my sim card and pop it in and see what happens if this doesn't work. Bye OP5 :crying:
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I'm guessing it didn't work?
realbananA said:
I'm guessing it didn't work?
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No it didn't. :crying: I spent several days and driving to different stores and getting different stories from sprint tech support, but I expected that.
gmac24 said:
No it didn't. :crying: I spent several days and driving to different stores and getting different stories from sprint tech support, but I expected that.
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Disappointing to hear. Thanks for giving it a try and letting us know and sharing the info
Has anyone been able to use an ESim with Verizon? I can't seem to get it working, I called Verizon twice, was told it will work once (but they couldn't get it to) was told it won't work the next time, and pixel support said it might work in a couple months. Just wondering if anyone else has had any luck or more definitive answers. Thanks
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Has anyone been able to use an ESim with Verizon? I can't seem to get it working, I called Verizon twice, was told it will work once (but they couldn't get it to) was told it won't work the next time, and pixel support said it might work in a couple months. Just wondering if anyone else has had any luck or more definitive answers. Thanks
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eSim does not work on Verizon unless you have an iPhone. Do the Verizon branded P4s even have an eSim available for any carrier activation? Up until now they didn't. Verizon disables eSim on their phones up to and including the 3a.
Yes the Verizon P4 esim is available and not deactivated. I have not tried it yet but was planning on going into a store to see. ?
bono81310 said:
Yes the Verizon P4 esim is available and not deactivated. I have not tried it yet but was planning on going into a store to see. ?
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I'd be really curious to know what you found out.
I have an unlocked P4 and was a no go. It's more on VZW end until they allow it now. Bummer?
Edit.. hmm @bono81310 Anyway good try.. Verizon doesn't care and they won't do a thing about it. Apple demanded it or they couldn't sell their phones. Yeah I know it's frustrating.
Well I solved my issue this morning by porting my Verizon over to fi. It's funny that they will sell the phone even though they don't fully support it, but I've been burned by them in the past via the locked down phones they sell.
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Well I solved my issue this morning by porting my Verizon over to fi. It's funny that they will sell the phone even though they don't fully support it, but I've been burned by them in the past via the locked down phones they sell.
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Can't blame you for that. I have Fi too and it's a pretty good service. I need it for my business line. Where did you buy the device, just curious?
bobby janow said:
Can't blame you for that. I have Fi too and it's a pretty good service. I need it for my business line. Where did you buy the device, just curious?
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I got it from Google, got my pixel 2 from Verizon when I was in a bind and learned it was locked down the hard way....
So if I purchased an unlocked p4, can I use fi esim and vz sim together?
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So if I purchased an unlocked p4, can I use fi esim and vz sim together?
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Yes.
I'm currently not In a "supported" country.
"Tap the + icon next to Mobile network."
The plus icon is not present.
Is this something the carrier has to support?
My carrier supports Apple iPhone esims.
Constructively speaking would I have to approach my carrier to get this to work?
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I bought a Verizon bad esn Pixel 3 XL off ebay and i was able to use it overseas (outside usa) on GSM network without problems.
If I buy a Verizon Pixel 4 with bad esn, will it be same or it will be locked to Verizon?
If no, anyone know how much unlock will cost?
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I bought a Verizon bad esn Pixel 3 XL off ebay and i was able to use it overseas (outside usa) on GSM network without problems.
If I buy a Verizon Pixel 4 with bad esn, will it be same or it will be locked to Verizon?
If no, anyone know how much unlock will cost?
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What are you talking about? Are you serious?
bobby janow said:
What are you talking about? Are you serious?
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Are you trolling me or what?
Sorry if I'm off topic but I'm looking for answers
stanley08 said:
Are you trolling me or what?
Sorry if I'm off topic but I'm looking for answers
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I don't troll. Answers to what? If you have a bad esn? Stop playing games.
Can't post the URL, I guess ?.... But last month, Verizon AT&T and GSMA agreed to end the eSim restrictions to avoid a class action lawsuit..
https://www.phonearena.com/news/DOJ...to-collusion-by-Verizon-ATT-and-GSMA_id120753
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Will this agreement force Verizon to unlock the eSim feature on our phones?
I tested T-Mobile network using network pass. Esim worked fine, however since that I've had issues with my phone dropping service unless I'm sitting still in the center of town. Prolly unrelated but who knows yet.