Well today I installed the slyle potrait app which Sony finaly released, in two minutes I got the the notorious message saying that the camera will close if it keeps getting warm and after one more minute it closed. Could it be that the one to blame for the overheating is the camera software itself because I've never seen the message before and I've done some serious usage of the camera. I'll leave a link to the playstore so you can test it on your own!!! Any other thoughts would be much appreciated.
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.android.addoncamera.styleportrait
I was thinking install that app today... After your experience I won't install it. At least not for now.
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Its not only this app problem. Open camera and go to Effects, play with it for few sec and you gonna get message that phone is to hot...
Its actually hilarious that most of companies had time to create window with info about to "hot phone", instead of spending this few minutes thinking: "wait... we just created phone and app that get really hot making it no usable at all... maybe we should fix that? hmmm?"
I would not be mad if companies would spend this 2-3 months getting their balls together and make optimized phone and apps, instead of covering their failure behind window like "phone need to cool down... closing app"
Sad part is that its not only Sony problem, most of phones have this... No one give a flying crap to think about it and fix it...
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I was thinking install that app today... After your experience I won't install it. At least not for now.
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I didn't say that the app is not good actually the effects are amazing but it is so frustrating that after 3 minutes the app closes
It never occurred to you that these apps are heavily using CPU and/or GPU?
Also, I did a heatsink mod (copper plating) inside my phone - kind of helps with heat still yet to post the photo guide though, will do it soon!
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CosmicDan said:
It never occurred to you that these apps are heavily using CPU and/or GPU?
Also, I did a heatsink mod (copper plating) inside my phone - kind of helps with heat still yet to post the photo guide though, will do it soon!
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i use creative effects all the time and i never had any problem with the camera closing because of heat (you cant be serious that style potrait uses that much the cpu)
My back panel is unglued because of heat(i would like to say that it's joke but nope) so im gonna change it next month so I would like to se how you made that heatsink mod.
I did a lot of such mods in netbooks and laptops, but phone don't have much room for such mods, so I'm really curious about that...
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My back panel is unglued because of heat(i would like to say that it's joke but nope) so im gonna change it next month so I would like to se how you made that heatsink mod.
I did a lot of such mods in netbooks and laptops, but phone don't have much room for such mods, so I'm really curious about that...
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I will share when I find the time to write it my back cover never came loose but I definitely noticed heat fatigue on both the SoC and... Another chip, can't remember what it was - maybe the radio (it was a semi-large chip, second biggest after the SoC). Photos are on my other phone and its flat at the moment, I'll find out when I actually do the guide and look at mainboard diagrams again
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i use creative effects all the time and i never had any problem with the camera closing because of heat (you cant be serious that style potrait uses that much the cpu)
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Why can't I be serious? Fact is that the SoC is one die containing CPU, GPU and RAM. In normal circumstances these are the highest consumers of power and generators of heat. An exception is if you've got heavy traffic on radio though, and I mean max bandwidth on a LTE or 802.11ac connection, for an extended period of time; I doubt it was that in this case. Or maybe it was...?
Also as a developer I know that software can have bugs that cause unnecessary CPU or GPU usage. You're just speculating here without hard evidence... If you can monitor CPU/GPU clock speeds and/or temperatures while this happens and show us that it's not high, then I will stand corrected.
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Why can't I be serious? Fact is that the SoC is one die containing CPU, GPU and RAM. In normal circumstances these are the highest consumers of power and generators of heat. An exception is if you've got heavy traffic on radio though, and I mean max bandwidth on a LTE or 802.11ac connection, for an extended period of time; I doubt it was that in this case. Or maybe it was...?
Also as a developer I know that software can have bugs that cause unnecessary CPU or GPU usage. You're just speculating here without hard evidence... If you can monitor CPU/GPU clock speeds and/or temperatures while this happens and show us that it's not high, then I will stand corrected.
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well i tested it and it seems you were right but still i cant get it, why when both apps (creative effects and style potrait) use around 80% of the CPU, creative effects takes around 14-15 minutes to close and the style potrait just 2 minutes??
Maybe it's a bug. Is this a brand new app? I don't run stock sorry, not up to speed on the Sony specific stuff.
It could also be a simple case of neglect for our ol' Z.
Either way, cross your fingers and hope it gets solved in an update. It certainly sounds like it shouldn't be working so intensively.
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Maybe it's a bug. Is this a brand new app? I don't run stock sorry, not up to speed on the Sony specific stuff.
It could also be a simple case of neglect for our ol' Z.
Either way, cross your fingers and hope it gets solved in an update. It certainly sounds like it shouldn't be working so intensively.
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no its not new and its not a case of neglect because i had flashed the app to my phone quite some time ago
But your OP says you installed some app which Sony just released?
I meant neglect from Sony; ever since KitKat our devices have had issues. But, on that note, how does (whatever old app you're talking about) working fine in the past but worse now = not a case of neglect? If the app is an identical version and your firmware is also identical version to when it was working well, but now its not working well, then it could very well be a case of wear and tear. I don't really understand, I'm just going through the process of elimination.
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But your OP says you installed some app which Sony just released?
I meant neglect from Sony; ever since KitKat our devices have had issues. But, on that note, how does (whatever old app you're talking about) working fine in the past but worse now = not a case of neglect? If the app is an identical version and your firmware is also identical version to when it was working well, but now its not working well, then it could very well be a case of wear and tear. I don't really understand, I'm just going through the process of elimination.
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i flashed the app from a mod, the app wasnt meant to be installed at sony xperia z but now sony published the app at Play Store for all xperia (i think some old ones are not combatible). The app had the same issues before but i didnt want to post a thread before since it wasnt officialy combatible with my phone
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Its gets warm just under the camera, and the upper side of the display.. Even when Im not doing anything demanding..
I can surf and it gets warm.. But when I play games/run benchmark it gets REALLy hot imo..
Do you suffer from this as well?
Its clearly annoying how warm it is..
its the fastest phone right now, i personally expect it to be a good hand warmer during the winter... lol put it in battery saving mode and it should run cooler.
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its the fastest phone right now, i personally expect it to be a good hand warmer during the winter... lol put it in battery saving mode and it should run cooler.
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Yes but that dims the display too much.
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Yes but that dims the display too much.
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the display is putting out some of the heat, as well as causing the battery to put out some heat, im not sure what else u want me to say lol
The answer to put it in Power saving mode kind of defeats the object of having a phone like this.
But yeah, i would expect it to get quite warm, still awaiting my delivery so can see for myself soon enough!
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The answer to put it in Power saving mode kind of defeats the object of having a phone like this.
But yeah, i would expect it to get quite warm, still awaiting my delivery so can see for myself soon enough!
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oh im not saying i disagree, im just saying thats the way it gets. however
-you can disable power saving mode effecting the screen at all
-also try putting a thin case on it that might help if you just dont want the feeling of a hot phone
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Its gets warm just under the camera, and the upper side of the display.. Even when Im not doing anything demanding..
I can surf and it gets warm.. But when I play games/run benchmark it gets REALLy hot imo..
Do you suffer from this as well?
Its clearly annoying how warm it is..
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At least it does not get hotter than Xperia Z and google nexus 4. I have this s4 qualcom version as well, and it does get warm but it gets hot only if i turned on 3g + playing games. i think it is normal.
Got the same issue on my I9505... its really hot imo. This is my first Android so i dont know any to comapre it to maybe the iPhone 4s when it gets hot. But S4 is way hotter that the Iphone.
Any idea if this is indeed normal or my unit is broken?
I am having the same problem with my i9505. There is already an opened thread on the subject. For more information go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2252978
No heating issues myself, my i9505 runs a lot cooler than my I9100 ever did.
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Its gets warm just under the camera, and the upper side of the display.. Even when Im not doing anything demanding..
I can surf and it gets warm.. But when I play games/run benchmark it gets REALLy hot imo..
Do you suffer from this as well?
Its clearly annoying how warm it is..
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I had issues with my i9500 on a older firmware. I updated to a newer one and the issue is pretty much gone. You could try updating to a newer firmware too?
My SHV-E300S heats up as well.
If your smartphone is not getting warm or hot, then that is not a smartphone. All devices that has a processor and a gpu intends to get hot. If your device won`t get hot then it is abnormal. Simple as that.
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If your smartphone is not getting warm or hot, then that is not a smartphone. All devices that has a processor and a gpu intends to get hot. If your device won`t get hot then it is abnormal. Simple as that.
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Sorry but that is BS. The S4 is way hotter then S3 (international version) while on 3G.
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I had issues with my i9500 on a older firmware. I updated to a newer one and the issue is pretty much gone. You could try updating to a newer firmware too?
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Placebo effect. The new firmwares have indeed some tweaks, like slower recharge in order to not render the phone unusable while plugged to the wall, but it does not solve the main problem.
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Sorry but that is BS. The S4 is way hotter then S3 (international version) while on 3G.
Placebo effect. The new firmwares have indeed some tweaks, like slower recharge in order to not render the phone unusable while plugged to the wall, but it does not solve the main problem.
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Month old post and definitely not placebo.
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I had issues with my i9500 on a older firmware. I updated to a newer one and the issue is pretty much gone. You could try updating to a newer firmware too?
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,what firmware fixed your problem ?
Im on my 3rd update dated july 5 and yes, its still hot but not that much as before. Its just plain bad design on samsungs part. Heat doesnt spread and only stays on the top part
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No heating issues myself, my i9505 runs a lot cooler than my I9100 ever did.
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Which firmware are you running? Thanks
I have same issue it's normal though.
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This is text from one pc/mobile portal in Croatia.
They never said anything what's not confirmed and checked...
I won't translating whole txt but will translate punchline...
..."Sony expected losts for a 2014 in amount of 470 mil $, now they changed their expectations and said they will end fiscal year with a total lost of 2,15 bil $..."
Why and which division failed?
..."as a mani reason for awful results they blamed Xperia mobile device department.
Now they have changed their strategy and will try to sell more if their higher level products..."
If Z3 is part of that plan I'm not sure they will succeed
After they start to care about customers and maintained their devices like they should we all reacted by buying new devices from Xperia lines...and what we got from them?
Current flagship on 4.4.2, lousy wifi drivers and EDIT camera?!
I really think this is Sonys last chance to shake their heads and think again...
Once they lose their fans it's gonna be impossible to get them back.
I know I feel like EDIT when I give 2000$ in one year for a two devices and can't get even decent software if not flagship for at least one year...
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Japanska korporacija Sony objavila je financijske detalje vezane za proteklo tromjesečje, a u njima se nalazi i revidirano očekivanje ukupnog financijskog rezultata za tekuću godinu. Prema tim podacima, umjesto planiranog gubitka od oko 470 milijuna američkih dolara, sada se očekuje da će fiskalna godina u ožujku 2015. biti zaključena s gubitkom od čak 2,15 milijardi USD.
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I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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DrearierJester1 said:
I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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This maybe the next step they will do it. Sin
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DrearierJester1 said:
I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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This maybe the next step they will do it. Since it is clearly sony lacks software technicalities. Their hardware is top notch I really hope they should implement like apple software updates create a low, mid to premium range that has a uniform update just like ios style. But not loosing the buttery smooth user interface.
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Sorry for double post, don't know how to delete post...
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DrearierJester1 said:
I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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I guess they wanted fast money and to overflow the market with devices, they didn't think about software at all.
If they invested in software right at the start, it would have been very slow for them to make profit, since there's no direct profit from software..
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I guess they wanted fast money and to overflow the market with devices, they didn't think about software at all.
If they invested in software right at the start, it would have been very slow for them to make profit, since there's no direct profit from software..
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agree ... but at least people would know that Sony has the best stable software and features, just like iOS (not sure if u guys will agree, lol). Afterall, Sony is still a hardware company ...
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agree ... but at least people would know that Sony has the best stable software and features, just like iOS (not sure if u guys will agree, lol). Afterall, Sony is still a hardware company ...
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True, but hardware is as important as software. They really need to optimized it. I'm impressed for their walkman, album and movie app after all their updates its really useful and beautiful but if they really want to impressed the consumers they have add more useful features. Improvement on daily and basic function can be improve from beautification of user interface without sacrificing fast and responsive app.
Sony is known for innovative of improved product they should start thinking like that.
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sony has been floping here and there about the place, Z2 Sold alot
honnestly, sony should listen to the more technical customers, over "customers" because alot of these hardware technitions are pointing out almost all xperias not having head basins or pypes or anything to prevent heating, alot are pointint out bad motherboard design, and another thing Xperias aside Z2 have great firmware but everything that doesnt have 4.4.4 right now, is on a very slugish firmware, every single device, 4.1.2 and up
I can't agree to that statement that they don't have good software department...
They have great engineers, you'll see once when Z3 will be released.
And that's something that fans won't approve.
They added new camera features and it's obvious they could do that on Z2.
They added awesome feature called ultimate stamina, where your device kills all background proces, wif,mobile data and gps and leave your device with just basic functions - that way you can use your device for a 7-8 days without charging...
They add awesome new sound processing and many new features...
I know they can't add everything in one device and they have to leave at least one ace in their sleeve but this approach isn't good...
To update your device every six months just to get something two years old device could deal with it nonsense...not only nonsense...it's rude...
I could accept that approach if we are talking in low or even mid range of devices but guys...we are talking about device we paid 1000$!!!
Sony isn't doing very smart thing and that will cost them more then 2.xx bil $.
When I joined Xperia family I stayed here for a long time but when we realized it's enough and we, real fans, who are buying every piece of s**t they are selling, leave this sinking ship...they'll be in bigger problems.
Because once you realized HTC or Oneplus or anyone else is offering more for your money and more fair for your money you won't ever get back...
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Having those Z3 features doesnt make Sony engineers great. I would call them great if they can optimize the software to match the customers expectations and not a buggy fw.
Obviously they have to think new features to make sure Z3 has the edge apart from other Z series. Its just they limit them selves and bake a mediocre fw.
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I sent this to a range of sony emails
And im hoping they realise great Sw isnt great without good optimization or FW, Most cases as well HW.
Xperias arent bad, but there are these things that always puts customers off an Xperia
Although im going to continue buying xperias simply because of their great security and toughness i will constantly persist in trying to get my point across..
Revolution redux may be needed
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Having those Z3 features doesnt make Sony engineers great. I would call them great if they can optimize the software to match the customers expectations and not a buggy fw.
Obviously they have to think new features to make sure Z3 has the edge apart from other Z series. Its just they limit them selves and bake a mediocre fw.
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Customers expectations?
That would actually be a miracle...to please everyone and to satisfy every user.
I can't agree to that part - buggy fw...
Yeah , there are some things to polish but perfect smartphone doesn't exist.
Don't know, I'm quite satisfied with Z2, I'm satisfied with Z1, that's why I kept it...
We could have better camera auto mod, yes but we have manual mod and if you know what are you doing you can get incredible results (check camera and similar threads)
Improvement is always welcomed and oftenly possible... And I'm sure Z2 will get better fw and nice updates...
We have six months old devices, take it easy...it'll be OK..
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Customers expectations?
That would actually be a miracle...to please everyone and to satisfy every user.
I can't agree to that part - buggy fw...
Yeah , there are some things to polish but perfect smartphone doesn't exist.
Don't know, I'm quite satisfied with Z2, I'm satisfied with Z1, that's why I kept it...
We could have better camera auto mod, yes but we have manual mod and if you know what are you doing you can get incredible results (check camera and similar threads)
Improvement is always welcomed and oftenly possible... And I'm sure Z2 will get better fw and nice updates...
We have six months old devices, take it easy...it'll be OK..
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"every user", alot of user yes
Buggy fw, depends on how you use, it becomes unstable and messes up alot if you start modding or messing with it
Improvement is needed in some areas camera SW/FW may be needed comparing to other brands,
I am in agreement here
But this is my opinion/experiance
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"every user", alot of user yes
Buggy fw, depends on how you use, it becomes unstable and messes up alot if you start modding or messing with it
Improvement is needed in some areas camera SW/FW may be needed comparing to other brands,
I am in agreement here
But this is my opinion/experiance
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That's why I'm using eXistenZ v2 (soon, we'll have v3 with Ultimate Stamina) and it'll be even better.
It's not ROM marketing but I found v2 battery friendly and very, very good ROM with all features and apps I need daily.
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That's why I'm using eXistenZ v2 (soon, we'll have v3 with Ultimate Stamina) and it'll be even better.
It's not ROM marketing but I found v2 battery friendly and very, very good ROM with all features and apps I need daily.
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Sounds good, ive stuck my self to a modifed stock rom simple because the mods i have realy force battery over performance and heating
Im tempted to go to cm11 and theme it like an xperia rom just because im tired of this slight slowness in response on the stock rom
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Sounds good, ive stuck my self to a modifed stock rom simple because the mods i have realy force battery over performance and heating
Im tempted to go to cm11 and theme it like an xperia rom just because im tired of this slight slowness in response on the stock rom
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Yeah...I hate that too...
Every friend of mine who took this device to see it, after he heard specifications couldn't believe his eyes when he saw hiccups on scrolling.
It's better on eXistenZ, still not perfect but it's better.
I'm on LB and don't want anything except stock based ROM.
Actually, I can't unlock bootloader but I bought this device on purpose, because I knew I don't want to use custom kernels...
Battery life isn't good on CM (at least for me) and I'm on stock/stoxk based ROMs since Xperia S and PAC ROM
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Yeah...I hate that too...
Every friend of mine who took this device to see it, after he heard specifications couldn't believe his eyes when he saw hiccups on scrolling.
It's better on eXistenZ, still not perfect but it's better.
I'm on LB and don't want anything except stock based ROM.
Actually, I can't unlock bootloader but I bought this device on purpose, because I knew I don't want to use custom kernels...
Battery life isn't good on CM (at least for me) and I'm on stock/stoxk based ROMs since Xperia S and PAC ROM
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It weirldy depends on device power, for some odd reason Xperia S causes gapps to drain battery but on Z2 it has alot less of that,
cm11 on Z2 is perfectly fine, its about same life on stock then on Cm11
Im concidering Stopping development On my rom for Z2 untill 4.4.4 comes, i cant add any huge mods without them just not working, ive only been able to add small patches to the framework and boot class
Xperia S was a wonderful device, the only problem being the Linux Base was outdated and had a issue, once i patched that the device flew like a rocket, i added the patch to Envi-Rom V3 and upcoming V5
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It weirldy depends on device power, for some odd reason Xperia S causes gapps to drain battery but on Z2 it has alot less of that,
cm11 on Z2 is perfectly fine, its about same life on stock then on Cm11
Im concidering Stopping development On my rom for Z2 untill 4.4.4 comes, i cant add any huge mods without them just not working, ive only been able to add small patches to the framework and boot class
Xperia S was a wonderful device, the only problem being the Linux Base was outdated and had a issue, once i patched that the device flew like a rocket, i added the patch to Envi-Rom V3 and upcoming V5
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Hmm..That's nice then.. ?
I sold my XS to one friend of mine.
He is still using it and he's perfectly satisfied with it.
It's way to slow and old for me, z2 is perfect device for me now but we just have to admit Sony should build that device, or at least, some of the lines of it, better...
Quality control failed totally this time and that shouldn't happen to company like Sony (mobile)...
If they learn from z2 case/experiance - that'll be enough for me.
I'm planning to buy z4 and I really hope differences between 10th and 15th week won't be same as can see on Z2...
See ya guys...
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Hmm..That's nice then.. ?
I sold my XS to one friend of mine.
He is still using it and he's perfectly satisfied with it.
It's way to slow and old for me, z2 is perfect device for me now but we just have to admit Sony should build that device, or at least, some of the lines of it, better...
Quality control failed totally this time and that shouldn't happen to company like Sony (mobile)...
If they learn from z2 case/experiance - that'll be enough for me.
I'm planning to buy z4 and I really hope differences between 10th and 15th week won't be same as can see on Z2...
See ya guys...
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Sounds good, i plan to buy a New Xperia 18 months from now
Z6 i think if i did the math right, if there is another Z Ultra, id take that in a heartbeat
Z Ultra was wonderful to use, it fit my gorilla hands perfectly
I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster
So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.
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I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster
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Try the J firmware.
If you can you should return it, if you can't, root and reduce the DPI 560 seems sweet. Also use a different launcher and keyboard. That will remove most of the lag, but not all.
The phone is not rubbish, LGs software and "configuration" on the other hand is a bit over aggressive:
- thermal throttling kicks in too early in my opinion (play a game for a few minutes and frames start dropping like crazy due to the processor being capped). the phone isn't that hot either - considering my N5 reaches temperatures where it feels a lot warmer than this and seems to not cap the speed that aggressively;
- there is a lot of useless software from LG running (updates, smart stay, quiet hours, bla bla bla) which eats up memory, processor usage, etc.
- be careful if you have an sd card in it (I had an old card in it and everything was twice as sluggish);
- avoid power management / battery monitoring tools (using GSAM battery monitor in my experience seemed to keep the phone awake more then it should resulting in earlier thermal throttling).
Ways to improve performance:
- keep the software that you need active (give up unnecessary widgets, services, syncs). keep only to the ones you need;
- try the phone without a sd card;
- try to keep it as cool as possible so it runs cool and doesn't throttle performance;
- (advanced) root ... and get rid of useless junk ...
- (advanced / risky) disable throttling and other safety features ...
I've changed keyboard
I'm loving it. Phone of the year. The m8's got a crappy camera and too much bezel, the s5... Well, it's the s5. Sony, yeah Sony, great contestant. Doesn't have the style, the flare tho. No nanny Fine finesse.
Different strokes for different folks, eh.
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The phone is indeed rubbish:
- crappy laggy LG software. No match to Google's Android.
- bleak washed out colors of LG IPS screen
- over sharpening
- crappy over sensitive Knock wake up
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Well surely there was no need to open yet another thread again, but his opinion is also an opinion. That might help ppl to decide thier purchase. And i do agree with him, g3 is a crappy device
Not rubbish @ all
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So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.
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Seriously...
I've had the M8, Nexus 5, Note 2, Galaxy S4...
I only miss the Nexus 5 a bit, for the ROMS of course. This G3 is awesome, Rooted + xposed, patiently waiting for the Devs to crack open the bootloader, or bypass.
Rubbish? Na, Great phone, could be better?, yes, not perfect, but not rubbish @ all.
Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Nothing dumb about it. The phones software is poor FACT
You guys should yell at a camera for 10 minutes just like what Adam Outler did. You'd really get your point across about how "horribly" bad of a phone this is.
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Send it to me. I'll put it to good use.
Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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Helloworld294 said:
Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.
I like it and i came from a note 3 iv rooted and disabled any apps i never use and i have no problems i like the screen decent battery nearly 13 hours on battery and nearly 2 hours screen time with 70% left i found messages was laggy so im using hangouts and it seems ok
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"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.
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Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Helloworld294 said:
Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Well its not me who said "lag free".
lossah said:
Well its not me who said "lag free".
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Everything lags lol every software no matter how many cores you have will lag, it all depends on the code. So when I say " lag free" I mean no unnecessary lag
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Has anybody else found this. For example, unlocking the phone. Or turning the alarm off. Or pulling down the notification shade. Very laggy - 5 to 10 seconds to respond sometimes. My z3y was MUCH more responsive.
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Has anybody else found this.
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Nope.
Try a clean wipe
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Try clearing data/cache of the launcher app from settings - apps - all. Also avoid live wallpapers if you got any.
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Try clearing data/cache of the launcher app from settings - apps - all. Also avoid live wallpapers if you got any.
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Thank you for your suggestions. I use Nova launcher. And no live wallpapers - I find them an unnecessary use of resources.
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Well, then you could try the stock launcher. If the lag is gone, then it's definitely caused by Nova in the first place. I've seen this before on other phones.
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Well, then you could try the stock launcher. If the lag is gone, then it's definitely caused by Nova in the first place. I've seen this before on other phones.
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Dunno, for me, Nova seemed to actually speed things up. Being fast is one of its selling points, after all.
I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed with the Z3+. I previously owned a z2, z3 and z3 tablet compact and all of those were far more responsive and less laggy than the z3+. Hell even my Moto X 2014 puts the z3+ to shame. I love Sony products but have been massively put off them after the shoddy Z3+, this is not even mentioning the fact that most other xperia phones, including the z1, have the 5.1 update yet there's no sign of it for the z3+. A bit of a rant but its a poor show by Sony.
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I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed with the Z3+. I previously owned a z2, z3 and z3 tablet compact and all of those were far more responsive and less laggy than the z3+. Hell even my Moto X 2014 puts the z3+ to shame. I love Sony products but have been massively put off them after the shoddy Z3+, this is not even mentioning the fact that most other xperia phones, including the z1, have the 5.1 update yet there's no sign of it for the z3+. A bit of a rant but its a poor show by Sony.
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I agree. It's a real shame. I'm gonna try a full reset tonight and see if that helps any. I don't have much installed on the phone. To be honest, it was much more responsive when I first got it, so I'm hoping this helps. I'll keep you posted.
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I found my Z3+ to be unacceptably laggy as well. I moved to the One Plus Two phone last week and could not be happier. I may try the Z5 when it's released as I prefer the smaller 5.2" screen size versus the OP2 5.5" screen.
I had previously been using the Z2 with CM 12.1 nightlies but could not deal with the poor phone calling quality.
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I found my Z3+ to be unacceptably laggy as well. I moved to the One Plus Two phone last week and could not be happier. I may try the Z5 when it's released as I prefer the smaller 5.2" screen size versus the OP2 5.5" screen.
I had previously been using the Z2 with CM 12.1 nightlies but could not deal with the poor phone calling quality.
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Does it overheat?
The lagging even happens when the phone is stone cold.
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Does it overheat?
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Does what overheat; the Z3+? Not at all since the latest firmware was released; .251.
The Z3+ does lag for me while scrolling left/right or up/down even when the Phone is NOT hot. There can be no denial of this fact. My Opinion.
Note: All this is even after I did a full clean wipe, de-bloated my phone heavily, and disabled ALL google services save for a few mandatory ones.
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Does what overheat; the Z3+? Not at all since the latest firmware was released; .251.
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No i meant The "Oneplus 2"
Do you have 28.0.A.8.251 firmware on your Z3+? I am asking because on this firmware I am not having lag anymore (a little bit after playing games but it is OK).
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No i meant The "Oneplus 2"
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No, not at all.
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Do you have 28.0.A.8.251 firmware on your Z3+? I am asking because on this firmware I am not having lag anymore (a little bit after playing games but it is OK).
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Yes, .251
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Dunno, for me, Nova seemed to actually speed things up. Being fast is one of its selling points, after all.
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Nova makes the phone way faster. Set scroll and animation speed to faster-than-light.
I've been so busy developing stuff and reflashing my phone that I've not had the chance to use it in daily use. That said, it feels faster than my Galaxy Note 4. using .251 firmware, it kicks the Galaxy's ass on an Antutu Benchmark, and that's even with what we know about Samsung cooking benchmarks on their devices. It got 53.5K to the Note 4's 48.3K
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Nova makes the phone way faster. Set scroll and animation speed to faster-than-light.
I've been so busy developing stuff and reflashing my phone that I've not had the chance to use it in daily use. That said, it feels faster than my Galaxy Note 4. using .251 firmware, it kicks the Galaxy's ass on an Antutu Benchmark, and that's even with what we know about Samsung cooking benchmarks on their devices. It got 53.5K to the Note 4's 48.3K
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53.5 vs 48.3 doesn't seem like that big a jump considering the z3+ is 64 bit.
The annoying thing for me is lag when unlocking , or using WhatsApp, or the camera. Just takes ages (5-10 seconds) to respond.
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53.5 vs 48.3 doesn't seem like that big a jump considering the z3+ is 64 bit.
The annoying thing for me is lag when unlocking , or using WhatsApp, or the camera. Just takes ages (5-10 seconds) to respond.
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Mine does lag when unlocking, too, but not that much...
Hi guys, I was thinking of getting a Oneplus 2, but touch latency and display response is very important to me so I wanted to see what you guys think
Go for it, OnePlus 2 is a good phone apart from the heating issue. Touch latency can be fixed by flashing Custom ROMs or AOSP.. It's pretty fast. Try with your friends' device some time and check it out yourself.
krishna442 said:
Go for it, OnePlus 2 is a good phone apart from the heating issue. Touch latency can be fixed by flashing Custom ROMs or AOSP.. It's pretty fast. Try with your friends' device some time and check it out yourself.
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Heating issue? You must have a defective unit, playing one hour real racing 3 and dead trigger 2 on leaked hydrogen marshmallow and the phones stays warm, not even hot.
And I modify thermal file so it doesn't throttle. It doesn't shutdown cores and throttle starts at 57° (quiet_term sensor) and the max temp in an hour of heavy gaming was 44°. So... Heating issue?..
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filthygoat223996 said:
Hi guys, I was thinking of getting a Oneplus 2, but touch latency and display response is very important to me so I wanted to see what you guys think
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DONT DO IT!!! i regret it so much. The screen responds so slow... almost double the time of my nexus 5. (which is like 40-50ms or something)
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Laggalot said:
DONT DO IT!!! i regret it so much. The screen responds so slow... almost double the time of my nexus 5. (which is like 40-50ms or something)
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I don't find a delay, (coming from nexus 5) I found it a little insensitive but this is compared with my nexus 5 without film protector, I'm using my opt with the stock film
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I don't find a delay, (coming from nexus 5) I found it a little insensitive but this is compared with my nexus 5 without film protector, I'm using my opt with the stock film
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I truly don't find delay. I agree with you brother.
But I have had heating issue when I played Gangstar Vegas and Brothers in Arms 3.. Other than that.. It's super cool.
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krishna442 said:
I truly don't find delay. I agree with you brother.
But I have had heating issue when I played Gangstar Vegas and Brothers in Arms 3.. Other than that.. It's super cool.
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A little off topic. Good news if you play games. I don't know if its marshmallow (I'm using h2os leak) optimizing apps or real racing update, but it tends to use big cores instead of little, this means better performance and less heat. My max was CPU 61° and 44° quiet_term after 30m. This is really good!, my nexus 5 gets way hotter. I will try another games later to see if its marshmallow or it was rr3 update.
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If you enable developer options and select show touches. Just moving the finger fast, how much does the little white circle trail behind by?
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If you enable developer options and select show touches. Just moving the finger fast, how much does the little white circle trail behind by?
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Lesser than half second.
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A little off topic. Good news if you play games. I don't know if its marshmallow (I'm using h2os leak) optimizing apps or real racing update, but it tends to use big cores instead of little, this means better performance and less heat. My max was CPU 61° and 44° quiet_term after 30m. This is really good!, my nexus 5 gets way hotter. I will try another games later to see if its marshmallow or it was rr3 update.
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I see. Haven't played any of games since then. I'll try on Marshamallow
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If you enable developer options and select show touches. Just moving the finger fast, how much does the little white circle trail behind by?
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way slower than my n5 or for example an Ipad air 2 which has like 9ms touch latency.. (apple pls stop teasing me with this)
So you understand better. Its not super bad, but definitely noticeable enough to the point where it will annoy you if you think about it! (stuff just doesnt stick to your finger. its always behind. After a while you just dont notice it anymore.
update: I also love how that dude said. "lesser than half a second".... thats WAY to much. Or would you play computer games with 450ms ping?
Because one second is 1000ms....
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Laggalot said:
update: I also love how that dude said. "lesser than half a second".... thats WAY to much. Or would you play computer games with 450ms ping?
Because one second is 1000ms....
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But if is definitely under half a second right! Lmao.
Your post made using oneplus two annoying. Now lag can't be unseen bro!!
Edit: I don't play much games but definitely know lower is better. Don't know how much to say so I just said lesser than a second. [emoji28] [emoji28] use your friends' device first, that's what I suggest.
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Coming from an HTC M9 to the Oneplus 2, the delay has consistently been driving me crazy. I hope M alleviates this, since I suspect it's related to Oxygen OS. I have reported it to Helen directly and she said they would look into it.
It's especially noticeable when typing on the keyboard.
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I finally got the oneplus 2, touch latency is quite a bit worse than what im used to but still smooth and fast. Im interested as well to changes m would bring but it feels like the latency is a hardware limitation
The delay at opening apps is launcher related. I don't know if that's the delay you're talking about.
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I finally got the oneplus 2, touch latency is quite a bit worse than what im used to but still smooth and fast. Im interested as well to changes m would bring but it feels like the latency is a hardware limitation
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No. I don't think it's hardware related at least for my oneplus 2.
I was using galaxy s6 before and lost it, bought oneplus 2 afterwards and my first expression was what a horrible device it is.
Slow touches slow response, awkward DPI.
Rooted it and installed custom rom based on oxygen OS and set DPI to 400 and all animation to .75, since then I feel it's fast and snappy.
Try this I hope your touch latency issues wll be solved.