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4.3 features leaked[ probably these]

No idea when its releasing I guess Jan end ,but this is true ,features are leaked.
Managed to get hold of these improvements when working on it. I will keep u updated as soon as I can get more info
My id :[email protected]
HDR IMPROVEMENT
TOUCH DRIVERS UPDATED ,AS EVERY MAJOR UPDATE DOES
BATTERY PROBLEM SOLVED
BATTERY SUCK STOPPED. the x- reality enhanced for sharper images.
Game lag fixed.
Launcher updated.
Panorama corrector
Depth variation improved for visual effects.
Sony®Alfred

Whats game lag, why is it bravia engine 2 when it was suppose to be an upgrade going to x reality engine. I actually wish they would add a tweakable setting for x reality. Really like the color and contrast calibration but thing become pixelated and too sharp. And what was the battery problem?

I am not sure how relaiable is this but at first it looks like a minor update. There is no camera enhancements???
can you elaborate more on these points
BATTERY SUCK STOPPED. THE BUG WAS SUCKING
Game lag fixed.
do you mean just improved battery life? I am not aware of any of these two bugs
what is bravia engin2? do you mean X-reality?
and what do you mean by
Depth variation improved for visual effects.
is it camera improvements?

Sony spoke we get 4.3 in December
i wait for 4k video

any camera improvement?

ahomad said:
I am not sure how relaiable is this but at first it looks like a minor update. There is no camera enhancements???
can you elaborate more on these points
BATTERY SUCK STOPPED. THE BUG WAS SUCKING
Game lag fixed.
do you mean just improved battery life? I am not aware of any of these two bugs
what is bravia engin2? do you mean X-reality?
and what do you mean by
Depth variation improved for visual effects.
is it camera improvements?
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The lag could be a driver optimization, Final fantasy 4 lags a bit, but i could be fault of SE sucky developers for android

I haven't got full info about the update
I will try to find out about camera updates.
Depth variation means 3d visualization improved.
Overheat u know
Suc k battery because of a minor change
I will try to update u about x reality
Sony®Alfred

fer2503 said:
any camera improvement?
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i think there will be some improvement bcos leaked images taken from z1s with 4.3 jellybean and with the same cam hardware has cam firmware as f400(from exif info) meanwhile we have f310 with the latest .257 firmware................so z1 will also be updated.

GPKrzychuXxX said:
Sony spoke we get 4.3 in December
i wait for 4k video
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Yeah that is an interesting one, I think you will be waiting a while. Yes the CPU is capable but I don't believe that the internal USB interface is fast enough to cope with decent frame rates at 4k, because you will be wanting to save these to SD due to the size, and I don't think 10-12MB/s will cut it. Unless Sony can pull a rabbit out of the hat
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Asadroid said:
The lag could be a driver optimization, Final fantasy 4 lags a bit, but i could be fault of SE sucky developers for android
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It is most likely to be the Linux & Java memory management, and the garbage collection events causing micro pauses. I have one game which is pretty simple which has some lags on the Z1.

Obvious troll is obvious?
Sent from my Xperia Z1 using Tapatalk

Jiyeon90 said:
Obvious troll is obvious?
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and I thought everybody got trolled... can someone close this thread?

Jiyeon90 said:
Obvious troll is obvious?
Sent from my Xperia Z1 using Tapatalk
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Was wondering for some time now why the OP isn't banned yet. Well, that's what the ignore option is for I guess.

Jiyeon90 said:
Obvious troll is obvious?
Sent from my Xperia Z1 using Tapatalk
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jontr said:
and I thought everybody got trolled... can someone close this thread?
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DeKubus said:
Was wondering for some time now why the OP isn't banned yet. Well, that's what the ignore option is for I guess.
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Have any of you reported this to the mods then...
Please don't talk about trolls and asking why someone has not been banned if you have not reported the thread.
Use the small orange triangle at the top right of each post to report it.

Reported already
tap tap

If u want shut it I don't mind urcat loss .
Sony®Alfred

scorpio_K said:
If u want shut it I don't mind urcat loss .
Sony®Alfred
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Not really, 4.3 has already officially been promised for December (Not January as your leaked information says)
So I doubt the reliability of your information

scorpio_K said:
If u want shut it I don't mind urcat loss .
Sony®Alfred
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Urcat
LIST OF IMPROVEMENTS:
THREAD CLOSED
OP WARNED TO NOT POST NOT CONFIRMED INFORMATIONS
URCAT IS HAPPIER
But seriously those informations are not confirmed and are purely speculative. Wait few weeks and we all will see what were updated and what not.

I'm not a happy camper anymore

I installed the 14.3.A.0.757 update. Now my Z1, which ran so smoothly and hassle free on 4.3 is giving me stutter/lag more often on the home screen, when opening apps, and in settings menus
I did a full factory reset and it just comes back again after a couple of days. Apps themselves also appear to behave more sluggish than they used to. Maybe it's just my perception but I also feel like they open a slight bit slower and are less responsive when open. I like having voice activated Google Now but the increase in lag is bothersome, and doesn't feel as smooth and responsive overall as it used to. I don't run a ROM and I don't even use a 3rd party launcher (there was no improvement with Nova on it, I tried that too)

I have the same thing even though i didn't experience the smoothness of 4.3.
I notice apps like phone(book), e-mail/gmail and facebook have alot of lag during scrolling. Just like chrome hangs when i scroll on big pages. This is much worse than on my old xperia S.

I see the same symptoms. The phone seems to run slower and slower until I reboot it or it reboots itself.
Was worse on 4.3 though.
-KJ

)s5 and z1
z1 and s5

Thanks but I wasn't speaking of the camera

N77NS said:
z1 and s5
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Your photo with the Z1, is just a bad take (not the same exposure, not same position)... it does many better... and I don't think that the S5 is really better that the Z1, on the party of photos... of more, this are of Screenshots, no??? because if yes, you isn't correct... the rendering at level of the screen is not the same, it's a amoled with pixels dead for the black, the constraste is more efficient... compare the with the Z2... Samsung without Amoled, they're lost (screen and battery life( battery life is bad with, imagine without Amoled)... Samsung = ****... Sorry
Amoled = Samsung oled
Oled = Sony
Sony have abandoned this technology because the rendering of colors is bad... (false colors)
And it's not the subject...

Not just a screen shot, but two such images were taken with autofocus. Z1 and s5 with 16 megap.but certainly not I'll never take ... Sony is not the topic .... but proof enough that Sony makes fade left with much poorer quality
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I love Sony but did not receive the quality for the money that I gave you ... and I was very disappointed .... Samsung has won over the picture quality .... I am personally convinced of it when I got now .. . going to be sold and can not take even half the money for which I bought it .... disappointing ..... Camera disaster ....

N77NS said:
Not just a screen shot, but two such images were taken with autofocus. Z1 and s5 with 16 megap.but certainly not I'll never take ... Sony is not the topic .... but proof enough that Sony makes fade left with much poorer quality
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I love Sony but did not receive the quality for the money that I gave you ... and I was very disappointed .... Samsung has won over the picture quality .... I am personally convinced of it when I got now .. . going to be sold and can not take even half the money for which I bought it .... disappointing ..... Camera disaster ....
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So, I was right ... And sorry I'm little stupid ... reread my post... you are a seller of Samsung ???

I'm not the seller or Sony .... changing .... anyway ... is bad for everything .... the only thing that is waterproof. .. Nothing more .... Rating -2

N77NS said:
I'm not the seller or Sony .... changing .... anyway ... is bad for everything .... the only thing that is waterproof. .. Nothing more .... Rating -2
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Auto superior with my rom, in 8Mp
The dogs are in action...
You are very bad for take a good ?...
Samsung cheating in all directions, in benchmark, with false colors, with a oled technology, and illegal copy, and Sony provided Samsung for the captors, copy all makes...
Brief, you must go in Samsung section...

Dudes wt F? This thread is about lag problems I'm having since the update.

something is definitely not right with the update, stock 4.4 is more optimized and runs better than lower memory consumption but the Z1 kit kat is the exact opposite. My phone feels snappier with 4.4 but some apps are slower especially the Camera app.

omnius1 said:
Dudes wt F? This thread is about lag problems I'm having since the update.
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My best advice is of
Flash my rom ...

I made this topic, i hope it helps.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...g-while-scrolling/td-p/691317/highlight/false

This scares me because I just purchased a used Z1 off Swappa and hope this doesn't happen to my unit.

I found a solution that seems to have helped a lot. First I uninstalled a few apps that were mildly offensive at always-on resource usage: BBM, Appsi, and Zooper. Then I enabled developer options and changed the following settings to:
Windows Animation Scale: 0.5x
Transition Animation Scale: 0.5x
Animator duration scale: off
Then restarted my phone.
It appears so far that I'm pretty close if not identical to the .681 build in smoothness and speeds. I'm going to leave it for a week or so now to see if any bad lag creeps back in again, but if not then I'm happy again.

omnius1 said:
Dudes wt F? This thread is about lag problems I'm having since the update.
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This is XDA, Flash a Custom Rom man,
your bloatware iunduced Lag will be gone, try Kitslim. I have none of the problems your complaining about and Even though I've underclocked the CPU to 1.958 Ghz
regards

My Z1's camera app crashes when I try and take a picture, lags like hell and randomly reboots all the time

rok99 said:
My Z1's camera app crashes when I try and take a picture, lags like hell and randomly reboots all the time
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What Rom are you on?

raziel123 said:
What Rom are you on?
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None at all, my bootloader is locked.

Slow motion on the S5

Hello,
Im trying to decide what device will be my next phone and i have been strongly considering the s5 but there is something that i would like to have on my next phone and that is the ability to do slow motion, but i only in a portion of the clip and i can't find a definitive answer as to whether the s5 does that or not.
I know it can record in slow motion, 120fps, but can i then edit and select a portion to be in slow motion and other at regular speed (like on htc one and on the z2)?
If not from stock, is there an alternative app or mod that allows me to do that?
It might not seem like a big deal, but it was a feature i would like to have on the camera because i have had some moments where i it would have been nice to have that feature.
Thank you!

griffin_1 said:
Hello,
Im trying to decide what device will be my next phone and i have been strongly considering the s5 but there is something that i would like to have on my next phone and that is the ability to do slow motion, but i only in a portion of the clip and i can't find a definitive answer as to whether the s5 does that or not.
I know it can record in slow motion, 120fps, but can i then edit and select a portion to be in slow motion and other at regular speed (like on htc one and on the z2)?
If not from stock, is there an alternative app or mod that allows me to do that?
It might not seem like a big deal, but it was a feature i would like to have on the camera because i have had some moments where i it would have been nice to have that feature.
Thank you!
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The camera on the Z series isn't bad but i've found that the s5 is superior, once rooted on the z series you will lose the bionz engine, not to mention that when you zoom in the pictures are incredibly grainy, i would stay stick with the s5, it's a beast of a phone and the 120fps shooting works just as good as the z does. There is an editor on the handset already and there are tonnes of them you can get for windows and android.

dladz said:
The camera on the Z series isn't bad but i've found that the s5 is superior, once rooted on the z series you will lose the bionz engine, not to mention that when you zoom in the pictures are incredibly grainy, i would stay stick with the s5, it's a beast of a phone and the 120fps shooting works just as good as the z does. There is an editor on the handset already and there are tonnes of them you can get for windows and android.
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I didnt know that root on the z2 made it lose functions. Thats a shame :/
The camera on the s5 does seem impressive, not as much in low light but still. But the editor on s5 you mention, do you know if it will allow to speed up some parts of the vídeo and leave others in slow mo?

griffin_1 said:
I didnt know that root on the z2 made it lose functions. Thats a shame :/
The camera on the s5 does seem impressive, not as much in low light but still. But the editor on s5 you mention, do you know if it will allow to speed up some parts of the vídeo and leave others in slow mo?
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Well not rooting but unlocking the bootloader, apologies. One of the easiest devices to root though, unlocking the bootloader will only allow you to install custom recoveries, personally I wouldn't bother, retain your warranty and you're only an FTF flash away from complete stock, no harm done.
Even after unlocking the bootloader the camera is still decent, there is a drop in clarity but it's not a deal breaker, but either with or without losing features, the S5 is still superior imho.
I'm just downloading the editor from samsung apps to check for you, but i'm guessing that you can.

dladz said:
Well not rooting but unlocking the bootloader, apologies. One of the easiest devices to root though, unlocking the bootloader will only allow you to install custom recoveries, personally I wouldn't bother, retain your warranty and you're only an FTF flash away from complete stock, no harm done.
Even after unlocking the bootloader the camera is still decent, there is a drop in clarity but it's not a deal breaker, but either with or without losing features, the S5 is still superior imho.
I'm just downloading the editor from samsung apps to check for you, but i'm guessing that you can.
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A huge thank you! I don't have access to a s5 and the info on that is not very specific, it would be great if it was possible to even just record slow speed and then speed it up(its the other way around on other devices, but it ends up being the same).
I wasn't aware of that about the z2, but yeah, aside from some functions on the z2 from what i have seen, the s5 seems to be better and its one of major points for the s5 for me.

No problem mate, but i'm afraid it doesn't, not with the stock editor, but there are others which you could use which will do the same, not sure which ones but there are quite a few, i'm almost certain that this can be done on windows.

dladz said:
No it doesn't, not with the stock editor, but there are others which you could use which will do the same, not sure which ones but there are quite a few, i'm almost certain that this can be done on windows.
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On windows, software like after effects or maybe even other free video editors can probably do it. I have to try it.
I would rather have it on the phone though =/ Its a shame that samsung didn't follow the trend from other manufactures for handling slow motion.
If i end up finding an app that does that on android, i will let you know also!
Thank you for all the help!

griffin_1 said:
On windows, software like after effects or maybe even other free video editors can probably do it. I have to try it.
I would rather have it on the phone though =/ Its a shame that samsung didn't follow the trend from other manufactures for handling slow motion.
If i end up finding an app that does that on android, i will let you know also!
Thank you for all the help!
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Thanks mate and good luck, i'll take a look for one myself too, will report here if i do.
Cheers
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@griffin_1 This ones not too bad, just done a video now https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.muvee.reaction&hl=en_GB
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coaches eye also looks pretty good.

dladz said:
Thanks mate and good luck, i'll take a look for one myself too, will report here if i do.
Cheers
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@griffin_1 This ones not too bad, just done a video now https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.muvee.reaction&hl=en_GB
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coaches eye also looks pretty good.
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Those seem to do what i want Especially the first one, i need to try it.
Hopefully my s5 will arrive tomorrow and i will test it out
You recorded regular video on samsung camera and then slowed it down on the app? Since samsung processes the video to slow it down, can it be used on the app and then increase or decrease the speed? I also want to try record with smooth motion(60fps) and then slow it down to see what it looks like, probably not as good as 120fps but it might be enough to do what i want.

griffin_1 said:
Those seem to do what i want Especially the first one, i need to try it.
Hopefully my s5 will arrive tomorrow and i will test it out
You recorded regular video on samsung camera and then slowed it down on the app? Since samsung processes the video to slow it down, can it be used on the app and then increase or decrease the speed? I also want to try record with smooth motion(60fps) and then slow it down to see what it looks like, probably not as good as 120fps but it might be enough to do what i want.
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Yea won't be as good but it won't look too bad. All these ice bucket challenges floating around slow mo is a good idea for it.
I just slowed down a regular vid.

Phone is laggy even when cold

Has anybody else found this. For example, unlocking the phone. Or turning the alarm off. Or pulling down the notification shade. Very laggy - 5 to 10 seconds to respond sometimes. My z3y was MUCH more responsive.
Sent from my Xperia Z3+/Z4.

AMoosa said:
Has anybody else found this.
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Nope.

Try a clean wipe
Sent from my E6553 using Tapatalk

Try clearing data/cache of the launcher app from settings - apps - all. Also avoid live wallpapers if you got any.

schecter7 said:
Try clearing data/cache of the launcher app from settings - apps - all. Also avoid live wallpapers if you got any.
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Thank you for your suggestions. I use Nova launcher. And no live wallpapers - I find them an unnecessary use of resources.
Sent from my Xperia Z3+/Z4.

Well, then you could try the stock launcher. If the lag is gone, then it's definitely caused by Nova in the first place. I've seen this before on other phones.

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Well, then you could try the stock launcher. If the lag is gone, then it's definitely caused by Nova in the first place. I've seen this before on other phones.
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Dunno, for me, Nova seemed to actually speed things up. Being fast is one of its selling points, after all.

I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed with the Z3+. I previously owned a z2, z3 and z3 tablet compact and all of those were far more responsive and less laggy than the z3+. Hell even my Moto X 2014 puts the z3+ to shame. I love Sony products but have been massively put off them after the shoddy Z3+, this is not even mentioning the fact that most other xperia phones, including the z1, have the 5.1 update yet there's no sign of it for the z3+. A bit of a rant but its a poor show by Sony.
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ronak47 said:
I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed with the Z3+. I previously owned a z2, z3 and z3 tablet compact and all of those were far more responsive and less laggy than the z3+. Hell even my Moto X 2014 puts the z3+ to shame. I love Sony products but have been massively put off them after the shoddy Z3+, this is not even mentioning the fact that most other xperia phones, including the z1, have the 5.1 update yet there's no sign of it for the z3+. A bit of a rant but its a poor show by Sony.
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I agree. It's a real shame. I'm gonna try a full reset tonight and see if that helps any. I don't have much installed on the phone. To be honest, it was much more responsive when I first got it, so I'm hoping this helps. I'll keep you posted.
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I found my Z3+ to be unacceptably laggy as well. I moved to the One Plus Two phone last week and could not be happier. I may try the Z5 when it's released as I prefer the smaller 5.2" screen size versus the OP2 5.5" screen.
I had previously been using the Z2 with CM 12.1 nightlies but could not deal with the poor phone calling quality.

MrPACS said:
I found my Z3+ to be unacceptably laggy as well. I moved to the One Plus Two phone last week and could not be happier. I may try the Z5 when it's released as I prefer the smaller 5.2" screen size versus the OP2 5.5" screen.
I had previously been using the Z2 with CM 12.1 nightlies but could not deal with the poor phone calling quality.
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Does it overheat?

The lagging even happens when the phone is stone cold.
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illetyus said:
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Does what overheat; the Z3+? Not at all since the latest firmware was released; .251.

The Z3+ does lag for me while scrolling left/right or up/down even when the Phone is NOT hot. There can be no denial of this fact. My Opinion.
Note: All this is even after I did a full clean wipe, de-bloated my phone heavily, and disabled ALL google services save for a few mandatory ones.

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Does what overheat; the Z3+? Not at all since the latest firmware was released; .251.
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No i meant The "Oneplus 2"

Do you have 28.0.A.8.251 firmware on your Z3+? I am asking because on this firmware I am not having lag anymore (a little bit after playing games but it is OK).

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No, not at all.
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Do you have 28.0.A.8.251 firmware on your Z3+? I am asking because on this firmware I am not having lag anymore (a little bit after playing games but it is OK).
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Yes, .251

[NUMINIT] said:
Dunno, for me, Nova seemed to actually speed things up. Being fast is one of its selling points, after all.
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Nova makes the phone way faster. Set scroll and animation speed to faster-than-light.
I've been so busy developing stuff and reflashing my phone that I've not had the chance to use it in daily use. That said, it feels faster than my Galaxy Note 4. using .251 firmware, it kicks the Galaxy's ass on an Antutu Benchmark, and that's even with what we know about Samsung cooking benchmarks on their devices. It got 53.5K to the Note 4's 48.3K

dl12345 said:
Nova makes the phone way faster. Set scroll and animation speed to faster-than-light.
I've been so busy developing stuff and reflashing my phone that I've not had the chance to use it in daily use. That said, it feels faster than my Galaxy Note 4. using .251 firmware, it kicks the Galaxy's ass on an Antutu Benchmark, and that's even with what we know about Samsung cooking benchmarks on their devices. It got 53.5K to the Note 4's 48.3K
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53.5 vs 48.3 doesn't seem like that big a jump considering the z3+ is 64 bit.
The annoying thing for me is lag when unlocking , or using WhatsApp, or the camera. Just takes ages (5-10 seconds) to respond.
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53.5 vs 48.3 doesn't seem like that big a jump considering the z3+ is 64 bit.
The annoying thing for me is lag when unlocking , or using WhatsApp, or the camera. Just takes ages (5-10 seconds) to respond.
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Mine does lag when unlocking, too, but not that much...

Anyone disappointed in ANY aspect of the v20?

Just curious if anyone is disappointed in the v20? I know some have already received their units.
The YouTube reviews are very mixed. Most seem positive, but I'm looking objectivity too. Not just the LG fans. Honesty.
Curious - thanks.

What reviews are you looking at? I've seen 95% very positive reviews.

i feel the screen could have been better.. i like the amoleds

The phone itself I love. There are software changes I could change.
Oh, I do wish there was an LED indicator. Makes it easier to know what's going on from across the room. 2nd screen is hard to read from afar.

I'm just trying to get used to LG again from using Samsung for the last year. I wish the stock launcher was a little bit....more. I used the stock touch-wiz on the S7 edge and Note 7 and actually liked it (I know, I know) and I feel like the LG launcher is a little meh in comparison. Switched to Smart Launcher and all is well there. I do sort of wish the screen was AMOLED, but that said, the screen on this thing is in no way bad. Otherwise, fantastic phone and so nice to be on a proper 5.7 screen again.

Has anyone found a way to schedule comfort mode? I don't like I have to go turn it on and off.
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Switched to Smart Launcher and all is well there.
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Try Nova. It works well with my v20

I will get mine tonight and will let you know what I dont like. I have a Nexus 6P at the moment and had 4 Note 7 in 1 month. The Note 7 was a great phone from the design but Touchwiz is so slow and laggy it was annoying. The screen of course was gorgeous and the camera was great. The 6P is in general fast but stock android is so blunt. I had Nexus phone for 4 years. The 6Ps camera is slow and the stock camera app is awfully simple. The AMOLED on the 6P is awful (yellow tint and dark). I rather have a good LCD than a bad AMOLED. On the N7 and the ^P battery life was just OK. Nothing to brag about.
I hope from the V20 that the screen is decent, the camera is fast and takes good pictures and that the battery life is decent. I am most concerned about battery life but we will see.

StaticMoot said:
I'm just trying to get used to LG again from using Samsung for the last year. I wish the stock launcher was a little bit....more. I used the stock touch-wiz on the S7 edge and Note 7 and actually liked it (I know, I know) and I feel like the LG launcher is a little meh in comparison. Switched to Smart Launcher and all is well there. I do sort of wish the screen was AMOLED, but that said, the screen on this thing is in no way bad. Otherwise, fantastic phone and so nice to be on a proper 5.7 screen again.
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Switch to a different launcher like Nova and then customize it the way you want it to look and that way you can take that look with you from phone to phone.

You also cannot turn off camera capture sound!!

EVOme said:
You also cannot turn off camera capture sound!!
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I hope that isn't true :-/
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EVOme said:
You also cannot turn off camera capture sound!!
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I am hoping you just dont know how to...otherwise...w.t.f.

pestilencec11 said:
I hope that isn't true :-/
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I am hoping you just dont know how to...otherwise...w.t.f.
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It is. Even with phone in silent it still makes the shutter sound. Nothing mutes it.

I use Nova launcher prime. I like Nova so much it's one of the few apps I bought gladly.
I'm shocked you can't disable the shutter sound. That sucks. I take pictures of my grandkids a lot and the sound makes them wild! LOL they want to hear it over and over... LOL ?
I guess that'll have to be something once it's rooted and custom rooms start showing up.
My last 2 phones have been Samsung. Galaxy S3 which I kept for nearly 2 years, and now the Samsung Note 4 which I've had for almost exactly 2 years. Before the S3 I was either using an iPhone or the LG 3D phone which I can't remember the model number.
So my dilemma is I read the specs for the v20 and I'm underwhelmed. Then I compare against my note 4 and don't see enough "upgrades"... I like the ticker screen on top, I think that's awesome. I like the wide angle camera but the images look so fish eyed I can't imagine using that for taking pictures of my kids (my main photo subjects) for scenery or artistic shots I'm sure it's amazing. But I'm no photographer, I want good pictures and fast camera response. (and no shutter speed)
I agree with the poster who said a good lcd screen is better than a bad amoled screen. I do wish it was amoled but it isn't so...
Thank you all for the info. Please keep it coming.

EVOme said:
It is. Even with phone in silent it still makes the shutter sound. Nothing mutes it.
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Have you tried a different camera app than the one that comes pre-installed?

SidneyD said:
Have you tried a different camera app than the one that comes pre-installed?
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No, I haven't. You have a goto 3rd party suggestion?

EVOme said:
Has anyone found a way to schedule comfort mode? I don't like I have to go turn it on and off.
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Try Nova. It works well with my v20
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Nova is a great launcher, don't get me wrong. I'm just getting lazy in setting up my phone and Smart Launcher lets me customize my phone without having to set up folders and organize things myself. Nova requires so much initial set-up and I just don't have the patience lately.
Back on subject though, the more I use this phone, the more I love it. It sucked to have to give back the Note 7, but this is a worthy replacement and feels so well built.

EVOme said:
No, I haven't. You have a goto 3rd party suggestion?
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I use Open Camera. I just checked it and you can turn off the shutter sound in it.

EVOme said:
No, I haven't. You have a goto 3rd party suggestion?
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It's a bit complex but it has a camera sounds options in it: Camera FV-5 I think it has a freebie trial version so you don't have to buy it. (Only reason I got it was to shoot RAW on my Nexus 6. The V20 already has the RAW option baked in.)
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Although, I just thought about this and I'm now curious to see if any of these 3rd party camera apps will work with the V20 since it has all the cameras and not just one front one back.

Do you have the korean version? Korean and Japanese phones have shutter sounds always-on to attempt to curtail "up-skirt" photography.

mgbotoe said:
I am hoping you just dont know how to...otherwise...w.t.f.
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I'm using the T-Mobile version. With the phone on silent, the camera makes no shutter sound. So it may only be the international version.