This is text from one pc/mobile portal in Croatia.
They never said anything what's not confirmed and checked...
I won't translating whole txt but will translate punchline...
..."Sony expected losts for a 2014 in amount of 470 mil $, now they changed their expectations and said they will end fiscal year with a total lost of 2,15 bil $..."
Why and which division failed?
..."as a mani reason for awful results they blamed Xperia mobile device department.
Now they have changed their strategy and will try to sell more if their higher level products..."
If Z3 is part of that plan I'm not sure they will succeed
After they start to care about customers and maintained their devices like they should we all reacted by buying new devices from Xperia lines...and what we got from them?
Current flagship on 4.4.2, lousy wifi drivers and EDIT camera?!
I really think this is Sonys last chance to shake their heads and think again...
Once they lose their fans it's gonna be impossible to get them back.
I know I feel like EDIT when I give 2000$ in one year for a two devices and can't get even decent software if not flagship for at least one year...
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Japanska korporacija Sony objavila je financijske detalje vezane za proteklo tromjesečje, a u njima se nalazi i revidirano očekivanje ukupnog financijskog rezultata za tekuću godinu. Prema tim podacima, umjesto planiranog gubitka od oko 470 milijuna američkih dolara, sada se očekuje da će fiskalna godina u ožujku 2015. biti zaključena s gubitkom od čak 2,15 milijardi USD.
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Nakon što su već jednom umanjili svoja očekivanja u srpnju, ovi posljednji podaci dodatno zabrinjavaju analitičare. Kao glavni razlog za revidiranje prognoza navodi se slaba prodaja kompanijinih Xperia pametnih telefona. Početkom godine mobilna je divizija Sonyja bila fokusirana na ostvarivanje značajnog rasta prodaje, koji nije ostvaren. Sada je kompanija promijenila i strategiju za tu diviziju, pa će se umjesto rasta do kraja godine morati baviti umanjivanjem rizika i pokušati stabilizirati zaradu od prodaje mobitela. Također, veći će fokus biti stavljen na prodaju uređaja visoke klase
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I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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DrearierJester1 said:
I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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Sorry double post had a net disruption during typing
This maybe the next step they will do it. Sin
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DrearierJester1 said:
I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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This maybe the next step they will do it. Since it is clearly sony lacks software technicalities. Their hardware is top notch I really hope they should implement like apple software updates create a low, mid to premium range that has a uniform update just like ios style. But not loosing the buttery smooth user interface.
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DrearierJester1 said:
I have read this article as well. Why sony couldnt just invest on the software side rather than creating bunch of useless phones??? Poor Sony ...
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I guess they wanted fast money and to overflow the market with devices, they didn't think about software at all.
If they invested in software right at the start, it would have been very slow for them to make profit, since there's no direct profit from software..
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I guess they wanted fast money and to overflow the market with devices, they didn't think about software at all.
If they invested in software right at the start, it would have been very slow for them to make profit, since there's no direct profit from software..
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agree ... but at least people would know that Sony has the best stable software and features, just like iOS (not sure if u guys will agree, lol). Afterall, Sony is still a hardware company ...
DrearierJester1 said:
agree ... but at least people would know that Sony has the best stable software and features, just like iOS (not sure if u guys will agree, lol). Afterall, Sony is still a hardware company ...
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True, but hardware is as important as software. They really need to optimized it. I'm impressed for their walkman, album and movie app after all their updates its really useful and beautiful but if they really want to impressed the consumers they have add more useful features. Improvement on daily and basic function can be improve from beautification of user interface without sacrificing fast and responsive app.
Sony is known for innovative of improved product they should start thinking like that.
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sony has been floping here and there about the place, Z2 Sold alot
honnestly, sony should listen to the more technical customers, over "customers" because alot of these hardware technitions are pointing out almost all xperias not having head basins or pypes or anything to prevent heating, alot are pointint out bad motherboard design, and another thing Xperias aside Z2 have great firmware but everything that doesnt have 4.4.4 right now, is on a very slugish firmware, every single device, 4.1.2 and up
I can't agree to that statement that they don't have good software department...
They have great engineers, you'll see once when Z3 will be released.
And that's something that fans won't approve.
They added new camera features and it's obvious they could do that on Z2.
They added awesome feature called ultimate stamina, where your device kills all background proces, wif,mobile data and gps and leave your device with just basic functions - that way you can use your device for a 7-8 days without charging...
They add awesome new sound processing and many new features...
I know they can't add everything in one device and they have to leave at least one ace in their sleeve but this approach isn't good...
To update your device every six months just to get something two years old device could deal with it nonsense...not only nonsense...it's rude...
I could accept that approach if we are talking in low or even mid range of devices but guys...we are talking about device we paid 1000$!!!
Sony isn't doing very smart thing and that will cost them more then 2.xx bil $.
When I joined Xperia family I stayed here for a long time but when we realized it's enough and we, real fans, who are buying every piece of s**t they are selling, leave this sinking ship...they'll be in bigger problems.
Because once you realized HTC or Oneplus or anyone else is offering more for your money and more fair for your money you won't ever get back...
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Having those Z3 features doesnt make Sony engineers great. I would call them great if they can optimize the software to match the customers expectations and not a buggy fw.
Obviously they have to think new features to make sure Z3 has the edge apart from other Z series. Its just they limit them selves and bake a mediocre fw.
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I sent this to a range of sony emails
And im hoping they realise great Sw isnt great without good optimization or FW, Most cases as well HW.
Xperias arent bad, but there are these things that always puts customers off an Xperia
Although im going to continue buying xperias simply because of their great security and toughness i will constantly persist in trying to get my point across..
Revolution redux may be needed
DrearierJester1 said:
Having those Z3 features doesnt make Sony engineers great. I would call them great if they can optimize the software to match the customers expectations and not a buggy fw.
Obviously they have to think new features to make sure Z3 has the edge apart from other Z series. Its just they limit them selves and bake a mediocre fw.
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Customers expectations?
That would actually be a miracle...to please everyone and to satisfy every user.
I can't agree to that part - buggy fw...
Yeah , there are some things to polish but perfect smartphone doesn't exist.
Don't know, I'm quite satisfied with Z2, I'm satisfied with Z1, that's why I kept it...
We could have better camera auto mod, yes but we have manual mod and if you know what are you doing you can get incredible results (check camera and similar threads)
Improvement is always welcomed and oftenly possible... And I'm sure Z2 will get better fw and nice updates...
We have six months old devices, take it easy...it'll be OK..
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Customers expectations?
That would actually be a miracle...to please everyone and to satisfy every user.
I can't agree to that part - buggy fw...
Yeah , there are some things to polish but perfect smartphone doesn't exist.
Don't know, I'm quite satisfied with Z2, I'm satisfied with Z1, that's why I kept it...
We could have better camera auto mod, yes but we have manual mod and if you know what are you doing you can get incredible results (check camera and similar threads)
Improvement is always welcomed and oftenly possible... And I'm sure Z2 will get better fw and nice updates...
We have six months old devices, take it easy...it'll be OK..
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"every user", alot of user yes
Buggy fw, depends on how you use, it becomes unstable and messes up alot if you start modding or messing with it
Improvement is needed in some areas camera SW/FW may be needed comparing to other brands,
I am in agreement here
But this is my opinion/experiance
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"every user", alot of user yes
Buggy fw, depends on how you use, it becomes unstable and messes up alot if you start modding or messing with it
Improvement is needed in some areas camera SW/FW may be needed comparing to other brands,
I am in agreement here
But this is my opinion/experiance
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That's why I'm using eXistenZ v2 (soon, we'll have v3 with Ultimate Stamina) and it'll be even better.
It's not ROM marketing but I found v2 battery friendly and very, very good ROM with all features and apps I need daily.
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That's why I'm using eXistenZ v2 (soon, we'll have v3 with Ultimate Stamina) and it'll be even better.
It's not ROM marketing but I found v2 battery friendly and very, very good ROM with all features and apps I need daily.
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Sounds good, ive stuck my self to a modifed stock rom simple because the mods i have realy force battery over performance and heating
Im tempted to go to cm11 and theme it like an xperia rom just because im tired of this slight slowness in response on the stock rom
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Sounds good, ive stuck my self to a modifed stock rom simple because the mods i have realy force battery over performance and heating
Im tempted to go to cm11 and theme it like an xperia rom just because im tired of this slight slowness in response on the stock rom
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Yeah...I hate that too...
Every friend of mine who took this device to see it, after he heard specifications couldn't believe his eyes when he saw hiccups on scrolling.
It's better on eXistenZ, still not perfect but it's better.
I'm on LB and don't want anything except stock based ROM.
Actually, I can't unlock bootloader but I bought this device on purpose, because I knew I don't want to use custom kernels...
Battery life isn't good on CM (at least for me) and I'm on stock/stoxk based ROMs since Xperia S and PAC ROM
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Yeah...I hate that too...
Every friend of mine who took this device to see it, after he heard specifications couldn't believe his eyes when he saw hiccups on scrolling.
It's better on eXistenZ, still not perfect but it's better.
I'm on LB and don't want anything except stock based ROM.
Actually, I can't unlock bootloader but I bought this device on purpose, because I knew I don't want to use custom kernels...
Battery life isn't good on CM (at least for me) and I'm on stock/stoxk based ROMs since Xperia S and PAC ROM
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It weirldy depends on device power, for some odd reason Xperia S causes gapps to drain battery but on Z2 it has alot less of that,
cm11 on Z2 is perfectly fine, its about same life on stock then on Cm11
Im concidering Stopping development On my rom for Z2 untill 4.4.4 comes, i cant add any huge mods without them just not working, ive only been able to add small patches to the framework and boot class
Xperia S was a wonderful device, the only problem being the Linux Base was outdated and had a issue, once i patched that the device flew like a rocket, i added the patch to Envi-Rom V3 and upcoming V5
Envious_Data said:
It weirldy depends on device power, for some odd reason Xperia S causes gapps to drain battery but on Z2 it has alot less of that,
cm11 on Z2 is perfectly fine, its about same life on stock then on Cm11
Im concidering Stopping development On my rom for Z2 untill 4.4.4 comes, i cant add any huge mods without them just not working, ive only been able to add small patches to the framework and boot class
Xperia S was a wonderful device, the only problem being the Linux Base was outdated and had a issue, once i patched that the device flew like a rocket, i added the patch to Envi-Rom V3 and upcoming V5
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Hmm..That's nice then.. ?
I sold my XS to one friend of mine.
He is still using it and he's perfectly satisfied with it.
It's way to slow and old for me, z2 is perfect device for me now but we just have to admit Sony should build that device, or at least, some of the lines of it, better...
Quality control failed totally this time and that shouldn't happen to company like Sony (mobile)...
If they learn from z2 case/experiance - that'll be enough for me.
I'm planning to buy z4 and I really hope differences between 10th and 15th week won't be same as can see on Z2...
See ya guys...
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Hmm..That's nice then.. ?
I sold my XS to one friend of mine.
He is still using it and he's perfectly satisfied with it.
It's way to slow and old for me, z2 is perfect device for me now but we just have to admit Sony should build that device, or at least, some of the lines of it, better...
Quality control failed totally this time and that shouldn't happen to company like Sony (mobile)...
If they learn from z2 case/experiance - that'll be enough for me.
I'm planning to buy z4 and I really hope differences between 10th and 15th week won't be same as can see on Z2...
See ya guys...
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Sounds good, i plan to buy a New Xperia 18 months from now
Z6 i think if i did the math right, if there is another Z Ultra, id take that in a heartbeat
Z Ultra was wonderful to use, it fit my gorilla hands perfectly
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Hmmmmm has anyone loaded and tested ICS for UK three network ? i believe it was released today at 0600am and is available to download from samfirmware, however im unable to log in ?servers full .............
I would be gobsmacked if its the same as the first lpq release (buggy), which I am still using and has given me poor poor poor battery life 1.6 days of light use..... and yes i did a full wipe , ive never used titanium i always start as a completely new setup, rooted and removed bloat.
its crazy how all us peeps on here spend so much time researching upgrading flashing rooting customizing tweaking reinstalling deleting and for what .... because lets face it the bottom line is the galaxy s2 will never have great battery life because 1. its screen size and 2. its battery
All I want from samsung is a minimalistic stable rom with great battery life
I actually cant believe all the blurry videos i've took of my daughter growing up with the galaxy s2 and then ICS comes along and for the most part fixes it ..... its crazy how on earth was the phone first released with such poo video recording well at least its better now
OMG are you sure that is lpq?
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OMG are you sure that is lpq?
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Sad but true...
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Hmmmmm has anyone loaded and tested ICS for UK three network ? i believe it was released today at 0600am and is available to download from samfirmware, however im unable to log in ?servers full .............
I would be gobsmacked if its the same as the first lpq release (buggy), which I am still using and has given me poor poor poor battery life 1.6 days of light use..... and yes i did a full wipe , ive never used titanium i always start as a completely new setup, rooted and removed bloat.
its crazy how all us peeps on here spend so much time researching upgrading flashing rooting customizing tweaking reinstalling deleting and for what .... because lets face it the bottom line is the galaxy s2 will never have great battery life because 1. its screen size and 2. its battery
All I want from samsung is a minimalistic stable rom with great battery life
I actually cant believe all the blurry videos i've took of my daughter growing up with the galaxy s2 and then ICS comes along and for the most part fixes it ..... its crazy how on earth was the phone first released with such poo video recording well at least its better now
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I'm using 3uk ics now.downloaded from check fuz and installed via mobile odin . Running smooth . It is lpq, but I was on polish lpq before and didn't have ANY of the issues you mentioned, I was also getting 3 days battery out of it... Think you should check your setup.
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Wait, 1.6 days is considered poor battery life now?
Some people need to wind their neck in and realise advancements in battery tech is slow due to engineers and innovators struggling with the laws of physics, so until we get mini fusion reactors in our smartphones we will have to consider 20-24 hours of normal use before it needs juice the norm. They don't have the luxury of the Ipads size (which is just basically a massive smartphone.) to whack in a massive battery.
Either that or just buy a Nokia 6310.....
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Wait, 1.6 days is considered poor battery life now?
Some people need to wind their neck in and realise advancements in battery tech is slow due to engineers and innovators struggling with the laws of physics, so until we get mini fusion reactors in our smartphones we will have to consider 20-24 hours of normal use before it needs juice the norm. They don't have the luxury of the Ipads size (which is just basically a massive smartphone.) to whack in a massive battery.
Either that or just buy a Nokia 6310.....
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+1 sgs2 is a smartphone ie computer, how long does a laptop battery last ? Point made
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kitch9 said:
Wait, 1.6 days is considered poor battery life now?
Some people need to wind their neck in and realise advancements in battery tech is slow due to engineers and innovators struggling with the laws of physics, so until we get mini fusion reactors in our smartphones we will have to consider 20-24 hours of normal use before it needs juice the norm. They don't have the luxury of the Ipads size (which is just basically a massive smartphone.) to whack in a massive battery.
Either that or just buy a Nokia 6310.....
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LPQ has poor battery life compared to uk generic 2.3.4 ki4 official rom which gave me around 3 days light use with the exact same setup.
I know car batterys are different from phone batterys but the advanced technology is there for both ! it is just slowly trickled out in harmoney with other consumer giants to keep the economy and there bank balance happy. i.e the commercial technology groups said hdtv would be the highest resolution physically possible on a screen yet they have produced 4k tvs ! they have had the affordable technolgy released in the ipad 3 when they released the first ipad ....its all clever marketing slowly trickled out
here is a link to read about car batterys that will run the car without the need of fuel that last longer than the life of the car and that have been patented by the big oil corporations like texaco TO NOT BE COMMERCIALLY RELEASED
http://www.ev1.org/chevron.htm
I checked in software updates and it,is telling me there is an update just wondered it it will work or will I have to do it via kies
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I got it running fine after a few issues with not being able to unzip it at first
It's noticeably smoother in general and some live wallpapers run with a better frame rate
Face unlocking works fine too
But God the 3 UK version is full of Bloatware so I may go back to my unbranded GB until they release a 4.0.3 version
I think Samsung are being lazy since this is XX but should be XW for the UK, anyway its a bag of sh1t and should never have been released on Kies, I guess the masses put them under pressure to release "something" and "something" we got.
What date build uk rom?
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What date build uk rom?
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Some time this week but don't hold your breath it'll be on time.
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Some time this week but don't hold your breath it'll be on time.
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I think Eric means the build date of this 3 build
Can someone who's using it type *#1234# and let us know the build date
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I think Eric means the build date of this 3 build
Can someone who's using it type *#1234# and let us know the build date
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9th March as per the thread at the top of this section.
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9th March as per the thread at the top of this section.
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It's the same as the open LPQ one, and i guess it should have duplicate sms bug.
i extracted & deodexed it and it's exactly the same as other LPQ builds.
Ok so i'll wait for ita/fra/uk/de NO BRAND ics rom
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I will stay on dxlp7.
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all done n rooted
done update today on my three s2
all running ok
rooted ok and cwm all works ok
had top unmount n mount sd card to get music albums n copilot to work
live screens run great
dunno bout battery life as ive been hammering all my apps on it today to check them all out.
ill check out battery life tomorrow if i can stop playing around with it
A bad workman always blames his tools.
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done update today on my three s2
all running ok
rooted ok and cwm all works ok
had top unmount n mount sd card to get music albums n copilot to work
live screens run great
dunno bout battery life as ive been hammering all my apps on it today to check them all out.
ill check out battery life tomorrow if i can stop playing around with it
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So also have the sd card problem....wow
I wanna know the monkeys that work at samsung.
In PTCRB is since yesterday a new FW certified. Again...
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=24328
Question is: would it be released?
I don't think so. It's only certified. NOT YET RELEASED...
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I don't think so. It's only certified. NOT YET RELEASED...
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And that's the reason i ask: would it be released....
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And that's the reason i ask: would it be released....
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Only Sony knows (as always)
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And that's the reason i ask: would it be released....
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I guess no. This might be a test build for the path towards stable Kitkat.
Certified doesnt always mean that it would be rolled.
I guess sony will go straight to 4.4KK...
It could be like last update: 14.2.A.1.114 (certified) ==> 14.2.A.1.124 (certified) ==> 14.2.A.1.136 certified and released.
So again: wait and drink a cup of tea
After releasing New Flagship Device they might release kitkat for Z range
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I guess no. This might be a test build for the path towards stable Kitkat.
Certified doesnt always mean that it would be rolled.
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Therefore, that it's only a minor number forward from the last fw (136), it won't be anything near kitkat!
Maybe a minor Bugfix or extended update from 136 but nothing major!
Wait until the buildnumber changes to 14.3.X. to guess when kitkat will arrive, just a hint
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Kitkat won't be out before Barcelona - that's 100% and this could go out, maybe it's just some regional patch.
But it's nothing big - that's obvious from build number.
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I hope it fix XLOUD, my alarm is Damm too low, I'm hard to wake up!
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fixing voice and camera grain in low light in latest 136
I'm actually really impressed by the rate of updates for the Z1 so far. Granted this might not be released, but it looks like Sony has finally learned to be decently constant with updates.
i thought some Danish Carrier leaked out that 4.4 KitKat was coming to the Z1 in March
cant find the site at the mo but will look again later
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i thought some Danish Carrier leaked out that 4.4 KitKat was coming to the Z1 in March
cant find the site at the mo but will look again later
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It was a polish carrier presenting the list when the Z will be updated, not the Z1!
The Z1 will most probably be updated first though
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I'm actually really impressed by the rate of updates for the Z1 so far. Granted this might not be released, but it looks like Sony has finally learned to be decently constant with updates.
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Yeah...They are working like crazy and fixing updates very quickly...
They are finally listening what we are talking...
And now with premium and elegant device like Z1 (and Z2 in the future) and great software - Sony will be the best choice (for me it always was)
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Yeah...They are working like crazy and fixing updates very quickly...
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Because the Z1 come out full of bugs!
Anyway I hope finally we get Apps on SD.
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Because the Z1 come out full of bugs!
Anyway I hope finally we get Apps on SD.
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That are mainly hardware issues and I really doubt it could be ever fixed...
Maybe they will succeed to make it better - like touchscreen sensitivity and yellow tint...
But that's not software - I'm 100% sure, why?
Because I'm using 290 firmware and it's working fantastic.
Without any touchscreen problems, with real white and black colors on screen and with great battery life...
Every single firmware I tried worked perfectly...534, 290 or 136 - without a single glitch.
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That are mainly hardware issues and I really doubt it could be ever fixed...
Maybe they will succeed to make it better - like touchscreen sensitivity and yellow tint...
But that's not software - I'm 100% sure, why?
Because I'm using 290 firmware and it's working fantastic.
Without any touchscreen problems, with real white and black colors on screen and with great battery life...
Every single firmware I tried worked perfectly...534, 290 or 136 - without a single glitch.
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Actually the Yellow tint is a known software, not hardware problem . The touchscreen problem is iffy, some say hardware while some say software. I actually would say the Z1 is almost flawless hardware wise, the problems start on the software side (yellow tint, camera, bluetooth, etc.)
It's good because that means Sony can fix most of the problems on the Z1. They already fixed yellow tint and bluetooth, now the touchscreen and camera optimization should happen soon.
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Actually the Yellow tint is a known software, not hardware problem . The touchscreen problem is iffy, some say hardware while some say software. I actually would say the Z1 is almost flawless hardware wise, the problems start on the software side (yellow tint, camera, bluetooth, etc.)
It's good because that means Sony can fix most of the problems on the Z1. They already fixed yellow tint and bluetooth, now the touchscreen and camera optimization should happen soon.
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I would say it's mix, it's a software, O.K but only on some devices which are using different screens and other parts (bluetooth chip and other parts).
It's impossible that you have problems and I don't have if we all have exactly the same hardware...
So the conclusion would be - we are both half right
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Since every country has different issues and different update timing i suggest start this thread only for Netherlands users of Xperia Z2.. please share your experience with the Z2 here..
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My experience with the device so far is good, i like it. Got it (black version) from Vodafone with contract.
I'm using it for about 3 weeks now and in my clumsiness already dropped it twice (I know ....), but no damage whatsoever. :victory:
It does look as though the frontglass lays/is glued a tiny little bit crooked in the frame, but it's not noticeable, only if you look veeery carefully.
Second thing i noticed, which is buggin' me a little bit, is the volume down button isn't as clicky as the volume up button.
Last thing, i have had the "sd card unexpectedly removed'' (sandisk 64 GB) error quite alot lately. Yesterday i have replaced it with the one i had in my Xperia tablet Z and so far so good.
So i guess it was the card itself giving problems and not the phone.
As seen in my signature i'm rocking RomAur with Doomkernel in combination with gravitybox and it works great.
I still mis my Nexus 5 though as it's stil the finest phone i ever owned / used, but i'm turning into a phonefreak so next stop will, i think, be the Oneplus One :laugh:
EDIT: Oh yeah... i forgot. There was no dock in the box, only the noise canceling earbuds. That was very disappointing !!
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My experience with the device so far is good, i like it. Got it (black version) from Vodafone with contract.
I'm using it for about 3 weeks now and in my clumsiness already dropped it twice (I know ....), but no damage whatsoever. :victory:
It does look as though the frontglass lays/is glued a tiny little bit crooked in the frame, but it's not noticeable, only if you look veeery carefully.
Second thing i noticed, which is buggin' me a little bit, is the volume down button isn't as clicky as the volume up button.
Last thing, i have had the "sd card unexpectedly removed'' (sandisk 64 GB) error quite alot lately. Yesterday i have replaced it with the one i had in my Xperia tablet Z and so far so good.
So i guess it was the card itself giving problems and not the phone.
As seen in my signature i'm rocking RomAur with Doomkernel in combination with gravitybox and it works great.
I still mis my Nexus 5 though as it's stil the finest phone i ever owned / used, but i'm turning into a phonefreak so next stop will, i think, be the Oneplus One :laugh:
EDIT: Oh yeah... i forgot. There was no dock in the box, only the noise canceling earbuds. That was very disappointing !!
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Nice Experience , mine i got it with KPN with 3Gb for 45 euro, but without minutes which sometimes i regret it . but anyone the phone is great and the battery amazing but one thing is bothering me that the screen edge from the right side has a gap , its small you can't notice unless u look closely but its there and i test it with water and no problem.. its great phone with 4G Lte internet..
Enjoying my Z2 since 7 may on Hi 3 Gb 4G (doubled to 6 Gb by KPN Compleet)
Waiting one week allready for .402 to arrive in the Netherlands....
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Enjoying my Z2 since 7 may on Hi 3 Gb 4G (doubled to 6 Gb by KPN Compleet)
Waiting one week allready for .402 to arrive in the Netherlands....
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The update was already there for me, but only through PC Companion. Might want to try that, or have you already ?
working fine!
It's working great! I got it at coolblue with a T-mobile 2gb contract for 31 Euros per month and the Z2 was €12 (Yes i know!!) the only minus for me is the storage, ive got a 64gb sd card, but i cant put apps on it....
I want to root it and flash a custom rom, what for rom (and kernel) do you advise?
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The update was already there for me, but only through PC Companion. Might want to try that, or have you already ?
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still no update on both Update Centre and PC Companion,the waiting continues...
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It's working great! I got it at coolblue with a T-mobile 2gb contract for 31 Euros per month and the Z2 was €12 (Yes i know!!) the only minus for me is the storage, ive got a 64gb sd card, but i cant put apps on it....
I want to root it and flash a custom rom, what for rom (and kernel) do you advise?
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It depends on your firmware. For now my choice goes to RomAur, which is based on .402.
But i'm anxiousy waiting for a stable and bugfree release of Carbon ROM (or maybe in the future SlimKat) :laugh:
thanks!
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It depends on your firmware. For now my choice goes to RomAur, which is based on .402.
But i'm anxiousy waiting for a stable and bugfree release of Carbon ROM (or maybe in the future SlimKat) :laugh:
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Thanks! But what do you mean with .402?
Myrrhman said:
My experience with the device so far is good, i like it. Got it (black version) from Vodafone with contract.
I'm using it for about 3 weeks now and in my clumsiness already dropped it twice (I know ....), but no damage whatsoever. :victory:
It does look as though the frontglass lays/is glued a tiny little bit crooked in the frame, but it's not noticeable, only if you look veeery carefully.
Second thing i noticed, which is buggin' me a little bit, is the volume down button isn't as clicky as the volume up button.
Last thing, i have had the "sd card unexpectedly removed'' (sandisk 64 GB) error quite alot lately. Yesterday i have replaced it with the one i had in my Xperia tablet Z and so far so good.
So i guess it was the card itself giving problems and not the phone.
As seen in my signature i'm rocking RomAur with Doomkernel in combination with gravitybox and it works great.
I still mis my Nexus 5 though as it's stil the finest phone i ever owned / used, but i'm turning into a phonefreak so next stop will, i think, be the Oneplus One :laugh:
EDIT: Oh yeah... i forgot. There was no dock in the box, only the noise canceling earbuds. That was very disappointing !!
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I agree with u on nexus as I own both z2 and nexus 5.I love both the phones but the performance nexus 5 gives me on ART is unreal.
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Thanks! But what do you mean with .402?
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.402 is short for 17.1.1.A.0.402,the latest Sony update for Z2
paras said:
I agree with u on nexus as I own both z2 and nexus 5.I love both the phones but the performance nexus 5 gives me on ART is unreal.
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Well, to be honest, i've never tried ART yet. But the N5 was still flying on Dalvik.
Had (stil have) SlimKat ROM on it with useally Franco kernel or Slim's own kernel.
Weird though that the Z2 doesn't support ART, weird choice Sony made there.
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.402 is short for 17.1.1.A.0.402,the latest Sony update for Z2
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Thank you again! I only used a nexus (nexus 7 2 rooted ) and a xperia arc s before (soft-bricked twice) so im new to Sony's rooting/unlocking/flashing process.
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anyone received an update?
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anyone received an update?
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Still nothing,on both PC Companion and Update Center .
Maybe KPN needs more time for approval ?
I have an unbranded version, bought at the phonehouse, and still no update. Did they pull off the update because of issues?
I got mine at belcompany (Vodafone) one week ago and it seems i have the 402 update.
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Yep, same here. Already have the update some time ago, but only through PC Companion (for me atleast).
Had to download it with the Companion and convert it to a FTF file with flashtool, because of unlocked bootloader.
Anyways, you guys are not the only ones ---> http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...A-0-402-start-rolling-out/td-p/690917/page/15
[edit] Ok, it seems these people (from the link) are getting the update now
I didn't used a pc, just my z2
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Stil nothing guys ??
If not, it's getting ridiculous. Shame on your providers !
There's allready talk of a new update for the Z2 ----> 17.1.1.A.0.438 Certified for Z2
Well today I installed the slyle potrait app which Sony finaly released, in two minutes I got the the notorious message saying that the camera will close if it keeps getting warm and after one more minute it closed. Could it be that the one to blame for the overheating is the camera software itself because I've never seen the message before and I've done some serious usage of the camera. I'll leave a link to the playstore so you can test it on your own!!! Any other thoughts would be much appreciated.
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.android.addoncamera.styleportrait
I was thinking install that app today... After your experience I won't install it. At least not for now.
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Its not only this app problem. Open camera and go to Effects, play with it for few sec and you gonna get message that phone is to hot...
Its actually hilarious that most of companies had time to create window with info about to "hot phone", instead of spending this few minutes thinking: "wait... we just created phone and app that get really hot making it no usable at all... maybe we should fix that? hmmm?"
I would not be mad if companies would spend this 2-3 months getting their balls together and make optimized phone and apps, instead of covering their failure behind window like "phone need to cool down... closing app"
Sad part is that its not only Sony problem, most of phones have this... No one give a flying crap to think about it and fix it...
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I was thinking install that app today... After your experience I won't install it. At least not for now.
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I didn't say that the app is not good actually the effects are amazing but it is so frustrating that after 3 minutes the app closes
It never occurred to you that these apps are heavily using CPU and/or GPU?
Also, I did a heatsink mod (copper plating) inside my phone - kind of helps with heat still yet to post the photo guide though, will do it soon!
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CosmicDan said:
It never occurred to you that these apps are heavily using CPU and/or GPU?
Also, I did a heatsink mod (copper plating) inside my phone - kind of helps with heat still yet to post the photo guide though, will do it soon!
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i use creative effects all the time and i never had any problem with the camera closing because of heat (you cant be serious that style potrait uses that much the cpu)
My back panel is unglued because of heat(i would like to say that it's joke but nope) so im gonna change it next month so I would like to se how you made that heatsink mod.
I did a lot of such mods in netbooks and laptops, but phone don't have much room for such mods, so I'm really curious about that...
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My back panel is unglued because of heat(i would like to say that it's joke but nope) so im gonna change it next month so I would like to se how you made that heatsink mod.
I did a lot of such mods in netbooks and laptops, but phone don't have much room for such mods, so I'm really curious about that...
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I will share when I find the time to write it my back cover never came loose but I definitely noticed heat fatigue on both the SoC and... Another chip, can't remember what it was - maybe the radio (it was a semi-large chip, second biggest after the SoC). Photos are on my other phone and its flat at the moment, I'll find out when I actually do the guide and look at mainboard diagrams again
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i use creative effects all the time and i never had any problem with the camera closing because of heat (you cant be serious that style potrait uses that much the cpu)
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Why can't I be serious? Fact is that the SoC is one die containing CPU, GPU and RAM. In normal circumstances these are the highest consumers of power and generators of heat. An exception is if you've got heavy traffic on radio though, and I mean max bandwidth on a LTE or 802.11ac connection, for an extended period of time; I doubt it was that in this case. Or maybe it was...?
Also as a developer I know that software can have bugs that cause unnecessary CPU or GPU usage. You're just speculating here without hard evidence... If you can monitor CPU/GPU clock speeds and/or temperatures while this happens and show us that it's not high, then I will stand corrected.
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Why can't I be serious? Fact is that the SoC is one die containing CPU, GPU and RAM. In normal circumstances these are the highest consumers of power and generators of heat. An exception is if you've got heavy traffic on radio though, and I mean max bandwidth on a LTE or 802.11ac connection, for an extended period of time; I doubt it was that in this case. Or maybe it was...?
Also as a developer I know that software can have bugs that cause unnecessary CPU or GPU usage. You're just speculating here without hard evidence... If you can monitor CPU/GPU clock speeds and/or temperatures while this happens and show us that it's not high, then I will stand corrected.
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well i tested it and it seems you were right but still i cant get it, why when both apps (creative effects and style potrait) use around 80% of the CPU, creative effects takes around 14-15 minutes to close and the style potrait just 2 minutes??
Maybe it's a bug. Is this a brand new app? I don't run stock sorry, not up to speed on the Sony specific stuff.
It could also be a simple case of neglect for our ol' Z.
Either way, cross your fingers and hope it gets solved in an update. It certainly sounds like it shouldn't be working so intensively.
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Maybe it's a bug. Is this a brand new app? I don't run stock sorry, not up to speed on the Sony specific stuff.
It could also be a simple case of neglect for our ol' Z.
Either way, cross your fingers and hope it gets solved in an update. It certainly sounds like it shouldn't be working so intensively.
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no its not new and its not a case of neglect because i had flashed the app to my phone quite some time ago
But your OP says you installed some app which Sony just released?
I meant neglect from Sony; ever since KitKat our devices have had issues. But, on that note, how does (whatever old app you're talking about) working fine in the past but worse now = not a case of neglect? If the app is an identical version and your firmware is also identical version to when it was working well, but now its not working well, then it could very well be a case of wear and tear. I don't really understand, I'm just going through the process of elimination.
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But your OP says you installed some app which Sony just released?
I meant neglect from Sony; ever since KitKat our devices have had issues. But, on that note, how does (whatever old app you're talking about) working fine in the past but worse now = not a case of neglect? If the app is an identical version and your firmware is also identical version to when it was working well, but now its not working well, then it could very well be a case of wear and tear. I don't really understand, I'm just going through the process of elimination.
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i flashed the app from a mod, the app wasnt meant to be installed at sony xperia z but now sony published the app at Play Store for all xperia (i think some old ones are not combatible). The app had the same issues before but i didnt want to post a thread before since it wasnt officialy combatible with my phone
Has anybody else found this. For example, unlocking the phone. Or turning the alarm off. Or pulling down the notification shade. Very laggy - 5 to 10 seconds to respond sometimes. My z3y was MUCH more responsive.
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Has anybody else found this.
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Nope.
Try a clean wipe
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Try clearing data/cache of the launcher app from settings - apps - all. Also avoid live wallpapers if you got any.
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Try clearing data/cache of the launcher app from settings - apps - all. Also avoid live wallpapers if you got any.
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Thank you for your suggestions. I use Nova launcher. And no live wallpapers - I find them an unnecessary use of resources.
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Well, then you could try the stock launcher. If the lag is gone, then it's definitely caused by Nova in the first place. I've seen this before on other phones.
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Well, then you could try the stock launcher. If the lag is gone, then it's definitely caused by Nova in the first place. I've seen this before on other phones.
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Dunno, for me, Nova seemed to actually speed things up. Being fast is one of its selling points, after all.
I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed with the Z3+. I previously owned a z2, z3 and z3 tablet compact and all of those were far more responsive and less laggy than the z3+. Hell even my Moto X 2014 puts the z3+ to shame. I love Sony products but have been massively put off them after the shoddy Z3+, this is not even mentioning the fact that most other xperia phones, including the z1, have the 5.1 update yet there's no sign of it for the z3+. A bit of a rant but its a poor show by Sony.
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I have to say that I'm extremely disappointed with the Z3+. I previously owned a z2, z3 and z3 tablet compact and all of those were far more responsive and less laggy than the z3+. Hell even my Moto X 2014 puts the z3+ to shame. I love Sony products but have been massively put off them after the shoddy Z3+, this is not even mentioning the fact that most other xperia phones, including the z1, have the 5.1 update yet there's no sign of it for the z3+. A bit of a rant but its a poor show by Sony.
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I agree. It's a real shame. I'm gonna try a full reset tonight and see if that helps any. I don't have much installed on the phone. To be honest, it was much more responsive when I first got it, so I'm hoping this helps. I'll keep you posted.
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I found my Z3+ to be unacceptably laggy as well. I moved to the One Plus Two phone last week and could not be happier. I may try the Z5 when it's released as I prefer the smaller 5.2" screen size versus the OP2 5.5" screen.
I had previously been using the Z2 with CM 12.1 nightlies but could not deal with the poor phone calling quality.
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I found my Z3+ to be unacceptably laggy as well. I moved to the One Plus Two phone last week and could not be happier. I may try the Z5 when it's released as I prefer the smaller 5.2" screen size versus the OP2 5.5" screen.
I had previously been using the Z2 with CM 12.1 nightlies but could not deal with the poor phone calling quality.
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Does it overheat?
The lagging even happens when the phone is stone cold.
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Does it overheat?
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Does what overheat; the Z3+? Not at all since the latest firmware was released; .251.
The Z3+ does lag for me while scrolling left/right or up/down even when the Phone is NOT hot. There can be no denial of this fact. My Opinion.
Note: All this is even after I did a full clean wipe, de-bloated my phone heavily, and disabled ALL google services save for a few mandatory ones.
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Does what overheat; the Z3+? Not at all since the latest firmware was released; .251.
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No i meant The "Oneplus 2"
Do you have 28.0.A.8.251 firmware on your Z3+? I am asking because on this firmware I am not having lag anymore (a little bit after playing games but it is OK).
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No i meant The "Oneplus 2"
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No, not at all.
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Do you have 28.0.A.8.251 firmware on your Z3+? I am asking because on this firmware I am not having lag anymore (a little bit after playing games but it is OK).
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Dunno, for me, Nova seemed to actually speed things up. Being fast is one of its selling points, after all.
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Nova makes the phone way faster. Set scroll and animation speed to faster-than-light.
I've been so busy developing stuff and reflashing my phone that I've not had the chance to use it in daily use. That said, it feels faster than my Galaxy Note 4. using .251 firmware, it kicks the Galaxy's ass on an Antutu Benchmark, and that's even with what we know about Samsung cooking benchmarks on their devices. It got 53.5K to the Note 4's 48.3K
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Nova makes the phone way faster. Set scroll and animation speed to faster-than-light.
I've been so busy developing stuff and reflashing my phone that I've not had the chance to use it in daily use. That said, it feels faster than my Galaxy Note 4. using .251 firmware, it kicks the Galaxy's ass on an Antutu Benchmark, and that's even with what we know about Samsung cooking benchmarks on their devices. It got 53.5K to the Note 4's 48.3K
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53.5 vs 48.3 doesn't seem like that big a jump considering the z3+ is 64 bit.
The annoying thing for me is lag when unlocking , or using WhatsApp, or the camera. Just takes ages (5-10 seconds) to respond.
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53.5 vs 48.3 doesn't seem like that big a jump considering the z3+ is 64 bit.
The annoying thing for me is lag when unlocking , or using WhatsApp, or the camera. Just takes ages (5-10 seconds) to respond.
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Mine does lag when unlocking, too, but not that much...