Database Users

SGS ultra hot during Dungeon Defenders

Hi guys,
I'm just wondering, my phone gets ultra hot when i'm running hd games or dungeon defenders.
It's so hot that it's barely comfortable holding the phone.
touching the screen on the left keypad (which is the top left of the phone - near the cameras) is near impossible and borderline scalding and blistering.
Are you guys experiencing this on your phone?

I have similar during "Medieval Castle Defense", especially if I have brightness turned up.
Since I have rooted my phone and locked its upper clock to 800MHz this has decreased a lot, its now getting only hand warm. Performance is still good - no lags, no hangs, and if I need more power, I can just "unlock the lock".
So I guess while using very graphic intense applications while having brightness not drecreased, this is normal.

Thing is, I don't have brightness up that high. I usually keep it in the low region. And by low, I mean in the 10-20% region.
I'm surprised that the phone cooks up a lot during intensive gaming. a bit worried that it might fry itself during gaming..
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

Same issue here...

Dungeon Defenders working on SGS2 already?

Yes, this the only and first game that I have found makes the phone exceptionally hot, in particular near camera area, even some of the heavy graphical gameloft games only make the device warm, must be something wrong with the game I would say, removing the game
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

THUDUK said:
Yes, this the only and first game that I have found makes the phone exceptionally hot, in particular near camera area, even some of the heavy graphical gameloft games only make the device warm, must be something wrong with the game I would say, removing the game
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=2901
From the tear down, the problem lies with the processor. or mainboard.
What's your settings?
Rooted/unrooted?
Rom?
I'm running stock unrooted 2.3.3 and i'm having this problem.
I did notice that it doesn't get heated all the time. Hot yes, but not all the time. It does mean that it might not be safe to run background apps while heavy gaming.

Im geeting the same problem with guns'n'glory and robo defense. I have brightness at 50% but the phone becomes a fire risk after about 30 minutes of play.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

I think I actually burned my thumb (left hand) while playing for 20 mins this morning. Fun game though
Badly designed phone or game not optimized well enough for SGS2?

EvilRadish said:
I think I actually burned my thumb (left hand) while playing for 20 mins this morning. Fun game though
Badly designed phone or game not optimized well enough for SGS2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure.
What is your phone setup?
i'm running unrooted stock rom I9100XWKF-1
What are you running on?
I have read somewhere that KE-2 version does not overheat.
Cannot confirm that though.

I have Asphalt 6 a racing game which isn't playable with my silicone cover around it. It will eventually lag and will stop. Without the cover i have no problems. Also having this problem with the gangster game from gameloft.

Guys,the actual problem on the phone is heat dissipation.It's very thin and made of plastic.So,all the heat the processor generates goes directly to its environment.I don't think it's going to get burnt or something,but it makes everyone feel uncomfortable.
The best solution available for those who don't want to sacrifice any performance is rooting and undervolting.Most phones should be able to handle 1200MHz at 1200mV.This saves you from a good amount of overheating.Tegrak Ultimate or custom kernels allow for undervolting for those who haven't bothered yet.
I for one am overclocked too,but don't experience any overheating that often.Only when I go up to 1.6GHz my phone overheats a lot,but still,not as much as when it was stock.

I havent had any game really warm up my phone, this game makes the phone just a tad bit warm like angry birds.

randy_khoo said:
I have read somewhere that KE-2 version does not overheat.
Cannot confirm that though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can coming from KE2 - same issue with RoboDefense. I did factory reset the phone and I think it solved the issue mostly. I tested it only briefly so cannot confirm 100% as I uninstalled the ancient RoboDef version I had short after that and installed a new one from market. Phone did got warm, not burning though as it used to.
I did the factory reset because I suspected something's draining the battery and couldn't tell what (factory reset solved this as well) so I think it has something to do with combination of some processes which are running concurrently.

I am currently running the KE2 kernel and I am here to report that I have heating issues when playing HD games also. The heat really bothers me or shall I say worry me a lot? I'm looking to root my phone and underclock it so it won't get that hot.

tolis626 said:
Only when I go up to 1.6GHz my phone overheats a lot,but still,not as much as when it was stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I find this statement very amusing!

EarlZ said:
I find this statement very amusing!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah,me too.Believe me,I had some serious overheating at stock speeds,let alone when I tried 1.4GHz.I used to underclock to 1GHz or 800MHz to play games in fact.Since I made it 1.6GHz,overheating adios.Well,kind of.Still,it's far better than stock.Never burnt my finger with 1.6!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium App

tolis626 said:
Yeah,me too.Believe me,I had some serious overheating at stock speeds,let alone when I tried 1.4GHz.I used to underclock to 1GHz or 800MHz to play games in fact.Since I made it 1.6GHz,overheating adios.Well,kind of.Still,it's far better than stock.Never burnt my finger with 1.6!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So we may say that Exynos is done for 1.6. and underclocked and this pisses our little dual-core gem off ))
But i'll give it a try. Actually most of the time phones get hot ehen they're intensly used for connection. I never had CPU overheating any of my phones till now. I gues Samsung's own softcraps screws their hi-tech device. A slimmed modified undervolted-kerneled ROM without Samsung's softcrap will do the job...
By the way..t hanks for the heads up man...

try underclocking to 800mhz, performance shouldnt suffer too much, and the phone wont get as hot.

zappaff said:
So we may say that Exynos is done for 1.6. and underclocked and this pisses our little dual-core gem off ))
But i'll give it a try. Actually most of the time phones get hot ehen they're intensly used for connection. I never had CPU overheating any of my phones till now. I gues Samsung's own softcraps screws their hi-tech device. A slimmed modified undervolted-kerneled ROM without Samsung's softcrap will do the job...
By the way..t hanks for the heads up man...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well,it's not guarranteed this will also work on other's devices.Keep in mind that every CPU is unique,for many reasons that I won't discuss here,you probably already know.Many things are in play here though.Some people have even experienced overheating more than normal when undervolting.Things are reaaaally ****ed up.It's probably that with changes in voltages,resistances also change inside the chip.That MAY be causing it,just taking a wild guess here,so take my word with more than one pinch of salt.

performance under 4.2.1

It is early days, but has anyone noticed a change in overall performance after the 4.2.1 update?
This could be a placebo effect, but I'm certain that things are a little smoother, less lag, and there are certainly less freezes / forced restarts so far. I was getting at least 3 of these per day, and have had none since yesterday. It also seems to have cooled the screen colour temperature slightly more bluey and less yellowy.

If you would've googled the 4.2.1 change log you would know that there isn't anything that would improve what you think you are noticing. All that changed is December was added back into calander and some vibration fixes. There is nothing that would improve performance or anything you've mentioned.

task650 said:
If you would've googled the 4.2.1 change log you would know that there isn't anything that would improve what you think you are noticing..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh no! If only I had done that, I wouldn't feel half as stupid as I do now.
Actually, I did and found this caveat (or similar) attached to them all.
This only includes the Android Open Source Project changes and does not include any changes in any proprietary components included by Google
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hence my question.

eager27 said:
Oh no! If only I had done that, I wouldn't feel half as stupid as I do now.
Actually, I did and found this caveat (or similar) attached to them all.
Hence my question.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Woa... you are on to something. I got a 4873 on the Quadrant benches with my N4. Geekbench shows no improvement what so ever, remaining at an incredibly static 2042.
I'll test on my N10 when the battery goes up, it may be the case that my low bat is affecting scores.

eager27 said:
Oh no! If only I had done that, I wouldn't feel half as stupid as I do now.
Actually, I did and found this caveat (or similar) attached to them all.
Hence my question.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh yes! I work with the source. I answered your question. Its probably the smallest and most minor update from Google ever.

Call me crazy, naive, silly noob, but I'm definitely getting zippier, more buttery performance on stock takju 4.2.1 since I OTA'd this morning.
And honestly...if I'm enjoying it more, what else matters, right?

Well bring on the placebo effect, I reckon it's a little faster too. And my led notifications suddenly work now too, I had pretty much given up on them and concluded the hardware might be broken but was amazed when it started blinking after the 4.2.1 update!
Sent from my Nexus 10 using XDA Premium HD app

tofo17 said:
Well bring on the placebo effect, I reckon it's a little faster too. And my led notifications suddenly work now too, I had pretty much given up on them and concluded the hardware might be broken but was amazed when it started blinking after the 4.2.1 update!
Sent from my Nexus 10 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep. Never said anythings wrong with the old placebo effect. In most cases it's better to have that than nothing. I was just stated the fact that I saw what exactly was changed and giving the proper information for it.

I got ~9000 on 4.2 on Antutu, and 13000+ on 4.2.1. Probably has more to do with the update to 3.0 though. The big increases were in 2D and 3D performance.

Hi can you give any advice please

Hi Guys,
Just recently got my shiny new S4 in arctic blue great, I know a bit about rooting and installing custom roms as I've done it to a fair few phones in the past but with my S3 I know there were a few issues with the bug and the older phones dying also with the samsungs there is the flash counter and modified issue so here's my question/s.
Currently what is the easiest method of rooting and installing philz recovery, I'm looking at installing the omega or foxhound rom/s.
Once done will this increase my flash counter and also place my phone in modified?, if so can I set this back after doing the above, so if I do have a problem its just basically installing a stock rom again.
Thanks guys
BTW I did first purchase the black mist and noticed that it had a heating problem I even sent it back to samsung but they said that it was fine, then sold and bought the blue version this is exactly the same if not worse and on antutu stability test the phone went upto almost 40 degrees, is this normal?.

maverick7777 said:
Hi Guys,
Just recently got my shiny new S4 in arctic blue great, I know a bit about rooting and installing custom roms as I've done it to a fair few phones in the past but with my S3 I know there were a few issues with the bug and the older phones dying also with the samsungs there is the flash counter and modified issue so here's my question/s.
Currently what is the easiest method of rooting and installing philz recovery, I'm looking at installing the omega or foxhound rom/s.
Once done will this increase my flash counter and also place my phone in modified?, if so can I set this back after doing the above, so if I do have a problem its just basically installing a stock rom again.
Thanks guys
BTW I did first purchase the black mist and noticed that it had a heating problem I even sent it back to samsung but they said that it was fine, then sold and bought the blue version this is exactly the same if not worse and on antutu stability test the phone went upto almost 40 degrees, is this normal?.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have the I9500? That has an issue with overheating. However 40 degrees is not an unreasonable for a processor / GPU being pushed hard. It may seem hot, and it's not great for the battery but it is not out of any reasonable bounds. Mine is I9505 and playing vice city etc. it gets damn warm!
Flash counter can be countered with Triangle Away.
Easiest: just search.
Actually all of your questions are answered several times on here, use the search function!
At the top of the forum you just posted on is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419762 start there.

RossFixxed said:
Do you have the I9500? That has an issue with overheating. However 40 degrees is not an unreasonable for a processor / GPU being pushed hard. It may seem hot, and it's not great for the battery but it is not out of any reasonable bounds. Mine is I9505 and playing vice city etc. it gets damn warm!
Flash counter can be countered with Triangle Away.
Easiest: just search.
Actually all of your questions are answered several times on here, use the search function!
At the top of the forum you just posted on is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419762 start there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
I have the UK i9505 version, had it in black mist thought there was an overheating problem, also had battery drain and it seemed laggy, so I sent off to Samsung, they basically said it was fine and the S4 gets warm from time to time which is normal. I ended up selling it and buying an Arctic Blue i9505 but it basically is the same. I cant believe a flagship phone with a 2gb ram and quadcore is laggy at times and I would honestly say slower than some dualcore phones i've had.
I love the S4's screen the camera is good quality but again takes an age to open and shoot, hence I'm hoping that a custom rom may fix a lot of these problems?.
I've had S3 & S4, HTC one and Iphone 5, all have their good and bad points shame there isnt a phone out there with, S4's camera quality (iphones speed), Iphone's speed and fluidity UI, HTC's speakers and style (superb) and S4's screen with iphones brightness, and S4's removable back with SD slot.
Someone please bring out .
With triangle away, if I root and install a recovery does this increase the flash counter and change the phone to modified?.
I will use search I always do just find asking the question easier, things like one click rooting and recovery are sometimes hard to find and you end up rooting manually and installing recovery etc when there are newer and easier tools out.
Thanks
Mav

maverick7777 said:
Hi,
I have the UK i9505 version, had it in black mist thought there was an overheating problem, also had battery drain and it seemed laggy, so I sent off to Samsung, they basically said it was fine and the S4 gets warm from time to time which is normal. I ended up selling it and buying an Arctic Blue i9505 but it basically is the same. I cant believe a flagship phone with a 2gb ram and quadcore is laggy at times and I would honestly say slower than some dualcore phones i've had.
I love the S4's screen the camera is good quality but again takes an age to open and shoot, hence I'm hoping that a custom rom may fix a lot of these problems?.
I've had S3 & S4, HTC one and Iphone 5, all have their good and bad points shame there isnt a phone out there with, S4's camera quality (iphones speed), Iphone's speed and fluidity UI, HTC's speakers and style (superb) and S4's screen with iphones brightness, and S4's removable back with SD slot.
Someone please bring out .
With triangle away, if I root and install a recovery does this increase the flash counter and change the phone to modified?.
I will use search I always do just find asking the question easier, things like one click rooting and recovery are sometimes hard to find and you end up rooting manually and installing recovery etc when there are newer and easier tools out.
Thanks
Mav
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The FAQ at the top has root instructions, probably the easiest way to do it. The i9505 shouldn't overheat, but defects do happen.
What exactly is slow, I've found this blazingly fast compared to my nexus 4 and comparable to HTC one? iOS is optimised and always looks and feels smoother to me.
A few things I found speeded things up:
1) Turn off the unlock animation. That is just laggy.
2) Enable developer options and change all windows animations to 0.5. Feels snappier to me.
3) Do not use task killers at all.
4) Factory reset after update
5) Turn off smart stay etc if not in use, same for multi window.
Triangle away should set you back on the counter and there is a post on how to unroot and return to 'original' status. I just don't have the link to hand (in work and BUSY!)
Best of luck!

Thanks Ross,
Well i've had 2 now both from phones4u new and its definitely hot at times both got warm with things like using camera and youtube, running videos etc. Surely I cant be unlucky enough to have had 2 defective units?.
I've also had the nexus 4 and that was fluid compared to this, i've tried using nova launcher but still not smooth, I don't use any samsung gimmicks and have heard about the animation will try that now, my wifes GS3 is smoother in my opinion.
I really didnt want to root and custom flash tbh just because if it is faulty and was to die on me and don't want to have the problem with possibly not being able to reset counter, hence the reason for asking peps out there to make double sure that its pretty easy to do. Samsung were absolutely crap when I contacted them about my first black mist S4, I used it on GPS satnav for 3 hours to get to airport for hols I had it charging in car also at the end it was boiling, as such the metal surround slightly moved and the phone had gaps on the side Samsung said this was fine and the heating was fine!!, the phone was only 5 weeks old, and it even had intermittent restarting problems and battery drain which I mentioned I couldnt believe their CS.

maverick7777 said:
Thanks Ross,
Well i've had 2 now both from phones4u new and its definitely hot at times both got warm with things like using camera and youtube, running videos etc. Surely I cant be unlucky enough to have had 2 defective units?.
I've also had the nexus 4 and that was fluid compared to this, i've tried using nova launcher but still not smooth, I don't use any samsung gimmicks and have heard about the animation will try that now, my wifes GS3 is smoother in my opinion.
I really didnt want to root and custom flash tbh just because if it is faulty and was to die on me and don't want to have the problem with possibly not being able to reset counter, hence the reason for asking peps out there to make double sure that its pretty easy to do. Samsung were absolutely crap when I contacted them about my first black mist S4, I used it on GPS satnav for 3 hours to get to airport for hols I had it charging in car also at the end it was boiling, as such the metal surround slightly moved and the phone had gaps on the side Samsung said this was fine and the heating was fine!!, the phone was only 5 weeks old, and it even had intermittent restarting problems and battery drain which I mentioned I couldnt believe their CS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it may be 'technically' ok, but if you are getting a poor user experience you are completely right to return it. I do find it very warm but not overly so compared to other devices.
Where are you getting the slowdown / lag on the device? It's possible I'm just accustomed to it, but after the last update I found things a lot better. (I'm in Ireland so I'd say were using the same device, mine's black too!) There's a difference between lag/choppy frame rate/ slow down and it's not clear where your issue is. I've seen a lot of mention of lag but compared to my other devices I find this pretty nippy. Perception of it is what it comes down to. Some iPhones are slower but appear far faster due to smooth animations etc. The 0.5x did help me and it 'feels' faster loading apps etc. I do agree the HTC One feels smoother and more fluid, that seems to be down to Sense 5 more than anything, rather than actual loading times in milliseconds as it were.
I found nove VERY slow upon boot up but it 'settled' after a few minutes running.

I basically found tw to be jerky especially when you first put the screen on, things like widgets take a bit to load app drawer sometimes also lags a bit. Also internet browsing and scrolling is def jerky.
Ive got the arctic blue version now and love the look and feel of the phone. Just ran antutu benchmark again and its weird I keep getting different benchmark scores last one was 21500 prior to that almost 26000 why? My other s4 was the same inconsistent benchmarks. Also stability test showed heat started at 30 degrees and again just kept on rising to almost 40, plus worryingly it dipped from 140 to 70 in stability a few times.
Could you do me a massive favour and run antutu on your s4 and let me know what results you get out of curiosity. Im running latest stock firmware.
Thanks
Mav
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app

2425 but it varies. The benchmarks are not reliable at all. And there's the whole Samsung benchmark debacle, it gets very hot as there's no thermal limiting. 48 Celsius!!
That doesn't sound right at all with the lag and widgets. Sounds like task manager is killing everything out something is pulling resources.
Factory reset? Are you running a rom or stock? Rooted?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app

Many thanks for doing that ross, 48 degrees! mine is cool then at 40, im running latest stock, I have factory reset although the animation at 0.5 has made it a bit smoother, thanks for the tip.
I havent installed any task killer or anything like that and just a few apps that dont run in background.
Hence was really hoping a custom rom would help with heating and speed, weird thing is with my black one it ran more smoothly in power saving mode almost like when on full power the processor gets hot and throttles??.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app

I'm a bit out of ideas. I'll have a think. Have a look at how you use it, in direct sunlight all day, in a case that traps heat etc. Weird to get two that are like that, but not unheard of.
Get a battery app or widget and screen shot every now and then as proof if you need to return it.
Sorry can't do more.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app

Thanks ross, np yes im going to test more ive still got few days left on 28 day return so will make my mind up then unsure how good phones 4u are on replacements though. With regards to the heat if your is 48 then they must all run hot on antutu?.
Thanks again ross
Mav
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app

Hi,
I use the omega personally, great rom.
maverick7777 said:
Hi Guys,
Currently what is the easiest method of rooting and installing philz recovery, I'm looking at installing the omega or foxhound rom/s.
Thanks guys
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

All variants of the S4 run hot ... the gt i9500 a bit more especially with the first firmware ... updates made things considerably better ...
I don't think that u have a defective phone ... it's just the way S4 works since u also return one and they said it's fine, chance is it was actually fine according to the S4 standards ... antutu runs at max freq so it's normal to get hot ... also battery drainage can occur from many different things ... the most common one is apps sync in the background especially when this is done with 3G/LTE ...
If u are a heavy user and u don't like the heat maybe u should consider another phone ... or buy a case ...

Hi
I dont mind it running hot as long as I know that everyones s4 is doing the same. If I know everyones is roughly reaching 40 degrees on antutu stability test then fine, but if others are say 32 degrees then thats a big difference and over time my phone would run the risk of damage.
I will post a thread asking for people to post screens and see.
Thanks fir the reply
Mav
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app

WTF?? Heating up issue after 30 mins of use!!

This is not looking good. just finished charging an hour ago.. then i started installing some apps and disabling some blotware... just after 30 mins of use the phone is REALLY HOT!
never had this issue with my Note2. even after lodsa gaming
I hope this wont be a big issue.

what model? sd800 or octa core?

Always come from a rogue app. Something is stuck in memory. Reboot, check, if still does it, uninstall last couple of apps, if still does it, factory reset.

toofimoofi said:
i started installing some apps and disabling some blotware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If this isn't widespread (GSMArena's been playing hard with the N3 and plenty of people here have run some pretty intensive benchmarking programs) it's likely some combination of what you individually installed/uninstalled. The N2's on 4.1 with Exynos/Mali and the programs you're running now are on 4.3 with Snapdragon/Adreno. Not exactly the same environment to make a comparison. I'd expect the N3 to run hotter than the N2 out-of-the-box.

oneandroidnut said:
what model? sd800 or octa core?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How can I see which cpu?

toofimoofi said:
How can I see which cpu?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
n9005 = sd800
n9000 = exynos

toofimoofi said:
How can I see which cpu?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Based on your baseband it's snapdragon800, the quad core one.
Any chance you can go through the checks listed to understand if it's an app that caused it?
Thanks!:good:

mrdesouz said:
Based on your baseband it's snapdragon800, the quad core one.
Any chance you can go through the checks listed to understand if it's an app that caused it?
Thanks!:good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just noticed it as i was disabling some bloats. Ivd restarted the phone. So far so good but its still a bit hot.
On the bright side this phone is suuuuuuper smooooth and fast.

toofimoofi said:
I just noticed it as i was disabling some bloats. Ivd restarted the phone. So far so good but its still a bit hot.
On the bright side this phone is suuuuuuper smooooth and fast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just gonna throw this out there. I noticed my s4 would get hot when i would use the GPS..turn it off (if its on). Try that

gpino001 said:
Just gonna throw this out there. I noticed my s4 would get hot when i would use the GPS..turn it off (if its on). Try that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its allways off. Only use gps when k use maps
The phone seems ok now. Like a member said its probably some app that got stuck or something.
another nice thing i noticed u can turn on flash support in dolphin browser to allways on. Even though we dont have flash this wasnt possible on note2.

Yes, there somewhat of a heating issue. Still not sure what triggers it and how. I don't care much about it, but I dare bet the very high clock speed of the processor has something to do with it.
Read my thread over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458416

toofimoofi said:
Its allways off. Only use gps when k use maps
The phone seems ok now. Like a member said its probably some app that got stuck or something.
another nice thing i noticed u can turn on flash support in dolphin browser to allways on. Even though we dont have flash this wasnt possible on note2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool, one of the reviews referenced it getting hot the first time they used it, they chalked it up to all of the updating of pre-installed apps loading up the memory

This happened to me with my unlocked 9005 snapdragon n3.
Only in the first 3 hours or so.
When I looked at battery consumption it showed that a process called sonetging like "indexing service" was chewing on the battery power.
I think the search feature was indexing my content which was on ny sd card for the sfind to work fast.
Now the temperature is cool but a bit warmer than my previous N2.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2

toofimoofi said:
This is not looking good. just finished charging an hour ago.. then i started installing some apps and disabling some blotware... just after 30 mins of use the phone is REALLY HOT!
never had this issue with my Note2. even after lodsa gaming
I hope this wont be a big issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
CHECK YOURS NOTE CPU TEMP WITH THIS APP
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ien822munuhtif/org.alldroid.apps.tempmonitor.21.apk

Rubbish phone

I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster

So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.

welshandy2322 said:
I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try the J firmware.

If you can you should return it, if you can't, root and reduce the DPI 560 seems sweet. Also use a different launcher and keyboard. That will remove most of the lag, but not all.

The phone is not rubbish, LGs software and "configuration" on the other hand is a bit over aggressive:
- thermal throttling kicks in too early in my opinion (play a game for a few minutes and frames start dropping like crazy due to the processor being capped). the phone isn't that hot either - considering my N5 reaches temperatures where it feels a lot warmer than this and seems to not cap the speed that aggressively;
- there is a lot of useless software from LG running (updates, smart stay, quiet hours, bla bla bla) which eats up memory, processor usage, etc.
- be careful if you have an sd card in it (I had an old card in it and everything was twice as sluggish);
- avoid power management / battery monitoring tools (using GSAM battery monitor in my experience seemed to keep the phone awake more then it should resulting in earlier thermal throttling).
Ways to improve performance:
- keep the software that you need active (give up unnecessary widgets, services, syncs). keep only to the ones you need;
- try the phone without a sd card;
- try to keep it as cool as possible so it runs cool and doesn't throttle performance;
- (advanced) root ... and get rid of useless junk ...
- (advanced / risky) disable throttling and other safety features ...

I've changed keyboard

I'm loving it. Phone of the year. The m8's got a crappy camera and too much bezel, the s5... Well, it's the s5. Sony, yeah Sony, great contestant. Doesn't have the style, the flare tho. No nanny Fine finesse.
Different strokes for different folks, eh.
Sent from my grenade launcher using heat guidance.

The phone is indeed rubbish:
- crappy laggy LG software. No match to Google's Android.
- bleak washed out colors of LG IPS screen
- over sharpening
- crappy over sensitive Knock wake up

There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app

Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well surely there was no need to open yet another thread again, but his opinion is also an opinion. That might help ppl to decide thier purchase. And i do agree with him, g3 is a crappy device

Not rubbish @ all
Robin2 said:
So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seriously...
I've had the M8, Nexus 5, Note 2, Galaxy S4...
I only miss the Nexus 5 a bit, for the ROMS of course. This G3 is awesome, Rooted + xposed, patiently waiting for the Devs to crack open the bootloader, or bypass.
Rubbish? Na, Great phone, could be better?, yes, not perfect, but not rubbish @ all.

Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nothing dumb about it. The phones software is poor FACT

You guys should yell at a camera for 10 minutes just like what Adam Outler did. You'd really get your point across about how "horribly" bad of a phone this is.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app

Send it to me. I'll put it to good use.

Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk

Helloworld294 said:
Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.

I like it and i came from a note 3 iv rooted and disabled any apps i never use and i have no problems i like the screen decent battery nearly 13 hours on battery and nearly 2 hours screen time with 70% left i found messages was laggy so im using hangouts and it seems ok
Sent from my LG-D855 using XDA Free mobile app

lossah said:
"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk

Helloworld294 said:
Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well its not me who said "lag free".

lossah said:
Well its not me who said "lag free".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Everything lags lol every software no matter how many cores you have will lag, it all depends on the code. So when I say " lag free" I mean no unnecessary lag
Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk