I installed the 14.3.A.0.757 update. Now my Z1, which ran so smoothly and hassle free on 4.3 is giving me stutter/lag more often on the home screen, when opening apps, and in settings menus
I did a full factory reset and it just comes back again after a couple of days. Apps themselves also appear to behave more sluggish than they used to. Maybe it's just my perception but I also feel like they open a slight bit slower and are less responsive when open. I like having voice activated Google Now but the increase in lag is bothersome, and doesn't feel as smooth and responsive overall as it used to. I don't run a ROM and I don't even use a 3rd party launcher (there was no improvement with Nova on it, I tried that too)
I have the same thing even though i didn't experience the smoothness of 4.3.
I notice apps like phone(book), e-mail/gmail and facebook have alot of lag during scrolling. Just like chrome hangs when i scroll on big pages. This is much worse than on my old xperia S.
I see the same symptoms. The phone seems to run slower and slower until I reboot it or it reboots itself.
Was worse on 4.3 though.
-KJ
)s5 and z1
z1 and s5
Thanks but I wasn't speaking of the camera
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z1 and s5
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Your photo with the Z1, is just a bad take (not the same exposure, not same position)... it does many better... and I don't think that the S5 is really better that the Z1, on the party of photos... of more, this are of Screenshots, no??? because if yes, you isn't correct... the rendering at level of the screen is not the same, it's a amoled with pixels dead for the black, the constraste is more efficient... compare the with the Z2... Samsung without Amoled, they're lost (screen and battery life( battery life is bad with, imagine without Amoled)... Samsung = ****... Sorry
Amoled = Samsung oled
Oled = Sony
Sony have abandoned this technology because the rendering of colors is bad... (false colors)
And it's not the subject...
Not just a screen shot, but two such images were taken with autofocus. Z1 and s5 with 16 megap.but certainly not I'll never take ... Sony is not the topic .... but proof enough that Sony makes fade left with much poorer quality
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I love Sony but did not receive the quality for the money that I gave you ... and I was very disappointed .... Samsung has won over the picture quality .... I am personally convinced of it when I got now .. . going to be sold and can not take even half the money for which I bought it .... disappointing ..... Camera disaster ....
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Not just a screen shot, but two such images were taken with autofocus. Z1 and s5 with 16 megap.but certainly not I'll never take ... Sony is not the topic .... but proof enough that Sony makes fade left with much poorer quality
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I love Sony but did not receive the quality for the money that I gave you ... and I was very disappointed .... Samsung has won over the picture quality .... I am personally convinced of it when I got now .. . going to be sold and can not take even half the money for which I bought it .... disappointing ..... Camera disaster ....
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So, I was right ... And sorry I'm little stupid ... reread my post... you are a seller of Samsung ???
I'm not the seller or Sony .... changing .... anyway ... is bad for everything .... the only thing that is waterproof. .. Nothing more .... Rating -2
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I'm not the seller or Sony .... changing .... anyway ... is bad for everything .... the only thing that is waterproof. .. Nothing more .... Rating -2
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Auto superior with my rom, in 8Mp
The dogs are in action...
You are very bad for take a good ?...
Samsung cheating in all directions, in benchmark, with false colors, with a oled technology, and illegal copy, and Sony provided Samsung for the captors, copy all makes...
Brief, you must go in Samsung section...
Dudes wt F? This thread is about lag problems I'm having since the update.
something is definitely not right with the update, stock 4.4 is more optimized and runs better than lower memory consumption but the Z1 kit kat is the exact opposite. My phone feels snappier with 4.4 but some apps are slower especially the Camera app.
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Dudes wt F? This thread is about lag problems I'm having since the update.
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My best advice is of
Flash my rom ...
I made this topic, i hope it helps.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...g-while-scrolling/td-p/691317/highlight/false
This scares me because I just purchased a used Z1 off Swappa and hope this doesn't happen to my unit.
I found a solution that seems to have helped a lot. First I uninstalled a few apps that were mildly offensive at always-on resource usage: BBM, Appsi, and Zooper. Then I enabled developer options and changed the following settings to:
Windows Animation Scale: 0.5x
Transition Animation Scale: 0.5x
Animator duration scale: off
Then restarted my phone.
It appears so far that I'm pretty close if not identical to the .681 build in smoothness and speeds. I'm going to leave it for a week or so now to see if any bad lag creeps back in again, but if not then I'm happy again.
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Dudes wt F? This thread is about lag problems I'm having since the update.
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This is XDA, Flash a Custom Rom man,
your bloatware iunduced Lag will be gone, try Kitslim. I have none of the problems your complaining about and Even though I've underclocked the CPU to 1.958 Ghz
regards
My Z1's camera app crashes when I try and take a picture, lags like hell and randomly reboots all the time
rok99 said:
My Z1's camera app crashes when I try and take a picture, lags like hell and randomly reboots all the time
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What Rom are you on?
raziel123 said:
What Rom are you on?
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None at all, my bootloader is locked.
Related
Just a couple things I would change as overall I'm happy with the phone...
The bezels are huge considering the screen size. I would love a tighter fitting chassis.
I have a 6906 so I would love to be able to unlock the boot loader. The entire root process was very complex compared to every phone I've owned. It is needlessly difficult for a new user.
Viewing angles could be better.
Aside from that I'm very happy with this phone.
What would you change?
Speakers, definitely.
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I would change it for a HTC one m8....
the damned ASF
Z2 is pretty much what I want Z1 to be.......
any way to change the colour of the Font in notification bar, that white on grey looks pretty bad (no root)
I thought there was a theme editor being released, I noticed on the Z2 that the font is blue
dedei said:
the damned ASF
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Apply screen protectors straight out of the box (front & back high quality made in Japan ones) and then you don't have to worry about the ASF.
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Z2 is pretty much what I want Z1 to be.......
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This guy knows how it is...except for the 16 gb, The Z2 should have a 32gb option specially after the whole kit kat mess
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Hmmm.. I would change a few things about the phone. But would i add? IR. Definitely.
Software update to z2 features. Z1 would get most of it..but of course...why would Sony do that? It intentional updates the flagship phone every 6 months...less reason for then to update their old ones
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Software update to z2 features. Z1 would get most of it..but of course...why would Sony do that? It intentional updates the flagship phone every 6 months...less reason for then to update their old ones
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actually they tense to do that with lot of the exclusive software side features after the new device is 6 months old. By the time the older devices get them, they also get the newer version. Like background defocus, the whole social camera thing all were released to older device that didn't ship with them.
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Speakers, definitely.
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Good call on this..
I find the sound for speakerphone and watching videos is terrible
I would give it some optimization love. The hardware is great, but it's performance is very bad. Ecspecially the ui makes it look like a low end device because of all the lags and stutters. Sad story. :'(
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Speakers, definitely.
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So True.
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koppee1 said:
Software update to z2 features. Z1 would get most of it..but of course...why would Sony do that? It intentional updates the flagship phone every 6 months...less reason for then to update their old ones
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+1
saintgein said:
I would give it some optimization love. The hardware is great, but it's performance is very bad. Ecspecially the ui makes it look like a low end device because of all the lags and stutters. Sad story. :'(
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Weird mine definitely doesn't do that
crixley said:
Weird mine definitely doesn't do that
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What is your setup then? And tbh, this makes me feel really bad because of me having this device for just a month or something. And even with a clean install of stock firmware it gives problems with that. Meanwhile the benchmarks etc are really good. 34k in antutu is no problem. That's also why i don't understand what's going on.
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Oh and it's mainly album, conversations and phonebook/call log which give way too much jank/stutter/lag in my opinion. Apps like chrome and gmail scroll pretty good, just like the ui combined with nova launcher. Almost no lag to be found there.
If I had the the Z2's screen, speakers and 32gb storage I would have the perfect phone
Sent from my Xperia Z1
saintgein said:
What is your setup then? And tbh, this makes me feel really bad because of me having this device for just a month or something. And even with a clean install of stock firmware it gives problems with that. Meanwhile the benchmarks etc are really good. 34k in antutu is no problem. That's also why i don't understand what's going on.
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Oh and it's mainly album, conversations and phonebook/call log which give way too much jank/stutter/lag in my opinion. Apps like chrome and gmail scroll pretty good, just like the ui combined with nova launcher. Almost no lag to be found there.
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Just running nuts stock rooted and deodexed kk.
I don't find it ever lags
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Just running nuts stock rooted and deodexed kk.
I don't find it ever lags
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I'm getting there also, i noticed that an app i used caused quite alot of lag. Noroot firewall. I changed it with Afwall+ and the lag is almost completely gone. I just experience some scroll lag when going through messaging or album, but i guess that's normal and will get less if i eventually get the bootloader unlocked and stuff like doomkernel installed. Until then i'm happy with the snappyness!
Btw, rajeev's black apps combined with aneurysm theme and 120fps timeshift also really help to make me love this phone more.
saintgein said:
I would give it some optimization love. The hardware is great, but it's performance is very bad. Ecspecially the ui makes it look like a low end device because of all the lags and stutters. Sad story. :'(
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If this lags then what won't ? on me it runs 100x times smoother than any other phone... M8 is close but not that smooth... apple is somewhere but not as near and finally samsung plastic toys arent even top 100 list...
Has anybody else found this. For example, unlocking the phone. Or turning the alarm off. Or pulling down the notification shade. Very laggy - 5 to 10 seconds to respond sometimes. My z3y was MUCH more responsive.
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Has anybody else found this.
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Nope.
Try a clean wipe
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Try clearing data/cache of the launcher app from settings - apps - all. Also avoid live wallpapers if you got any.
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Try clearing data/cache of the launcher app from settings - apps - all. Also avoid live wallpapers if you got any.
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Thank you for your suggestions. I use Nova launcher. And no live wallpapers - I find them an unnecessary use of resources.
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Well, then you could try the stock launcher. If the lag is gone, then it's definitely caused by Nova in the first place. I've seen this before on other phones.
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Well, then you could try the stock launcher. If the lag is gone, then it's definitely caused by Nova in the first place. I've seen this before on other phones.
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Dunno, for me, Nova seemed to actually speed things up. Being fast is one of its selling points, after all.
I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed with the Z3+. I previously owned a z2, z3 and z3 tablet compact and all of those were far more responsive and less laggy than the z3+. Hell even my Moto X 2014 puts the z3+ to shame. I love Sony products but have been massively put off them after the shoddy Z3+, this is not even mentioning the fact that most other xperia phones, including the z1, have the 5.1 update yet there's no sign of it for the z3+. A bit of a rant but its a poor show by Sony.
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I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed with the Z3+. I previously owned a z2, z3 and z3 tablet compact and all of those were far more responsive and less laggy than the z3+. Hell even my Moto X 2014 puts the z3+ to shame. I love Sony products but have been massively put off them after the shoddy Z3+, this is not even mentioning the fact that most other xperia phones, including the z1, have the 5.1 update yet there's no sign of it for the z3+. A bit of a rant but its a poor show by Sony.
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I agree. It's a real shame. I'm gonna try a full reset tonight and see if that helps any. I don't have much installed on the phone. To be honest, it was much more responsive when I first got it, so I'm hoping this helps. I'll keep you posted.
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I found my Z3+ to be unacceptably laggy as well. I moved to the One Plus Two phone last week and could not be happier. I may try the Z5 when it's released as I prefer the smaller 5.2" screen size versus the OP2 5.5" screen.
I had previously been using the Z2 with CM 12.1 nightlies but could not deal with the poor phone calling quality.
MrPACS said:
I found my Z3+ to be unacceptably laggy as well. I moved to the One Plus Two phone last week and could not be happier. I may try the Z5 when it's released as I prefer the smaller 5.2" screen size versus the OP2 5.5" screen.
I had previously been using the Z2 with CM 12.1 nightlies but could not deal with the poor phone calling quality.
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Does it overheat?
The lagging even happens when the phone is stone cold.
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Does it overheat?
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Does what overheat; the Z3+? Not at all since the latest firmware was released; .251.
The Z3+ does lag for me while scrolling left/right or up/down even when the Phone is NOT hot. There can be no denial of this fact. My Opinion.
Note: All this is even after I did a full clean wipe, de-bloated my phone heavily, and disabled ALL google services save for a few mandatory ones.
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Does what overheat; the Z3+? Not at all since the latest firmware was released; .251.
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No i meant The "Oneplus 2"
Do you have 28.0.A.8.251 firmware on your Z3+? I am asking because on this firmware I am not having lag anymore (a little bit after playing games but it is OK).
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No i meant The "Oneplus 2"
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No, not at all.
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Do you have 28.0.A.8.251 firmware on your Z3+? I am asking because on this firmware I am not having lag anymore (a little bit after playing games but it is OK).
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Yes, .251
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Dunno, for me, Nova seemed to actually speed things up. Being fast is one of its selling points, after all.
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Nova makes the phone way faster. Set scroll and animation speed to faster-than-light.
I've been so busy developing stuff and reflashing my phone that I've not had the chance to use it in daily use. That said, it feels faster than my Galaxy Note 4. using .251 firmware, it kicks the Galaxy's ass on an Antutu Benchmark, and that's even with what we know about Samsung cooking benchmarks on their devices. It got 53.5K to the Note 4's 48.3K
dl12345 said:
Nova makes the phone way faster. Set scroll and animation speed to faster-than-light.
I've been so busy developing stuff and reflashing my phone that I've not had the chance to use it in daily use. That said, it feels faster than my Galaxy Note 4. using .251 firmware, it kicks the Galaxy's ass on an Antutu Benchmark, and that's even with what we know about Samsung cooking benchmarks on their devices. It got 53.5K to the Note 4's 48.3K
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53.5 vs 48.3 doesn't seem like that big a jump considering the z3+ is 64 bit.
The annoying thing for me is lag when unlocking , or using WhatsApp, or the camera. Just takes ages (5-10 seconds) to respond.
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AMoosa said:
53.5 vs 48.3 doesn't seem like that big a jump considering the z3+ is 64 bit.
The annoying thing for me is lag when unlocking , or using WhatsApp, or the camera. Just takes ages (5-10 seconds) to respond.
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Mine does lag when unlocking, too, but not that much...
Can anyone please report if they are seeing lots of crazy frame drops on this phone? I'm running rooted Xxx No Limits, but have observed the same on Elemental OS too. When you turn on 'Profile GPU Rendering' in the Developer Settings to 'On screen bars', I see a crazy amount of frame drops every where. I bought this phone because it is suppose to offer the best smoothness and performance rivaling only the Pixel, specially after the fantastic 3T. Attached are some images showing the frame drops on even mundane tasks like scrolling Settings menu. Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
I use Action Launcher, but can anyone report if they see this on their stock launcher or other launchers?
PS: The phone 'seems' smooth and fast when doing these tasks. It doesn't seem to slow down and drop frames like crazy like an S8 or G6, which can be seen with the naked eye. It's only when I turn on GPU profiling that I can detect these frame drops. Is the GPU profiling reporting 'broken' and incorrectly reporting lots of frame drops? I'm confused.
Hey, I just checked and I got the exact same results, maybe even a bit more drops than you do. I'm using the stock launcher. Phone is absolutely smooth aside from that. I'm not sure, but this may be in correspondence with the jelly-scrolling issue? I'm not sure if I'm affected though, if yes, the jelly effect is minimal.
Are you affected by the jelly scrolling?
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Hey, I just checked and I got the exact same results, maybe even a bit more drops than you do. I'm using the stock launcher. Phone is absolutely smooth aside from that. I'm not sure, but this may be in correspondence with the jelly-scrolling issue? I'm not sure if I'm affected though, if yes, the jelly effect is minimal.
Are you affected by the jelly scrolling?
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I don't see the jelly scrolling effect on my phone. I'm not sure if this frame drop issue and the jelly scrolling effect are related. Its interesting to know that you see a lot more frame drops in the rendering.
i agreed with you, for this phone having the latest 835 which is suppose to give a straight line of performance (no frame drops) yet i see a lot of those
what the hell is going on with this phone ...
i dont know if its the phone or the softwere but im so returning, the only reason i bought was because of the 835 and because its was the latest and will give you continues performance, its all a lie
Probably because the screen is upside down!
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Probably because the screen is upside down!
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ha! True!
Its a cheap chinese knock off phone
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ha! True!
Its a cheap chinese knock off phone
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100%
Just tested on a Galaxy S8 and that graph looks even worst!!!!
What's happening?!?! Snap 835 is the culprit?
But I've seen a review with the HTC U11 and it doesn't do this.
Yeah mine is far from smooth as well, dunno,it just does not scroll smooth, my Nexus 5 on MIUI is soooo much smoother, way less frame drops.. I suppose theissue will vanish with the right ROM / Optmization, perhaps changing to a different CPU governor could help already..
Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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Its like the Jelly scrolling thing. I bet 85% of the people *****ing about it haven't even held a OP5. I watched those videos and then paid close attention to my 6P, guess what? It does the same damn thing!
About the only real issues I have seen are the WiFi and autobrightness issues, and camera performance. The WiFi seems to have been fixed and the camera could and most likely will be improved... I hope.
And from what I have seen out of the camera isn't bad, but it is very average for a phone bought 2 years ago. I just believe the hardware is much more capable of better results.
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Its like the Jelly scrolling thing. I bet 85% of the people *****ing about it haven't even held a OP5. I watched those videos and then paid close attention to my 6P, guess what? It does the same damn thing!
About the only real issues I have seen are the WiFi and autobrightness issues, and camera performance. The WiFi seems to have been fixed and the camera could and most likely will be improved... I hope.
And from what I have seen out of the camera isn't bad, but it is very average for a phone bought 2 years ago. I just believe the hardware is much more capable of better results.
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I'm right there with you brother.. The auto brightness has been a "real" issue for me. I have not had the jelly thing but then again I didn't go looking for it. The camera? Well I took what I though were some really nice looking photos over the 4th.
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Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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Thank god I am not the only one, reading through some of the threads I am starting to feel like I am the crazy here. People are like "The phone is smooth but this tool is showing frame drops, **** Oneplus, I am returning this phone."
So they will return a 500€ flagship which runs smooth and they dont notice lags without a tool? They expect that the CPU is the cause of frame drops?
Seriously, this must be a joke. Its just looking for a problem when you dont have one.
I do notice the jelly scrolling, but its minimal, so its kinda cool, like a subtle animation.
Camera could be better but nobody can say its bad, they just overhyped it and didn't meet expectation.
Battery life is like out of this world, I got 8h of SoT, good luck on other phones with that.
No other issues were encountered in the meantime. Perfect phone.
I get drops with the launcher, inc app drawer but it's not significant. I'm currently using a custom kernel as well.
Here's Chrome:
stebsgb1 said:
I get drops with the launcher, inc app drawer but it's not significant. I'm currently using a custom kernel as well.
Here's Chrome:
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The screenshot you have posted doesn't show any frame drops. Can you let e know what kernel you are using?
Here are my rom and kernel details. No governor settings changes etc, I'm just using the kernel out-the-box.
hi buddies ,
a lot of problems and lacks i've mentioned :
1 - auto focus is quiiiiite slow when recording a 1080 60fps video.
2- when editing an old video and after saving it, the new edited video is placed above all media in Gallery as if it was created originally today , it should be saved near non edited video.
3- in camera, i cannot modify exposure level when it is locked (like on iOS)
4- bad battery performance, heat, laggy animations on the new QG5 update, we have to wait until August update come out ,
that's really baaaad !
The phone is extremely poorly optimized, maaan whyyyyy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying:
guys tell me if you know any fixes or should me migrate to another flagship
PS : i have an SM-G950FD model with XSG firmware
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hi buddies ,
a lot of problems and lacks i've mentioned :
1 - auto focus is quiiiiite slow when recording a 1080 60fps video.
2- when editing an old video and after saving it, the new edited video is placed above all media in Gallery as if it was created originally today , it should be saved near non edited video.
3- in camera, i cannot modify exposure level when it is locked (like on iOS)
4- bad battery performance, heat, laggy animations on the new QG5 update, we have to wait until August update come out ,
that's really baaaad !
The phone is extremely poorly optimized, maaan whyyyyy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying:
guys tell me if you know any fixes or should me migrate to another flagship
PS : i have an SM-G950FD model with XSG firmware
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Try factory reset. If it will not help i recommend you to use your warranty and return your device for another piece. Issues you mentioning are NOT normal.
Dont root your device, dont try to fix it via different ROM or kernel. Because if you have somehow faulty device, and different rom / kernel etc. wont help, you will loose your warranty and then nobody will help you. :good:
ketman5001 said:
hi buddies ,
a lot of problems and lacks i've mentioned :
1 - auto focus is quiiiiite slow when recording a 1080 60fps video.
2- when editing an old video and after saving it, the new edited video is placed above all media in Gallery as if it was created originally today , it should be saved near non edited video.
3- in camera, i cannot modify exposure level when it is locked (like on iOS)
4- bad battery performance, heat, laggy animations on the new QG5 update, we have to wait until August update come out ,
that's really baaaad !
The phone is extremely poorly optimized, maaan whyyyyy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying:
guys tell me if you know any fixes or should me migrate to another flagship
PS : i have an SM-G950FD model with XSG firmware
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Just move to another flagship
You don't deserve S8
would firmwares differ between one CSC and another (in terms of bloatwares , performance .....) ????
ketman5001 said:
hi buddies ,
a lot of problems and lacks i've mentioned :
1 - auto focus is quiiiiite slow when recording a 1080 60fps video.
2- when editing an old video and after saving it, the new edited video is placed above all media in Gallery as if it was created originally today , it should be saved near non edited video.
3- in camera, i cannot modify exposure level when it is locked (like on iOS)
4- bad battery performance, heat, laggy animations on the new QG5 update, we have to wait until August update come out ,
that's really baaaad !
The phone is extremely poorly optimized, maaan whyyyyy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:crying :
guys tell me if you know any fixes or should me migrate to another flagship
PS : i have an SM-G950FD model with XSG firmware
would firmwares differ between one CSC and another (in terms of bloatwares , performance .....) ????
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No they don't differ.
1. What does slow mean for you? I've had no Problems with Auto-Focus so far.
2. Intended behavior. Gallery sorts by Date created. Editing a Video "creates" a new one with todays date. Nothing wrong with that.
3. What does "when it is locked" mean?
4. I'm on GQ5 without such problems. It sounds like an app is using your cpu constantly. Maybe try to troubleshoot which app is keeping your phone awake. Neither heat nor Battery drains are normal.
And finally, yes, Touchwiz (Samsung Experience...) is on the "heavy" side for a manufacturers skin. But credit where credit is due, this is by far the best optimized Iteration of it i have seen to date. The S8 is not on the same "snappiness" level as my 3T before it, but it's far from bad. I only experience minor hiccups in scrolling now and than, But that's about it. Everything else is perfectly fine.
Ijaz Farooq said:
Just move to another flagship
You don't deserve S8
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ok which flagship would you suggest ?
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ok which flagship would you suggest ?
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I you want "bug-free" and fluid experience, i would recommend Pixel or HTC U11. I really dislike OP5 so not recommending that.
But i really dont understand your issues. I have not a single problem with my S8+. In terms of bugs or snapiness.
Carach_CZ said:
I you want "bug-free" and fluid experience, i would recommend Pixel or HTC U11. I really dislike OP5 so not recommending that.
But i really dont understand your issues. I have not a single problem with my S8+. In terms of bugs or snapiness.
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ok simply try to record a video in 1080 60 fps , try the focus there it is sooo slowww , you can test it out right now
ketman5001 said:
ok simply try to record a video in 1080 60 fps , try the focus there it is sooo slowww , you can test it out right now
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Focus is blazing fast. Its dual pixel ffs, even S7 focuses like a devil. FHD with 60 fps is alright. Either you are troll, or you have a faulty device. Just go and replace it for a new one.
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Focus is blazing fast. Its dual pixel ffs, even S7 focuses like a devil. FHD with 60 fps is alright. Either you are troll, or you have a faulty device. Just go and replace it for a new one.
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auto focus is blazing fast on a 30 fps video recording , as i sad you can test it out , i'm not the only person who were complaining about this issue
Carach_CZ said:
Focus is blazing fast. Its dual pixel ffs, even S7 focuses like a devil. FHD with 60 fps is alright. Either you are troll, or you have a faulty device. Just go and replace it for a new one.
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check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE2_F_HuGkI
ketman5001 said:
auto focus is blazing on a 30 fps video recording , as i sad you can test it out , i'm not the only person who were complaining about this issue
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Edit: tried focusing on 60fps and yes, i have some issues too. Fortunately im not using 60fps so i dont care that much. Truth is that Samsung can fix it. Manual focus is locked within two seconds.
Carach_CZ said:
Edit: tried focusing on 60fps and yes, i have some issues too. Fortunately im not using 60fps so i dont care that much. Truth is that Samsung can fix it. Manual focus is locked within two seconds.
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samsung didn't fix this since years
Carach_CZ said:
I you want "bug-free" and fluid experience, i would recommend Pixel or HTC U11. I really dislike OP5 so not recommending that.
But i really dont understand your issues. I have not a single problem with my S8+. In terms of bugs or snapiness.
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Just because you don't have a problem doesn't mean others can't be having them.
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Just because you don't have a problem doesn't mean others can't be having them.
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I havent said anything like that, plus i already stated that i have problem with focusing when recording FHD 60FPS video too. So stay cool bro :fingers-crossed:
Carach_CZ said:
I havent said anything like that, plus i already stated that i have problem with focusing when recording FHD 60FPS video too. So stay cool bro :fingers-crossed:
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Lol you edited your comment. Good job. ?
Come ooon mates , i'm using 'contact us' menu to contact samsung ,hope they listen to me
s4shield said:
Lol you edited your comment. Good job.
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About two hours before you responded.
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About two hours before you responded.
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So than I responded to a comment that didn't exist. Hm. ?
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So than I responded to a comment that didn't exist. Hm. ?
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Obviously, or you wrote that comment unisono. Go mind something more important, i really dont have a mood and a time to loose on this bu******. Take care bro. :fingers-crossed:
A week ago I got myself a s8 ,I have an iPhone 7 Plus and I’m so sick of having to deal with this size , it feels like a brick, plus I don’t like the “psysical button “ , I wanted to get rid of it so I gave the s8 a try , and so I did and I loved the design , the screen , the camera ( night shots are better than the iPhone 7 in my opinion ) but the performance is just awful , innaceptable for a flagship , choppy scrolling , the framerate skips like crazy sometimes , it just ... lags :/
I couldn’t believe it after reading the rave reviews , so it turns out that the European version has the Exynos cpu instead of the snapdragon 835 and the benchmarks don’t tell the whole story , I tried uninstalling unnecessary apps , deactivating bloat apps , deactivating the side panel , using nova launcher ( without using root or freezing apps or something like that , but it didn’t help , did you guys just get used to the lag ? :/ have you read that the performance on the note 8 is better (the example version of course ) and if it is , so you think it’s because of the extra ram ?
I’m hopeful that Samsung will make the performance better with the Oreo update but that update will probably come in December / January , what are we supposed to do until then ?
Coming from a Huawei Mate 9 and resently activating my note 8(snapdragon) it ain't much better. Nothing about this phone is butter smooth.
Will be getting mate 10 next month. First Samsung since note 3/4.
Not horrible but expected more with specs/company
I honestly don´t know what you are talking about. Maybe I just don´t notice it.
I know up to the Galaxy S6 the Samsung Flagships were always lagging like crazy with StockROMs, but at least since the S7 it´s smooth like other Flagships. (Always talking about Exynos)
Where do you experience the lag? I just checked Twitter, Menus and browser an couldn´t notice any
I use Nova Launcher, which definitely improves the experience a lot. Combined with changing animations to 0.5x it almost never feels laggy. I rarely switch back to TouchWiz to see if it has improved, but always end up going back to Nova. I also use Gboard instead of Samsung keyboard, which also feels snappier and has better prediction.
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I use Nova Launcher, which definitely improves the experience a lot. Combined with changing animations to 0.5x it almost never feels laggy. I rarely switch back to TouchWiz to see if it has improved, but always end up going back to Nova. I also use Gboard instead of Samsung keyboard, which also feels snappier and has better prediction.
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Same here ! No more lag with this setup
I have the dual SIM international version (Exynos) since around launch date. I don't recall any instances of lag. On rare occasions there is the odd app crash.
I have not used an iPhone for any length of time to be able to compare, but we have a couple of iPads, one of them is relatively new and when using it for general browsing, reading, etc, I don't feel that I get a markedly better or smoother experience. Both S8 and iPad just work very well.
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A week ago I got myself a s8 ,I have an iPhone 7 Plus and I’m so sick of having to deal with this size , it feels like a brick, plus I don’t like the “psysical button “ , I wanted to get rid of it so I gave the s8 a try , and so I did and I loved the design , the screen , the camera ( night shots are better than the iPhone 7 in my opinion ) but the performance is just awful , innaceptable for a flagship , choppy scrolling , the framerate skips like crazy sometimes , it just ... lags :/
I couldn’t believe it after reading the rave reviews , so it turns out that the European version has the Exynos cpu instead of the snapdragon 835 and the benchmarks don’t tell the whole story , I tried uninstalling unnecessary apps , deactivating bloat apps , deactivating the side panel , using nova launcher ( without using root or freezing apps or something like that , but it didn’t help , did you guys just get used to the lag ? :/ have you read that the performance on the note 8 is better (the example version of course ) and if it is , so you think it’s because of the extra ram ?
I’m hopeful that Samsung will make the performance better with the Oreo update but that update will probably come in December / January , what are we supposed to do until then ?
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I have an iphone 7 256gb Red Edition and my S8 is no more laggy than my iphone, yes iphone can lag too. BTW, iphone is for sale. You need to be more specific where you see lags if you want people to help. I get lag when scrolling on Piano Tiles 2 but that's because he's a ****ty developer but the game is awesome. Need way more details.
I have exynos version with custom rom and i have no lags. If you what have fone with no lags at all buy iPhone. Every android have Little lags and glitches.
DEVELOPER OPTIONS (see screenshot) transition animation speed 0.5x
I read a post in the Essential Phone forum:
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"As far as snappyness, is it something like the transitions being slow or something else?
To make it more snappy, go into developer options and set the transition speed to .5 instead of 1. That should make things seem to zip."
I've attached a screenshot, but my transition animation speed is still at default 1x (i.e., not the 0.5x recommendation).
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I honestly don´t know what you are talking about. Maybe I just don´t notice it.
I know up to the Galaxy S6 the Samsung Flagships were always lagging like crazy with StockROMs, but at least since the S7 it´s smooth like other Flagships. (Always talking about Exynos)
Where do you experience the lag? I just checked Twitter, Menus and browser an couldn´t notice any
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Twitter, Facebook, Instagram , the play store and in the browser when the website hasnt fully loaded if you try to scroll its a lag fest
jhofseth said:
I read a post in the Essential Phone forum:
@IM0001 wrote:
"As far as snappyness, is it something like the transitions being slow or something else?
To make it more snappy, go into developer options and set the transition speed to .5 instead of 1. That should make things seem to zip."
I've attached a screenshot, but my transition animation speed is still at default 1x (i.e., not the 0.5x recommendation).
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its more like the screen "trembles" , they just don't feel smooth , it feels like the phone it's at its limit, it's just "choppy"
Facebook is a horrible app regarding optimization. I also noticed horrible lags there. Ended up uninstalling and i am now using it via chrome and its great. No lags, bettet battery etc.
I dont use twitter but instagram is fine on me no lags at all. As for playstore nothing can be done about it. It was always that way.
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Twitter, Facebook, Instagram , the play store and in the browser when the website hasnt fully loaded if you try to scroll its a lag fest
its more like the screen "trembles" , they just don't feel smooth , it feels like the phone it's at its limit, it's just "choppy"
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All of this + youtube hdr playback above 720p. Seriously it should be fixed or bye bye samsung this time.
P.S The ``tremble`` is called stuttering and if you search from google you will found tons of users having exactly the same issue. In my oppinion the exynos processor throttles a lot due to overheating. Cant proove it though cause am no specialist on this matter
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Lets say i visit www.rt.com with the browser , as soon as the comments the advertisments appear , performance is halved and it sucks to browse in such a way.
No lag for me, if there was then I wouldn't have the phone, I am EXTREMELY demanding. But then I dont have **** apps like twitter and facebook that are VERY badly written and drain the battery like theres no tomorrow. I also use nova so cant comment on whether any lag might be touchwiz related, not used touchwiz since my S3.
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No lag for me, if there was then I wouldn't have the phone, I am EXTREMELY demanding. But then I dont have **** apps like twitter and facebook that are VERY badly written and drain the battery like theres no tomorrow. I also use nova so cant comment on whether any lag might be touchwiz related, not used touchwiz since my S3.
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can you properly play 1440p hdr videos from youtube or even 1080p hdr without stutter and frame skip?
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can you properly play 1440p hdr videos from youtube or even 1080p hdr without stutter and frame skip?
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Weird thing-- I'm using one of the YouTube background play-enabled apps.. God I wish I could remember which one, but I got it here. Has some theme options, using one with a back background. I experience absolutely no lag with 1440phdr with this app.. No such luck with the base Youtube app
After cleaning up as many services as possible with Package Disabler, the rest of my interface lag has vanished (even in TouchWiz)
Last couple days have seemed like I have finally found the device the S8 is supposed to be, buried under the inefficient bloat and bogus it ships with.. Of course, I'm on the 835, so this may not have meant anything to begin with haha
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A week ago I got myself a s8 ,I have an iPhone 7 Plus and I’m so sick of having to deal with this size , it feels like a brick, plus I don’t like the “psysical button “ , I wanted to get rid of it so I gave the s8 a try , and so I did and I loved the design , the screen , the camera ( night shots are better than the iPhone 7 in my opinion ) but the performance is just awful , innaceptable for a flagship , choppy scrolling , the framerate skips like crazy sometimes , it just ... lags :/
I couldn’t believe it after reading the rave reviews , so it turns out that the European version has the Exynos cpu instead of the snapdragon 835 and the benchmarks don’t tell the whole story , I tried uninstalling unnecessary apps , deactivating bloat apps , deactivating the side panel , using nova launcher ( without using root or freezing apps or something like that , but it didn’t help , did you guys just get used to the lag ? :/ have you read that the performance on the note 8 is better (the example version of course ) and if it is , so you think it’s because of the extra ram ?
I’m hopeful that Samsung will make the performance better with the Oreo update but that update will probably come in December / January , what are we supposed to do until then ?
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Exynos version really sucks...
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Exynos version really sucks...
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Snapdragon isint much better either. My roommate got a pixel 2 XL and his phone is smoother (with all apps running) than my freshly factory reseted S8.
i just changed my iphone 7 with s8 exynos , i see no different in performance , in fact i loved s8 more , i can't deny that s8 have a little of lags but from my experience ios has lags too , i have 6:30H screen on time in my s8 , i never dreamed about that in my iphone 7 , in iphone I only got 5H screen on time
This is assuming the iPhone 7 suffered no lag or stutters under iOS 11. I came from the iPhone 7 and use to notice stutters while scrolling through contact lists and even the home button had delays. I've got Nova Launcher set up on my current S8 and stock rom with tons of apps and never formatted since I've been using it for the past 3months. I won't lie I did come across occasional stutters but I find it way more fluid than the experience I had on iOS. The list scrolling, app animations,etc is really smooth.
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I agree to a certain extent. I used the Xperia XZ1 Compact for a month on Android 8.0. The interface felt faster than the S8 given the same developer options. You can speed up the S8 if you want by lowering the screen resolution (settings>display). But then you wouldn't have the higest (other than S7) screen DPI ever seen on a phone.