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[Q] Nexus 4 & Carries

I am planning on picking up a Nexus 4 today and sell my Verizon Galaxy Nexus but i'm not sure about the Carrier , TMobile is were i want to pick it up from . Does it matter what carrier it's on for it to be able to flash Ubuntu and other rooms i see in the nexus thread i don't see a thread for a specific carrier like the Galaxy Nexus .

jawonder said:
I am planning on picking up a Nexus 4 today and sell my Verizon Galaxy Nexus but i'm not sure about the Carrier , TMobile is were i want to pick it up from . Does it matter what carrier it's on for it to be able to flash Ubuntu and other rooms i see in the nexus thread i don't see a thread for a specific carrier like the Galaxy Nexus .
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Well, the only carrier that actually carries the phone I believe is T-Mobile, but you can use it on AT&T or any other GSM carrier, I'd assume.
It doesn't matter which one you're on for flashing ROMs and anything else really since there's only 1 phone. With the Galaxy Nexus you actually had like 4 different phones. GSM/LTE and then even in the LTE versions you had the Verizon phone and the Sprint phone.

SefEXE said:
Well, the only carrier that actually carries the phone I believe is T-Mobile, but you can use it on AT&T or any other GSM carrier, I'd assume.
It doesn't matter which one you're on for flashing ROMs and anything else really since there's only 1 phone. With the Galaxy Nexus you actually had like 4 different phones. GSM/LTE and then even in the LTE versions you had the Verizon phone and the Sprint phone.
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Ok so i'll pick it up from TMobile then , Thanks

jawonder said:
Ok so i'll pick it up from TMobile then , Thanks
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Good luck! They have it for free or some kind of discount this weekend, right? :good:

At Tmobile you either lock into a two year contract or pay $150 more than you would buying it from the Play Store.
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chrisrozon said:
At Tmobile you either lock into a two year contract or pay $150 more than you would buying it from the Play Store.
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Yeah i saw the two year contract, i've always like contract because it gives you all the services that are available by the carrier .

SefEXE said:
Good luck! They have it for free or some kind of discount this weekend, right? :good:
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I just ordered it for free online well not free still have to pay $50 .

[All CDMA Carriers] Before Buying a Nexus 6, Consider Where You Buy It

Just wanted to post a public service here for y'all.
If you're buying a Nexus 6 and plan to activate it on Verizon, Sprint, or US Cellular, you should either buy it from your carrier of choice or from Google Play. Unless Google pulled off a miracle (unlikely), all the CDMA carriers will only have IMEI numbers whitelisted for devices sold from Google Play and devices sold by that carrier.
In other words, if you're planning to skip Google Play and instead buy one from T-Mobile at full price, then walk over to a Verizon store and activate it, it's not going to happen.
Further, if you're buying a Nexus 6 and expect to be able to activate it on any of the 5 supported carriers at the drop of a hat, buy it from Google Play and don't even consider buying it from a carrier.
If you want a more in-depth explanation, I made a video on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cCT_ifWGLs
UPDATE
Now that people are getting their Nexus 6s, we've got some more concrete information. Keep in mind that every Nexus 6 sold in the US supports CDMA. The problem is, unless you buy it from specific places, the carriers' systems won't allow activation.
VERIZON:
Verizon is not officially allowing any Nexus 6 on its network yet, however, that's only through official channels.
If you have an already-active line, you can take your SIM card (cut it down to nano size if necessary), put it into any Nexus 6 (no matter where you bought it), and you're good to go. If you need a new line of service, you'll have to activate using an IMEI number of a display device that takes a nano SIM (I'd recommend an HTC One M8 or a DROID Turbo), then once you get your SIM card, put it in your Nexus 6 and you'll be golden. And no, this is not stealing IMEI numbers. The minute that SIM goes into your Nexus 6, the display model's IMEI number is freed up. There's nothing morally questionable about this method at all.
SPRINT:
Sprint will currently allow devices sold from Google Play, Motorola, Sprint, and AT&T. We aren't sure about devices purchased from T-Mobile, or US Cellular. Since Sprint whitelists devices at network level, your MEID must be in the system in order for your device to actually handshake with the network. The Verizon trick of using an already-activated SIM card won't work for Sprint.
US CELLULAR:
USCC will activate devices that they sell, as well as ones purchased from Google Play. I attempted to activate my AT&T-purchased phone on USCC and the MEID (IMEI minus the last digit) was not in their system, therefore it could not be activated. Since USCC, like Sprint, whitelists devices at a network level, the Verizon trick of using an already-activated SIM card will not work. There is presently no word on whether or not USCC will activate phones purchased from Motorola, but I'd bet the answer is no, at least for now.

Great explanation. Thanks. I'll definitely be buying mine from the Play Store for use on Verizon.

So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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chipstien said:
So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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You fail at understanding "CDMA".

chipstien said:
So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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So you're implying that ATT is now a CDMA network? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.

Given that they don't know where you bought the device..... and the fact that you can buy a device from Google, that's designed and advertised to work on all carriers..... and the fact that there is only one sku for all NA variants.... and they aren't making you choose a carrier when you order one..... This myth is busted. If I buy one from TMobile and take it to Verizon I can simply say I bought it from Google..... In which case they have to honor it because Google is selling it as compatible with all carriers.... Do you see? There isn't a "verizon" N6. If there was you would have to provide your carrier of choice at checkout. Otherwise the idea that they are comparing IMEIs is bunk.

lets say this is all true and u cant do that......what if i get from motorola site?

neyenlives said:
Given that they don't know where you bought the device..... and the fact that you can buy a device from Google, that's designed and advertised to work on all carriers..... and the fact that there is only one sku for all NA variants.... and they aren't making you choose a carrier when you order one..... This myth is busted. If I buy one from TMobile and take it to Verizon I can simply say I bought it from Google..... In which case they have to honor it because Google is selling it as compatible with all carriers.... Do you see? There isn't a "verizon" N6. If there was you would have to provide your carrier of choice at checkout. Otherwise the idea that they are comparing IMEIs is bunk.
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seems it was the case for the N5. https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/150262
So it is very likely the same case would happen to the N6.

I planned on buying from the play store anyways.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

Honestly, anything at this point is purely speculation. I don't think you can confidently say that buying from t-mobile means your phone won't work on sprint or vzw...
I just hope vzw hasn't done something really dumb and only recognize IMEI numbers sold through THEM (not even google).

oldblue910 said:
Further, if you're buying a Nexus 6 and expect to be able to activate it on any of the 5 supported carriers at the drop of a hat, buy it from Google Play and don't even consider buying it from a carrier.
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elkay said:
You fail at understanding "CDMA".
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f1ip said:
So you're implying that ATT is now a CDMA network? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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Quite the contrary, I understand CDMA well enough to not consider it if it was the last technology left still in use. (Ex Red subscriber). I totally agree that CDMA providers will need to whitelist the imei#. But by the OP's quote that I highlighted he said "any of the 5 supported carriers". Last I checked, 2 of the 5 supported carriers were GSM. (AT&T and T-Mobile in case you didn't know). I specifically was saying that I call BS that a T-Mobile phone would have any issues what-so-ever starting up and working on a AT&T network. So either you'll are misunderstanding me or I am more tired than I thought and have misread the OP in which case my bad...
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Typo? No longer carrying it?
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6102470

halon17 said:
Typo? No longer carrying it?
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6102470
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I would hope typo....Still showing verizon on here.....https://www.google.com/nexus/6/

funkyboy1281 said:
I would hope typo....Still showing verizon on here.....https://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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Yep. I noticed that. Moto site still has cdma supported also. There better be some clarification later today. I belive VZ also told Kellex at droidlife they were going to offer the NexSix?

halon17 said:
Yep. I noticed that. Moto site still has cdma supported also. There better be some clarification later today. I belive VZ also told Kellex at droidlife they were going to offer the NexSix?
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Yea they sure did. I'll definitely be holding off now until I'm 100% sure it's a go on Verizon.

funkyboy1281 said:
I would hope typo....Still showing verizon on here.....https://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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I'm wondering if the Play Store units are only compatible with TMo and ATT. Look at the way the carriers are listed on that image. TMo and ATT are above the line with the Play Store link. The CDMA carriers are below the line on their own. That can't be an accident.

Alright guys, time out.
Every Nexus 6 sold in the US, no matter where it's purchased from, will technically work on all 5 carriers. The issue is, the CDMA carriers won't have IMEI numbers white listed for stock sold from other carriers. Based on the IMEI number of your phone, I can tell what color it is, how much storage it has, and where it was sold.
You can activate any Nexus 6 purchased anywhere on AT&T or T-Mobile because they're GSM and don't care where it's from.
You cannot buy a device from anywhere and activate it on Verizon, Sprint, or US Cellular, though. You can lie and tell then you bought it from Play but it won't matter. If you purchased your phone anywhere other than Play or the CDMA carrier you're trying to activate with, they won't have your phone's IMEI in their database, thus no activation.
As for devices purchased from Motorola, I'm not going to speculate because I have no history to go on, but I would imagine that those would be OK as well.
T-Mobile and AT&T will take any Nexus 6 sold anywhere.
Verizon will take a Nexus 6 sold from Play or Verizon.
Sprint will take a Nexus 6 sold from Play or Sprint.
US Cellular will take a Nexus 6 sold from Play or US Cellular.
It doesn't matter that your Nexus 6 that you bought at T-Mobile works fine on al the CDMA carriers (and it will). The CDMA carriers will not activate it purely because the phone won't have a whitelisted IMEI number due to the fact that it wasn't purchased from that carrier or Play. It's no more or less complicated than that.
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neyenlives said:
Given that they don't know where you bought the device..... and the fact that you can buy a device from Google, that's designed and advertised to work on all carriers..... and the fact that there is only one sku for all NA variants.... and they aren't making you choose a carrier when you order one..... This myth is busted. If I buy one from TMobile and take it to Verizon I can simply say I bought it from Google..... In which case they have to honor it because Google is selling it as compatible with all carriers.... Do you see? There isn't a "verizon" N6. If there was you would have to provide your carrier of choice at checkout. Otherwise the idea that they are comparing IMEIs is bunk.
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That sounds logical, except its not how the cdma carriers work. The iphone 4s (and now the 6 and 6 plus in the US, though sprint has a different model, but verizon uses the same model as att/tmobile) was the same model for cdma and gsm, but it wouldn't work on cdma networks unless originally purchased from a cdma network. Basically they whitelisted imei numbers to only activate iphones that were orignally purchased on cdma networks even though the model was capable of both gsm/cdma.

munkle said:
That sounds logical, except its not how the cdma carriers work. The iphone 4s (and now the 6 and 6 plus in the US, though sprint has a different model, but verizon uses the same model as att/tmobile) was the same model for cdma and gsm, but it wouldn't work on cdma networks unless originally purchased from a cdma network. Basically they whitelisted imei numbers to only activate iphones that were orignally purchased on cdma networks even though the model was capable of both gsm/cdma.
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I think what a lot of people don't understand is that you can tell by a phones IMEI number where it was purchased, it's color, the storage, and model number. So you're exactly right. The CDMA carriers only whitelist the devices that they sell, and they enforce that via the IMEI number.
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tsy87 said:
Honestly, anything at this point is purely speculation. I don't think you can confidently say that buying from t-mobile means your phone won't work on sprint or vzw...
I just hope vzw hasn't done something really dumb and only recognize IMEI numbers sold through THEM (not even google).
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The only time I have ever heard of Verizon allowing a non-Verizon or non-Play Store sold device on their network is by someone having an insider connection and white-listing it. I think it's pretty safe to say that if you buy a device from T-mobile, it will not work on Verizon, unless Verizon changes the policy that is has had in place for years.
chipstien said:
So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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An N6 bought from T-Mobile will work on AT&T and vice-versa. The OP was specifically referring to CDMA carriers.
EDIT: Ninja'd by oldblue910

What carriers will this be compatible with?

I cannot find any carrier info on either this phone or the OnePlus One. Also, is this going to be some insider invite only thing?
Thanks.

I'm almost sure that the OP2 will work on all carriers like the one
and as for the "invite only thing" - yes, you will be able to buy it only with an invite (source)

I think they're unlocked for any carrier. Until last week I saw you could buy the oneplus one without an invite only on tuesdays. And now it says no invite needed, but that's just because the 2 is going out soon. I dont know think it will be the same for the 2 at least for a few months..

Like the OPO and Nexuses, the 1+2 will work on any carrier. If anything it will have even more support for worldwide LTE.

I'd be willing to bet it won't be in CDMA carriers.

saantiago said:
I'd be willing to bet it won't be in CDMA carriers.
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Was the OPOne able to be on Verizon or Sprint?

89titanium said:
Was the OPOne able to be on Verizon or Sprint?
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No. The SD 801 is compatible with CDMA though, so I don't know why it never was, at least for Sprint. Verizon will never allow any dev friendly phones.

Don't think you will be able to have this on VZW or Sprint, they don't like to have phones that they themselves are not selling you. You'd have to get the ESN added, and they don't do that.

89titanium said:
I cannot find any carrier info on either this phone or the OnePlus One. Also, is this going to be some insider invite only thing?
Thanks.
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Maybe OnePlus 2 will be unlocked as OnePlus One.

The OP2 will be unlocked as it is not sold with a particular carrier. Don't expect CDMA though, that requires a different chipset (and a small company like OnePlus are going to make a few variations as possible).
Hopefully it will have the 800MHz band that the OP1 so severely lacked - it is one of the more common and the only widespread LTE band in the UK

saantiago said:
No. The SD 801 is compatible with CDMA though, so I don't know why it never was, at least for Sprint. Verizon will never allow any dev friendly phones.
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Not true. The Nexus 5X works great on Verizon. I think the 6P might also. I do not have that phone.

I'm looking to get the 1+2 I live n the US I have At&t does it fully support the At&t band's ?
Thanks
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ATT Wifi calling and LTE Band 30

Two questions,
1 - Does the Nexus 6P have LTE Band 30?
2 - Does the Nexus 6P support the new Wifi calling feature on ATT.
CC

As per GSM arena it does support band 30 http://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_nexus_6p-7588.php.
As for WiFi calling, I hope so.
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cc999 said:
Two questions,
1 - Does the Nexus 6P have LTE Band 30?
2 - Does the Nexus 6P support the new Wifi calling feature on ATT.
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I posted the WIFI calling question on the ATT Forums. This is the response,
wifi calling will only be available on phones purchased thru ATT is what has been said. You cant get HDvoice on non ATT phones either nor the nexus 6 which ATT did sell. You can bring your own phone but ATT is not going to make some features available to you to use.

I believe the only device that supports wifi calling on AT&T is the iPhone at the moment..
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graffixnyc said:
I believe the only device that supports wifi calling on AT&T is the iPhone at the moment..
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boooo go home iPhone...
I moved to Project Fi cuz I'm sick of AT&T and their bs. Hopefully VoLTE will be available soon this is day one with Fi and so far so good

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I believe the only device that supports wifi calling on AT&T is the iPhone at the moment..
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So even though you can buy an iphone thru apple and get it actyivated on att....you get the all att's supported feature even though the phone wasnt bought from att? However the google phone does not get the same support? That would be discrimination wouldnt it?
Actually.....I just called and the CSR atteampt to manually enter the provision for wifi calling and HD voice and she said it didnt work because it said my phone wasnt capable of the wifi calling feature. And the way it works she claimed is you provision my phone to do wifi calling and it will automatically enable the HD voice feature in tandem....but it wouldnt go thru

Since my Samsung Galaxy Note 5 was updated to MM OTA with AT&T it now has wifi calling and HD voice. I was wondering if now since my Nexus 6P was updated to Nougat and it has everything needed for Wifi calling and HD voice is there a way to enable them now on AT&T?

JGuinan007 said:
Since my Samsung Galaxy Note 5 was updated to MM OTA with AT&T it now has wifi calling and HD voice. I was wondering if now since my Nexus 6P was updated to Nougat and it has everything needed for Wifi calling and HD voice is there a way to enable them now on AT&T?
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No.

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No.
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Are you sure about that?

JGuinan007 said:
Are you sure about that?
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Yes.

WiFi Calling and Volte

Anyone know how to enable this? Im not on Verizon, using Three network in UK.

Shah1989 said:
Anyone know how to enable this? Im not on Verizon, using Three network in UK.
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I cant activate it on Verizon Prepaid, I spent a decent amount of time on the phone with customer service and it appears it is setup to be a Verizon post paid account exclusive.

LeeMullinsII said:
I cant activate it on Verizon Prepaid, I spent a decent amount of time on the phone with customer service and it appears it is setup to be a Verizon post paid account exclusive.
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I use mine on Verizon prepaid and it works just fine with VoLTE

snoopy1e11 said:
I use mine on Verizon prepaid and it works just fine with VoLTE
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Yes it does now, but was not available until Verizon added it to the prepaid line up of devices, but in that same note I mentioned it because the OP wanted it on a different network and Verizon had it blocked in the same network so I doubt it would work without root

Shah1989 said:
Anyone know how to enable this? Im not on Verizon, using Three network in UK.
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It wont be available for us. It can be enabled only with Verizon sim card installed and used Im afraid. Big shame because EE in UK also has Wifi call and HD call available but not on this device. Im selling this scrap because lack of Wifi Call.
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