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things you would change about the z1

Just a couple things I would change as overall I'm happy with the phone...
The bezels are huge considering the screen size. I would love a tighter fitting chassis.
I have a 6906 so I would love to be able to unlock the boot loader. The entire root process was very complex compared to every phone I've owned. It is needlessly difficult for a new user.
Viewing angles could be better.
Aside from that I'm very happy with this phone.
What would you change?

Speakers, definitely.
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I would change it for a HTC one m8....

the damned ASF

Z2 is pretty much what I want Z1 to be.......

any way to change the colour of the Font in notification bar, that white on grey looks pretty bad (no root)
I thought there was a theme editor being released, I noticed on the Z2 that the font is blue

dedei said:
the damned ASF
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Apply screen protectors straight out of the box (front & back high quality made in Japan ones) and then you don't have to worry about the ASF.

Gitaroo said:
Z2 is pretty much what I want Z1 to be.......
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This guy knows how it is...except for the 16 gb, The Z2 should have a 32gb option specially after the whole kit kat mess
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Hmmm.. I would change a few things about the phone. But would i add? IR. Definitely.

Software update to z2 features. Z1 would get most of it..but of course...why would Sony do that? It intentional updates the flagship phone every 6 months...less reason for then to update their old ones

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Software update to z2 features. Z1 would get most of it..but of course...why would Sony do that? It intentional updates the flagship phone every 6 months...less reason for then to update their old ones
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actually they tense to do that with lot of the exclusive software side features after the new device is 6 months old. By the time the older devices get them, they also get the newer version. Like background defocus, the whole social camera thing all were released to older device that didn't ship with them.

olokos said:
Speakers, definitely.
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Good call on this..
I find the sound for speakerphone and watching videos is terrible

I would give it some optimization love. The hardware is great, but it's performance is very bad. Ecspecially the ui makes it look like a low end device because of all the lags and stutters. Sad story. :'(

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Speakers, definitely.
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So True.
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Software update to z2 features. Z1 would get most of it..but of course...why would Sony do that? It intentional updates the flagship phone every 6 months...less reason for then to update their old ones
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+1

saintgein said:
I would give it some optimization love. The hardware is great, but it's performance is very bad. Ecspecially the ui makes it look like a low end device because of all the lags and stutters. Sad story. :'(
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Weird mine definitely doesn't do that

crixley said:
Weird mine definitely doesn't do that
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What is your setup then? And tbh, this makes me feel really bad because of me having this device for just a month or something. And even with a clean install of stock firmware it gives problems with that. Meanwhile the benchmarks etc are really good. 34k in antutu is no problem. That's also why i don't understand what's going on.
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Oh and it's mainly album, conversations and phonebook/call log which give way too much jank/stutter/lag in my opinion. Apps like chrome and gmail scroll pretty good, just like the ui combined with nova launcher. Almost no lag to be found there.

If I had the the Z2's screen, speakers and 32gb storage I would have the perfect phone
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saintgein said:
What is your setup then? And tbh, this makes me feel really bad because of me having this device for just a month or something. And even with a clean install of stock firmware it gives problems with that. Meanwhile the benchmarks etc are really good. 34k in antutu is no problem. That's also why i don't understand what's going on.
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Oh and it's mainly album, conversations and phonebook/call log which give way too much jank/stutter/lag in my opinion. Apps like chrome and gmail scroll pretty good, just like the ui combined with nova launcher. Almost no lag to be found there.
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Just running nuts stock rooted and deodexed kk.
I don't find it ever lags

crixley said:
Just running nuts stock rooted and deodexed kk.
I don't find it ever lags
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I'm getting there also, i noticed that an app i used caused quite alot of lag. Noroot firewall. I changed it with Afwall+ and the lag is almost completely gone. I just experience some scroll lag when going through messaging or album, but i guess that's normal and will get less if i eventually get the bootloader unlocked and stuff like doomkernel installed. Until then i'm happy with the snappyness!
Btw, rajeev's black apps combined with aneurysm theme and 120fps timeshift also really help to make me love this phone more.

saintgein said:
I would give it some optimization love. The hardware is great, but it's performance is very bad. Ecspecially the ui makes it look like a low end device because of all the lags and stutters. Sad story. :'(
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If this lags then what won't ? on me it runs 100x times smoother than any other phone... M8 is close but not that smooth... apple is somewhere but not as near and finally samsung plastic toys arent even top 100 list...

Z3 - Slight lag or is it just me?

Has anyone else experienced a slight lag when going from any app to lets say, the home screen? It happens frequently with me, in fact, when going to the home screen sometimes the wallpaper is not even there, it takes about an additional second for it to appear.
Coming from a M8 this was never an issue for me. I have 13 days left with the phone so im trying to see if its worth it. :/

Having a D6633 and now a d6603 and helping a friend to get and use his z3 compact I've never seen something like this in more than 3 weeks, that with 4 different firmwares between them.
So, it must be some of your app causing it, I'd recommend to just reset to factory and begin again and try again, you still have enough time to see if you got a defective one or if it was one of the apps.

Disable triple tap to zoom, some phones came with it enabled, it causes lag.

erasat said:
Having a D6633 and now a d6603 and helping a friend to get and use his z3 compact I've never seen something like this in more than 3 weeks, that with 4 different firmwares between them.
So, it must be some of your app causing it, I'd recommend to just reset to factory and begin again and try again, you still have enough time to see if you got a defective one or if it was one of the apps.
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You're right. I am going to factory reset and give that a try. I just hate having to set up everything again.

abhinav.tella said:
Disable triple tap to zoom, some phones came with it enabled, it causes lag.
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Where do i find this?

monomojao said:
Where do i find this?
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I believe accessibility menu, if my memory serves me correctly, I cannot check as I am waiting for a replacement.

I'm using both Z3 and Note 4. Z3 is smoother than Note 4.

monomojao said:
Has anyone else experienced a slight lag when going from any app to lets say, the home screen? It happens frequently with me, in fact, when going to the home screen sometimes the wallpaper is not even there, it takes about an additional second for it to appear.
Coming from a M8 this was never an issue for me. I have 13 days left with the phone so im trying to see if its worth it. :/
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Same here.
Camera sucks, UI performance sucks, Xperia Z3 sucks...

fknpwned said:
Same here.
Camera sucks, UI performance sucks, Xperia Z3 sucks...
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Whatever... Camera is not as great as hoped no, but the device itself is still a great one.
No issues here, only a slight lag in background image loading when unlocking (but that seems more like a transition effect). Other then that, smooth as butter.

fknpwned said:
Same here.
Camera sucks, UI performance sucks, Xperia Z3 sucks...
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As mentioned before, disable triple tap to zoom, it causes lag. If it is still there then I can't say much.

abhinav.tella said:
As mentioned before, disable triple tap to zoom, it causes lag. If it is still there then I can't say much.
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I was unable to find this setting anywhere. Was this a known issue for a previous model?

If i compare the gaming performance between Z3 and Z2 in Asphalt 8, i have to say that it runs a lot smoother on my girlfriends Z2. I dont know, the whole UI performance is better on Z2. Maybe the lag is caused by Android 4.4.4?
Already tried full Reset, cleared RAM and cache without success.
Both phones get around 41000 on Antutu. Sometimes the Z3 only gets 38000

monomojao said:
I was unable to find this setting anywhere. Was this a known issue for a previous model?
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It should be in accesibilty settings labeled as tap to zoom.

abhinav.tella said:
It should be in accesibilty settings labeled as tap to zoom.
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it's labeled "Magnification gestures" and I believe it's off by default

se1000 said:
it's labeled "Magnification gestures" and I believe it's off by default
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Some versions have it enabled by default my TMO version it was off though.

fknpwned said:
If i compare the gaming performance between Z3 and Z2 in Asphalt 8, i have to say that it runs a lot smoother on my girlfriends Z2. I dont know, the whole UI performance is better on Z2. Maybe the lag is caused by Android 4.4.4?
Already tried full Reset, cleared RAM and cache without success.
Both phones get around 41000 on Antutu. Sometimes the Z3 only gets 38000
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I also did a master reset. Only to have the same issues. :/

The phone can lag quite a lot. Such as when a call ends, going back to the desktop. The wallpaper loads slowly and the lock screen can lag too.
Also coming from an M8, I can confirm the Z3 is slower than the M8 going from one app to the next or after closing apps or ending calls etc, although the Z3 is perfectly smooth (Animations etc)

The battery life though... its the only thing holding me from returning it to be honest. Still have till next Monday to decide if i keep this or not....

Im on my third Z3, have not really noticed lag yet though.

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Im on my third Z3, have not really noticed lag yet though.
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Third?? Lol wow you're patient.

Its not the SD810 that overheats

Well today I installed the slyle potrait app which Sony finaly released, in two minutes I got the the notorious message saying that the camera will close if it keeps getting warm and after one more minute it closed. Could it be that the one to blame for the overheating is the camera software itself because I've never seen the message before and I've done some serious usage of the camera. I'll leave a link to the playstore so you can test it on your own!!! Any other thoughts would be much appreciated.
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.android.addoncamera.styleportrait

I was thinking install that app today... After your experience I won't install it. At least not for now.
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Its not only this app problem. Open camera and go to Effects, play with it for few sec and you gonna get message that phone is to hot...
Its actually hilarious that most of companies had time to create window with info about to "hot phone", instead of spending this few minutes thinking: "wait... we just created phone and app that get really hot making it no usable at all... maybe we should fix that? hmmm?"
I would not be mad if companies would spend this 2-3 months getting their balls together and make optimized phone and apps, instead of covering their failure behind window like "phone need to cool down... closing app"
Sad part is that its not only Sony problem, most of phones have this... No one give a flying crap to think about it and fix it...

SolidSnake1976 said:
I was thinking install that app today... After your experience I won't install it. At least not for now.
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I didn't say that the app is not good actually the effects are amazing but it is so frustrating that after 3 minutes the app closes

It never occurred to you that these apps are heavily using CPU and/or GPU?
Also, I did a heatsink mod (copper plating) inside my phone - kind of helps with heat still yet to post the photo guide though, will do it soon!
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CosmicDan said:
It never occurred to you that these apps are heavily using CPU and/or GPU?
Also, I did a heatsink mod (copper plating) inside my phone - kind of helps with heat still yet to post the photo guide though, will do it soon!
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i use creative effects all the time and i never had any problem with the camera closing because of heat (you cant be serious that style potrait uses that much the cpu)

My back panel is unglued because of heat(i would like to say that it's joke but nope) so im gonna change it next month so I would like to se how you made that heatsink mod.
I did a lot of such mods in netbooks and laptops, but phone don't have much room for such mods, so I'm really curious about that...

Akinaro said:
My back panel is unglued because of heat(i would like to say that it's joke but nope) so im gonna change it next month so I would like to se how you made that heatsink mod.
I did a lot of such mods in netbooks and laptops, but phone don't have much room for such mods, so I'm really curious about that...
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I will share when I find the time to write it my back cover never came loose but I definitely noticed heat fatigue on both the SoC and... Another chip, can't remember what it was - maybe the radio (it was a semi-large chip, second biggest after the SoC). Photos are on my other phone and its flat at the moment, I'll find out when I actually do the guide and look at mainboard diagrams again
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i use creative effects all the time and i never had any problem with the camera closing because of heat (you cant be serious that style potrait uses that much the cpu)
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Why can't I be serious? Fact is that the SoC is one die containing CPU, GPU and RAM. In normal circumstances these are the highest consumers of power and generators of heat. An exception is if you've got heavy traffic on radio though, and I mean max bandwidth on a LTE or 802.11ac connection, for an extended period of time; I doubt it was that in this case. Or maybe it was...?
Also as a developer I know that software can have bugs that cause unnecessary CPU or GPU usage. You're just speculating here without hard evidence... If you can monitor CPU/GPU clock speeds and/or temperatures while this happens and show us that it's not high, then I will stand corrected.
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Why can't I be serious? Fact is that the SoC is one die containing CPU, GPU and RAM. In normal circumstances these are the highest consumers of power and generators of heat. An exception is if you've got heavy traffic on radio though, and I mean max bandwidth on a LTE or 802.11ac connection, for an extended period of time; I doubt it was that in this case. Or maybe it was...?
Also as a developer I know that software can have bugs that cause unnecessary CPU or GPU usage. You're just speculating here without hard evidence... If you can monitor CPU/GPU clock speeds and/or temperatures while this happens and show us that it's not high, then I will stand corrected.
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well i tested it and it seems you were right but still i cant get it, why when both apps (creative effects and style potrait) use around 80% of the CPU, creative effects takes around 14-15 minutes to close and the style potrait just 2 minutes??

Maybe it's a bug. Is this a brand new app? I don't run stock sorry, not up to speed on the Sony specific stuff.
It could also be a simple case of neglect for our ol' Z.
Either way, cross your fingers and hope it gets solved in an update. It certainly sounds like it shouldn't be working so intensively.
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CosmicDan said:
Maybe it's a bug. Is this a brand new app? I don't run stock sorry, not up to speed on the Sony specific stuff.
It could also be a simple case of neglect for our ol' Z.
Either way, cross your fingers and hope it gets solved in an update. It certainly sounds like it shouldn't be working so intensively.
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no its not new and its not a case of neglect because i had flashed the app to my phone quite some time ago

But your OP says you installed some app which Sony just released?
I meant neglect from Sony; ever since KitKat our devices have had issues. But, on that note, how does (whatever old app you're talking about) working fine in the past but worse now = not a case of neglect? If the app is an identical version and your firmware is also identical version to when it was working well, but now its not working well, then it could very well be a case of wear and tear. I don't really understand, I'm just going through the process of elimination.
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CosmicDan said:
But your OP says you installed some app which Sony just released?
I meant neglect from Sony; ever since KitKat our devices have had issues. But, on that note, how does (whatever old app you're talking about) working fine in the past but worse now = not a case of neglect? If the app is an identical version and your firmware is also identical version to when it was working well, but now its not working well, then it could very well be a case of wear and tear. I don't really understand, I'm just going through the process of elimination.
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i flashed the app from a mod, the app wasnt meant to be installed at sony xperia z but now sony published the app at Play Store for all xperia (i think some old ones are not combatible). The app had the same issues before but i didnt want to post a thread before since it wasnt officialy combatible with my phone

Is your OPT feeling pretty slow?

Hey all,
I bought a One Plus 2 yesterday (coming from the Galaxy S6) and immediately noticed how unbearably laggy the Oxygen OS was - am I the only one experiencing this? I get a few moments of fluid animations but then things just get choppy, especially compared to the Galaxy S6. I've since put the Chinese Hydrogen version on and it seems a lot more fluid but I just feel like it should be a lot faster? I've been considering just selling it on but this phone is perfect in nearly every other regard.
I was thinking that maybe this is just how things will be until some decent updates come along? Unless I'm the only person experiencing the choppiness.. Then I suppose I should be pretty worried indeed. As a point of reference, I've also used the Moto X 2014 and Z3 Compact which both seemed considerably smoother in operation. Some input from you guys would be great, along with any tips you might have to get the most out of this amazing phone.
Thanks.

Lol coming from an s6 you think its laggy? I switched from an s6 and compared to that this is the fastest phone I've ever had
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Yes it is laggy as oxygen is still on beta, but you should wait and give time as it is a beast, give some time to one plus and they will fix the issues

You did update it right? The build it comes with is as dog**** as the home button is

Just update to 2.0.2 and u'll be fine.
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Yup.. It usually lags when you switch to airplane mode.
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Phone is brand new. OxygenOS is in beta.. Let some development happen man, these specs dont lie

I updated and just got mine! Excited but it is slow. Some things up

Seems fast to me. I showed the OPT to my coworker who has an S6 Edge and he was impressed. He said it was faster than his S6. I didn't even ask him that.

Lol you obviously didn't use the fingerprint sensor to turn it on then or try to go to the home screen pressing the sensor home button. Jk

I've had several phones with fingerprint scanners and this one is by far the fastest so far and the phone is quick. Home button works great also. Maybe I just got lucky.

Yeah mine's pretty slow. I went into a phone store today and tried out the Huawei Mate 7, which on paper looks way behind the Oneplus 2, and it KILLED my OPT when opening apps.
I often get lag here and there, but this is less of a problem for me. My mane gripe is how long it takes to open an app. Like, I hit the Phone icon and it literally takes up to a second to launch. That Mate 7 was practically instant.
What gives, Oneplus?

A lot of the issues I initially had with oxygen were fixed after disabling hardware buttons, including excessive battery drain, heating up, and lag similar to what you're seeing. Maybe it has something to do with grounding? Or maybe I just got used to it :S

This phone is just not meant to be a daily driver with the frustration it brings. If you want to be less mad install cm 12.1. Makes things much better than oxygen

Try flashing OxygenOS 2.0.2 again and then factory reset. You may see a bump in speed. I personally have no quirks with the fluidity of the phone. While it does have some bugs all over the place, never once did the phone feel sluggish. But with that said, the OS does need a lot more polish to really make it feel truly complete. Right now despite all the OTAs OxygenOS still feels incomplete, or maybe its because I'm too used to the versatility of a CM based ROM.

It's slow for about a minute after boot but then things are really fast

Jazza2246 said:
Hey all,
I bought a One Plus 2 yesterday (coming from the Galaxy S6) and immediately noticed how unbearably laggy the Oxygen OS was - am I the only one experiencing this? I get a few moments of fluid animations but then things just get choppy, especially compared to the Galaxy S6. I've since put the Chinese Hydrogen version on and it seems a lot more fluid but I just feel like it should be a lot faster? I've been considering just selling it on but this phone is perfect in nearly every other regard.
I was thinking that maybe this is just how things will be until some decent updates come along? Unless I'm the only person experiencing the choppiness.. Then I suppose I should be pretty worried indeed. As a point of reference, I've also used the Moto X 2014 and Z3 Compact which both seemed considerably smoother in operation. Some input from you guys would be great, along with any tips you might have to get the most out of this amazing phone.
Thanks.
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Actually, the problem is because 2 google apps are using your CPU way too much. Disable the sheets and the slides apps in settings and you should be fine. CPU usage dropped by 40% in cpu-z after disabling these apps.
Update:- actually the CPU now has really less usage after disabling (5% after disabling.).

[email protected] said:
Actually, the problem is because 2 google apps are using your CPU way too much. Disable the sheets and the slides apps in settings and you should be fine. CPU usage dropped by 40% in cpu-z after disabling these apps.
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That's something new.. I anyway just remove these apps from my /system..
Im on OOS 2.1.2 rooted.. Having xposed and AK kernel.. No lags.. Super fluid..

For those complaining about the slow app launching, download a 3rd party launcher and you'll see instantly the difference in app launching. I prefer google now launcher to maintain that stock feel.

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That's something new.. I anyway just remove these apps from my /system..
Im on OOS 2.1.2 rooted.. Having xposed and AK kernel.. No lags.. Super fluid..
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You see, I saw some lag and I went to developer options>show CPU usage and the most of the CPU usage came from the sheets and slides apps.

Lag!

In the past few days I have went from the Z5 compact, then upgrading from the compact to the Z5. One serious issue with both devices is lag! My previous device was the Lg G3 and it was far smoother then this so called upgrade. Also, the camera had more detail on old G3. Whats going on, is this issue relate to everyone?

Typical Sony release firmware, it will get better with updates

My blade s6 felt smoother, somethings wrong I'll post a video up later it's lagging on simple things like swiping from home screens

My home screen is fine. I experinece lag when closing apps and opening the camera. Hope this gets fixed soon or I will be going with the G4

You should restore original config

I tried a factory reset when I had the Z5 Compact. Don't think its worth trying on the Z5 also lol

Does this phone also lag when scrolling in apps or browsing the web?

Man i have the G3 too, I'm scared to upgrade now. The G3 has been a great phone ,that is why I returned my Moto X pure because it did not feel like much of an upgrade besides the front speakers. I was so close on ordering the Z5 through amazon. Guess I'll wait for the Lumina 950XL with it's liquid cooled 810(like that'll matter)

When browsing I get the Odd stutter
Other apps seem fine tho..

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Man i have the G3 too, I'm scared to upgrade now. The G3 has been a great phone ,that is why I returned my Moto X pure because it did not feel like much of an upgrade besides the front speakers. I was so close on ordering the Z5 through amazon. Guess I'll wait for the Lumina 950XL with it's liquid cooled 810(like that'll matter)
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Yeah man. G3 is a really good phone, could of done me another year easy. Tied in a contract now tho, hope Sony release an update to optimise their firmware.

Aw man,contracts suck lol. Keep us posted about any SW updates and the aftermath. Thanks

Are you guys with lag uninstalling the bloatware that comes with the phone? Specifically avg

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Are you guys with lag uninstalling the bloatware that comes with the phone? Specifically avg
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Yup.

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Are you guys with lag uninstalling the bloatware that comes with the phone? Specifically avg
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The thing is we shouldn't need to uninstall anything it's a 810 with 3gig it should be snappy as hell

The strangest thing has happened. The phone is now suddenly smooth! No idea why, but there you go lol.

yea each phone Needs to settle at first, especially when you synced all stuff and the System Needs to create The art files...therefore after full sync and redownload of all apps rebooting helps really !

I am guessing its the SD810. Also my Z4 tablet is lagging a lot. My Z3 Compact tablet is much smoother.

Reilly9 said:
The strangest thing has happened. The phone is now suddenly smooth! No idea why, but there you go lol.
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so your finding it completely smooth now? no lag anymore?

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so your finding it completely smooth now? no lag anymore?
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It was smooth for a few hours, but the lag has returned again :/
Camera isn't as sharp as my old G3 which I'm annoyed about as I got the upgrade to have a better camera for my son coming
along.
I expected maybe a few small bugs as the phone is only out, but nothing as bad as this is.

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It was smooth for a few hours, but the lag has returned again :/
Camera isn't as sharp as my old G3 which I'm annoyed about as I got the upgrade to have a better camera for my son coming
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I expected maybe a few small bugs as the phone is only out, but nothing as bad as this is.
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Dam that's not good. I used to have a G3 too so I was looking for my next phone to be an improvement.
Hmm, do you expect it to get smoother after software updates or do you think it lags because of the 810?